Favorite Posts from Rebop's Forum 2

I've Learned That...

--posted by YO!

I've learned that you cannot make someone love you.
All you can do is be someone
who can be loved. The rest is up to them.

I've learned that no matter how much I care,
some people just won't care back.

I've learned that it takes years to build up trust,
and only seconds to destroy it.

I've learned that you can do something in an
instant that will give you a heartache for life.

I've learned that it's not what you have in life,
but who you have in your life that counts.

I've learned that you should always leave
loved ones with loving words. It may be
the last time you see them.

I've learned that we are responsible for
what we do, no matter how we feel.

I've learned that there are people who love you
dearly, but just don't know how to show it.

I've learned that true friendships continue
to grow, even over the longest distance.
The same goes for true love.

I've learned that just because someone
doesn't love you the way you want them to,
it doesn't mean they don't love you with all they have.

I've learned that no matter how good a friend
someone is, they're going to hurt you once in
a while and you must forgive them for that.

I've learned that just because two people argue, it
doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just
because they don't argue, it doesn't mean they do.

I've learned that we don't have to change
friends if we understand that friends change.

I've learned that you shouldn't be so eager to
find out a secret. It could change your life forever.

I've learned that there are so many
ways of falling and staying in love.

I've learned that no matter how many friends
you have, if you are their pillar, you will feel
lonely and lost at the times you need them most.

I've learned that love is not for me to keep,
but to pass on to the next person I see.
I've learned that everyday you should reach out
and touch someone. People love that human
touch - holding hands, a warm hug, or just a
friendly pat on the back.

I've learned that I have a lot to learn.

~ Author Unknown ~

Ten Husbands

--posted by rebopper

A lawyer married a woman who had previously divorced ten
On their wedding night, she told her new husband, "Please
be gentle; I'm still a virgin."
"What?" said the puzzled groom. "How can that be if
you've been married ten times?"

"Well, Husband #1 was a Sales Representative; he kept telling me how great it was going to be.
Husband #2 was in Software Services; he was never really sure how it was supposed to function, but he said he'd look
into it and get back to me.
Husband #3 was from Field Services; he said everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn't get the system up.
Husband #4 was in Telemarketing; even though he knew he had the order, he didn't know when he would be able to deliver.
Husband #5 was an Engineer; he understood the basic
process but wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method.
Husband #6 was from Finance and Administration; he thought
he knew how, but he wasn't sure whether it was his job or not.
Husband #7 was in Marketing; although he had a nice product, he was never sure how to position it.
Husband #8 was a psychiatrist; all he ever did was talk
about it.
Husband #9 was a gynecologist; all he did was look at it.
Husband#10 was a stamp collector; all he ever did was....
God! I miss him!!!
But now that I've married you, I'm really excited!"
"Good," said the lawyer, "but, why?"
"Duh! You're a lawyer. This time I know I'm gonna get

Thoughts about Education and Faith Based Funding


I have been catching up on the board and have not seen any
Tue Jan 30 13:39:20 2001

discussion on two new political topics. I would like to know what you folks think of the two new initiatives Bush has brought forth....

1. Education (specifically the voucher program)

2. Faith based funding

The voucher issue is very near and dear to me, as my sisters are educators. They are strongly opposed to vouchers, not because they fear for their jobs, not to support unions, not because they are tax payers, but because they care about children. They strongly believe this will help only a small fraction of kids and greatly harm the rest. The reason being that families that have some money will probably move their children to other schools and instead of having a mix of diverse kids in a school they will have only the "left behinds". Most likely good teachers and administrators will follow. Private Schools have rules and strong parental support, they will not tolerate kids who break the rules...so where will the rulebreakers go?

I personally have been to both. I know from experience that in private schools the behavior accepted in public school would never be tolerated. Private Schools have the luxury of kicking out students, public schools must take everyone the good and bad alike.Also everyone seems so worried about testing and qualification, who is judging the private schools?

We hear a lot about how poorly the public schools are doing. I can speak only about California...they are not so bad. It has a lot to do with the mix of students and the problems the public schools face. My niece who teaches 4th grade brings breakfast for her kids, most are not well cared for..most do not speak English and most have parents trying to scrape by who do not have time to spend with their children, parents who themselves have never been to school. How dare we judge these kids or their teachers the same. My niece goes to work at 5:30 am and leaves her classroom at 5pm...how many people would be willing to work for $28,000 a year to do this. Most of her college friends think she is an idiot for not getting a better paying job with better benefits and potential. The funny part is my niece loves to teach and should not feel demoralized by her career choice. I think it is time we start paying teachers more and treat them with respect. I admire them so much I know I could never have been a teacher, yet I was always paid far more and treated with far more respect.


Hi Hershey!! Don't even get me started about
Tue Jan 30 15:02:36 2001

the faith-based funding. Actually, I was going to post on this issue last night but was distracted with all the personal issues on the board.

I have grave concerns about the constitutionality of W's proposal, and my concerns are much in line with those of the ACLU. This proposal could, for the first time, allow organizations that are not required to comply with federal civil rights laws to receive federal funding. One example given by a spokesman for the ACLU: "Faith-based organizations that oppose interracial marriage, for example, could refuse to hire people in such a marriage and STILL receive federal money."

Another serious concern is that this proposal could put the government in the position of determining what is a legitimate religious organization. One example: by determining that an organization sponsored by the Jewish faith is eligible to receive federal funds and another sponsored by a small Christian sect is not, the government could be in the position of deciding that one set of beliefs is a religion and the other is not.

I truly believe this proposal is a basic violation of the separation of church and state. I am also extremely angry that W had so many hidden agendas during the campaign that are coming to light now that he is on the throne. It frightens me that he is pushing his fundementalist Christian beliefs down the American people's throats.


I too find this proposal especially
Tue Jan 30 16:06:43 2001

threatening to the separation of church and state for reasons you have given. Also like you, I deeply resent the way much of the electorate of this country was mesmerized by the cries of "unity" which characterized Dubya's campaign while his plans clearly were to take his power, brief as it may be, to the furthest extent he can toward goals far from universal! I said over and over that a public misguided enough to be lulled into voting for him would deserve the rude awakening they had coming. How long do you suppose we will have to wait before seeing or hearing more editorials in the most respected media daring to express opinions like our own?


I agree with you Hershey...
Tue Jan 30 14:34:47 2001

I don't even understand how the Republicans can justify making this a national issue when they are supposed to believe in local control. In an area like ours, school vouchers would be a joke as far as anyone using them without having just the right circumstances (read:money and location), because even our high school is a half hour drive from us. The amount of money that you would have to pay to make up the difference in tuition to go to even another public school (they would not accept a straight voucher because the districts that spend more $ on their schools would not want to allow people from other towns to pay less to add population to their schools), plus the transportation concerns would make that something that only a few well-off parents could afford anyway. So do the rich really need government to subsidize their child's education?

My daughter is planning to go into teaching, and although we think that's a wonderful choice, it's also sad that at the same time we are apprehensive about her future salary providing the funds she will need to pay off her college loans, which despite good scholarships will still add up to about $30,000 by the time she's done.


I not only agree with all jal and you
Tue Jan 30 15:57:24 2001

have written here, Hershey, but I have another concern as well I'd want to add. The way I understand what I've heard of the voucher plan, parents would have their choice of any school. Am I alone in foreseeing a rise in the creation of "commercial" and "politically based" schools eager to get their hands on the hearts and minds of the students, to say nothing of these available funds? Having attended both public and parochial schools myself, I know both can be valuable. But I strongly believe religious schools have as much to fear from government interference as have those who oppose their teachings being subsidized with taxes.


Tweety...you have indeed pointed out
Tue Jan 30 22:07:08 2001

another flaw...Isn't Rev Falwell that has an enourmous teachers college...He definitely has the right idea...wasnt it the Jesuits who say "give me a child until they are 7 and we will have them the rest of their lives"..something like. I am concerned about the religious overtones as well as the poor being left behind...who was who said "no child shall be left behind"...wink*


Have you seen the commercial?
Tue Jan 30 19:34:01 2001

About the father wanting the child to become a Doctor & the child wants to be a teacher because where would doctors be without teachers?

Seize the Moment

---posted by mel

I have a friend who lives by a three-word philosophy: Seize the moment. Just possibly, she may be the wisest woman on this planet. Too many people put off something that brings them joy just because they haven't thought about it, don't have it on their schedule, didn't know it
was coming or are too rigid to depart from their routine.
I got to thinking one day about all those women on the Titanic who passed up dessert at dinner that fateful night in an effort to cut back.

From then on, I've tried to be a little more flexible.
How many women out there will eat at home because their husband didn't suggest going out to dinner until after something had been thawed? Does the word "refrigeration" mean nothing to you?

How often have your kids dropped in to talk and sat in silence while you watched Jeopardy! on television?

I cannot count the times I called my sister and said, "How about going to lunch in a half hour?" She would gasp and stammer, "I can't. I have clothes on the line. My hair is dirty. I wish I had known yesterday, I had a late breakfast, It looks like rain." And my personal favorite: -"It's Monday". She died a few years ago. We never did have lunch together.

Because Americans cram so much into their lives, we tend to schedule our headaches. We live on a sparse diet of promises we make to ourselves when all the conditions are perfect:

We'll go back and visit the grandparents when we get Stevie toilet-trained.

We'll entertain-when we replace the living-room carpet.We'll go on a second honeymoon when we get two more kids out of college.

Life has a way of accelerating as we get older. The days get shorter, and the list of promises to ourselves gets longer. One morning, we awaken, and all we have to show for our lives is a litany of "I'm going to," "I plan on" and "Someday, when things are settled down a bit."
When anyone calls my 'seize the moment' friend, she is open to adventure and available for trips. She keeps an open mind on new ideas. Her enthusiasm
for life is contagious. You talk with her for five minutes, and you're ready to trade your bad feet for a pair of Rollerblades and skip an elevator for a bungee cord.

My lips have not touched ice cream in 10 years. I love ice cream. It's just that I might as well apply it directly to my hips with a spatula and eliminate the digestive process. The other day, I stopped the car and bought a triple-decker. If my car had hit an iceberg on the way home, I would have died happy.

Now...go on and have a nice day. Do something you WANT to ......not something on your SHOULD DO list.

If you were going to die soon and had only one phone call you could make, who would you call and what would you say? And why are you waiting?

Things a Dog Must Remember

1. The garbage collector is not stealing our stuff even though I haven't gotten the chance to rip the bag to shreds to see what was in it.

2. I do not need to suddenly stand straight up when I'm lying under the coffee table.

3. I will not roll my toys behind the fridge.

4. I must shake the rainwater out of my fur before I enter the house.

5. I will not eat the cat's food, before or after they eat it.

6. I will stop trying to find the few remaining pieces of clean carpet in the house when I am about to throw up or have an accident.

7. I will not throw up in the car.

8. I will not roll on dead seagulls, fish, crabs, etc.

9. I will not lick my human's face after eating animal dung.

10. 'Kitty box crunchies' are not food!

11. I will not eat any more socks and then redeposit them in the backyard or house depending on which end processes it first.

12. The diaper pail is not a cookie jar.

13. I will not play tug-of-war with Dad's underwear when he's on the toilet.

14. I will not chew my human's toothbrush and not tell him.

15. I will not chew crayons or pens, especially not the red ones, or my people will think I am hemorraging.

16. I will not take whatever I please and hide it under the bed so my people can have a scavenger hunt looking for it.

17. When in the car, I will not insist on having the window rolled down when it's raining outside.

18. We do not have a doorbell. I will not bark each time I hear one on TV.

19. I will not steal my Mom's underwear and dance all over the backyard with it.

20. The sofa is not a face towel. Neither are Mom and Dad's laps.

21. My head does not belong in the refrigerator.

22. I will not bite the officer's hand when he reaches in for Mom's driver's license and car registration.

23. I will not stand around Mom when she is cooking or when she is carrying her coffee, so she won't trip over me.

24. I will not beg for food at the supper table, and especially not eat someone's food if they leave it for just a moment.

25. I will not tear up the patio furniture, or put holes in the screen so I may jump in and lounge, just because I don't want to stay outside for more than two minutes.

26. I will not chase the cat and knock over breakable things in the process.

27. I will allow Mom and Dad some room and covers when we go to bed.

Top 20 Reasons Dogs Don't Use Computers

20. Can't stick their heads out of Windows '98.

19. Fetch command not available on all platforms.

18. Hard to read the monitor with your head cocked to one side.

17. Too difficult to "mark" every website they visit.

16. Can't help attacking the screen when they hear "You've Got Mail."

15. Fire hydrant icon simply frustrating.

14. Involuntary tail wagging is dead giveaway they're browsing www.pethouse.com instead of working.

13. Keep bruising noses trying to catch that MPEG frisbee.

12. Not at all fooled by Chuckwagon Screen Saver.

11. Still trying to come up with an "emoticon" that signifies tail-wagging.

10. Oh, but they WILL... with the introduction of the Microsoft Opposable Thumb.

9. Three words: Carpal Paw Syndrome

8. 'Cause dogs ain't GEEKS! Now, cats, on the other hand...

7. Barking in next cubical keeps activating YOUR voice recognition software.

6. SmellU-SmellMe(tm) still in beta test.

5. SIT and STAY were hard enough, GREP and AWK are out of the question!

4. Saliva-coated mouse gets mighty difficult to manuever.

3. Annoyed by lack of newsgroup, alt.pictures.master's.leg.

2. Butt-sniffing more direct and less deceiving than online chat rooms.

and the Number 1 Reason Dogs Don't Use Computers...

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Are Computers Male or Female?

Men think computers should be referred to as female because:

1) No one but the Creator understands their internal logic.

2) The language they use to communicate with other computers is incomprehensible to everyone else.

3) The message "Bad command or file name" is about as informative as "If you don't know why I'm mad at you, I'm certainly not going to tell you."

4) Your smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for later retrieval.

5) As soon as you've made a commitment to one, you find yourself spending half your paycheck on accesssories for it.

Women think computers should be referred to as male because:

1) They have a lot of data, but are still clueless.

2) They are supposed to help you solve problems, but half the time, they are the problem.

3) As soon as you commit to one, you realize that if you had waited a little longer, you could have obtained a better model.

4) In order to get their attention, you have to turn them on.

5) A big power surge will knock them out for the rest of the night.

Lean On Us

--posted by YO!

Lean on Us
(Adapted from song "Lean on Me" by Bill Withers)
(without his permission...

Sometimes in our lives we all have pain
We all have sorrow
But if we are wise
We know that there's always tomorrow

Lean on us, when you're not strong
And we'll be your friends
We'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
'Til we're gonna need
Somebody to lean on

Please swallow your pride
If we have things you need to borrow
For no one can fill those of your needs
That you don't let show

Lean on us, when you're not strong
And we'll be your friends
We'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
'Til we're gonna need
Somebody to lean on

If there is a load you have to bear
That you can't carry
We're right on this board
We'll share your load
If you just call us

So just call on us sister, when you need a hand
We all need somebody to lean on
We just might have a problem that you'd understand
We all need somebody to lean on

Lean on us when you're not strong
And we'll be your friends
We'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
Till we're gonna need
Somebody to lean on

Lean on us...

Quotations From Women About Women

--posted by rebopper

The hardest years in life are those between ten and seventy.
-Helen Hayes (at 73)

I refuse to think of them as chin hairs. I think of them as stray eyebrows.
-Janette Barber

Who ever thought up the word "Mammogram"? Every time I hear it, I think I'm supposed to put my breast in an envelope and send it to someone.
-Jan King

A few weeks after my surgery, I went out to play catch with my golden retriever. When I bent over to pick up the ball, my prosthesis fell out. The dog snatched it, and I found myself chasing him down the road yelling, "Hey, come back here with my breast!"
-Linda Ellerbee

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse.
-Lily Tomlin

You know the hardest thing about having cerebral palsy and being a woman? It's plucking your eyebrows. That's how I originally got pierced ears.
-Geri Jewell

A male gynecologist is like an auto mechanic who never owned a car.
-Carrie Snow

Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry with your girlfriends.
-Laurie Kuslansky

My second favorite household chore is ironing. My first being hitting my head on the top bunk bed until I faint.
-Erma Bombeck

Old age ain't no place for sissies.
- Bette Davis

A man's got to do what a man's got to do. A woman must do what he can't.
-Rhonda Hansome

The phrase "working mother" is redundant.
-Jane Sellman

Every time I close the door on reality it comes in through the windows.
-Jennifer Unlimited

Whatever women must do, they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.
-Charlotte Whitton

Thirty-five is when you finally get your head together and your body starts falling apart.
-Caryn Leschen

I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.
-Jennifer Unlimited

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.
-Catherine Aird

When I was young, I was put in a school for retarded kids for two years before they realized I actually had a hearing loss ... and they called ME slow!
-Kathy Buckley

Behind every successful woman ... is a substantial amount of coffee.
-Stephanie Piro

Behind every successful woman ... is a basket of dirty laundry.
-Sally Forth

From Annie Hall

ANNIE: Alvy, uh, let's face it. You know something--I don't think our relationship is working.

ALVY: I know. A relationship, I think, is like a shark, you know? It has to constantly move forward or it dies. And I think what we got on our hands is a dead shark.

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