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the kid brother collective started in may of 97 in flint, michigan by four guys with a lot of spare time. formed from the nucleus of two previous projects, spit and smatch, the collective deviated from former sounds to come up with what has been jokingly dubbed "community college rock" by locals.

after a summer of writing songs with the collective, bassist bill sirl left the group and long time friend chris everson hopped on. their first show opening for boy sets fire went off without a hitch, and from that point on the lineup was set.

a studio session was slated for that december, and after a week or so of sleeping in strange places, a seven song ep emerged and was self released. It documented the previous year's work, and in turn, clinched the "golden hanky award" according to the detroit band king for a day. a few small tours later the collective once again returned to the studio for a split seven inch with deep elm records' pride and joy, new york city's camber.

and now the release of "never trust yourself," a three song cd single put out once again by doom nibbler records, hit stores in january of 2000. recorded by long time engineer and friend, j faith, "never trust yourself" shows their growth from a young band with potential to a well rounded composition.

a full length is planned for mid summer of 2000, along with a few small tours and lots of root beer. as always in this business, things change very quickly, so keep in touch to know the latest news.

vince moreno-guitar
eric allen-drums, vocals
chris everson-bass
brandon trammell-vocals, guitar


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to talk or for info contact: vince or brandon to book a show contact: chris