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MAP OF IRELAND - North from Dublin (Large file, long load time)MAP OF IRELAND - South from Dublin
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THE MILESIAN GENEALOGIES: Extracts from O'Hart's "Irish Pedigrees" *
Trace the Traynors and other surnames, back through history.
(From Milesius of Gaul, up to 1897).
GENFORUM-TRAYNOR: Messages from other Traynors, Treanors, Trainors.
ANNALS of THE FOUR MASTERS: (The Annals of The Kingdom of Ireland),
Completed in 1636 at the Convent of Donegal, by the chief author, Michael O'Clery.
You can read or download these vols. at the Cork College's electronic books section;
ANNALS of ULSTER: Also at the Cork College site. 431 A.D. to 1588 A.D.
ANCIENT Irish names and modern translations:
HUGUENOT names in Ireland and Great Britain:
Surnames of exiled French Huguenots. (circa 1712)
ADVENTURERS for land in Ireland.
Surnames of those who helped finance Cromwell's army, in exchange for
confiscated Irish land. (circa 1653)
BING.COM -- Shows many small townlands in Ireland:
TRAINOR, TRENOR, etc.
Genealogy information on our surnames, which had their origin in county Meath, Ireland.The ancient Irish name of MacThreinfir (or various other spellings) = "son of Treanfear". It is an Ulster name, and it branches off the Madden pedigree, in the Milesian line of Heremon, one of the sons of Milesius of Gaul. See the Madden pedigree at the Milesian Genealogies link above.Variations of the name; M'Crenir, M'Kreaner, MacCreanor, MacCranor, MacCrainor, Treanor, Trenor, Trayner, Trainor, Traynor, Tranor --- "An Irish personal name, meaning 'champion', literally, 'strong-man'. A well-known Ulster surname." From a book of Irish surnames; by Woulfe.O'Kane says some Trainors were Scottish and some English. I don't know
that I believe the English or Scottish origins. The Irish went to England
and Scotland way back in time, probably long efore the Romans were there.
Even England's Royal family has some Irish roots.
In a book "Irish Genealogy: A Record Finder" edited by Donel F Begly
(He used to work at the GenealogyDept in Dublin), it says in 1890 there were
only 77 "Traynors" in Ireland. 35 spelled Traynor, 28 Treanor, 12 Trainor.
The spelling was mainly Traynor in Dublin, Treanor and Trainor in Antrim,
Armagh, Monaghan and Tyrone.
In the 2001 phonebook of Dublin county alone, there were 140 Traynors,
4 Trainers, 9 Trainors, and 42 Treanors. No Trenors.
A good number of Irish Armstrongs are of Gaelic Irish extraction. Some
of the Irish McCLAVEs, LAVERTYs, LAVERYs of Co Antrim and TRAYNORs,
TRAINORS of Tyrone and Monaghan, had their names anglicised or mis-
translated by the English to Armstrong due to the Irish "trean" for strong
in the Irish name, and some of them went by that name when moving into the
English "Pale" as it was at one time a crime to use an Irish name in the
Pale. (See "The English Pale" below)
Ancestors of the Armstrongs were mainly settlers from Scotland. Mostly
they settled in county Fermanagh during the "Plantation" period of the
1600s. Most of them in the adjoining county of Monaghan settled in the
north and central part of that county.
THE ENGLISH PALE
Some of the English were becoming too "Irish". 200 years after the
English invasion many of them could no longer read English, so......
A statute of 1366 in Ireland provided that;
"Every Englishman do use the English language, and be named by
an English name, leaving off entirely the manner of naming
used by the Irish"................................. and in 1465 a
law was passed enacting "that every Irishman that dwells betwixt
or amongst Englishmen in the county of Dublin, Myeth (Meath),
Vriell (Oriel,Louth) and Kildare . . . shall take to him an
English Surname of one town as Sutton, Chester, Trym, Skryne, Corke,
Kinsale; or colour, as white, blacke, browne; or arte or science,
as smith or carpenter; or office, as cooke, butler . . ."
The area mentioned, was known as the "Pale". Pale = fence.
It was first named about the beginning of the 14th cent.
Whence came the expression; "Beyond the Pale".
It meant outside the protection of the English areas. If you ventured
out from there you might be set upon by those "savage" Irishmen.
English authority could not be enforced where there were no troops.
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Why do we see various spellings of Irish names?
In the first place, there was often more than one spelling of the names in the Irish language. Then the Irish names were translated to English, phonetically, or by meaning, or by using an English name that was similar. Then there were variations in the translated spellings.
If you are confused because there are two or three variations of your name, then look at these variations of the Irish name of O'h-Uallachain; uallach, ("proud, haughty, merry, supple, vain"), uallchan, ("a coxcomb, a fop").
MacUallachain, MacCuolahan, O'Holohan, Colaghan, Coolacan,
Collaghan, Halahan, Halegan, Halligan, Holahan, Holhane, Holhgane,
Holighan, Holland, Holligan, Hoolaghan, Hoolaghane, Hoolahan,
Houlaghan, Houlaghane, Houlahan, Howlegan, Howlan, Hulegan,
Huolaghane, Olehan, Oulahan, Oullaghan, Oullahan, Woolahan, and
Merrie, Merry, FitzMerry, Mac-Merry, Nolan (of Mayo), Noland (in
England), Proud, Proude, Soople, Suple, Supple, Vain, Vane,
Whelton, and Wilton.
Here's just one example;
A small World! I met one Traynor living only a mile from me here, in northern California, whose ancestors lived but 6 miles from mine in Ireland. He told me his family's surname used to be TREINER, but was changed to TRAYNOR because;
"It was always being misspelled that way over here." (In the United States).
(Ed; This is the only item I have found that mentions a chief of the Threinfir tribe)
The McKenna connection
Dear Sir, I have spent all this day travelling through the Parish of Errigal-Treugh and conversing with the McKennas. If there was a McKenna now, he could call a numerous band of his name to the field. They are amazingly numerous. I went yesterday to see the old Church of Errigal. It is full of the head stones of McKennas, all which except the very modern ones exhibit the arms of the family, exactly corresponding with those on an old head stone in the church yard of Maghera namely, a deer with branching horns; a man on horseback with three or four dogs, in full chase. Tradition says that McKenna lived originally in Meath but that he and a party of his people followed (chased) a deer from some part of Meath until they killed it in the Townland of Liskenna in the Barony of Treugh which derives its name from that circumstance. After killing the deer he remained for some time with a chief of the name (they think) of Trener who lived near the old Church of Errigal and during his visit with this ancient Chief of Treugh he fell in love with his daughter and married her, and hearing that another branch of his family had seized 32 upon the Government of his territory in Meath, he never returned home, but lived with his father-in-law during the remainder of his days. This was in the eighth century. In course of time his posterity became so numerous in Treugh (as indeed they do wherever they send forth a swarm) that they eclipsed the clan of the ancient chief, and set up a chief of their own name, and to commemorate the manner of their first coming in the country, they adopted the armorial bearings which appear upon all their old tombs.
John O'Donovan's Letters for the Ordinance Survey - May 31st 1835 (copies from The Royal Irish Academy, March 1998)
The following are the oldest inscriptions at Errigal-Treugh:-
"Pr. Tullius Kena
jacet in hoc tumulo,
qui obijt 3 Decembris Anno 1698."
"Hic quoque tumulatae sunt reliquiae
Revd. Tullii McKenna
nuper pastoris de Errigal
qui obiit 27 mo die Octobris 1764 aetatis 56."
"Pater Patricius Trener
me fecit sibe et suis,
qui obiit 1 Novembris 1711."
"Hic Jacet Johannes Tréner
Vicarious de Iregal
qui obiit tertio die Novembris Anno 1714."
Next to the Treners and McKennas, the most numerous families interred in the old Church of Errigal are:- 1. Conolly. 2. McKaghey,
among whom the Christian name Ardel (Ardghal) appears. 3. Conlan, with a curious coat of arm. 4. Slevin 5. McCambel (Mac Cathmhaoil).
6. McElmeel Mac Geiolla Mhaoll) in crowds. 7. Mac Avicar (Aviker). 8 .Mac Geough.
I send you the Name Books of Errigal Trough, with the names decided. Your obedient humble servant, John O' Donovan.*
------------------------------- End --------------------------------------
* Ed.: I believe this is the John O'Donovan, Dublin lawyer, who translated the "Annals of The Four Masters" around 1848.
The "Annals" can be viewed at, or downloaded from, the Cork College web site;
ANNALS of THE FOUR MASTERS
Truagh (Trough, Treugh) is the northern-most barony of county Monaghan, and it touches the borders of the counties of Fermanagh, Tyrone, and Armagh.
Ed: Hard to believe that someone would chase a deer for 50 miles! Maybe he just heard there were pretty women in Monaghan?
THE PENAL LAWS
THE POPERY CODE
After the defeat of the Catholic King, James the II, by William of Orange at the Battle of the Boyne in 169O, the Irish Parliament, which was entirely Protestant, enacted laws to make sure that the Catholic majority would never again endanger the Prostestant Ascendancy. These anti-Catholic laws were designed "to prevent the further growth of Popery."
These laws did not come from Parliament at Westminster, but from the Irish House of Commons, who were afraid Westminster would dilute them, as they were contrary to the terms of surrender granted to the followers of King James II.
Those articles promised Catholics could exercise their own religion. The Penal Laws were to destroy the last remnants of the Catholic landed gentry.
This is an abstract from the Bill of 1704:
"Wheras it is notoriously known that the late rebellions in this kingdom have been contrived, promoted and carried on by Popish archbishops, bishops, Jesuits and other ecclesiastical persons of the Romish clergy, and forasmuch as the peace and publick safety of the kingdom is in danger, by the great number of the said archbishops which, not only endeavor to withdraw His Majesty's subjects from their obedience, but do daily stir up and move sedition and rebellion...
"Saint Patrick's Day we'll no more keep,
No Catholic may sit in the Irish Parliament.
No Catholic may be a solicitor, game-keeper or constable.
No Catholic may possess a horse of greater value than L.5.
Any Protestant offering that sum can take possession of the hunter or carriage horse of a Roman Catholic neighbour.
No Catholic may attend a university, keep a school, or send his children to be educated abroad.
L.10 reward is offered for the discovery of a Roman Catholic schoolmaster.
No Catholic may buy land or receive it as a gift from a Protestant.
No Catholic may bequeath his estate as a whole, but must divide it among all his sons, unless one of those sons become Protestant, where he will inherit the whole estate.
No Catholic may be the guardian of a child. The orphan children of Catholics must be brought up as Protestants."
his colours can't be seen,
for there's a bloody law agin',
the wearin' o' the green."
THE IRISH HOUSE OF COMMONS; In 1797
THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE
------------------------------------------------------------------The following were the Three Hundred Members of Parliament, who, in
1797, represented Ireland in the Irish House of Commons, for a County,
or City, or Manor, or Town,* or Borough, or University:Speaker: The Right Hon. John Foster Agnew, Edw. Jones Chetwood, Jonathan Alcock, Henry Chinnery, Broderick Alexander, Henry Clements, Visct. Annesley, Hon. Richard Coddington, Nicholas Archdall, Mervyn Cole, Lord Visct. ------- Richard Conolly, Rt. Hon. Thos. Bagwell, John Cooke, Edward Ball, John Cooper, Joshua Edwd. Barrington, Jonah Coote, Eyre Barton, Thomas ------- Chas. Henry Beresford, Rt. Hon. J. Cope, Henry ------- John Claud Copinger, Maurice ------- Marcus Cornwall, Robert Blake, Joseph Henry Corry, Edward Blakeney, Theophilus ------- Rt. Hon. Isaac ------- William Cotter, Sir Jas. Laur. Blackwood, James Step. ------- Rogerson Blackwood, Sir John Cradock, Francis Blaguiere, James Creighton, Lord Visct. ---- Rt. Hon. Sir J., K.B. ------- Hon. Abraham Bligh, Thomas Crofton, Sir Edwd. Bond, Sir James Cromie, Sir Michael Boyle, Lord Viscount Crosbie, John Gustavas Brooke, Hen. Vaugh ------- Wm. Arthur Browne, Arthur Cuffe, Rt. Hon. James ------- Right Hon. Denis Curran, John Philpot ------- William Dalrymple, William Brownlow, William Daly, Denis Bowes Bunbury, George ------- Peter Burdett, George Day, Robert Burgh, Thomas Dawson, Arthur Burton, Hon. Fr. Nat. Desvoeux, Sir Chas. ------- William Dickson, Thomas Butler, Humphry Doyle, John Butler, Hon. James Duigenan, Patrick ------- Sir Richard Dunbar, George Bury, Charles William Dunn, John Bushe, Chas. Kendal Duquery, Henry Carew, Robt. Shapland Egan, John Cairncross, Hugh Elliot, William Carroll, Ephraim Eustace, Charles Castlereagh, Visct. Falkiner, Fred. John Cavendish, Hon. George Fetherstone, Sir Thos. ------- Sir Henry Finlay, John ------- Hon. Richard Chatterton, James ============================================================ Fitzgerald, Lord Chas. Keatinge, Maur. Bag. St. Leger ------- Lord Edwd. Keller, William ------- Lord Henry Kerr, David ------- Edward King, Rt. Hon. Henry ------- Maurice ------- Robert Fitzgerald, Rt. Hon. J. Kingsborougb, Lord Visct. Fletcher, William Knox, Hon. George Flood, Sir Frederick ------- Hon. Thomas ------- Warden Langrishe, Sir Hercules Fortescue, Hon. W. C. Latouche, David Forward, Rt. Hon. Wm. ------- John Foster, Rt. Hon. John; ------- Peter The Speaker ------- Robert ------- Hon. Thos. Henry ------- Rt. Hon. David Fox, Luke Lecky, William Freke, Sir John Leigh, Francis French, Arthur ------- Robert Gahan, Daniel Leighton, Sir Thomas Godfrey, Sir Wm. Leslie, Chas. Powel Gorges, Hamilton Lloyd, John Grace, Richard Loftus, Visct. Grattan, Rt. Hon. Hen. ------- William Graydon, Robert Longfield, John Hamilton, Alex. ------- Captain John Hamilton, Hon. Arthur Cole ------- Mountifort ------- SackviUe Lowther, Gorges --- Sir John Stewart, Bart. Macartney, Sir John Handcock, William Macnamara, Francis Hardinge, Richd. Magenis, Richard Hardy, Francis ------- Rich. the elder Hare, William Mason, Rt. Hon. John Monck Harrison, Jones Massey, Eyre Hatton, George ------- Hon. John Herbert, Rich. Townsend Mathew, Hon. Fras. Hill, Sir George Fitz. May, Sir James Hoare, Bartholomew McClintock, John ------- Edward McDonnell, Charles ------- Sir Joseph Maxwell, Lord Visct. Hobart Rt. Hon. Lord ------- John Hobson, John Meeke, William Holmes, Peter Metge, John Howard, Hon. Hugh Milton, Visct. ------- Hugh Monck, Chas. Stanley Hume, William ------- W. D. S. Hutchinson, Hon.Francis-Hely Montgomery, Alex. ------- Hon. John Hely ------- John Irvine, William ------- William Jephson, Rich. Mount. Moore, John Jocelyn, Lord Visct. ------- Hon. John ------- Hon. George ------- Stephen Johnson, Robert ------- Hon. William Jones, Rt. Hon. Theo. Morres, Abraham Kavanagh, Bryan ------- Rt. Hon. Lodge Keane, Jonn Musgrave,* Sir Rich. Kearney, James =========================================================== Nesbitt, Thomas Sneyd, Nathaniel Nevill, Richard Stanley, Edmond Newcomen, Sir W. G. Staples, John Newenham, Sir Edw. Stewart, Henry O'Brien, Sir Edward ------- James Ogle, Rt. Hon. George ------- John ------- William Meade ------- Sir Annesley O'Hara, Charles St. George, Sir Rich. Ormsby, Arthur Stradford, Hon. Ben. O'Neale ------- Chas. Mont ------- Hon. John Osborne, Charles Taylor, John ------- Sir Thomas ------- Hon. Robert Packenham, Hon. Thos. Tenison, Thomas Parnell, Rt.Hon.Sir John Tighe, Edward Parsons, Sir Laurence ------- William Pelham, R. H. Tho. Toler, John Pennefather, Richard Tottenham, Charles Pepper, Thomas ------- N. Loftus Pomeroy, Hon. Henry ------- Ponsonby Ponsonby, Cham. Brab. Townsend, John ------- George Tench, William Power Keatinge ------- George, jun. Trench, Richard ------- John Brab. Tydd, Sir John ------- Rt.Hon.Wm.Brab. Tyrone, Earl of ------- William Uniacke, James Preston, John ------- Robert ------- Joseph Vandeleur, Jno. Ormsby Prendergast, Thomas ------- Jn. Ormsby Price, Cromwell ------- Thos. Packenham Reilly, John Vereker, Charles Richardson, Willm. Verner, James Roche, Sir Boyle Vesey, Hon. John Rochfort, Hon. Robt. Waller, John ------- John Staunton Warburton, John Ross, Rt. Hon. Robt. Ward, Hon. Robert Rowley, Clotworthy Welch, Patrick ------- Hon.Clot.Taylor Wemys, James ------- William Wesley, Hon. Arthur Ruxton, Wm. Park Westby, Nicholas Sandford, George Wilson, Ezek. Davis ------- Hen. Moore Wolfe, Rt. Hon. Arthur Sankey, William ------- John Saunderson, Francis ------- John (2) Savage, Francis Wood, Henry Sherlock, William Woodward, B. Blake Skeffington, H. W. J. Wynne, Owen ------- Hon. Chich. ------ Robert ------- Hon. Henry Smith, W. Smyth, J. Prendergast -----Rt.Hon.Skeffington ------- William ------------------------------------------------------------------ * Town: The name of the Borough, City, Manor, Town, or University, which, each of the Irish Members of Parliament represented in the Irish House of Commons, may he seen in "The Irish Court Registry," for 1797. ** Musgrave; Author of "Musgrave's History of Irish Rebellions".
THE ANCIENT IRISH
CHIEFS AND CLANS
From "Irish Pedigrees", by John O'Hart *
An Irish Chief of 1798
Image courtesy of Haley & Steele, Boston
Although some names and places are spelled differently in parts
of this text, I took special care that they are as in the book.
Any errors will probably be those of the book's author, the
printer, or someone else. Although my scanner makes many
errors, my proof-reading is flawluss! 8 -) Enjoy....
MAP OF IRELAND - North of Dublin - (Large file, long download)
MAP OF IRELAND - South of Dublin
The Chief Irish Families of Munster:
II.-- TERRITORIES OF THE ANCIENT IRISH FAMILIES:
1. In Thomond, or the counties of Limerick and Clare:
2. In Desmond, or Cork and Kerry:
3. In Ormond and Desies, or Tipperary and Waterford:
III.-- THE PRINCIPAL FAMILIES OF ULSTER:
1. In Oriel, or the county Louth:
2. In Monaghan:
3. In Armagh:
4. In Fermanagh;
5. In Ulidia, or Down and Part of Antrim:
6. In Dalriada (in Ireland), or Part of Antrim and Derry:
7. In Tirowen, or Tyrone:
8. In Tirconnell, or Donegal:
9. In Brefney, or Cavan and Leitrim:
IV.-- ANCIENT MEATH
1. In the County Meath:
2. In Westmesth:
3. In Annaly, or Longford:
4. In Dublin, Kildare, and King's Counties;
1. In Hy-Kinsellagh and Cualan, or the counties of Wexford, Wicklow, Carlow,
and Part of Dublin:
1a. Notice of Hy-Kinselagh
2. In Ossory, Offaley, and Leix; or, Kilkenny, King's County and Queen's County:
1. In the counties of Mayo and Sligo:
2. In Roscommon and GaIway:
3. In Leitrim (See under "Brefney".)
The NEW SETTLERS and MODERN NOBILITY
Nobility: Baron, Earl, Lord, Marquis, Viscount.
(After the English invasion - 12th century)
AREAS and TERRITORIES:Annaly = Longford.
Brefney = Cavan and Leitrim.
Bregia = The great plain of Meath. Most of Meath and Dublin.
Dalriada = Parts of Antrim and Derry.
Desies = Waterford.
Desmond = Cork and Kerry.
Hy-C(K)inselagh and Cualan = Wexford, Wicklow, Carlow, and part of Dublin.
Orgiall = Tyrone, Derry, and Armagh.
Oriel = Louth. Was once a part of the Kingdom of Orgiall.
Ormond = Tipperary.
Ossory = Most of Kilkenny, small parts of Queen's and south Tipperary.
Teffia = A division of ancient Meath. Westmeath, parts of Longford and King's County.
Thomond = Limerick and Clare.
Tirconnell = Donegal.
Tirowen = Tyrone.
Ulidia = Down and large part of Antrim. Also called Dalaradia. The rest of Antrim was called Dalriada.
THE NEW SETTLERS IN LIMERICK AND CLARE
THE MODERN NOBILITY OF LIMERICK AND CLARE
THE NEW SETTLERS IN CORK AND KERRY
THE MODERN NOBILITY OF CORK AND KERRY
THE NEW SETTLERS IN TIPPERARY AND WATERFORD
THE MODERN NOBILITY OF TIPPERARY AND WATERFOBD
THE ANGLO-NORMAN FAMILIES AND MODERN NOBILITY IN LOUTH
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN MONAGHAN
THE NEW SETTLERS IN ARMAGH
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN ARMAGH
THE NEW SETTLERS IN FERMANAGH
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN FERMANAGH
THE NEW SETTLERS IN DOWN AND ANTRIM
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN DOWN AND ANTRIM
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN DALRIADA
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN TIR-OWEN
THE NEW SETTLERS IN TIRCONNELL
THE MODERN NOBILITY OF TIRCONNELL
THE MODERN NOBILITY OF BREFNEY
THE NEW SETTLERS IN MEATH
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN MEATH
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN WESTMEATH
THE MODERN NOBILITY OF LONGFORD
THE NEW SETTLERS IN DUBLIN AND KILDARE
THE MODERN NOBILITY OF DUBLIN AND KILDARE
THE NEW SETTLERS IN HY-KINSELAGH
THE MODERN NOBILITY OF HY-KINSELAGH
THE NEW SETTLERS IN OSSORY, OFFALEY, AND LEIX
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN OSSORY, OFFALEY, AND LEIX
THE NEW SETTLERS IN MAYO AND SLIGO
MODERN NOBILITY IN MAYO AND SLIGO
THE NEW SETTLERS IN GALWAY
THE MODERN NOBILITY IN GALWAY AND ROSCOMMON
* "Irish Pedigrees", by John O'Hart, two vols., Fifth edition, published in 1892 in Dublin,
re-printed by the Genealogical Publishing Co. in Baltimore in 1976. Library of Congress,
United States; CS483.05 1976 929'1'09415 76-12097.
A CDROM disk of these two vols. can be obtained from; www.ajmorris.com/roots
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