March 9, 2003
Word submitted for your discernment
PUT ON THE CLOAK OF HUMILITY
Today is the day of much torment and disagreement in the land. Many are going about in missions to put down those who are in leadership to promote that which they believe is of Me, but they are all wrong. They should be gathering together and praying for peace in Jerusalem and that repentance would fall on the hearts of the people. But instead they are tearing down and destroying that which needs to be built up and that is the wall of faith and trust and unity.
Below I have stated my reasons of why I judge this to be a false prophecy. Scripture tells us:
1 Corinthians 14:29: Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
The prophets are to speak two or e, either (a disjunctive particle used to differentiate mutually exclusive or substitutionary things), three. Other is allos, here plural, denoting numerical distinction of others of similar character. They are to judge diakrino, the verb form of the noun diakrisis (used in the phrase discerning of spirits in 1 Corinthians 12:10). Here it refers to discerning what is of the Holy Spirit.
Because the statement that: Word submitted for your discernment is made, I have responded to it. My comments are in between the single rules.
PUT ON THE CLOAK OF HUMILITY
Today is the day of much torment and disagreement in the land.
Many are going about in missions to put down those who are in leadership to promote that which they believe is of Me, but they are all wrong.
They should be gathering together and praying for peace in Jerusalem and that repentance would fall on the hearts of the people. But instead they are tearing down and destroying that which needs to be built up and that is the wall of faith and trust and unity.
For I have covered you with a cloak of humility through September 11 when I allowed the enemy to come through the hedge of protection because of the pridefulness and hardness of your own hearts.
I say to you this day to repent of your evil ways of rebellion and stubbornness.
Pick up the cloak of humility and follow Me. Lean not on your own understanding, but in all your ways acknowledge Me, and I will direct your paths.
Trust Me when I say to pray for your leaders for they need to know My precise plan of attack to come against the devils tool to destroy and pull up that which I have built.
But know that only good will come forth if you humble yourselves and seek My face as one and turn from your ways of pride, independence, and lust.
Look at the mountain and say be cast into the sea.
Look above at the weapons of warfare and decree no weapon formed against me shall prosper. Pray that the spirit of confusion will fall upon the enemy that their own plan to deceive others will cause their own destruction. What they had planned for your harm, I will turn for your good.
Note who is speaking:
1 Then Eliphaz the Temanite answered and said,
This is what Eliphaz the Temanite said:
28 Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.
The word decree is gazar. Strongs Concordance says it is: a primitive root; to cut down or off; (figuratively) to destroy, divide, exclude, or decide: KJV--cut down (off), decree, divide, snatch.
Eliphaz the Temanite uses it in the sense of decide a thing.
Eliphaz the Temanite says to Job that what he decides will be done.
But in Job 42:7-8 God says:
7 And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.
8 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.
With a statement like that from God, why are Jobs comforters being quoted for Godly doctrinal instruction?
In Job 27:1; Job is speaking:
Job 27:1: Moreover Job continued his parable, and said,
Continuing through to chapter 28, Job still speaking:
23 God understandeth the way thereof, and he knoweth the place thereof.
24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;
25 To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure.
26 When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:
27 Then did he see it, and declare it; he prepared it, yea, and searched it out.
28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
The word for decree in verse 6 is choq, and according to Strongs Concordance means: an enactment; hence, an appointment (of time, space, quantity, labor or usage): KJV--appointed, bound, commandment, convenient, custom, decree (-d), due, law, measure, X necessary, ordinance (-nary), portion, set time, statute, task.
This same word is used in Psalms 2:7:
Psalms 2:7 (NIV):
7 I will proclaim the decree of the Lord: He said to me, You are my Son; today I have become your Father.
This same word for decree is used in Psalms 148:6:
5 Let them praise the name of the Lord: for he commanded, and they were created.
6 He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass.
There is a pattern here of God doing the decreeing, not humanity. There are a lot more verses indicating this.
Vines Expository Dictionary says of decree, choq:
STATUTE, ORDINANCE: choq, statute; prescription; rule; law; regulation. This noun is derived from the verb haqaq, to cut in, determine, decree. Choq occurs 127 times in biblical Hebrew.
The first usage of (c)hoq is in (Gen. 47:22): Only the land of the priests bought he not; for the priests had a portion [choq] assigned them of Pharaoh.... This word is frequent in Deuteronomy and Psalms and rare in the historical books and in the prophets.
The meaning of choq in the first occurrence (Gen. 47:22) differs from the basic meaning of statute. It has the sense of something allotted or apportioned. A proverb speaks about the food that is my portion (Prov. 30:8), NASB; KlV, food convenient for me; literally, food of my prescription or portion. Job recognized in his suffering that God does what is appointed for him: For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me [literally, he will perform my Law]... (23:14). The portion may be something that is due to a person as an allowance or payment. The Egyptian priests received their income from Pharaoh (Gen. 47:22), even as God permitted a part of the sacrifice to be enjoyed by the priests: And it shall be Aarons and his sons [as their portion] for ever from the children of Israel: for it is a heave offering... (Exod. 29:28).
The word choq also signifies law, or statute. In a general sense it refers to the laws of nature like rain: When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder (Job 28:26); cf. (Jer. 5:22); and the celestial bodies: He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass (Ps. 148:6) cf. Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever (Jer. 31:35-36). Moreover, the word choq denotes a law promulgated in a country: And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part; except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaohs (Gen. 47:26).
Finally, and most important, the law given by God is also referred to as a choq: When they have a matter, they come unto me; and I judge between one and another, and I do make them know the statutes [choq] of God, and his laws [torah] (Exod. 18:16). The words synonyms are mitswah, commandment; mishpat, judgment; berit, covenant; torah, law; and `edut, testimony. It is not easy to distinguish between these synonyms, as they are often found in conjunction with each other: Ye shall diligently keep the commandments [mitswah] of the Lord your God, and his testimonies [`edah], and his statutes [choq], which he hath commanded thee (Deut. 6:17).
Its clear that God decrees, and may utilize His chosen leaders to issue His decrees. But for a person sovereignly to decree something doesnt appear to be scriptural.
This is confirmed in the New Testament where Paul the apostle says:
17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Lets get this partial scriptural quote out into the open: Isaiah 54:17: No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord. This is a statement of reassurance by God, not something that we are to decree. The verse reads No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper ... It does not say: No weapon that is formed against me ... does it? Furthermore, it is ... the heritage of the servants of the Lord ... If you are a servant of the Lord, do you have to decree something that is your heritage? This partial quote of this verse is also, time wise, inappropriate as it applies to the redeemed nation of Israel. Pray that the spirit of confusion will fall upon the enemy ... How about we pray that the spirit of confusion not fall upon the author of this thing? This whole thought of: Pray that the spirit of confusion will fall upon the enemy that their own plan to deceive others will cause their own destruction, smacks of charismatic witchcraft, doesnt it? How about we simply pray that the will of God be done? Maybe He has something greater than the spirit of confusion in mind. Or He may have something lesser in mind. Why attempt to second guess God? In view of the book of Revelation, which tells us of the not too distant future happenings on this planet, do you want to pray a charismatic witchcraft prayer to thwart Gods plans? Just so you arent inconvenienced by tribulation? The key is right there: What they had planned for your harm, I will turn for your good. Why not leave the driving to God? And pray for what the word tells us to pray for, rather than attempt to project our own personal agenda into the economy of God? Yeah, I know I lost some of you on that, but thats because you dont read the Bible for yourself and try with everything within you to understand the Fathers heart and His eternal purpose.
So rejoice that I AM for you, and I will fight for you for I AM the Captain of the hosts of heaven, and I AM unleashing My great white horses to trample down the enemy.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
This is much further along the scheme of biblical things and would be premature for us now. Old Testament reference to white horses takes us to:
1 And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.
2 In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses;
3 And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses.
4 Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?
5 And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.
6 The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.
7 And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth.
8 Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
Here we have a chariot with white horses, who are sent to the north country which is either Babylon and/or Medo-Persia. This prophecy was fulfilled. However, it could be a double reference prophecy. But it applies to the nation of Israel, specifically. So it could be that it is a reference to Israel being triumphant over the northern forces of the enemy at some future time of its fulfillment in scripture. However, it necessitates four chariots and their horses, that walk to and fro through the earth with the result of quieting Gods spirit of wrath as regards the north country:
Zechariah 6:8 (Amplified Bible): Then He summoned me, and said to me, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted My Spirit [of wrath] and have caused it to rest in the north country.
Since the antichrist and the beast system are still in the future, however, this doesnt seem to be a rational sequence of events.
Keep your eyes looking ahead, and believe for great things to happen.
I will allow the warfare to go so far, and I will allow the flames to go so high, until I see the hearts of My people turn to Me once again. I know My people, and I know what it will take to break the hardness of hearts. I know My people, and I know what it will take to break the hardness of hearts..
They will try to defend themselves out of pride but will see their own plan fail. And then hearts will melt of fear, and they will cast off their worldly desires for fame and recognition, and humble themselves as one before Me. All will bow down before Me and acknowledge Me as the one true God.
I AM your Lord and King, and My love will not fail. Keep your eyes on Me, and I will see you through, and in peace and safety you will dwell for I AM your God.
13 For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
15 We looked for peace, but no good came; and for a time of health, and behold trouble!
12 The spoilers are come upon all high places through the wilderness: for the sword of the LORD shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace.
18 If I go forth into the field, then behold the slain with the sword! and if I enter into the city, then behold them that are sick with famine! yea, both the prophet and the priest go about into a land that they know not.
19 Hast thou utterly rejected Judah? hath thy soul lothed Zion? why hast thou smitten us, and there is no healing for us? we looked for peace, and there is no good; and for the time of healing, and behold trouble!
Sorry, but we wont dwell in peace and safety until after some awful battles here on earth. Would somebody please read the book of Revelation?
This last statement in this thing really identifies it as a false prophecy. Im not saying the person who wrote is a false prophet, only that this is a false prophecy.
I dont see where this writing follows scriptural precedents:
Does it speak forth the mind and counsel of God for repentance, to return to righteousness and does it bring healing and restoration back to God? This is a major theme of the Old Testament prophets, which is carried over into the New Testament and most highly visible in the ministry of Jesus Christ.
Does it indicate Gods priorities, the use of Gods power in this date and hour, or indicate Gods contemporary purposes? Where is the testimony about Jesus or from Jesus in all this? (Amos 3:7; Hebrews 1:1,2; Revelation 10:7; 19:10).
Does it edify the saints, i.e., contribute to their spirtual growth and character development? (Ephesians 4:29: 1 Thessalonians 5:11, 19-21; 1 Corinthians 14:3,4).
Does it exhort the saints, i.e., encourage a course of action, comfort, relieve and ease grief and loneliness? (1 Corinthians 14:3).
Does it comfort, i.e., does it display a tenderness, while stressing the process or progress of comforting? (1 Corinthians 14:3).
Is there Godly revelation where the mind of God is unveiled for His ekklesia? (1 Corinthians 14:30).
Have the saints learned from this by increased knowledge, observation and/or use? (1 Corinthians 14:31).
It does not appear to meet the qualifications for prophecy whether from exercising the charisma descension gift of prophecy of the Holy Spirit or from the doma ascension gift of prophet given by Jesus Himself.
This writing appears to be a mix of personal opinions, subjective interpretation of the meaning of select world events, both past and future, and projection of theological/philosophical personal beliefs. Instances of stating obvious, known facts, reiterating biblical themes as if a new revelation from God, and attempting to attribute personal convictions as being from God are also observed. The sub-theme of some supposed unity, without qualifying the center of polarity for such unity, is an ecumenical device that is contrary to scripture. The personal and subjective, but unbiblical, hope and optimism for peace and safety is highly significant in view of the usage of that phrase by false prophets of the Old Testament.
Does it have some good sounding stuff in it? You betcha! Do you want to take the time to separate the wheat from the chaff or just dump the whole thing? Thats up to you, isnt it?
I dont feel it necessary to identify the author, as this is typical of what is flooding the internet today, and I have chosen to respond to its existence because it is degrading to my Creator and my God, as all such false prophecies are. The substitution of mans wisdom for Gods wisdom is an insulting counterfeit. Why this type of falsity is allowed to pervade the internet without question is a terrible testimony of just how much the gift of discerning of spirits has been neglected or ignored.
I dont know the author and have nothing to say for or against them. I am sure they are Bible believing, blood-washed, love Jesus and want to be a blessing to the body of Christ. However, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Differing personalities and/or theological persuasions are not an issue. What is an issue is the truth and justice of God and His word.