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ISLAM IN SCIENCE/BIBLE/HISTORY:
Friday, 23 September 2005

Topic: 6: HISTORY

HISTORY: (Allah knows best)

Think about it: Black Death-plague arrived after crusades to Europe in trade-ship through Venetsia, that prospered because of trade from crusades. Andalusia brought renaissance, and after expulsion of Muslims from Spain it produced hundred year wars with protestants and Catholics by reformation of faith. Napoleon got to power because of his former conquest of Egypt, even though he lost to Turks, because he knew how to speak. World Wars began because of colonial-invasions, and rivalry about it, from Austria-Hungary colony of Muslim-Sarajevo. Russia invading and oppressing Muslims in Central-Asia came communist, after Muslims allied with Bolsheviks after they promised Muslims autonomic republics. Finland had opportunity to conquer St.Petersburg in 1919 when Bolsheviks were weak (Lenin himself said that if Finland had intervene even a bit, Bolsheviks would have lost a war) and former servant of tsars Mannerheim were eager to do that after civil war between red-white in Finland, but opposition of war in Finland won. Without communism may not have been Hitler in power (fear of communism was big issue), but Muslim-countries (and others) would still be under colonization, also Central Asian Muslim-countries by Russia, who knows if there would be any Muslims left now (communists had church as target, not Muslims).

8:30 "Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah. "

Koran is amazing even as a book of history. For example name of "Pharaoh" (as in the Bible) is corrected in Koran (hundreds of years later) as Fir'aun, and archaeologies have founded out that his name really were that. Not only that, but Koran says about drowned Pharaoh:

10:92 "So this day We shall deliver your (dead) body (out from the sea), that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! But verily, many among mankind are heedless of our signs!"
This pharaoh were found 1898, and his body had no signs of being long time in water.

5:14 "From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: Therefore We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done ."

After bloody history of past Roman Europe until WWII, Christians in western countries and in Africa have took this curse to be well proved, and Africans have even continued wars after their independence. 5:13 informs that Jews have been cursed by Allah, and this curse is easy to see in history, mostly executed by people of "Christians" (as majority from these people), and they are also said to have "change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them", and changes in their writings are almost legendary (proved by for example recently found Qumran scrolls, where in Deut.32:8 is said that God has provided nations "according to number of sons of God", that Jews were not only ones to receive prophets as they and Christians claim, questioning their whole faith. Before this discovery this part said "provided for each nation own god", which is far away from original meaning).

8:73 "The unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, (protect each other), there would be corruption and oppression on earth, and great mischief."

Although this does not deny completely that unbelievers could protect Muslims, in history those moments are rare (really not majority from "unbelievers" or Muslims to be "protectors/protected"): Germany tried to protect itself in first World War by alliance with Ottoman Empire (now Turkey), and Croatians protect themselves against Serbs by alliance with Bosnian Muslims. This might be also mentioning only for Mohammed and Muslims at his times, as all allied against him. Koran is at the same time revelation partly for people (and Mohammed especially) of that time, also scientifically correct for people until this day, and all between. All of Koran is not mainly for people of this time, as some advices were given only concerning situation of that time (as for example fighting against Arab-pagans), but it still considers us also through knowing and understanding history.

34:15-16 ?There was, for Saba, aforetime, a Sign in their home-land - two Gardens to the right and to the left. "Eat of the Sustenance (provided) by your Lord, and be grateful to Him: a territory fair and happy, and a Lord Oft-Forgiving! But they turned away (from Allah), and We sent against them the flood (released) from the dams, and We converted their two garden (rows) into "gardens" producing bitter fruit, and tamarisks, and some few (stunted) lote-trees.?

Also from cities destroyed there is interesting mentionings, it is possible that in Koran is described "plenteous garden" that located in Saabah (now Yemen), which had dam that provided living for over 30 000 people until dam collapsed at time of birth of prophet Mohammed (around 570 AC). On that area sabians main god (worshipped as only god by some) were moon-god, that had own giant temple build by c.a. 1200 BC.

It is also easy to see how Christianity has served Islam. It has made Islam much more closer religion in history, belief systems and theology for hundreds of millions of people (and for Muslims eventually to move live among them), compared to what would have been situation otherwise in ruler-gods Europe, Africa and America. Some say that Christianity stopped Islam from Europe and in these other now Christian areas, but in fact even in Africa most pagans did not accept Islam, and pagan-Rome was greatest world power, and if Christianity would not have broken Rome with arguments about balance of power between rulers and church into two parts, into East- and West-Rome, Rome could still control Middle-East too.

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Posted by moon2/koran at 3:47 PM EEST
Updated: Friday, 7 October 2005 1:21 PM EEST
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