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Using the SIXER MENTALITY is A BREEDERS TOOL!; But where will we go when that Newby, hits a Nick from ONE BREEDER's STOCK, and then, theres a better chance that with the same Breeders, stock down the road, where theres an alighnment, that is NOT the samre after just ONe to 3 Generations of Best to Best, and forget ALL the REST; as we fall into the trap, lose our Improvement?; "WHERE will I go from Here?"
Preferably to any mate that has some Alignment to the neuclus family; or from a Quad relationship that started with the use of the preferred Layers of Genome, from deeps only MOM nature preserves; where we can PULL, out specific Layers by Point blending first the PIECES( which must be perceived, and identified) OR we can LINE BREED and SELECT the Best; whist, we still are defunct / tainted in several Complete POINTS, of EACH GR, where Balance is the comparison' of the greatest Balance in GR's;
Where shall we go as breeders to continue improvements, of ALL that creates the Over=all balance And, can we yet, identify, that the Pieces / the genepoole, is such that it incorporates the WHOLE of the 100 points, save the PHYSICAL BALANCE can make you or break up in the heat of the SHOW PEN; where shall we go from here?
We shall, 'cherry pick/ SHOP..for that useful from the same family LINE; and if that is NOT availlable.. then to OUTCROSS ? And, here we see SIBS setting, half sibs setting, and Line breeding from this OUT CROSS, that which is NOT found in the Neuclus family, and will add to the Qualities, the gen requirements, the Higher POINTERS, and if we think ahaed, and we can SEE the pieces and we get the results,. we have the second installment of the QUAD BREEDING.. We have added, with the OUTCROSS, or semi OUT CROSS, or we have boldly used the Breed oUT CROSS.. and we have utilized the Sixer, mentality.. IN and in, with SELECTION, to SET this point that will add to the Over all POINT requirement THE BALANCE , by which we COMPARE each Color Entry ;
WE , as BRREDERS, are NOT ALL REFINERS, of those VIKINGS who fear not to use ALL of their BREEDING TOOLS, and Mark a Cutting EDGE , second to NO Individuals, who set upon the laurels of A single Mentaility for SETTING a POINT REQUIREMENT, but always LOOKINg to their taints, their falts( a complete lack of POINT BLEND capability, because we have set a point, we have qualified it.. but the BUGGERS, can't walk, have Plumb coloration, are under-marked, and lack the physaical attributes , which fail to respond, because they have nothing to respond to.. THE PROFILE must be correct, the fore to aft dimension, is UNDERBELLY..
It will be who has the ROUNDNESS, and the top tail, the ceramic feather, the meat, ; those that have the Balance, not just the smallness Faddism; not just the ceramic feather, not just the color, not just the marking; but those who have the Totality, that is a product of genome, and with an under-standing OF that which is the FOUNDATION,, their LEGS.. and the PHYSICAL BALANCE.
We can set the Faddism by INbreeding, but, we ask; what else have we fixed along with it? And we ask, will the Genepoole give us the WHOLE that equates to Balance in Requirements?
Where shall we go from here? WHY NOT LOOK TO BE A SIXER, who is not confined to Faddism; but who looks to each taint, and uses what ever, related, or unrelated to maintain a genpoole which realistically supports the Truths of POINT BLENDING, where SELECTION is Founded upon ALL that is IN those Onion skins, and all that will reinforce those which; SELECTION, can not CREATE./ Make.. If it isn't in there, or we can wait for INbreeding to expose all that is forever in those layers; or we can draw, out, only those that we SELECT as the positives we Select, and thaTHAT THE PRODUCT , IS FORCING A selection BEYOND ANYTHING THAT RELIES UPON tHE DANGERS OF iNBREEDING, FOR WRIGHT HAD TO GET AT LEAST ONE RAT, IN HIS 100 GENERATIONS OF SAME.. ONE THAT WOULD pRODUCE.. now THIS IS tHE MOST POWERFUL OF ALL THE sIXER MENTALITY; but, THEN, WHAT IF WE DON'T GET one?: WHAT IF, IT DON'T BREED.. WHAT IF WE CROSS THE BUGGER TO A mODENA, OR ANOTHER UNRELATED FANTAIL( THO AN ENITY WITH SOME ALIGNMENT. SEMI CROSS, DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE SAME STOCKS, cULLS, A USEFUL cull , ONE MAS TREASER, IS ANOTHER MANS ( FANCIER) GARBAGE?)
WHY DO WE FALL BY THE WAYSIDE? wHERE DO WE GO WITH A sINGLE GREAT BIRD? WE INBREED IT; we line it, we SIB it? and we CROSS it.. and then we PRETZEL IT; AND WE select FROM ALL THIS.. AND WE MOVE OUR NEUCLUS CLOSER TO bALANCE, AND MORE POINTS.. AND WE DO IT AGAIN.
iT IS ALL THE mETHODS, ALL THE MENTALITIES, GUIDED BY A MENTALITY, THAT TAKES CHANCES, FEARS NOTHING( LOOKS TO NO ONE, BUT THE bREEDERS..
TESTING ..IT is LUCK, and numbers makes LUCK; and when that one comes out of An egg on the floor,; when a group is set into a pen and they SELECT a mate.. is this not a point, in a project.. where we can delightfully find that one.. but, will it have the ALL the et tal the WHOLE to create the Balance in the POINTS, each and every Requirement set forth in the Standard, or the individual MINDS EYE? How many ONES do we need to crewate the ET TAL.. for TYPE PERFECTION; or even for color/ marking , as well? Lets just say.. MORE THAN ONE..FAMILY..MORE THAN ONE PAIR,,maybe TWO PAIRS, and if we cannot SEE all that is of a MINDS EYE.. for TYPE PERFECTION, Will we SELECT IT OUT.. with INBREEDING ONE MANS STOCK.. depends if he is a SIXER, or if he is NOT..
Certainly "PRETZEL BREEDING"( JQ 1950 PGNL's)TO get as many of her as possible without CLONING. If I was WRIGHT, I might have bred Sibs from sibs from sibs; I would not look to point blend , so much as I would look to raise ONE a YEAR that reproduced. ; if not the sibs, but then out and out to a Breed Cross..( get with me on this.. read and think positive. we are telling saying anything here except the point.. of what we do to CREATE.. WE are not saying DOn't do this., don't do that; we are saying what HANSON said: Hanson was known to take CHANCES in his Matings; My Son, said :" DAD ( after the FIRE)"YOU WILL MAKE MATINGS THAT YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE THOUGHT."
I am NOT BEATTING UP THE GENEPOOLER, and I am NOT beating up THE SIXER. Starting a FAMILY..FROM a single LOFT is A GREAT START, especially if we start with 3-6 pairs; or if they "AMONG THEM HAVE all that THE BUYER sees in his MINDS EYE,then less numbers is more desirable. ( WE are not going to talk Economics for a JUNIOR here, or a NEWBY that has a WIFE and KIDS)
Strickly from a BREEDING standpoint. :: Here we are with this Grand Champion. or even a Class winner; but staying with the grand Champion..for clearity of POINT.
Ostrander LOOKED at his Champion..Where will he go? from here to make them as good, maintaining this Quality , let alone, move closer to the TRI VIEW. dat 20 series.
I am proposing that with-in a SINGLE INBRED Family, ENITY; we WILL NOTFIND THE POINT BLEND we NEED to either MAINTAIN, LET ALONE.. FURTHER REFINE, either TYPE PERFECTION..NOR COLOR/MARKING.
IT IS THIS FACT,(FANTAILS are also NOT SHOW ROLLERS with Ceramic feather, of same struckture, with BULK) THAT prevents us from staying on top YEAR AFTER YEAR.
WE are culling OUT pieces that we DO nOt recognize, because they are pieces, or we cut them, with a Low ender, that contains these Pieces, that will prevent us from Maintaining our Base Family.
LOOK now to this Ostrander pdr: He did, but as Much as he Knew.. He could not perceive what we can today; NO u say: OK, then He knew about Warners, USEFULS hidden in the DARKEST CORNERS, down under, over yonder; even in an old out HOUSE being OUTCROSSED, OK again, forget I said OUTCROSS..; well, never mind,, I didn't say BREED OUTCROSS! Both of which are Forbidden..tho, thay all did it.. and they were top DOGS in FRILLS, and SHOW ROLLERS,and SHOW RACERS.POUTERS( they crossed POUTER BREEDS,,in Cleveland.. thos PIGMY and ENGLISH POUTER BOYS, after what ever they did..to get the Genepoole, the varaiation that would maintain their BLOWERS for nearly half a centurery. And they SOLD BIRDS for PRICES..unheard of, save the Racers.. from belgium.
IF YOU HAVE a single GREAT FANTAIL, forget coloration in SHOPPING FOR a Proper Mate(mates) FOR MOI.. I was a color BREEDER..I had two KIDS..THEY wanted 300.00 a Pair for Fans that didn't even come from their LOFT! THIS IS NOT TRUE TODAY , and SINCE....BREEDING STOCK IS CERTIFIED BY OUR BREEDERS,that is why the HOBBY is in their Hands? THE JUDGE will get his chance to shine when the Breeders gives him those past the TRANSITION TYPES, because the BREEDER is Maybe using Those with too much height, or that second best Head placement! ( IE THE BREEDER will MOVE away, with a proper POINT blend/ A proper Mate, that may not be of the same family.. and was shopped for.. cherry picked by a SIXER FANCIER and SHOWMAN.
TAKE ANY GOOD BIRD.. and if YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN, or if you want to IMPROVE each YEAR?: THEN LOOK to mate within the Family FIRSTLY; but, be realistic in your SIGHT(TO SEE< to visualize) that Mate, I like MATES.. a cock and two hens, or A Hen on two cocks every other set.. moving box to box.. and yep, I know that a cock can be the sire of her next set, and already mated to the second Male.
IT IS very difficult to shop for what we seek; so WE advocate LOw enders from another LOFT; but honestly, we like to KNOW what we are USING; we test,, and it took three mates from different Enities to get the NICK.. and we PUSH a NICK with inbred Prepotency( SELECTION, with point blending, not of WHOLE GENERAL REQUIREMENT, but just a PIECE HERE, and there, cherry picked, shopped, or saved as Useful, or LOL.. THE PROJECT we called the fatso Family. This is but one example. THE BREED CROSS for COLOR, or marking, has showed us HOW to PERFECT THE TYPE from MINDS EYE; not any STANDARD,, We cannot suppress a single MINDS EYE; but here, we "SEIZED each FAD, as a result of A MINDS EYE.. THE TYPE ONE has been beat up.. WRONG AGAIN!!!! MR QUERISOME..WRONG AGAIN..ARE you reading ME to decide , like you JUDGE THE JUDGING... ???
LOOK to an INDIVIDUAL, build a FAMILY.. THINK pieces; think, what's is this SHIZER in 2006 YOUNG... DO NOT CULL these before a MOLT?; do n test them to your BEST.. Watch how they THRO?; "THEY HAVE THE ANSWERS..and the more you BREED , the better chance you have.. save that ONE that comes from an egg on the floor,,,ETC.
Know where you are in a project; Know what you don't have to point blend.. LIKE BEST to LIKE BEST, hopfully will maintain for a yr to three; but, Hell, if WE CHERRY PICK every YEAR...DO THEY NOT KNOW WHAT THEY DO?
to be continued.. HOW TO REFINE A GREAT FAMILY OF FANTAILS with diverse GENOME.. or from the good work of a SINGLE BREEDER( who is say.. "EQUAL TOO SIX INDIVIDUAL SIXERS....36-40 breeding Pairs a YR?
IF their are TWO TYPES of SHOW FANTAILS?; Which TYPE looks like the PROPOSED IDEAL and orchastraighted BY WHOM? and who may it CONCERN.
IS IT NOT TIME for THE EACH FANCIER to orchastraight their own IDEALISMS? Some have said, that THE FUTURA could NEVER WALK;and we are being THANKFUL, that we looked to the possibility of same;beyond US, there are those today, THAT have CONCERNS, and so THEY JUST keep be-bopping Backwards(in TIME), and Forwards, and back again to hold on to the CARRIAGE ? , Or is it the MOTION?
Here the CONCERN splits inTO TWO.. CARRIAGE is POSING. AND THE . IN MOTION, is WALKING, while holding the COM-POSURE of the POSER.
SO to the original "CONCERN" about what TYPE, IS IDEALISM..WHO IS RIGHT? WHO IS WRONG? THE ANSWER IS WRITTEN IN THE 400 YR HISTORY of the QUEEN.
OUR ANSWER?: RESPECT THE WINNER! RESPECT the EXHIBITOR! RESPECT is bred, just like great fantails; TEACH the YOUNGSTERS and NEWBYS HOW TO BREED; and finally SET aside the PERSONAL AGENDA; but not until YOU are A MASTER BREEDER by DEFINETION ; and, NOT AGENDA.
KNOWING THAT THIS IS A BIG 'IDDED" SELF thing, that propells us beyond LIFES OWN ....!! So much so, for the Personal MINDS EYE,. that WE SEEK nothing Peace in these times...and what we SEE is NOT what we GET, but the DIVERSITY of HETEROTIC BREEDING techniques..will always give another STEP Forward. maintaining what THEY HAVE, plus what we have.. Moving Forward for the ET TAL; but not leaving behind anything, for the sake of MOTION; WHen we can have IT ALL...THE SMALLEST,THE BEST ILLUSION of ROUNDNESS with the Meat & the Feather, that looks LOW SETTING; yet has ,not only the ability to POSE and WALK.. BUT that it does so when properly set into a SHOW PEN.
ATTITUDE in the SHOW BIRDS is what makes them Champions; ATTITUDE of the EXHIBITOR ATTITUDE of the JUDGE should be THAT THE BEST FANTAILS are given the NOD, in both the Color and Marking Classes; AND ultimately in the Finals!
WE need to set THE INTERPRETATIONS OUT to back UP this Latest REVISION; we also need to do some homework on the HISTORY; so THE FANTAIL STANDARD reeks of all those LOST pages of description.
THE BEST TOO ALL,and GREAT BREEDING;
Start with birds from a Single LOFT, maybe Carry this a bit further? THE SHOW ROLLER was developed with the LFCL Tumbler, Modena, and maybe two other FANCY Breed crosses .
We must SEE' all that we want to SEE in the FINISHED Product...IN the starting STOCK, we tend to INBREED blindly, because this Single stock is from a single Family; and inbreeding Coe is very HIGH. This leads to setting the Bad with the GOOD. You will be FIXING all that this SIXER FAMILY pocesses in negatives.
We can open the WINDOW, with USEFULS cherry PICKED from several other LOFTS, if we can SEE those that might ADD to our genpoole, that which is DEFUNCT.
Heterosis..Heterotics. OUTCROSSING, a semi dangerous approach , with proper Supervision( SELECTION) will alow us to Preserve the Original Positives, and add refinements.
The Extreme is BREED CROSSING, when we cannot acquire those Pieces of the GR's that we need, and even if we break the whole of the REQUIREMENT down into the Pieces that will create it; THIS plus this in a Phenotype will correct, create , say bad legs...
YAY, tho THESE are NOT SHOW ROLLERS, where it is a less complicated process of creating a PROFILE that is set in Idealism of personal minds eye. Where we can add a dash of LF CL TUMBLER , for feather bulk, or meat and shape from the Modena/ KING + MOdena of today.
THE FANTAIL is more complicated in her UNDER-Carriage Construction, even beyond the JACOBIN, or FRILL. WE must SEE the pieces that that can BUILD the Under-carriage, the Bodee shape; so that ultimately( ULTIMA by ARENA, )we can look for the Positives, the pieces that are Just a Figment of ones Imagination; and compose a single General Requirement like UNDER-CARRIAGE.
This is for MOTION; but then we want the best I L L U S I O N of ROUNDESS within the PRODUCT of all that is the Meat and the feather. So we want this GR as well; no peak crests.. for sure, foot feathering from the FRILL, NOPE; but then if they have it, and u deem it USEFUL, it cannot hurt YOU; and you can maintain all that the boots carry with it; like cobbiness, not even the modena Outcross alone, can provide.
We must maintain all that is in the Neucleus family of 6-8 prs. But, what do we add to refine. A GOOD BIRD that comes HIGH, may not have the PIECE we need, so then to those LOW enders in the CLASSES, or even THE SO CALLED CULLS.
WE are not looking for THE BEST possible SHOW birds that DO NOT Have what we need to jump Forward; INBREEDING is a "DOUBLE EDGED ENGLISH SWORD. " and very dangerous in the Hands of a BREEDER that bought Birds from a Single LOFT.
The beginners "LUCK" comes of heterosis..WE seize this and we INBREED, maybe we look, not to INBREEDING; but we look to each Individual, now we can SEE what they are, and what they came from.. and we don't just INBREED them alone; but we look to point blend them, and not in a single family at this TIME, but in several, each with a part of a Requirement..moving to the whole of that requirement; and with several Relatted, SEMI; but not inbred , indiscriminaetly.
That we look upon a male and a female and they fit, to find that they are SIBS; would you not mate them; seeking improvement; but this does not happen, but each, and every Youngster is a very, very valuble Breeder, and will literally Push us FOWARD;IF the sibs have a LOW COE of inbreeding( semi related, maybe even the OUTCROSS of something; and if we point blended carefully to this POINT in a Quest to improve.
We want to SEE all that is THE IDEAL of minds EYE, for MINDS EYE goes beyond the Std of Perfection, if we study and get some Breeding experience.
The fantail is NOT like Breeding SHOW ROLLERS: WE must break down the general REquirements in their individidual ATTRIBUTES; and then we must place each Group(indiv requirement) so that it Interfaces with the Bodee shape, ceramic feather, yes the ROLLER TYPE REQUIREMENTS; and then, we must LOOK to the UNDER_carriage GR(plural?)
The general Requirements for the Fatail are of TWO TYPES: 1. those that are LIKE BREEDING SHOW ROLLERS 2. those that are multifaceted /complex with attributes
Then we must interface both TYPES of Gen requirements while building the under-carriage with pieces( genome of Genotype, and of phenotype) of which, the INTERFACing comes not only from GR's(1&2) but of the PHYSICAL BALANCE.
WHICH WE don't really know how to explain this early in the AM; but..we CAN SEE IT....even when they do not WALK, but have that ability( POGUE) to be continued? NOTES:
