As many of you know there has been a very disgruntled person posting on various message boards. I and a few castmembers (whom I will not name) may have solved this riddle. Below are emails I and the other cm have received. We worked together to connect them. It seems our friend has many personalities. Without prejudice: I suspect this culprit of being Alonzo Hawk, Silent Bob and Jay, and Darth Vader's son among the few others. I am sure he has other names but these are what I have right now. Please read the emails below, it includes the headers for each email so you know I am not making it up. I will try to keep them in order although it will be hard because they come from various castmembers and mailed to me. I have blacked out all email addresses (even the ones that has been causing trouble although I shouldn't) I will keep the cms responses in red.


This is the first email mailed to the "suspect" trying to get him to email back It wasn't meant as a serious statement

Subj: Bravo! Well done Date: 11/20/00 12:50:54 AM Central Standard Time From: xxx@aol.com To: xxx@yahoo.com

I am a regular reader of the castmember message boards and I must tell you, you are making quite a stir. I LOVE it! Those bologna heads keep threating to find you by your IP address and they don't even know how! BTW that is how I found you. It really isn't hard but when Walt Jr put up your IP I couldn't resist. I am cofused though, are you also Coran Horn, mace windu, Silent Bob and Jay and Tommy? I didn't get their IPs to match them up. The posts would be far more funnier if I knew which ones were yours. Some cms need to pull Mickey out of their asses. Are you an ex cm like me? Anyway, thanks for the laugh and keep it going



Here is his reply

Subj: Re: Bravo! Well done Date: 11/20/00 4:20:24 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@yahoo.com (xxx Hughs) To: xxx@aol.com

--- xxx@aol.com wrote:

I am a regular reader of the castmember message boards and I must tell you, you are making quite a stir. I LOVE it! Those bologna heads keep threating to find you by your IP address and they don't even know how! BTW that is how I found you. It really isn't hard but when Walt Jr put up your IP I couldn't resist. I am cofused though, are you also Coran Horn, mace windu, Silent Bob and Jay and Tommy? I didn't get their IPs to match them up. The posts would be far more funnier if I knew which ones were yours. Some cms need to pull Mickey out of their asses. Are you an ex cm like me? Anyway, thanks for the laugh and keep it going

Not sure what you're talking about. Do you have the correct E-mail address? >

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Here is the next reply

Subj: Re: Bravo! Well done Date: 11/20/00 4:20:24 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@yahoo.com (xxx Hughs) To: xxx@aol.com


Not sure what you're talking about. Do you have the correct E-mail address?

I'm positive Alonzo

Well ya got me sonny, but exactly who are you and what is your deal? I post as Hawk and Jay and Silent bob only. I don't know who Corn horn , mace windu, or Tommy are, although Tommy get's on my nerves. Who are you and are you the guy posing as Walt Jr trying to make him look bad? I for one like his board. The Walt Disney co. needs to be knocked down a few pegs every now and then and I don't like the way they hush things up that might hurt their image. So how bout it? What's your story?

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Here is the next reply, pay attention to the first sentence. (no offense to Tommy on the cms part)

Well ya got me sonny, but exactly who are you and what is your deal? I post as Hawk and Jay and Silent bob only. I don't know who Corn horn , mace windu, or Tommy are, although Tommy get's on my nerves. Who are you and are you the guy posing as Walt Jr trying to make him look bad?

No I usually don't post anything, I just read. I am a castmember whos hobby is computers. I took to trying to find out who everyone is as a fun thing to do. I just wasn't sure which people you were. Yes Tommy can get grating on the nerves. Are you a castmember too?

I for one like his board. The Walt Disney co. needs to be knocked down a few pegs every now and then and I don't like the way they hush things up that might hurt their image.

Yes but you are hurting the people who own the boards not the company. Walt Jr keeps his board open, it's nikki and connie who doesn't.

Who are you? and how did you find my e-mail address?

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Here is the next reply

First of all, you are certainly not Corran Horn, he and I have been E-mailing each other as well as Walt Jr, so I know you and he are not the same. Second, you cannot get an E-mail address through someones IP Address. You would have to have hacked your way through and we all know it is illeagal to hack into files. The only way for you to have gotten this E-mail adress is to have found a profile somehow. If your so good, find the other 67 E-mail addresses linked to this IP #.

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Here is the next reply

Subj: Re: IP Address Date: 11/28/00 10:43:14 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@yahoo.com (xxxHughs) To: xxx@aol.com

In a message dated 11/28/00 3:33:31 PM Central Standard Time, xxx@yahoo.com writes:

First of all, you are certainly not Corran Horn, he and I have been E-mailing each other as well as Walt Jr, so I know you and he are not the same.

Your right

Second, you cannot get an E-mail address through someones IP Address.

sure you can, You get a spider address then the email address, not hard, no hacking

You would have to have hacked your way through and we all know it is illeagal to hack into files. The only way for you to have gotten this E-mail adress is to have found a profile somehow. If your so good, find the other 67 E-mail addresses linked to this IP #.

You don't have a profile, I looked Pretty annoying when someone gives you a taste of your own medicine isn't it?

Not Really, doesn't make a difference to me, but who are you? Nikki, Fawkes, or Tommy?

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Here is the next reply pay attention to the last sentence.

Subj: Hey Genius.... Date: 11/29/00 5:22:33 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@yahoo.com (xxxHughs) To: xxx@aol.com

xxx@aol.com wrote:

Not even close If your so good, who else am I? Answer: No one Try and trace me to another E-mail- there's no way you can do it sonny.

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Here is the next reply This is him trying to fool the cm he is talking to by using a different name. The IP addresses are EXACTLY THE SAME. He thinks this cm is Tommy which he is not.

Subj: Hey.... Date: 11/29/00 5:34:28 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@yahoo.com (Darth Vader) To: xxx@aol.com

That's real cool how you spammed the hell out of that Concious Pilot guy. That freak thinks he knows it all. I love reading your e-mails to him. He doesn't know he's caught. You got him. He'll think twice before he plays those games on Nikki's and Walt Jr's boards again! Oh, by the way Tommy... I have you now!

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This is the message the cm got after I put a warning on my board.

Subj: Re: IP Address Date: 11/29/00 6:04:16 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@yahoo.com (xxxHughs) To: xxx@aol.com

xxx@aol.com wrote:

Not even close You sold me out to nikki you traitor. Your nothing but a nikki's @$$ kisser.

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This is the message I got after I put a warning on my board. He later signs onto the message board as hawkman1 not allowing me to keep my message board.

Subj: Your message board Date: 11/27/00 3:09:39 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx.com (Alonzo Hawk) To: glttrdst@aol.com

I read why you deleted my post. I happen to work for TDS in the Fashion Square mall two days a week and also work at the Magic Kingdom for which I recently celebrated 20 years. I also think you are a rude person who likes to control things to your liking. I'm sorry your having problems with Castmembers who like to raid your board with the not so pretty side of Disney but you should at least try to contact the person through E-mail first to find out the whole story. Now it seems you have others believing your retoric. You can keep your message board, I'll stick with Intercot and Walt Jr. Alonzo Hawk

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Now the challenge.

Subj: You the one I read about? Date: 11/30/00 3:12:37 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@yahoo.com (xxxHughs) To: xxx@aol.com

So Genius, can't find me at my other homes can you????

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and remember from Darth Vader?

Subj: Re: Hey.... Date: 11/30/00 3:15:39 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@yahoo.com (Darth Vader) To: xxx@aol.com

--- xxx@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/29/00 5:34:28 PM Central > Standard Time, > xxx@yahoo.com writes: > > > > That's real cool how you spammed the hell out of > that > > Concious Pilot guy. That freak thinks he knows it > all. > > I love reading your e-mails to him. He doesn't > know > > he's caught. You got him. > > > > He'll think twice before he plays those games on > > Nikki's and Walt Jr's boards again! > > > > Oh, by the way Tommy... > > > > > > > nice try alonzo, howard, whomever. > I'm not Tommy

I know, your an @$$HOLE! So tell me, how do you find all those wonderful toys? >

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If you notice the times on the messages sent by xxxhughs and Darth Vader are minutes apart and the IP addresses are identical not to mention the obvious fact that all of this mail is from Yahoo. There are a few other names that he uses also. If you are wondering why I noted to pay attention to certain sentences I will tell you. Look how he uses the name sonny frequently. now read below. this is a post off of WALT JR's moderated board See the last sentence? Thanks to another cm for pointing this out.

To IP 166.***.***.*** Thursday, 30-Nov-00 15:54:11
Message:
Just saw your attempt to see if I switched the Moderation of the board. Nice try little one. Again, My challenge still stands. Why don't you find something more contructive to do with your time like a paper route maybe. Or maybe help your mom around the house, I'm sure she would appreciate it. Anyway, this message board is for big kids so why don't you hang out over in Yahoo for kids. I'm sure they're more to your age group or mentality at any rate.
Go play now sonny.
Walt Jr



This is the message my friend got from Walt Jr. I don't know if it is a defensive email or a desperate one. In other words I don't know if he is trying to throw blame from himself or he is just totally at his wits end because of this person. Concious Pilot is Alonzo. I never told him who I was dealing with when I emailed Walt Jr So he in fact does talk to Alonzo.

Subj: Re: hello alonzo........Well, well, The Concious pilot was right. Date: 11/30/00 10:26:16 PM Central Standard Time From: walt_jr_1901@yahoo.com (Walt Disney jr.) To: xxx@aol.com

xxx@aol.com wrote:

If you didn't use the word sonny I may have never have been sure.

And just what are you so sure of?

For your information "sonny", A fellow Castmember who resides in Pennsylvania and whose Identity I have promised to protect led me to you with an E-mail. He told me that he had been corrosponding with you and he believed you were the one who likes to spam my board with four letter expletives. He E-mailed me copies of your corrospondence with him and I decided to find a way to earth you out by using his Tone and key words that you might have recognized to draw you out. And you did. You took the bait, line and nearly the pole.

I'm glad to know now who is behind the stupidity. And while I'm not too happy with the hijinks from this pilot fellow, I find your post's to be more damaging, hurtful and in need of deletion. Miramax language will not be tolerated.

Personally, I really don't care what you think of me or my board and I could care even less if you don't believe who I am or am not for that matter. Be warned, if you ever come onto my board again, I will not hesitate to report you to Inside the web and I will find your work location and report you to your superiors at Disney.

I hope this concludes our relationship as Castmembers.

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and the one emailed back. I know this to be true. This cm is not posting on Walt's board. This cm has not been corresponding with anyone but Alonzo Hawk under his other email addresses. If Walt Jr contacted inside the web, which I doubt he would, he would not find my friend on the other end.

Subj: Re: hello alonzo........Well, well, The Concious pilot was wrong Date: 11/30/00 11:21:40 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@aol.com To: walt_jr_1901@yahoo.com

I hate to tell you I never posted a thing on your board. I am now working with Nikki and three other cms to stop this moron. NONE of us are anywhere near your board, honest, you can take my word as a gentleman. Nikki even tried to contact you explaining what we were doing. We can't even be sure who to trust and I am not to sure you are one of them as I am sure I am not one to you. We want him stopped as much as you do. Pilot claimed to work in fashion square mall and work two days in WDW how can that be if he is in PA? You want to work with us? that's fine we could use the help.



Without prejudice: I hope Walt Jr is not responsible nor connected in any way with this person, or even is this person. According to Alonzo they email each other frequently. I have not nor has the cms who are helping me received any response as of now from Walt Jr but got this one today in my email from Alonzo. It is in response to the email you can read on the message board about his being banned so please understand if I need to turn my board into a moderated forum. (He already has three names that are banned) This guy is not going away.

Subj: Re: Your message board Date: 12/1/00 3:41:12 PM Central Standard Time From: xxx@hotmail.com (Alonzo Hawk) To: Glttrdst@aol.com

Yes Nicky, I can come back as anyone. Have you checked the IP addresses for Neverneverland, nick fury, or some of your other posters?

Who am I Nikki.

I am the silent Knight comming to save the world from the money stealers at Disney who have you all under a spell.

Wake up you Zombies

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My friend received this email from Walt Jr. I do want to believe him. He emailed back with the following email:

Subj: Walt Jr. Date: 12/2/00 1:33:02 AM Central Standard Time From: walt_jr_1901@yahoo.com (Walt Disney jr.) To: xxx@aol.com

I don't care who this Pilot person is personally. He tells me he is only posting on nikki's board the way he does because she deleted a prior post some months ago. I personally don't agree with his/her antics but I do not believe this is the same person who is comming onto my board and spamming it with expletive material.

If you haven't seen it in awhile, my board has become a playground for very foul language and the person who is responsible has even brought other posters into it by replying to there messages with F*** this and Go F*** yourself. This makes me very angry because his/her beef is with me, not the other posters on the board. I will not allow this person to intimadate others who come to the board to relieve stress and get things off their chest. Freedom of speech does not mean Freedom to intimadate.

I personally don't care if people pose as multiple personalities. If they have something to say and they want to make it seem like the whole world is with them, so be it.

As for the IP Address's, there is a set bunch of protocall #'s that define a certain type of computeror network of computers. Most home PC's have identifying sets of numbers that can be traced to a certain maufacturer but part of the trouble is that the last set of #'s tend to change with each new log in session. In reality there is a 1 in a million chance that you can really nail someone with an IP Address. Even mine changes slightly every time I log on. I generally know my first three set of numbers and have seen the same set on many other message boards that also coose to display them, it however does not mean it was me posting. The reason I choose not to show them is because, with the type of board I moderate, there is a general fear amongst Castmembers that Home Base is watching them and knowing who is who. Not revealing the IP is just a way to make a little more comfortable to post there messages.

At any rate, I just want the person who keeps attacking the board to stop the crap. If it was not you, I apologize for the error in judgement.

Walt Jr.

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