Hey guys it's Kevin. You may have noticed some, uh, changes to the website recently. And if you haven't, let me sum it up for you. In short, there is some pompous, zealous asshole who thinks our website is far too offensive to be put on the internet. Even though only a few people view our website and we're not offensive at all. So this person decides to take our website and cleanse it of all it's offensiveness...what a little bitch. Don't worry though, MSMR will never die.

What follows is what "BWA" posted when it took over our website. I'll be pointing out flaws in this theory as well as all the ad hominem arguements, circle arguements, and just plain stupid things this person says. I'd like to add that even though I could, I have not alterted this in any way.


Warning! MSMR has been taken over!
Attention to all viewers! I have taken over your precious MSMR site that you tend to visit and enjoy. This is done as an action towards the owners and members of Moneky See, Monkey Review, or MSMR as you refer to it as.

Many of you are probably going to ask, "What the fuck?" or "Why?" Well, here's your answer: Offense. MSMR has sent many offensive messages to various viewers and people. The common reply that would be given is for us to not visit this site anymore, but the envelope was pushed too far to be simply ignored.

The envelope was not pushed at all. There is nothing at all offensive on this site. If you wanna talk about small scale, well then it sucks that you got offended, but no one cares. Alright, let's go a little bit larger scale. According to the rules of angelfire, we have done absolutely nothing wrong.

"Lycos defines "adult content" as any type of media that could be considered pornographic. This includes any image that depicts nudity."

As anyone can see, there actually is nothing like that on our site. I looked through Angelfire's rules and this was the rule we were closest to breaking. As any idiot can see, we haven't broken that rule because there simply is no porn on this site.
Angelfire doesn't however, give any rules about calling someone a dirty name. You can do that all you want.
If you want to go on an even larger scale, we have a constitutional right to say whatever the hell we want and you're trying to take that away. You damn commie.
Just because one psycho like you says that a website is offensive, you think that gives you the right to take it away? I'm sure what you're doing looks like something heroic in your head, but it's not. It's really just annoying and dumb.

The insult to the members being gay or topics being gay has been a mild offence that usually has been ignored.

O-F-F-E-N-S-E
Buy a dictionary you uneducated bastard.

Why must you insult the homosexuals? Do you fear them? Or do you make fun of them because you’re afraid to admit your own homosexuality?

No one has ever, EVER insulted homosexuals themselves. We've called our friends gay before, yeah. We're picking on them and messing with them because they are our friends. We've never directly insulted homosexuals. Since you think you know so much about today's society, the term "gay" is slang for something being bad. We're not the only ones that do that. Yeah, we use slang, excuse us all to hell.

They’re just the same as you, neither is greater. The only difference is that they have different sexual interest. It's an ungodly terror when it comes to something being gay, yet you all seem to love the idea of lesbianism. Lesbians are practically the same as gays! Why don't you fear them? It's not like you will get any with them either, they aren't interested in your gender! In short, back off the homosexuals.

What is this? Are you getting mad at us or males everywhere? You're actually telling me that you're mad because we like lesbians? And for the record, none of us fear gays. You don't know a damn thing about us.

There was also once a posting by a viewer saying something along the lines of wanting some teacher to die? Yeah, enough said here.

Ok, two very excellent flaws in your theory here. A) That was a VIEWER, not a MEMBER. We cannot be held responsible for stupid shit that people say on the message. We can, however, delete things that we find offensive. Which brings me to point B, that message no longer exists. If you're gonna get mad at us, at least do it for something we did.

The third and most important is the accusing of people being a child molester, or rapist.

See, there's that pesky "rape" word again. No one said anything about rape. You're the ones that keep saying that. Now you're just twisting our words around.

I do not see how this could be funny to anyone.

Ya know, I have no idea how you got the idea in your head that we think it's funny, because we don't. No one here is condoning child molesting or making fun of it. In fact, the only thing we've done is talk about how bad it is. We're making fun of someone who said, "I can understand how someone can molest little girls." Oh, I'm sorry that we're insulting child molesters. I didn't know that making fun of dumbshits and perverts offended you so much.

If you have issues with this person, why not take it somewhere else and with something not so serious. Let me ask you this, have any of you been raped? Have any of you had to feel the humiliation of someone overpowering you into doing something against your will, breaking your pride? Obviously not, and obviously you all don't understand the terms of respect and maturity.

See, this is what pisses me off the most. You clearly have no respect. This is OUR website. Do you see that word in all caps? I did that to emphasize the point that it's OURS not YOURS. So you got offended, fine. That doesn't give you the right to damage someone else's property.

Or maybe, once again, you talk about it a lot because you have a fetish to molest children on your own?

This is the dumbest fucking thing you've said to us. Do you even realize what you just said. You're getting mad at us for calling someone a child molester and then you turn around and call US child molesters. I hope you can see the irony there, because it's very obvious.

The truth is unknown to us all. The matter at hand is this is disrespectful to any human being, especially those you are accusing,

Ya know, even the guy we were insulting call you a bunch of pussies. Go ahead, it's on the message board. Black and white.

and those who have been raped and sexually abused. If you believe that complaints to Angelfire or the Bravenet organization that supports the message board won't change anything, I advise you to think again.

I've already pointed out how wrong you are here. I don't think I need to do it again.

Issues like this are not taken lightly, especially in our society.

You mean like on South Park right? Thank god everyone hates that show and it doesn't make millions of dollars a year.
Speaking of which, why not destroy the writers of South Park? I mean, their material reaches a LOT more people then ours does. And since you're such good hackers, why don't you fuck up the computers at comedy central?

Lucky for the members, they aren't running on their own server where they would get in a lot of trouble with the government. Oh, wait, they also have their email addresses and information on the site, those can be used as well. A shame it is to see that the members of MSMR had to be so stupid and pile up themselves in their own shit.

There is no way that we could get in trouble with the government for calling someone a child molester. There is absolutely nothing illegal about it. Now hacking into angelfire's server to get someone else's password....

You see, there is a difference between funny and breaking the line. MSMR wants to become a site full of comedians? Well, take my advice on one thing. Even the best of all comedians know there the line lies in what is funny. Maturity and immaturity can be funny, but there is always the fine line of not making jokes about issues involving rape,

I must reiterate, no one said anything about rape.

abuse, molestations, etc. So you think you are so damn funny? Yeah, your humor made you lose access to your site it seems. Really sucks to be you. It’s not only a matter of maturity, but a matter of respect. Respect for everyone, especially those who have gone through tough times like these. Then again, you wouldn't know, or understand, what this means since you haven't had to live through it. How would you feel if someone make you finally see the shame of it, and came and just raped you? How would you like to unwillingly lose your virginity, your pride, your one sacred gift to give to the one you love? You don't know because you haven't experienced it. So grow up and learn to be mature and give some respect.

I've already said it before, but I thought it was so good, I think I'll say it again. I don't know why you're so fucked up in the head, why you can't understand that the situation is not as serious as you make it out to be. Maybe your mommy didn't hug you enough, maybe your daddy hugged you too much. I don't care either way.

Now, will I give back MSMR? I haven't decided, honestly. It all depends if they can prove to me that they can learn from all this. A simple apology won't work anymore. I gave my warning, but it was ignored. They have decided to act like little children, so I am punishing them like so. I was once told by a wise friend, "If one is given the gift of something and abuses their power with it, the only way to learn is by taking it away." Well, that's what we have in this situation, their precious site is now taken away from them. Hope you enjoyed MSMR while it lasted.

Alright, so let me sum up the reasons why you had absolutely no reason to do this.
1) This is not your website. It belongs to us. If you really were offended, you could just leave.
2) We have done nothing wrong. We made fun of a person for saying that he could understand how someone could molest little girls. I think that if a person says something like that, they should be made fun of. No one made jokes about child molesting. No one thinks child molesting is funny. No one thinks that it is right. That is the bottom line.
3) Your arguements are based on ad hominem. Which basically means that you're attacking us, instead of the issue. You yourself accused us of "having a fetish for child molesting". If that doesn't prove my point that you're a pretentious, self-righteous idiot, then I don't know what will. Show me the quote where we make a joke about child molesting. You can't because there are none. It is true that we make fun of a guy, but we don't make fun of child molesting.
4) You're trying to blame us for all the bad things in the world, which we obviously are not to blame. Yeah, child molestion happens and it sucks. No one's arguing that. None of us have molested children. It's not our fault it happens.
5) You're just plain stupid for overreacting.

Go ahead, I dare you to think of a way to come back. What you did is wrong and there is the logic to prove it.
Go to the website anyway.
Go to the new message board

~*BWA*~