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"If you take the time to read something as highly regarded by many people as the first four books of the New Testament in the Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, you will see that between them, even though they cover the same story and all of them agree on the overall premise, each one is different...and nobody complains about that."

DON JUAN MATUS: Real or Imagined? Paragraph 8 [1]


PART ONE OF TWO


EXAMPLES OF INCONSISTENCIES AND DISCREPANCIES (AND HOW THEY MIGHT BE RESOLVED) AS FOUND IN THE BIBLE AND THE RESURRECTION ACCOUNTS ATTRIBUTED TO MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, AND JOHN:


What time did the women visit the tomb?

Answer: Notice that John, the only one to mention a departure before dawn, is also the only one who mentions no women apart from Mary Magdalene. So Mary Magdalene left her home before dawn, as stated by John. She met up with the other women, (which is where the other three gospels take up the narrative), and the group went to the tomb just after dawn.


Who were the women?

Answer: All of the above. The writers were not obligated to mention every person present.

However, if we speculate that not all women made the second trip to the tomb (when they saw Jesus), we can give plausible reasons for the different lists:


What was their purpose?

Answer: Actually in Matthew they had already seen the tomb (27:61). So the purpose was to look at the tomb and bring spices. They may not have been aware of the spicing done by Joseph of Arimathea, or they may simply have wished to do a further "anointing" (Mark 16:1).


Was the tomb open when they arrived?

Answer: Yes. While Matthew describes the opening of the tomb, he does not say that the women witnessed it.


Who was at the tomb when they arrived?

Answer: Two angels. Two were present, but Matthew and Mark only mention the speaker. It is clear that the "men" in Mark and Luke were intended to be understood as angels, because they were dressed in a brilliant white and (more significantly) they had a message from God for the women.


Where were these messengers situated?

Answer: John is describing the second visit to the tomb (see John 20:2), while Matthew descibes what happened before the women arrive. So only Mark and Luke describe the women's first sight of the angels.

There are at least two possible resolutions of Mark and Luke: either the angels were initially seated and the women were not startled until they stood up; or some women saw them seated, while others did not notice them until they stood up.


What did the messenger(s) say?

Answer: All of what is reported in Matthew, Mark and Luke. (John 20:13 is describing the women's second visit to the tomb).


Did the women tell what happened?

Answer: Yes. Mark 16:8 only tells what happened initially.


When Mary returned from the tomb, did she know Jesus had been resurrected?

Answer: Unclear. Ignore Mark 16:10-11. Mark 16:9-20 is NOT part of the original gospel by Mark.

Matthew and Luke still have the women reporting the angels' message (that Jesus had risen). But, as Mark 16:8 says, the women were bewildered and did not initially tell anyone. And as Luke 24:11 says, their words sounded like nonsense. So what probably happened was that the women were both bewildered and excited, and perhaps all talking at once. [2]


PLEASE NOTE: FOOTNOTE [2] is an all important MUST READ!


So I see at least two possibilities:

  • Mary did know, but in the confusion John only heard part of the report, so that is all he mentions;
  • John only mentions Mary's report, while Matthew and Luke include the reports of the other women. Mary did not understand that Jesus had risen, while the others did. Since John only mentions Mary's report, he does not mention the resurrection. Matthew and Luke include the reports of all women, and so include the report of the resurrection.


    When did Mary first see Jesus?

    • Matthew: Before she returned to the disciples (28:9)
    • Mark: Before she returned to the disciples (16:9,10)
    • John: After she returned to the disciples (20:2,14)
    Answer: After. Mark 16:9-10 is not in the original gospel by Mark, and there is a gap between verses 8 and 9 of Matthew 28. During that gap, Mary returned to the disciples (as reported in John 20:2). Matthew 28:9 occured after the women gave the report then returned to the tomb, and so describes the same appearance as John 20:11-17.


    Could Jesus be touched after the resurrection?

    • Matthew: Yes (28:9)
    • John: No (20:17), Yes (20:27)
    Answer: Yes. John 20:17 is literally "stop touching me", so obviously he could be touched.


    After the women, to whom did Jesus first appear?

    • Matthew: Eleven disciples (28:16)
    • Mark: Two disciples in the country, later to eleven (16:12,14)
    • Luke: Two disciples in Emmaus, later to eleven (24:13,36)
    • John: Ten disciples (Judas and Thomas were absent) (20:19, 24)
    • Paul: First to Cephas (Peter), then to the twelve. (Twelve? Judas was dead). (I Corinthians 15:5)
    Answer: Peter, as stated by Paul and Luke. (Luke 24:34 indicates that this was before the two disciples walking to Emmaus). Matthew and John (and Mark) omit this appearance.

    (Oh and Paul does mean twelve: Judas was dead but his replacement Matthias was a witness to the resurrection, as stated in Acts 1:22).


    Where did Jesus first appear to the disciples?

    • Matthew: On a mountain in Galilee (60-100 miles away) (28:16-17)
    • Mark: To two in the country, to eleven "as they sat at meat" (16:12,14)
    • Luke: In Emmaus (about seven miles away) at evening, to the rest in a room in Jerusalem later that night. (24:31, 36)
    • John: In a room, at evening (20:19)
    Answer: In a room at Jerusalem, as reported by Luke and John (and Mark). Matthew 28:16-20 is a later appearance.


    Did the disciples believe the two men?

    • Mark: No (16:13)
    • Luke: Yes (24:34--it is the group speaking here, not the two)
    Answer: Yes. Mark 16:13 is not in the original gospel by Mark.


    What happened at the appearance?

    • Matthew: Disciples worshipped, some doubted, "Go preach." (28:17-20)
    • Mark: Jesus reprimanded them, said "Go preach" (16:14-19)
    • Luke: Christ incognito, vanishing act, materialized out of thin air, reprimand, supper (24:13-51)
    • John: Passed through solid door, disciples happy, Jesus blesses them, no reprimand (21:19-23)
    Answer: Both of what happened in Luke and John. Matthew describes a later appearance. Mark 16:14-19 is not in the original gospel by Mark.


    Did Jesus stay on earth for a while?

    • Mark: No (16:19) Compare 16:14 with John 20:19 to show that this was all done on Sunday
    • Luke: No (24:50-52) It all happened on Sunday
    • John: Yes, at least eight days (20:26, 21:1-22)
    • Acts: Yes, at least forty days (1:3)
    Answer: Yes. Acts 1:3 (which was also written by Luke) makes clear there was a time gap between the resurrection and the ascension. Nowhere in Luke 24 does it say it all happened on one day. Mark 16:19 is not in the original gospel by Mark.


    Where did the ascension take place?

    • Matthew: No ascension. Book ends on mountain in Galilee
    • Mark: In or near Jerusalem, after supper (16:19)
    • Luke: In Bethany, very close to Jerusalem, after supper (24:50-51)
    • John: No ascension
    • Paul: No ascension
    • Acts: Ascended from Mount of Olives (1:9-12)

    Answer: The Mount of Olives, which is near Bethany. Bethany was on the east side of the Mount of Olives, and both Mark 11:1 and Luke 19:29 indicate that the two were close together. Luke 24:50 can reasonably be translated "in the vicinity of Bethany" (as in the NIV) so that's no contradiction with Acts 1:12.

    Mark 16:19 does not mention a location but in any case it is not in the original gospel by Mark. Matthew and John do not mention the ascension but surely some sort of disappearance by Jesus is implied. Paul in fact does mention the ascension in Eph 4:8-10 and implies it in 1 Thess 1:10.





    NOW, HOW ABOUT EXAMPLES OF INCONSISTENCIES AND DISCREPANCIES AS RELATED TO CARLOS CASTANEDA AND HIS DON JUAN BOOKS?


    CASTANEDA:

      IN TEACHINGS (1968): A Friend (Bill) greeted (Don Juan), then immediately left (Castaneda) alone not even bothering to introduce the two of them.

      IN REALITY (1971): Was sitting with Bill. Bill got up and went to greet the man and forgot to introduce them.

      IN JOURNEY (1972): A friend had just put them in contact. He left the room and they (Don Juan and Castaneda) introduced themselves to each other.

      IN INFINITY (1998): Already knew about the mysterious old man who was a retired shaman. A strange anxiety suddenly possessed (Castaneda) that made him jump out of his seat and approach the old man, immediately beginning a long tirade.

    DON JUAN:

      IN TEACHINGS (1968): Was sitting in front of the window

      IN REALITY (1971): Had just walked in

      IN JOURNEY (1972): In the waiting room

      IN INFINITY (1998): Sitting on the bench by the corner

    FOR MORE INDEPTH COVERAGE REGARDING THE INTRODUCTION SCENES PLEASE SEE:

    CARLOS CASTANEDA, DON JUAN MATUS: The Introduction Scenes

    CARLOS CASTANEDA: Don Juan Matus and the Nogales Bus Station Meeting


    THE ABOVE ARE ONLY BUT A FEW TINY SELECTED EXAMPLES FROM CASTANEDA'S WORKS AS CITED BY VARIOUS CRITICS AS PROBLEMS. THERE ARE OTHERS IF ONE COMBS THROUGH ALL ELEVEN BOOKS --- BUT, FOR THE MOST PART, MOST CAN BE RESOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER NOT UNLIKE THE INCONSISTANCIES AS CITED ABOVE (AND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS) IN MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, AND JOHN. WHERE CASTANEDA REALLY GOES WRONG IS THE BOOKS PUBLISHED AFTER HIS FIRST THREE. THE FIRST THREE ADHERE MORE CLOSELY TO THE ACTUALITY OF IT ALL. THE REST ARE, WELL, JUST THE REST.


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    JESUS IN INDIA: PROS AND CONS


    BUDDHISM IN AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS



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