
Are there any middle grounds?
And the Roles AOL has played.
I set out to educate myself on the Gorean lifestyle and with good reason. My Master has a Gorean background and many years ago I did as well. I came to find out there are many different levels to it. But my education has become difficult. There are so many contradictions it is hard for anyone to seriously learn. I also agree this is true with D/s relationships. Or any relationship that stems from any form of BDSM.I know I hear a lot of you saying Gorean isn't BDSM, well I can speak from my own experience and say yes it is, but that's my opinion. I have spent years educating when it came to BDSM and D/s relationships and always I have steered people away from AOL, again my opinion. I ignored my own advice this time and sat here reading every site there is about Gorean only to get more and more confused; as my Master can attest to with my always asking a million questions. I have learned some from my reading but not as much as I hoped and in the next few paragraphs I will try to explain this and all lifestyles of choice.
Years ago, yes BDSM goes back many many years... there were no computers, no chat rooms, no web. There was only that old invention books... ahhh remember those? If someone wished to learn they educated themselves by reading a book, enrolling in school, or asking for help from someone that could teach them what they wanted to know. That's the way I learned eons ago ::smile:: and that is why I guess I'm having a difficult time not only learning myself but trying to guide others as well.
I firmly believe what you live comes within you, deep within you. It's not something that can magically appear when you make a new screen name. It's a desire that runs deep. If you are a lesbian do you make a screen name and say poof I'm a lesbian? No you don't. Although, there are many that are so bored with their lives they do this. Sigh, how sad for them. This is where AOL has ruined just about every lifestyle there is. You take any given lifestyle be it BDSM, Gor, or Homosexuality and AOL has a field day. All of a sudden you have a new world called AOL where anyone can pretend to be anybody and poof your a Dom, Sub, Bi, Lesbian etc...
If you venture into the Gor rooms, yes there is a lot of serious RP going on there, but a lot has strayed from John Normans' books as well as the information I was speaking of that I have been reading. Same goes for D/s. If your crazy enough to venture into the shark infested D/s rooms, I say more times than not you will find someone who said, "Ahhhh Lord, so and so looks like a cool screen name. I bet I can hook a lot with that," other than finding someone who has gained the respect to carry such a name.
Sigh, such a world. AOL has become to be a scary place for anyone seriously wishing to learn.
The things I have learned...
Are there any middle grounds in the different lifestyles I've mentioned?
I'm here to tell you yes!Gorean is set from the 25 John Norman books published starting back in the 60's. They are quite interesting and also to some horrifying. It's sad to note though that his books have been pulled from the book stores as well as the reprinting of a few novels. You can find many quotes and Gor info on the web but there is no printing of novels to my knowledge.
Gor is its own planet on the other side of the sun. There are Masters, Mistresses, slaves and free people. Most of it sets the stage of harshness, a lot goes deeper than that. And there are a lot of people living Gorean r/t here on the real planet Earth. But to what extreme you might ask?
Well as in D/s there are different levels. My Master was in a r/t community where it was strict novel living, a lot of beatings, branding, etc... Now don't panic all, he got out of that because it didn't seem right to him.
::::smiles at her Master:::: He nor I are downing anyone if they choose to live this way. Everyone has a choice, even slaves. YES I said slaves!
Why can I say that? Because I am a Kajira, translated SLAVE. And I have many choices in our relationship. First was my choice to submit to him in the first place. My choice to accept his collar and so on.
Ok off my soap box and on to the matters at hand here.... People have taken the info from the novels and have created Gorean RP, like D&D just a LOT different. Many keep it just here online and either satisfy a need they have to explore a different life or plainly put... something to do.
Same goes for D/s onliners as well. They have their own realm here too. You see a lot of the same words being used as Kajira... Nadu... Paga... then you come across a word like Karta. This is in no book of John Norman. It is AOL fabricated. I'm still trying to understand that one.
Although a lot of these words are beautiful sounding they mean almost the same in D/s just a lot more fancier. Take Nadu for instance. It is a fancy sounding word but do you know how simple it is? Its a slave kneeling in a specific way as do D/s subs. Yep, that's it. In every piece of material I shared one contradicts the other and this goes for Gorean as well as D/s.
My first question was...
Are there any middle ground?Yes when you take 2 lifestyles that are as wonderful as Gorean and D/s and you are r/t. It is quite possible. When you stop going in rooms where they aren't serious and think, "OMG... am I really seeing what I'm seeing?" Nine times out of ten what you see in a room would never happen r/t. Sometimes it may, depends on the levels you are seeing. When you get to the heart of each lifestyle you will see the same exact things. Trust, honor, respect, devotion, love etc... You will see a Master and a slave, you will see two people that have the same desires and needs and they compliment each other in their own ways. You see a oneness, a completeness that no one can take from them.
Can you mix Gorean and D/s? Yes you can. It's all according to what each needs and desires deep within themselves.
Examples... you may love the words used and the specific positions and directions you live in Gorean but you may not like the harshness of the whippings, brandings etc... What do you do???
Simple, if there are 2 partners willing to open up and discuss what they like and don't like. It can be a wonderful relationship. It's all about communication. Take the things you both love on each side and work it together. If you both have basic training trust me, it isn't that hard to mix the two.
My Master and I live both Gorean and D/s. Would you call us a mixed breed? LOL maybe you would. But I call us two people discovering two lifestyles we love and working together mixing them and complimenting each other while doing so.
If you are sitting there as a D/s sub and have read things in Gorean that have perked your interest don't be afraid to discuss things with your Master. I'm sorry to say if you can't then you're in the wrong relationship. We don't live on the planet Gor!
Never feel that you can't be truly happy because you are afraid of what others will think. Live your life with choices... YOUR choices and be completely happy.
Are there middle grounds I ask again??
YES, and my Master and I are living proof!!!!Always play safe in whatever lifestyle you lead.
