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ISLAM IN SCIENCE/BIBLE/HISTORY:
Friday, 23 September 2005

Topic: I1: WATERS/ANIMALS/MATH
BODIES OF WATER: (Allah knows best)

55:19-20 "He has let free the two seas (/bodies of water) meeting together"
25:53 "It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition (that is not to be passed) (for water)."

World as a whole has two kind of waters, salt water in oceans and sweet water fed by rain.

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When those meet (f.ex. at end of rivers Yangtse-Kiang, Amazon, Mississippi, Nile) they will not mix in amount of salt (even in tidal rivers with sea-water coming several kilometers up their estuaries at high tide, or fresh water of Amazon several kilometers from the coast), but are kept always (even by gravity) apart and distinct (even in difference of species of both). Also (even little) different kind of seas have this border, partition, where they meet with different amount of salt (like Atlantic Ocean and Mediterranean Ocean in Gibraltar Straits, or in Red Sea and Indian Ocean, and in Baltic Sea) and have unique species of animals (and stability in amount of salt).

24:40 "Or (the unbelievers' state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with waves (/layers/billow) topped by waves (/layers/billow), topped by (dark) clouds: depths of (layers of) darkness, one above another: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! For any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light!"
13:16 "..Are the blind equal with those who see? Or the depths of darkness equal with light?.."

Darkness of seas is progressive, you have to go very deep to notice reflection of light, but in depth of 200 meters is almost total darkness. This is because different layers (by temperature, current and salt) of waves locate on certain depths (without mixing, above another), reflecting light with different way each. Even layer of clouds above waves reflect light increasing darkness, to know this (especially on desert without much clouds) you had to know that light is in form of rays, particles, which can reflect. And did Bedouin from desert dive into ocean 200 meters deep? He did not know how to read, did he know how to swim? Did he ever went to beach from Arabian inlands even?

13:17 "He sends down water from the skies, and the channels flow, each according to its measure.."
39:21 "Seest thou not that Allah sends down rain from the sky, and leads it through springs in the earth?

From where could have Bedouin from desert know about cycle of water? How did he knew that rains create rivers and springs from the earth (with pressure from above), why he does not say that springs are created by water from underground/rivers/ocean?

31:27 "And if all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean (were ink), with seven oceans behind it to add to its (supply), yet would not the words of Allah be exhausted (in the writing): for Allah is Exalted in Power, full of Wisdom."

This part does not exclude other oceans, only mentions seven of them. It can also be romantic-like phrase maybe from worldview of people at that time, to get message through. Still we can notice seven larger bodies of water from oceans (word is same with sea), that are clearly limited by something. These are Pacific Ocean (Indonesia-America), Indian Ocean (southern Africa peninsula-Indonesia), Atlantic Ocean (America-Africa/Europe), Ice-Sea (Iceland/Greenland- Beringinstraits), Mediterranean Sea (Gibraltarstraits-Bosborstraits in Istanbul), Black Sea (Bosborstraits), and Baltic Sea (Copenhagen). Ocean around Antarctica is part of Indian-, Atlantic- or Pacific Oceans, depending which is north from location of part of it (because these are most biggest bodies of water, in south they do not need such straits to split them on different seas, only south-north line from southern capes of America, Africa and Australia). If Ice Sea is considered to be same sea with Atlantic-Ocean (because Iceland is not so clear border as beringinstraits is with Pacific Ocean and Ice Sea), then seventh sea would be Red Sea (different from Indian Ocean by straits between Africa and Yemen, highest salt-concentration from all seas). Caspian Sea is salt-lake, Persian Gulf is gulf (in Indian Ocean), and Caribbean Sea is not really clearly limited by straits from Atlantic Ocean, only with small islands (that way Ice Sea have to be counted as same sea with Atlantic).

ANIMALS: (Allah knows best)

16:66 "And verily in cattle there is A lesson for you. We give you to drink of what is inside their bodies, coming from a conjunction between the contents of the intestine and the blood, A milk pure and pleasant for those who drink it."

To understand the Qur'anic verse concerning the above concepts, it is important to know that chemical reactions occur in the intestines and that, from there, substances extracted from food pass into the blood stream via a complex system; sometimes by way of the liver, depending on their chemical nature. The blood transports them to all the organs of the body, among which are the milk-producing mammary glands. In simple terms, certain substances from the contents of the intestines enter into the vessels of the intestinal wall itself, and these substances are transported by the blood stream to the various organs.

39:6 "He created you (all) from a single person: then created, of like nature, his mate; and he sent down for you EIGHT head of cattle in pairs..."

In this ayat is told about eight kind of useful cattle-animals we have been given (if it does not inform how many animals were given to us to form basics of our breeding, which I doubt because it could then inform about 16 animals or 8 female and 8 male and not "heads", and we really can not be sure if this "sent down" would even mean that cattle has been brought here from other planets). One way to count them would be this:

1.Ox-animals (like cow or jacks), 2. Lamb and lamas, 3. Birds (like chicken, turkey or emus), 4. Camels (for milk), 5. Horses (for meat), 6. Fur-animals, 7.Deer-/reindeer-animals, 8. Pigs. Last, pigs, may not include here as Allah has not given for us permission to eat them (as neither dogs, both intelligent animals that should live free), instead of them could be fish, even though even raising fish in pools is called fish-farming.

Even camels and flies are mentioned as signs. 16:68-69 says about bees and their superior navigation skills, and about healing powers of honey, how it is good for health. Arabian horses were protected from mixing with other horse-breeds by order from prophet, and so they kept their special properties, like high amount of red blood-cells to help in strength, and prophet said that these horses have secrets in its belly and honor in their backs (fast Arabic conquest).

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MATHEMATICS: (Allah knows best)

Let us end with mathematic codes that can be found from Koran. Islam or Koran does not tell to look for those, but clearly can be seen that those are there and that it also confirms as one more evidence (after Muslims ability to memorize it) that Koran has not been chanced even by a one word:
As example when Allah says in Koran that some things are alike, like that similitude of Jesus is same to Adam (3:59), He confirms it by mentioning both names 25 times in Koran. They were equally important, both had no father and Adam did not (at least according to bible) have even mother (should that make him bigger than Jesus for Christians?). When Allah makes difference (for better and worst) He mentions another word once less, like in "Borrowing" (money) is mentioned 8 times and (taking too much of) "interest" only 7 times. This goes on. One great miracle is hints for distribution of water and land, Koran mentions about "land" 13 times and "sea" 32 times, combined 45 times: when calculated 32 out of 45 is 71.111% and 13 out of 45 is 28.889%, and those numbers are exact distribution of sea and land on earth. Here are some few other examples:

Life/Life after death:115/115 Angels/Satans:88/88
Living/Dead:145/145 Man/Woman:24/24
Test/Giving thanks to Allah:75/75 Useful/Harmful:50/50
Loudly/Publicly:16/16 Brains/Light:49/49
Month/Day:12/365 Magic/(Some) things leading astray:60/60

It is interesting also to get to know prophecies of prophet (puh), there you can find for example (from 72 signs of Judgment Day) descriptions how (some) man will become woman?s and (some) woman?s will become man (like transvestites), and other human biology, behavior and character related prophecies. You can find description about drunks who cause lots of destruction on roads, Arabs had to wander what it meant, when camel-driver is drunken camel still goes straight.

Some more wonderful scientific and mathematic miracles of Koran (like calculation about speed of light found in Koran) can be found for example from www.answering-christianity.com

Koran (in Arabic?s) is like singing, its Suras each have different melodies and rhythms (through Arabic words and their order/places in Koran, pronouncing and dialect, even by pauses ordered to certain places and breathing techniques), from which you can notice even melodies and rhythms of modern music. It truly is greatest song in the world, and even many non-Muslim musicians have noticed it with respect (f.ex. song of Tenacious-D, Tribute, could well be made of it).

Very interesting is also fact that although Mohammed clearly tried to bend Arabian pagans, Jews and Christians to accept Islam, he still never tried to adopt or go with their views and writings/teachings/interpreting. From Islam can not be found world views or beliefs of Arabs or Bible (like flood that covered "whole world" that from there are no signs), but it says it will correct mistakes of those. And for example parts concerning creation in Koran goes in right order conformed by science, as in the Bible everything goes in wrong order, light before stars, sun before sky (/heaven/space), birds before land-animals. In fact even that is miracle that in Koran Allah says to have created us from nothing...

4:82 "Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy. "

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Posted by moon2/koran at 3:42 PM EEST
Updated: Friday, 21 October 2005 1:04 PM EEST
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