This conversation is carried on well into the night as the candle is beginning to expire. The blind man now tells Rosenkreutz that there is more that the world needs to know. It is a subject of much importance and can be of great benefit. He tells him that Jesus of Nazareth is the Great Example of humanity and that at the Baptism in the Jordan, the Christ, Who had been descending through the spiritual worlds, incarnated into the body of Jesus of Nazareth. Shortly before the Baptism, Jesus of Nazareth had given up his EGO-I AM from this body before the Christ incarnated into it.

     The blind man begins to relate the two separate and distinctly different genealogies of the Matthew Gospel and the Luke Gospel. The genealogies of Jesus separate after King David between Solomon of the Matthew Gospel and Nathan of the Luke Gospel. He tells Rosenkreutz that there were at the same time two Jesus childs of different parents and from different lineage’s of King David. In the Matthew Gospel the genealogy descends from Abraham to King David who begets Solomon continuing to Joseph and finally to Jesus. The Luke Gospel is in reverse of the Matthew Gospel and traces the ascension of the genealogy of Jesus back to Nathan, the son of King David, and continues back to Abraham, then to Adam and finally to God. [Rudolf Steiner calls the Jesus of the Matthew Gospel the Solomon Jesus because this is where the separation in the genealogies is traced. Rudolf Steiner in turn calls the Jesus of the Luke Gospel the Nathan Jesus. The Jesus of the Matthew Gospel had several incarnations prior to this incarnation while the Jesus of the Luke Gospel ‘never’ had any previous incarnation.]

     The child of the Matthew Gospel was a highly developed human soul that had attained the wisdom and development that is to come to humanity in the far future. He was a great Sun Initiate such that he was trained and developed in the spiritual wisdom of what emanated from the sphere of the sun over many lifetimes. In Ancient Persia this individual was named Zarathustra as the name means: ‘radiant star’. After many incarnations he appears again as one of the Jesus childs (the Jesus child of the Matthew Gospel). The nativity scene of the Matthew Gospel relates the story of the three wise Kings of the east who followed this ‘star’ and worshipped him. They were three Initiates (and former followers of Zarathustra in prior incarnations) who had followed his ‘star’ descending down from the spiritual worlds (that is, in 'mystery’ language, the spiritual world is often referred to as “coming from the east") until his ‘star’ (also meaning his EGO-I AM) reincarnated on earth.

     The Luke Gospel not only traces a different genealogy from that of Matthew after King David, it also relates a different nativity scene to us. It tells us of simple shepherds who are told of the birth of Jesus by an angel of God. [Also, according to Rudolf Steiner, the ‘Heavenly host’ that shone upon the Jesus child of the Luke Gospel was the spiritual body of Buddha who radiated his impulses of love into this child which then filled the body of this Jesus child thereby making it a proper body that could later hold the incarnation of the Christ.]