I Have Never Heard These Bands That Start With The Letter M

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Major Thinkers
Mal & Val
Man Sized Action
Paul Marotta (solo)
Patrick D.Martin
Matt Finish
Richard Mazda
Men & Volts
Merton Parkas
Meteors (Dutch)
Meteors (U.K.)
Method Actors
Los Microwaves/David Microwave
Middle Class
Miltown Stowaways
Minimal Man
Minny Pops
Missing Presumed Dead
Moberlys/Jim Basnight & The Moberlys
Modern Eon
Modern Man
R.Stevie Moore
Anthony More (solo)
Micronotz/Mortal Micronotz
Elton Motello
Motor Boys Motor
Mud Hutters
Munchener Freiheit
Mutants (San Fran)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

any good?

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

There have been Modettes threads recently. (I assume the same as Mo-dettes. Maybe not.)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Machinations were sort of synthy new wave that I know several Australians here with better memories swear by, at least for a few singles. They developed into something blander by the mid-80's.

Minny Pops were a Factory band. They made little impression on me. I strongly suspect they too have their adherents here though...

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Man Sized Action would probably not be remembered had Bob Mould not produced 1983's 'Claustrophobia' (Reflex)" it says here.

Middle Class - first hardcore single ever, probably, in 1978 - LA band fast as fuck for the time, pretty good.

Malaria - synthy post-punk ladies from Germany, early 80s, Chicks On Speed covered one of their songs. I have a remix album that came out about five years ago, but it's not terrifically good

DJ Mencap0))), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

Minimal Man
Minny Pops
Modern Eon
R.Stevie Moore
Elton Motello

In order:

Minimal Man: SF-based dude on Subterrenean and then elsewhere who was friends with Tuxedomoon. First album The Shroud Of now rereleased through LTM -- slots in with early T-moon, Chrome, etc. Pretty good actually.

Minny Pops as mentioned, also LTM rereleased. I like 'em but they're pretty low key.

Modern Eon -- the Great Lost Early Eighties UK Band (now that the Homosexuals got rereleased). Tim Finney has the best write-up on them in the archives somewhere.

R. Stevie Moore -- the original home recorder or something, eight million albums and tapes. Friendly enough guy, Sparks freak, was on the Sparks list I ran for a while, and maybe is still on.

Elton Motello -- the dude! The guy who wrote/sang "Ca Plane Pour Moi," which then became "Jet Boy Jet Girl"! Etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

Haven't heard the Dutch Meteors, but I used to like the UK Meteors a fair bit. Sort of Cramps-ish but punkier, I suppose. They described themselves as "psychobilly" -- rockabilly, only faster.
Of the albums I've heard, I liked "Wreckin' Crew" ('83) and "Sewertime Blues" (86).

I am enjoying these lists, by the way...

Surfer_Stone_Rosalita (Surfer_Stone_Rosalita), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Merton Parkas--

Ladies and gentlemen, The Jam, only from a different town.

Chris Toenes, Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

I recommend the Modettes and R Stevie Moore (as noted above, there have been threads recently about the former, and as for the latter, I'd find it difficult to describe his stuff because there's just so much of it, and it fluctuates wildly in style... fluctuates in quality, too, I guess).

emil.y (emil.y), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

Elton Motello -- the dude! The guy who wrote/sang "Ca Plane Pour Moi," which then became "Jet Boy Jet Girl"! Etc.

I thought it was the other way around. Motello did "Jet Boy Jet Girl" and Plastic Bertrand did the "Ca Plane Pour Moi." Anyway, I had the Motello record before the latter. "Jet Boy Jet Girl" had the repeated hook, "He gave me head -- Hoo hoo hoo hoo" and "I'm gonna make you be a girl," nothing of which seemed to be in the Bertrand version. Or else I wasn't listening closely enough.

Mortal Micronotz were a Kansas indie-altie rock band. Chuck liked them.

George Smith, Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Anthony More (or Moore) solo: his best known album, "Flying Doesn't Help" is good, often like Waters Pink Floyd meets song-oriented Brian Eno. Much more rock than Slapp Happy. "Out" is good Kevin Ayers type stuff. Early minimalist records discussed in another thread. His other solo albums are kind of on the slick side.

dlp9001, Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Method Actors are one of the great unsung bands from the first wave of the Athens GA scene in the late 70s/ early 80s. Just guitar and drums, but not blues-obsessed like those sort of outfits tend to be these days. More krautrock and new wave, kind of like Pylon and other bands of that time and place. Not as kitchy as The B52s and not as jangly as REM. The Rhythms of You mini-album is certainly worth seeking out.

Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

Malaria! - German neue deutsche welle off-kilter femme punk-funk-dub answer to Kleenex/Lilliput/Delta 5 Bush Tetras; like many German bands, deserve extra points by virture of sounding German.

Man Sized Action -- Part of a long tradition of boring Chicago post-Pezband/pre-Green (er, maybe even pre-Naked Raygun/Effigies) powerpop. Or something. I dunno, maybe they weren't boring. Or even powerpop. But I'm pretty sure they were from Chicago.

Paul Marotta (solo) -- The Mirrors guy, right? From Cleveland? Avant solo piano (I think) stuff. Kinda nifty, though not as nifty as his Mirrors stuff. Unless he was in the Styrenes instead. (Well,actually, all of those Cleveland guys were in all those Cleveland bands...)

Men & Volts -- New England off-kilter Beefheart fans, or okay maybe Hampton Grease Band (Dixie Dregs?) fans. Kinda rootsy like 2nd/3rd album Meat Puppies, though less so, okay maybe more like Minutemen. I reviewed them in the Boston Phoenix once, actually.

Method Actors - Athens off-kilter art-punk funksters. Not as good as Pylon; probably better than Love Tractor (who weren't bad) (and whose name rhymed with the Method Actors) though.

Mo-Dettes -- Brit sub-Lilliput artpunk goils, I think. Didn't they do "White Mice Disco" or soemthing like that? It was on some compilation CD a few years back

Morells - The pride of Springfield Missouri, later turned in the Skeletons, or maybe they were the Skeltons first, or only one guy joined the Skeletons. Vaguely rockabilly-ish/proto-alt country (the roots of Uncle Tupelo? only better. But not *that* much better)

Micronotz/Mortal Micronotz -- Best band ever to come out of Lawrence, Kansas, probably. Slightly Stoogey teenage punks. I was a big fan of their first album and followup EP; even used to own a cassette w/ stuff they recorded BEFORE the first album. (A Lawrence compilation I guess). I don't own any of it anymore. One of the first bands I reviewed in the Voice; Xgau turned down my initial pitch, and then I convinced him by saying I was going to emphasize a growing up bored in the Midwest nowhere motif. Which eventually became one of my early shticks, I guess. How sad I don't own any Micronotz rekkids anymore.

Elton Motello -- Did "Jet Boy Jet Girl," the English language version of Plastic Bertrand's "Ca Plane Pour Moi"; contrary to some early new wave guide books, they were apparently two different people. (I go into a paragraph or so spiel on all the competing covers of these songs -- all of which are great by definition) in the Jet Boy chapter of my second book.) The album with "Jet Boy Jet Girl" was always too expensive to buy (it was easier to find on gay disco comps around then), but Elton Motello's more robot-pop second album is always around everywhere, cheap, to this day I think. Nothing as good as "Jet Boy Jet Girl" on it, of course, but it's still worth looking around for.

Motor Boys Motor -- Brit blooze punks, later evolved into the excellent Screaming Blue Messiahs, one of whose main riffs is accidentally swiped in the title/opening track of Miranda Lambert's very good *Kerosene*, currently the #1 album on the country chart.

Mutants (San Fran) -- Never heard them, but the DETROIT Mutants (of "So American" fame) were cool, and got their self-released 45 played on Detroit AOR stations in 1979 that I much preferred to the Romantics' self-released 45 ("Tell it to Carrie") that got played regularly on Detroit AOR stations the same year, before they got famous (and better -- if you're gonna buy a Romantics LP, go for the second one, *National Breakout*, obviously)

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

minimal man also did a nice cover of robert ashley's "she was a visitor," it's on the aforementioned album the shroud of.

+, Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

Monsoon was Sheila Chandra's band before she went solo. They were an Anglo-Indian pop dance band. Their best songs are "Shakti (The Meaning of Within" and "Ever So Lonely". Very pretty, with lots of sitars, obviously. They did a kind of predictable cover of "Tomorrow Never Knows".

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Elton Motello album with "Jet Boy Jet Girl" on it is fantastic! Really catchy pop-punk all the way through with a sort of trashy English homo circa 1978 lyrical slant. It is much harder to find than Pop Art, the next one, but it's so much better! I don't know what was up between him and Plastic Bertrand, but he also covers "Sha La La La Lee" just like Plastic Bertrand and does his own version of "Pogo Pogo" with English lyrics. "I like to shoot I like to sip/A rabid dog is really hip/I steal a mainline to the tram/so I can watch the latest band/mamamama pogo pogo."

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh, the album's called Victim of Time.

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Merton Parkas--

Ladies and gentlemen, The Jam, only from a different town.

Imdeed, so much so keyboardist formed the Style Council with Paul Weller.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Should read....

Indeed, so much so keyboardist Mick Talbot formed the Style Council with Paul Weller

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

a few quibbles w/ Chuck:

The Morrells were too "peppy" and 60s-pop-influenced to qualify as alt-country. Their hook was a beehived middleaged gal keyboarder.

Man Size Action came way after powerpop/Pezband, more of the Big Black generation. Might've even been from Minneapolis?

Method Actors were no way better than not-bad Love Tractor IMHO. But now that I think about, haven't listened to either in years so who knows? Do hearts still skip a beat for Pylon? That Athens scene feels like ancient history this afternoon.

And mentions of the Detroit Mutants and Skafish in the same day! The flip to "So American" was of course the imortal "Piece O' Shit." HAHAHAHAGAG

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

Actually, come to think of it, did Man Sized Action maybe have some kind of connection to Breaking Circus?? I still remember them being not nearly as captivating as lots of the other bands coming out of the midwest in the mid '80s (big black, breaking circus, killdozer, die kreuzen, angry red planet, green, naked raygun, effigies, etc,), but yeah, i guess they were still no material issue much less off broadway in the powerless chicago powerpop department. (if they were even from chicago, that is.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

muenchener freiheit are very typical post-ndw mid-80s german mainstream pop. search "solang man traeume noch leben kann" and "ohne dich"

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

Man Sized Action were MPLS based, first record on Mould's label, second "Five Story Garage" (1986) on Homestead. One of the guys in the band ended up in Brick Layer Cake...Brian Paulson, I think. So early/mid 80's.

John Justen (johnjusten), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

jeezus, i had forgotten all about Green!! I had an album of theirs a zillion years ago. i don't even remember why i bought it. thery musta got compared to someone else i liked. wow, what a time-warp moment.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

Man-Sized Action were boring. So that part's right.

And the Elton Motello CD is too expensive, also. Toobad, because "I Am The Marshal" was also a great song and many more people should hear it.


R. Stevie Moore was home-recordist of quirky pop songs who used to release lots of cassettes, I think, some of which made it into records. New Jersey based? He also made it to the age of CD.

George Smith, Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Middle Class were based in Santa Ana, CA (not to counter the L.A. claim above.. Santa Ana is in O.C. which is greater L.A. area), and arguably produced the first hardcore single ever..

from the American Hardcore book:

1978 7" EP (Joke records): "Out Of Vogue; You Belong; Situations; Insurgence" Jeff A - Vocals * Mike A - guitar * Mike Patton - bass * Bruce Atta - drums [surely a different Mike Patton]

And the first strictly Hardcore record? That's up to debate. If you lived on the West Coast, you'd say the "Out Of Vogue" single by Middle Class of Santa Ana, who played an ultra-fast, monotonal style -- two minutes per song max. East Coasters would cite Bad Brains' legendary "Pay To Cum" 7"

LOU BARLOW (Deep Wound): The Middle Class 7" -- I'm convinced that is the first Hardcore record. I got it before I heard Minor Threat. I got the first Meat Puppets 7" too -- a whole other side. It resonates deeply to me because it's fierce yet melodic ... a real sense of melody and soul. There were so many weird, cool bands for a while. It was people craving noise.

JACK RABID (editor,The Big Takeover): Anyone who heard "Pay To Cum" by the Bad Brains had to have a copy. There was nothing like it. Then I heard "Out Of Vogue" by Middle Class, and around the same time Rhino 39's Dangerhouse single came out. But those groups weren't nearly as good as the Bad Brains. "Out Of Vogue" may have predated "Pay To Cum" but it's not all that good ... a historical piece, the first of its kind, but it had no impact. Without question, The Germs' album impacted the most. The DC scene owes its entire raison d'être to "Pay To Cum."

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

When was the *Process of Eliimination* EP on Touch & Go? (Didn't the Necros and maybe Negative Approach's first records predate DC and LA stuff?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

That Middle Class record was '78! Definitely proto-hardcore. The first Negative Approach ep wasn't until '82.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

how about vom's *live at surf city* EP? That was '78, right? (had to be proto-hardcore since a couple members wound up in the angry samoans!)

(and ok, i guess you're right about neg approach; I can never remember where they fit in. but again, what about the necros?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

There was also an NYC band called the Stimulators who played Max's KC in the late 70s and may qualify as proto-hardcore. Their drummer was a kid who wound up in the Cro-Mags. I think they had a song called "Loud Fast Rules" too but I don't know who coined that slogan.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

'81 on first Necors ep.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:55 (4 years ago) Permalink


Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

I have this 7" (after losing it in a friend's car which fell into her spare tire case a year ago.. looong story) by these kids from Sweden(?) called The Silver, which is "Do You Wanna Dance"/"Popper" which is proto hardcore/noise as well, but I don't have the date for it.. I'm guessing 1978-1980 maybe?

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

I have that. Yeah, 1980, I think. Sounds more like little kids messing around than actual proto-hardcore, though.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

well can't messing around qualify for "proto" anything, though? I don't think any artist/band consciously tries to invent anything when they are namechecked in the future as being proto whatever.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

I just don't hear it as sounding much like hardcore whereas that Middle Class single (predating hardcore by a few years) does, I think.

TS: The Prats vs. The Silver

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ah ok, gotcha.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Munchener Freiheit were frankly horrible. Do you remember that Donny Osmond song 'Soldier of Love'? They sounded identical to that but with more vocal harmonies, maybe like a pop version of Foreigner. BUT THAT IS GIVING THEM WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT! If, hypothetically, you really had a stiffy for terrible 80s Bavarian nonsense, I'd probably say stick it in the Spider Murphy Gang first.

I had a Men & Volts album at one point,I think it was one of their later ones. Off-kilter Mid-West pop, they were a like a comfort blanket version of Pere Ubu. Had seen them compared to MX-80 but the thing I had was frankly no way as noisy or as good as that. Maybe they were more like Mofungo. Pals of Kramer and the main guy (Dave Greenberger) ran that 'Duplex Planet' fanzine. Scott, you must have read about these fellows in Chemical Imbalance all the time!

(oh and I had a Green album too - Elaine McKenzie. Didn't like it all that much, but it did have one really good pop song on it, 'Radio Caroline'. That guy had a horrible voice though.)

NickB (NickB), Monday, 11 April 2005 08:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Patrick D.Martin had a novelty new wave song called "I Like 'Lectric Motors", which I remember as being rather insistent and annoying.

The only R.Stevie Moore track I know is "I Wish I Could Sing" from 1978. I remember mentally filing it along with the quirky-modern Akron lot.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Pals of Kramer and the main guy (Dave Greenberger) ran that 'Duplex Planet' fanzine. Scott, you must have read about these fellows in Chemical Imbalance all the time!"

i still have a chemical imbalance 7-inch. it has mofungo and galaxie 500 on it. and maybe daniel johnston. yeah, i remember the name men & volts and i remember seeing the records, i just never heard any. David Greenberger lives next to my dad. They are pals. i never understood the game theory love in chemical imbalance. but maybe i never heard the right album.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

I bought the Morells' "Shake and Push" because Jimmy Guterman called it one of the 100 best rock albums ever, which it's not. The cover has a photo of this Springfield burger joint they liked called "Red's", and there's a song called "Red's", along with tunes called "Gettin' in Shape" and "Growin' a Beard." They were kind of jokey.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 11 April 2005 12:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

I object to people's negativity about (Munchener) Freiheit. Dropping the first bit of their name, they reached no. 14 in the UK in 1988 with Keeping the Dream Alive, a wonderfully epic AOR power ballad that still gets played from time to time, usually around Xmas. I love this song.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 April 2005 12:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

Richard Mazda was the singer/leader of the Tours, who made one John Peel approved single called 'Language School' in about 1979. I bet he ran the local studio in his home town, which was Poole or Bournemouth or Weymouth- somewhere with lots of language schools anyway.

snotty moore, Monday, 11 April 2005 12:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

Keeping the Dream Alive, a wonderfully epic AOR power ballad

thats the english version of 'solang man traeume noch leben kann'! i had no idea such a thing existed. 'herz aus glas' is worth a listen as well if you dont mind falsetto singing and plodding paul mccartney style production with italo disco leanings; it has a very catchy chorus

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

I can only remember 'Ohne Dich' off the top of my head.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

David Greenberger lives next to my dad. They are pals. i never understood the game theory love in chemical imbalance. but maybe i never heard the right album.

Well good for your Dad, cos Greenberger always seemed like a really nice guy in those pieces, both interesting and thoughtful. Never really tried to hear Game Theory, never seemed like my sort of thing.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

i have a minimal man single! two little skeletons. i ordered it mail order sometime in the 80's for reasons unknown to me. its very good. catchy and slightly harsh industrial pop w guitar

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

I have the supposedly "Radio Friendly" version of Motello's "Jet Boy" single.


mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Me too. The chorus goes "He gives me hell" rather than "He gives me head".

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

Someone from Duplex Planet once contacted me to try and secure some review copies of records. They were supposed to be for a column written around the impressions of an old man who appeared to be senile or suffering from some type of dementia in a nursing home.

So I read a few columns and thought they were supremely wretched, the idea bankrupt and exploiting just for the sake of weirdness, and never sent the records.

George Smith, Monday, 11 April 2005 14:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't know about the Flatbackers. The Bureau is plausible - I definitely saw them around the same time. I noticed that there's a new Bureau retrospective out now.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Mud Hutters - UK post-punk group active early 80's. I used to have their (only?) album 'Cultivation' (1981?) which wasn't too bad at all. Title track is the only one I remember in my head. Sold it in the Great Vinyl Sale of '91 (sigh). Think they're from Hull or somewhere like that. Worth a look.

Miltown Stowaways - NZ band from mid-80's, can't remember much about them - lots of horns? Probably saw them live, but who knows?

Benjamin Morgan, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I have never heard these "M" bands from Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Albums 1955-1996 book:

(At least I don't think I have. At least not much. Unless I'm wrong about a couple, but so what):

Tony MacAlpine
Mac Band featuring the McCampbell Brothers
Madame X
The Mad Lads
Mad River
Mad Season
Mad Skillz
Cledus Maggard and the Citizen's Band
The Magic Organ
The Magnificent Men
Mama's Boys
Charlie Manna
The Marmalade
Neville Marriner
Marilyn Martin
Carolyne Mas
Mason Proffit
Mass Production
Material Issue
Max Q
Letta Mbulu
M.C. Pooh
MC Shy D
MC Skat Kat and the Stray Mob
McBride and the Ride
Alton McClain & Destiny
The McCrarys
Brother Jack McDuff
McGuffey Lane
McKendree Spring
Kristy and Jimmy McNichol
Zubin Mehtra
George Melchrino and his Orchestra
Men At Large
Men Of Vizion
The Merry-Go-Round
Midnight String Quartet
The Mighty Lemon Drops
Mrs. Miller
Millions Like Us
Garnet Mimms & The Enchanters
Minor Detail
Mr. Mike
The Moms & Dads
The Monroes
Montana Orchestra
The Moog Machine
Mother Earth
Moving Pictures
Idris Muhammad
Gerry Mulligan's Jazz Combo
Murder Squad
Gary Myrick
The Mystic Moods

There is a jazz drummer on the list, and also an actress I had a crush on as a teenager, who I have almost definitely "heard," though never on their own albums. It's very possible I've heard Mother Earth, too, though I don't think so; also, there are some one-hit wonders whose hits would probably ring a bell if I managed to hear them again. The artist above who placed the most albums in the Top 200 is Mystic Moods, who placed 12. (Though even they can't match Moms Mabley, who placed 13, all in the '60s, which I never would have guessed. But I've heard at least a couple of hers before, I'm pretty sure.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 March 2008 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mighty Lemon Drops are the only band listed above I can cop to having heard..."Inside Out" was their big college radio hit...similar to Echo & The Bunnymen, but blander...saw them too, sold-out show at St. Andrews Hall in Detroit...

henry s, Saturday, 8 March 2008 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

as everyone knows, mystic moods are the bomb.

mirabai is not the bomb.

idris muhammad is totally the bomb.

mother earth were not very bomb-like.

i have a mistress album. that's all for them.

mrs. miller was a hollywood pawn.

mighty lemon drops had two really good songs.

the merry-go-round were mod awesomeness.

i have a mercy album.

hahaha, i have lots of zubin mehta albums!

i was just listening to mckendree spring yesterday.

material issue had one great song.

i have four mason profitt albums. why?

i have two mandre albums.

cledus maggard and the citizen's band were a CONVOY tribute band! for real. i've got loads of their stuff. they just wanted to sound c.w. mccall.

i have the first mad river album. it's great. but they mastered it too fast or something, so it sounds like speed metal psych. i'd like to hear the reissue.

i had a mad season record. i never played it.

scott seward, Saturday, 8 March 2008 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

material issue gratuitously and blatantly ripped off fellow chicagoans green.

the marmalade's "i see the rain" (1968, i think) is the source point for everything aimee mann ever recorded.

gerry mulligan was a baritone saxophonist, played a key role in the miles davis "birth of the cool" sessions.

brother jack mcduff was a great organist, in a similar vein to jimmy smith and wild bill davis.

tony macalpine was a hella wanky yngwie-styled guitarist.

the mad lads were a stax group ("i don't want to lose your love" was the hit).

Lawrence the Looter, Saturday, 8 March 2008 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

cledus maggard and the citizen's band were a CONVOY tribute band!

They allegedly had a hit called "White Knight" (went to #19 pop*; followup "Kentucky Moonrunner" went #89.) The "Convoy" wannabe song I remember actually hearing on the radio on the time, though, was something called "C.B. Savage," recited in a lispy, swishy voice by, um, one Rod Hart (just looked it up -- it went #67 in 1976; Whitburn calls it a "'gay' answer to C.W. McCall's hit 'Convoy'"!)

* -- except, uh, I just checked my 45s shelf, and it was there! (I must have bought it really cheap once a long time ago, played it once or twice, and then filed it.) Mercury 73751; "The White Knight" on both A and B sides; "produced by Leslie Advertising Agency." Guess I should listen to it...

As for Material Issue, I probably heard them and tuned them out. But yeah, that's what I sort of remembered -- limp powerpop-without-much-power in the great Chicago tradition of the Pezband and Off Broadway (who both might have been better than I thought at the time; haven't really checked lately.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 March 2008 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

"C.B. Savage" by Rod Hart:


xhuxk, Saturday, 8 March 2008 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

(S F) Mutants had a cool ditty i recall hearing back around 1982 called "my girlfriend is a rock". that's all i recall
also had a early R. Stevie Moore cassette long time ago; the only memorable thing was a great cover of the Andy Griffith theme

outdoor_miner, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

here is what i wrote about mistress on my blog:

Mistress – S/T (RSO – 1979) Lite southern-style rock and pop. “High On The Ride” is some catchy stuff. One of these days I will listen to the second side to hear their version of “Cinnamon Girl”. Mistress would like to thank the Aphex Aural Exciter. Cover shot: Completely white cover with raised letters that spell Mistress. Wouldn’t you just know that the M in Mistress takes the form of long lovely legs in high heels.

scott seward, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

i just bought a 415 records comp yesterday from the early 80's with mutants on it. full band-listing (actually the comp made me think of these threads):

the readymades

times 5

the mutants


sudden fun

the donuts


the symptoms

the vips

jo allen and the shapes

the offs

scott seward, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Madhouse - Prince related project

Mama's Boys - Heavy Metal band from Northern Ireland

The Marmalade - Late 60's pop act from Glasgow, biggest hit a cover of Ob-La-Di Oh-bla-Da

Marilyn Martin - (Broadway ?) Baladeer, biggest hit was duet 'Separate Lives' with Phil Collins.

Max Q - Michael Hutchence dance project

Millions Like Us - Another drab mid-80's UK soul act, name was a tribute to the Average White Band

The Moog Machine - never heard of them. but I bet they're the best thing here.

Billy Dods, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

There was another Madhouse who were an Aussie dance act who covered 'Like a Prayer' but that was late 90s/early 00's so guess the one in the book is the Prince one.

Billy Dods, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Madame X -- too early hair metal band featuring Sebastian Bach and the Petrucci girls. Album produced by Rick Derringer. Scary, and not in a good way.

Mama's Boys -- a group made up of brothers cashing in on the NWOBHM. Perpetual undercard band.

Gary Myrick -- well regarded LA guitarist/singer/songwriter. Made an album -- Gary Myrick and the Big Picture (?) which I had once but didn't think highly enough of to keep.

Gorge, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Madhouse album has one of my favourite sleeves...

Billy Dods, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Madame X -- Scary, and not in a good way.

Gorge, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Gorge, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh wait, I have that Madame X album too, duh! Yeah, perty skeery....(Actually the cover is hilarious. The guys in the band have cucumbers in their pants.)

Apparently Mama's Boys covered "Mama We're All Crazee Now" by Slade on an album that came out a week after the album where Quiet Riot covered the same song, but Quiet Riot had a bigger U.S. hit with it. Now I'm wondering if Mama's Boys' version was any good, and how Slade-like their other stuff was.

Also, Marilyn Martin had a #28 hit called "Night Moves" in 1986. Not sure if it was a Bob Seger cover.

Gary Myrick and the Big Picture

I thought it was Gary Myrick and the Figures. (That's what google says, too; album was 1980, but maybe he had more than one band. I used to see the Figures one in the store a lot, but was never remotely tempted to but the thing, for some reason. His charting solo album came out in 1983, though.)

And yeah, this Madhouse were apparently Prince-related. As were alleged "funk-rock group" Mazerati.

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Zubin Mehta is a classical conductor, most famous for conducting the 'Three Tenors' concert at the 1990 World Cup.

Billy Dods, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mama's Boys were pretty much boring blues rock, they had one smoky-jazzish single called "Needle In The Groove" that was ok but that was about it. Rock festival perennials, they bored the arse off me in muddy fields more times than I care to remember. One of the McManus brothers died I think (maybe they were all brothers? - hence the name I suppose), and one of the others is in Celtus now, who are Irish folk fiddle-dee-dumb bullshit as far as I know. There, that's lots of info about a band not really deserving of it!

Matt #2, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Manchild, isn't this a solo project by the guy from Consolidated?

Matt #2, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, Gary Myrick and the Figures, that was it. And, no, Mama's Boys -- as indicated by Matt #2, aren't worth further investigation unless it's for 25 cents to 50 cents per item.

That is a young woman in Madame X, BTW, not a transvestite with a Les Paul.

Gorge, Saturday, 8 March 2008 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Manchild, isn't this a solo project by the guy from Consolidated?

Not this Manchild, unless his solo project was "formed in Indianalopis in 1974" and featured....what the hell?....Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds. I had no idea that Babyface was in a band whose album charted (#154) in 1977, were you?

Also had no idea that Sebastian Bach was in Madame X. He's not on the album I have (with or without a cucumber); maybe he was in a later version of the band? (Either way, turns out they're not the Madame X who charted in the Top 200, who were a "West Coast based female vocal trio" from 1987, featuring Alisa Randolph, a solo album by whom I reviewed and probably overrated in the Voice around 1990 or so.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mud Hutters were from Manchester and had Richard Harrison, later of the Spaceheads. Associated with the whole Manchester Musicians Collective (Bathroom Renovations, Dislocation Dance, Diagram Boys, Liggers--see the Unzipping the Abstract comp LP). They had two great diy 7"s, and then some more muted (Factory atmospherics) tracks on the Four Ways Out comp LP and on an LP of their own. Ripe for a small reissue. One song on a Messthetics cd.

Missing Presumed Dead had a couple diy/post punk LPs and a 7". UK 1980-ish. The "How's Your Bum for Cracking Walnuts?" LP is quite nice.

Middle Class were the first band to sound hardcore--by which I mean playing so stripped down and quickly that they were playing through the melodies that would have been there if they'd played the songs (on their first 7" and the Tooth and Nail comp) as punk songs. And, of course, they were the first post hardcore band...check out "Blueprint for Joy" on their second 7" (also on their Homeland LP in better fidelity). It's gorgeous.

Michael Train, Sunday, 9 March 2008 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, Chuck, if you know how to tunnel with Google, Bach was in Madame X. Not that it made a diff. Group -- too early hair metal defined by Seduce etc. Seduce were picked up by IRS. I remember you reviewing them in Creem. Like Madame X, they went nowhere. Bass player for Madame X went to LA and did OK in Vixen. Vixen live in front of Eddie Money at Montclair State, NJ, '89 == utterly ruling. Looked great, played great.

You were stuck in suburban Philly prior to grokking the Pennsy back room was up the northeast extension to the Quakertown Mart, after moving from Michigan. Pennsyltucky was the same as Livonia/Hamtramck/etc, as you found out, only more southern.

Gorge, Sunday, 9 March 2008 07:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Madhouse - tried quite hard to get into them at the height of my Prince fandom circa 87/88, but it was just anonymous standard issue Paisley Park sort-of jazzy instrumentals as I recall.

Marmalade's 1972 UK hit "Radancer" is a feisty little Britgum rocker.

After my great uncle was killed in the First World War, his widow re-married, giving birth to the classical orchestral conducter Neville Marriner in 1924. So heaven knows what he's doing on this list...

Letta Mbulu is an absolutely fantastic old-school South African diva, srident and imperious in the manner of Miriam Makeba/Odetta, and comes highly recommended - try "What Is Wrong With Groovin'"

MC Shy D's "Got To Be Tough" (1987) was a big club hit in the places I used to go; quite uptempo, samples a familiar chant from Earth Wind & Fire.

Mrs Miller was easy listening's answer to Florence Foster Jenkins, ie. flagrantly bad singing seemingly done unwittingly. Her take on "Downtown" will live with me always.

Montana Orchestra was a Vince Montana project, had a big club hit (in the UK at least) with "Heavy Vibes", circa 1983 I think, which was essentially a jazz-funk re-working of MFSB "Love Is The Message" with, er, vibes.

Mother Earth were a bunch of hairies on the Acid Jazz label, nothing particuarly remarkable as I recall.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 9 March 2008 11:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Marmalade - I have a re-issue on Tenth Planet that's not bad. The band was definitely second-tier fake pop-sike. If you’re a fan of that stuff though it might tickle your fancy.

Merry Go Round - This was Emmitt Rhodes' first band. They had amazing potential, but a combination of youthful stupidity (these guys were only 16-17) and record company incompetence did them in. Revola's re-issue scraped together most of their songs into one handy CD. Get it if it's still available. The band had a way of combining McCartney style melody, Byrdsian jangle, and garage band thump that was really special.

Mutants - There are a million bands called Mutants. I've only heard the "Hard Times" Mutants who I think are English. The single is catchy hard rock pretend punk. The SF Mutants I've certainly seen. Their pictures were plastered all over the book Hardcore California. From the photos they looked more performance art than punk.

Mortal Micronotz - The first LP is pretty good. Sludgy garage punks with a William Burroughs connect. They had a later LP on Homestead with a different singer that is more generic.

leavethecapital, Sunday, 9 March 2008 12:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Moog Machine - never heard of them. but I bet they're the best thing here.

The Moog Machine were a studio construct basically consisting of Kenny Ascher (keyboardist) and Alan Foust (arranger), put together by Norman Dolph, the same record executive who helped start The Velvet Underground! They produced two LPs in 1969/70, "Switched on Rock" (Beatles, Stones etc moog covers; by coincidence a CD rip version is sitting on my CD palyer at this very moment waiting to be played) and "Christmas Goes Electric" (moog versions of Christmas carols).

The Mystic Moods = early 70s funky-easy-listening-prog act later sampled by DJ Shadow & Cut Chemist

Jeff W, Sunday, 9 March 2008 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

classical orchestral conducter Neville Marriner in 1924. So heaven knows what he's doing on this list...

He's there for his version of Amadeus, which charted in 1984 (in the wake of Falco? Or maybe the movie? I'm not sure which came first.)

Mother Earth were a bunch of hairies on the Acid Jazz label

Was this a revived version, or a different band? The charting Mother Earth were Tracy Nelson's hippie country-rock band, circa turn of the '70s.

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 March 2008 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Actually, if I'm understanding Whitburn correctly, Marriner's Amadeus apparently was the movie soundtrack. (It charted in Nov 1984; "Rock Me Amadeus" by Falco not until February 1986.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 March 2008 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Re. Mother Earth: it was a different band. Definitely not the turn of the 70s bunch.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 9 March 2008 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Idris Muhammad

Idris Muhammad is a great jazz drummer, better known for killer grooves than flashy soloing I guess. If you want to hear some tasty soulful playing with a touch of free/spiritual jazz, the Black Rhythm Revolution!/Peace & Rhythm two-albums-on-one-CD is a nice buy. After those he signed to the CTI/Kudu label and did some smoother fusion albums there. Out of them, my favourite is House of the Rising Sun. It has one of the best versions ever of the titular song, and also "Sudan", a 11-minute tune which is nothing but pure groove, no proper choruses or anything, just incredibly funky interplay between the bass and the drums.

Tuomas, Sunday, 9 March 2008 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Chicagoans Material Issue have their very own 20th Century Masters Millennium comp, featuring their big hit "Valerie Loves Me" - I believe the lead singer killed himself, the poor man.

The Marmalade hit I hear on oldies radio here is "Reflections."

Max Q was Michael Hutchence's side project during his time with INXS - the album came out in '90 I think and was darker than his main group's stuff - not bad at all.

2for25, Monday, 10 March 2008 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

just listened to this album recently for the first time in years etc etc, it's so goooooood.

m coleman, Monday, 10 March 2008 09:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Chicagoans Material Issue have their very own 20th Century Masters Millennium comp, featuring their big hit "Valerie Loves Me" - I believe the lead singer killed himself, the poor man.

Sadly, he did. Jim Ellison committed suicide in 1996 supposedly because of a failed relationship, or his struggles in the music business, or both. At the Who's show in Chicago that fall, Pete Townshend dedicated a song to him (but called him "Jim Allison").

Standing In The Shadows Of Bob, Monday, 10 March 2008 13:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

You haven't heard Mad Season, an all-rehab Seattle supergroup fronted by Layne Stayley and featuring Mike McCready?

You're not actually missing all that much. Worse than Temple of the Dog. And one of those cds that's IMPOSSIBLE to sell. Anyone who knows who they are already knows that it sucks and that no one else wants it.

I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 03:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I used to have a Malaria! EP. It wasn't bad. Decent feminist post punk, at least as good as Delta 5.

I'm sick to death of the Mo-dettes. Want nothing to do with them.

Method Actors get bonus points for being bizarre, but not much else.

Monsoon!!!! I was just thinking about Monsoon like a few days ago! Oh my god. Gonna pull out that CD right now. Along with Minimal Man, because of this thread.

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mass Production - did "Firecracker," sample source for "Me So Horny"

Motherlode - Canadian OHW from '70, "When I Die"

Echoing the accolades above for the Marmalade. "Reflections of My Life" was their only hit in the States, but the aforementioned "I See the Rain" was covered by Susanna Hoffs & Matthew Sweet on their covers album. They were pretty malleable; one of their releases was a version of "Lovin' Things" identical to the Grass Roots' while their later stuff was more power pop. And two pretty acoustic ballads, "Rainbow" and "My Little One."

Joseph McCombs, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

George Melchrino and his Orchestra - I think he/they did a Music for Relaxation disc I own. Beloved of the Incredibly Strange Music set.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mad Skillz - Rawkus affliliated rapper.
best track I've heard by him, was 'ghost writer' that featured on the Scratch Perverts mixtape of Rawkus tracks that was given away free with HHC.
Picked up the album proper many years later, but not as good.
Now known as just Skillz : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skillz

mark e, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

As for Material Issue, I probably heard them and tuned them out. But yeah, that's what I sort of remembered -- limp powerpop-without-much-power in the great Chicago tradition of the Pezband and Off Broadway

OTM. they are worshipped way, way, way out of proportion to their talent by power-pop fans. the touring "international pop overthrow" pop fest is named for one of their albums.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

monroes -- early '80s one-hit wonders whose "what do all the people know" is also worshipped by power-pop fans, and deservedly so. i'm sure you've heard it. it's badfinger with '80s keybs. and it's delicious.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have never heard these bands under "M" in Jasper & Oliver's International Encyclopedia of Hard Rock & Heavy Metal

Kathi McDonald
Murray McLauchlan
Madder Lake
Mad Max
Mama Lion
Manilla Road
Marc Tanner Band
Mean Street Dealers
Mendes Prey
Messendger (sic)
Hilly Michaels
Ben Mink
The Mix
Mondo Rock
Eve Moon
Mother's Ruin

Gorge, Thursday, 13 March 2008 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mama Lion infamous for the cover shot of vocalist Lynn Carey breast-feeding a lion cub. The music?... meh.

Dan Peterson, Thursday, 13 March 2008 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Murray McLauchlan = "performance poet" given an enormous amount of money once to make an album, not sure exactly what drugs the person who signed him was on at the time

Tom D., Thursday, 13 March 2008 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

... no, hold on, that's someone else, isn't it?

Tom D., Thursday, 13 March 2008 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Machiavel - Belgian prog, late 70's, album was called "Mechanical Moonbeams". Still going I think. Average.

Manilla Road - absolutely fucking awesome early 80's power metal, similar to Cirith Ungol but the musicians are better. I guess Pentagram is a better comparison. Lead singer / guitarist Mark "The Shark" Shelton has one of Those Voices, love it or hate it it'll slice through your brain. Actually they never split up, I believe they're playing some European festivals around about now. Recommended! Start with "Crystal Logic".

Mariner - Japanese prog-metal, late 70's, pretty mediocre.

Ben Mink was the violinist in Canadian prog-pompers FM. I think he played on a Rush track (on Grace Under Pressure?) too. Later on he was kd lang's arranger / producer and probably did very well out of it.

Money - more 70's Brit rockers riding in on the NWOBHM bandwagon, although they had an arty side to them that scuppered their commercial prospects really. Worth checking out, their album was called "First Investment" unfortunately.

Myofist changed their name to Fist and had a minor NWOBHM "hit" with "Name Rank And Serial Number". Pretty much comparable to Raven.

Mythra - more NWOBHM, their EP was great but I guess they didn't get picked up by a label and split. They shoulds moved to London!

Matt #2, Thursday, 13 March 2008 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow, gorge, you've never heard manilla road?????????????? that really surprises me. they would be your favorite band for real.

i have a medusa album. not very great. same with mistress. chuck has them on his list too.

lynn carey did better stuff than mama lion, but i think they were okay. and she is justly famous for her vocals on the beyond the valley of the dolls soundtrack.

scott seward, Thursday, 13 March 2008 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

From last year's rolling country thread:

Possibly semi-country oriented thrift store and junk barn purchases in Maryland and Virginia this week (entire list is on recent purchases thread):

Hilly Michaels* - Calling All Girls LP $1.00
-- xhuxk, Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:11 AM

Hilly Michaels LP I bought is a more fun new wave era sideman going solo album than the Lindsey Buckingham album, I'd say. The cover is very colorful, not unlike the Dan Hartman Instant Replay album he'd appeared on two years before (before 1980, that is.) Dancey beats are stolen from Bo Diddley's "I'm a Man," Blondie's "Call Me," and some minor glam-rock hit I can't place, but in a coked-up bubblegum L.A. studio pop-rock context, I guess. Though maybe Hilly was from England, come to think of it. Producer is Roy Thomas Baker; guest contributions come from Greg Hawkes, Davey Johnstone, Ellen Foley, Karla de Vito, Liza Minnelli. G.E. Smith, and Dan Hartman, among others. Rolling Stone Record Guide gives it just one star, dismissing Hilly as a "jive new waver," a "finger popper in post punk clothing," but then again so is Lindsey, who they say sings like a '50s teen balladeer and who they give three stars. Lindsey does sing better, I guess. But Hilly has more energetic hooks to pull off the zaniness. (And less to do with country music, come to think of it.)
-- xhuxk, Sunday, April 8, 2007 12:54 PM

xhuxk, Friday, 14 March 2008 02:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Jim Basnight & the Moberlys compilation "Seattle-New York-Los Angeles" is really, really good. It's #140 on John Borac's Top 200 power pop albums book. They were a poppier Replacements from Seattle, active throughout the '80s. "Rest Up" is a killer track.

MC, Saturday, 15 March 2008 19:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

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