Jueann say, "hi hi"
Lynsay pages, "Is there a limit to how long you've been here if you can go or not?"
Brenna says, "hello hi!"
Jueann paged Lynsay with: Jueann pages, "no"
Gold_Guest waves. "Hi!"
Jueann paged Lynsay with: Jueann pages, "all is welcome"
The daemon speaks in Kaeryn's voice waggles her fingers and grins, "Hiya!"
Jueann waves and mugs for the Daemon
Lynsay pages, "Thanks. :o)"
Madarivian says, "oops! hello! just testing!"
Thalassina hmms "Wierd you see the people on channel on channel even if you are in hell and not coming from the room."
Jueann say, "hi all and welcome. We'll begin in a moment. "
Drynna says, "Ok"
Jueann say, "hi and welcome. we'll start in a min or two. "
Nephlight says, "hell?"
The daemon speaks in Niyanne's voice says, "Don't cuss, deary. ;)"
Nephlight says, "how very pleasant"
Jueann say, "This is an nice ooc place for ooc things, like this lesson"
Drynna says, "What's a daemon?"
Jueann points to the face. "That thing."
Drynna says, "Oh"
The daemon speaks in Niyanne's voice says, "It's a free-running task that does things for you in the background. (So sayeth my father, The Techie Geek.)"
Thalassina's face disappears from the daemon.
Drynna says, "Oh."
Jueann chuckles. "Ok, first thing we are going to talk about is setting up your character.
Nephlight turns around 80
Dale says, "About how long might this be?"
Nephlight says, "aaaaauuuuuuuugggggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Nephlight says, "were in hell!!!"
Drynna hmms.
The daemon speaks in Ayrina's voice says, "Keep the spam down, please?"
Jueann say, "But first a few ground rules. There's no need for ooc here. We are ooc. But I do ask that we keep to the subjcet at hand to keep the spam down. Please"
Nephlight says, "i was just messin around"
Naiviradam says, "Hiho!"
Jueann say, "What is spam?"
Nephlight looks disappointed in himself
Jueann say, "Who can tell me?"
Gold_Guest raises her hand. "It's unneccessary and annoying stuff."
Ayton says, "I'm not going to answer, since I already know. :o) Well, I probably know most of it. :o)"
Elythria says, "oh bother, don't type fast enough"
Jueann nods. "Right. now back to the lesson. How to set up your character? So you are ok'd by the tough guides of the Birthplace, now what?"
Nephlight says, "is spam an acronym or just nomentarial?"
Dale thinks, "Find a home right?"
Jueann nods to Dale, "for a start." turning to Nephlight, "Its slang"
Naiviradam says, "find a home..decide your history...stuff like that."
Nephlight says, "how do your find a home, ive been starting in traveler's cothold"
Elythria says, "Decide your char's personality too"
Nephlight says, "is that ok?"
Naiviradam nods.
Ayton says, "Eep. Gotta write someones @history for them. :o) I'll use my alt. :o)"
Jueann say, "Right. You have 30 real life days to find a home. So you explore, and if you've found an area you like, you either page/@send the area mailer or page the area leader or staffmember"
Jueann say, "After 30 days, if you are still on the traveler parent, your character is gone"
Nephlight says, "how do we know who the local staffmember is?"
Nherys warbles and plops down somewhere to wait until she can be of assistance. Elythria says, "who"
Jueann say, "You ask a guide or look at the helpfile of the area. Everyone, type: help Keroon"
Jueann say, "notice that there just be a file that tells you who the area staff are"
Dale says, "Keroon Hold?"
Jueann say, "Keroon hold"
Elythria says, "Which one?"
Nephlight says, "or k-index?"
Nephlight says, "or positions maybe?"
Jueann hmms "Maybe I chose the wrong one. But trust me, the helpfiles have area staff on it.
Elythria says, "It's help keroon hold"
Elythria says, "On the top of the file"
Dale says, "help Keroon_Hold"
Nephlight says, "i c"
Jueann say, "Ok, you find the hold/craft/weyr that your character wants to join, you usually have to go through an interview of some sort. Was does the Area leader is looking for."
Nephlight says, "will we start at our new home,once we find one, when we log on?"
Jueann say, "once you @sethome in whatever area, usually a dorm, you will wake up in that dorm"
Nherys nods, "That's usually how it works...." Though she has woken up in stran....nevermind...
Nephlight says, "is the interview to set our home or to get a job?" Dale says, "To join the hold I think now I have a few alts and did not have to go through a interview just to join a craft"
Jueann say, "to get a job/position. I know that Gar has a 7 hour rp'ing requirement in their area before they'll accept someone. Its to insure that person will fit into the hold"
Naiviradam thinks interviews are kinda fun....
Ayden believes that is now 4 hours Jueann, Gar at least.
Elythria says, "Yeah, to get a home you just send the staff person, and they just put you in, only for crafts you have to be interviewed. At least from my experience."
Jueann say, "I know with Ista, you ask a staffer and they'll just add you to the parent but for a position, you have to go through a chat"
Nherys pipes up, "And you usually get to @sethome once you've been accepted." Yup, they are...
Nephlight says, "back to what you were saying, i missed it, how do we set our personality and history?"
Jueann nods to Ayden. "I thought it was 7. sorry.
Ayden hugs "No need to be sorry"
Nephlight says, "@something?"
Jueann say, "to set history, you must first know the books, and history of Pern or at least a rough outline. "
Ayden beams at Silvera and makes room for her on her private couch.
Silvera brushes back her combover so that her horns are revealed. She beams at Ayden and collapses on the couch. "Mmmm, comfy!"
Jueann say, "We find that a normal background of parents, kin and so forth is the except rather then the rule. Angst background can get a bit dicey for staff people to wade through"
Nephlight says, "how do we learn the books?"
Trew says, "If your history is going to include being from a Hold that doesn't seem to be in play, please ask someone about it. For instance "Does this Hold have a Lord Holder...""
Jueann say, "type: help theme and help history They are set for Pern history"
The daemon speaks in Kaeryn's voice nods in agreement with Jueann, "The less angsty the better, definitely."
Nherys says, "By reading them?" Nherys arghs, and idles to breifly finish the last of her homework.
Jueann say, "right Trew. Being Lord Raid's son will get you in hot water with the wizzens here as it violates the rules set down by Anne"
Nephlight says, "does it need to be in ista? thats the only area people seem to be in" Naiviradam wonders what kind of homework?
Ayden shakes her head "No, there are several areas you can choose from, only some are off limits."
Jueann say, "Also if you are going to be from a certain hold that's active here onthe game like Grinstead, its nice that you have the permission of the Area Leader or let him/her know what you want o use it"
Dale says, "What would you think would be the books to read? And I have no backgrounds, on any of my alts"
Trew says, "Nephlight, there are besides Ista- Keroon Gar Tillek..."
Jueann say, "All the books of Pern or at least the Harper Hall Trilogy by Anne McCaffrey, Dale"
Nephlight says, "i know there are other holds, its just no one seems to be around" Dale says, "Ok read them"
Jueann say, "Benden Weyr, Ruatha Hold is off-limits. You can have a vague background from the major holds but you can't be the descend of any of Anne"
Jueann say, "oops Anne's characters in the books"
Nephlight says, "will we get to be related to anyone in the actual books or is it forbidden?" Naiviradam says, "i think the first books are a better example of the whole of pern."
Jueann say, "Nephlight, forbidden"
Trew says, "A quick-start way is to buy a DLG [Dragon Lovers Guide to Pern]. Not fun reading, but =loads= of info.."
Nephlight says, "say...dragonflight - ?"
Trew says, "...but read some of the books too."
Ayden agrees with Trew "Wonderful resource"
Jueann nods. "yes. We use the DLG like a manual
Naiviradam nods at Trew. it's not that bad of reading.
Jueann say, "Ok, you set your history and background. Remember, there's no magic on Pern just dragons and dolphins. What next? staying on the good side of the guides would be nice."
Dale nods, "I like reading to books, something new in each one
Jueann say, "how do you stay on the good side of the guides?"
Dale says, "Good question how do you?"
Naiviradam says, "don't be anoying and ask abvious questions."
Dale nods, "Ok so it that all?
Naiviradam says, "DON'T ask obvious questions!"
Nephlight says, "is this a jab at me jueann?"
Jueann say, "By reading the helpfiles, and yes. Stay out of private areas, and don't take things that don't belong to you."
Dale says, "And what about the wiz's?"
Jueann blinks at Nephlight, "You haven't ask anything yet. We tend to give newbies lots of 2nd chances.
Nephlight says, "private area are places like, bob's tent, and things like that?"
Stanbogan says, "and do your best to be polite in all things?"
Naiviradam says, "oh yeah...no stealing form the candy store!"
Trew says, "In any exchange of communication, remember that some people write short messages and some longer ones... Always make some time for the folks who write longer [and perhaps slower...]"
Jueann say, "What about the wiz's? You will be dealing with the guides first before you do the wizzes"
The daemon speaks in Ayrina's voice says, "Private places also include offices."
Ayden smiles "We like questions, we really really do. If you ask you find out, much better all the way around, so if in doubt about something......ask."
The daemon speaks in Ayrina's voice says, "And barracks and dorms..."
Jueann say, "Ship rooms, dragon weyrs, barracks and dorms"
Jueann say, "the two main weyrs are fine to explore but don't enter dragon weyrs"
Nephlight says, "offices? like a guard office,i thaught you applied there?"
Nephlight says, "can we go in the hatching cavern?"
Naiviradam says, "I think so."
Trew says, "If you apply someplace you will be =invited=. That's different"
Nherys shakes her head, "Offices like private offices, kinda like IRL....."
Ayden shakes her head "The gallerie only, not the sands."
Jueann say, "The harper office and the guard offices are craft offices and if you have business in them, they aren't private. its the ones that have a person's name on the exit."
The daemon speaks in Ayrina's voice says, "The hatching sands are off limits, too."
The daemon speaks in Ayrina's voice says, "For instance, you wouldn't just walk into the Lord Holder's office without his invitation first."
Jueann say, "if in doubt, page a guide or the owner of the room"
Dale nods, "I ask before I enter
Jueann say, "Politeness goes a long ways. Ask in a page first"
Naiviradam says, "The queen won't let you on the sands."
Silvera oohs, and waves a hand. "Don't forget the Weyrling Barracks!" That's private, too.
Nherys says, "Except in special cases....."
The daemon speaks in Ayrina's voice grins. All barracks are considered private.
Jueann say, "Remember, there are alot of public areas to explore like the areas around Grinstead and Gar or even the weyr"
In a caricature of Kaeryn nods, "Paging is /always/ helpful. You should page before going into a private room, but also, think about paging and asking a person or people are ok for RP before just bounciing into them for RP or joining their RP."
The daemon speaks in Ayrina's voice says, "Special cases for the weyrling barracks? Only with permission...."
Stanbogan says, "and using @who/a helps you not intrude on RP, sometimes."
Naiviradam says, "how do you aplly to get into the dolphin hall? no one is ever there."
Jueann say, "Rp'ing. Next subject. What is rp'ing? "
Nherys still gets freaked out by that whole daemon thing....aieee.
Elythria says, "Role playing"
Jueann say, "@send them a note Naiv"
Naiviradam patpats Nherys.
Naiviradam says, "Ahhhhh...I see. thanks."
Dale says, "That is a hard place to get into the dolphin craft"
Jueann say, "Roleplaying. In a public area, sitting on the beach can spark rp'ing. I've seen it when 2 people sit on the beach and soon its a party event. "
Jueann say, "But when should you ask if it ok to join rp'ing?"
Nherys rolls her eyes, "How do you think we end up with so many 'harper parties' on the beach....."
Elythria says, "When they're in a private place?"
Jueann say, "That's one. How about when they are in an secluded area?"
Naiviradam thinks it's 'cause harper are born to party!
Dale thinks, "I ask before I enter the room."
Jueann say, "What is ic and ooc"
Elythria says, "In char and Out of Char"
Nherys nods, "Then too...just like real life, people go off to be by thtemselves." This is sooo not fair! The topic keeps changing so fast I can't keep up!
Jueann say, "What's the difference?"
Nherys warbles and wiggles her nose at the Natch-daemon.
In a caricature of Kaeryn grins at Nherys, "You're a harper. You can keep up!"
Dale says, "OOC what the person behind the char is doing/thinking/saying. And IC it that of the char itself"
Nherys beams and warbles, bouncing happily. "He gets it!"
Jueann nods to Dale. OOc is for real stuff like you have to answer the phone. Parents are giving you a hard time. bath break/snack break etc
Jueann say, "you type: ooc brb (that means you'll be right back)"
Dale says, "Yea I know that but get confused with some ore the 3 letter words"
Jueann say, "please if you are going to leave your keyboard, be polite and let the people you are rp'ing know so you don't hold things up."
Nherys hrmmms, and translates a few. BBS, Be Back Soon, BBL, Be Back Later, afk, away from keyboard....
Dale nods, "Yea hate when people do it
Jueann say, "its very irritating to wait for a pose and wait only to discover that the person had left their keyboard to do something."
Jueann say, "And they didn't take the time to let you know"
Jueann say, "Also, ic means Pern and rp'ing. newbies tend to confuse the two. That's ok, you'll and they'll learn. We hope."
Nherys nods, "Sometimes if your on a channel, and have to idle for say....homework, it's nice to ask if someone will let the people who RP with you know what you're doing. That way you don't come back to a million: 'Are you there?' 'Uh, hello!' etc. pages.
Dale nods, "Yea and I try to spend time one each alt
Ayden adds a little something?
Jueann chuckles at Ayen. "Go ahead."
Ayden smiles "If you enter a room and there is only one person there? Look at them, see if they have been idle a while, page to see if the are ok to rp. "
Jueann say, "As I keep saying politeness goes a long way."
Nherys ooohs, "That is good, Ayden...oh, and if you're on more than one alt, let people know too, so they don't get impatient waiting for poses..."
Dale says, "like"
Jueann say, "The length of the poses can be fun to do but as the lag time drags on, the person you are rp'ing with can get a bit scared at the spam. "
Jueann say, "Try to keep the lines of posing to a reasonable length."
Trew says, "Sorry, got discon'ed"
Dale says, "2-4 lines?"
Jueann say, "Something like that. We you get in a room with 4 to 15 plus people, those lines can cause the lines on your screen to scroll first."
Jueann say, "I don't go to parties or hatchings on HT because of that. I can't handle the spam"
Jueann say, "And that's alright. That's my choice."
Dale nods, "Well I am still tyring at the hatching got to impress one day
Jueann say, "ok, here's a pet peeve of mine. You are rp'ing and someone comes in and starts role-playing and that person steps away to mail someone. They didn't bother to tell you. "
Nherys nods to the earlier OOC example. "Yeah, or something like that. Unless it's only a few peole, who know you like to do long poses..." 2 of my alts got flitters w/out trying after 2 years and numerous hatchings. "Oooh, that is annoying...."
Jueann say, "If you are going to mail someone, wait until the rp'ing is over or politely excuse yourself first"
Dale nods, "Ok!"
Nherys icks, "It's really annoying to have to edit amillion of those messages out of a log, as well as being disruptive to RP..."
Jueann say, "pet spam and fire lizard spam can be fun but some people just don't like it in a public area in the middle of their rp'ing."
Dale says, "I don't mind the Firelizard or pet spam as long as it does not get to out of hand, understand?""
Ayden smiles and adds "Power playing your pets or firelizards is still power playing." which happens to a pet..pardon the pun..peeve of mine : )
Jueann say, "All we are saying is be polite and ask if in doubt. Also, R*S*ing to shoo away the firelizards and shooing pets in a public area or in a semi-private area where you have no business being in is a good way to have the guides on your backs"
Nherys likes her lazy lump for that reason. He doesn't get around much....Took up residence in the guys dorm...."True, but sometimes the people you usually RP with know, and don't mind as much...." Such as Siannen's usual 'Reaches crowd, and Nher's harper pillows.
Jueann smiles. "ok any questions? We have 10 mins or so."
Elythria says, "Well, what did you cover while I was gone?"
Dale shakes his head, "Not for me and thanks for the lesson and help."
Jueann say, "ok, 2 more things before I call an end. TS'ing and SOS"
Trew listens attentively...
Nherys hrms, OOC/IC, RP, flitspam, private rooms, power-playing....I think that's the list...
Dale says, "SOS was just started by D'thon right (I read the post.)"
In a caricature of Shirgall nods, although @911 has been around for a while.
Jueann says, "We are a family moo. We have kids from 10 to 60 years old here."
Elythria says, "Ok"
Nherys aiees, it's Shirgall! Do you ever actually do stuff?
In a caricature of Shirgall corrects Jueann, "I've seen younger players."
Qunold wonders what @911 is never having heard of it.
In a caricature of Kaeryn peers at her little harper friend and pokes her. "Of course he does stuff. He's Shirgall!"
Jueann says, "ts'ing or tinysex is forbidden in public areas! You get caught and you'll have Shirgall and the guides down on you."
Trew looks skeptical... "There's a player that's 60?"
Jueann smiles at Shirgall.
Nherys looks indignant. Like what, hmmmm?
Trew says, "50 for sure. I'm that..."
Nherys is talking IC stuff...(thbbbbpt)
In a caricature of Shirgall notes that people caught TS'ing in public areas are typically used as targets for skeet shooting at the annual Guides barbeque and shotgun-fest.
Jueann say, "We can't stop you if you are in your private rooms, but remember, there are kids on the game. Be sure of your partner's age."
In a caricature of Kaeryn ooohs :o)
Trew says, "Younger than ten, Shirgall is correct."
Jueann say, "Shirgall has spoken and I for one don't want to be the reason for him pulling the plug on the game for any reason. Do you?"
The daemon speaks in Thalassina's voice says, "when is the next one of that anyways?"
Jueann say, "Any questions? If you think you can pull anything over on the guides or the wizzens or the guides, think again. We usually find out in due time"
Nherys nononononononono......Nher-player love HT....*sniffle* Pulling da plug would be a Bad Thing, and I will offer my services for the decapitation of whoever causes it to be considered.
In a caricature of Shirgall notes that the time, place, and event schedule of the guides barbeques are necessarily secret because of stalker issues.
Dale says, "I know, and have to go so about how much longer?"
Nherys nods, "The guides and wizzen are all-seeing, and all-knowing, even if you don't think so...."
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "Not that anyone who's not truly crazy stalks a bnunch of people that are skeet shooting."
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "The reason we practice that, though, is for the firelizard plague of 2000."
In a caricature of Kaeryn has been practicing :o)
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "Seriously, though, since there's been powerplaying issues of late, perhaps we should talk about that."
Jueann say, "Do we have time to cover power-playing?"
Ayden thinks it's important.
Dale says, "I know what it is"
Jueann say, "ok, what is power-playing?"
Trew says, "Yes... what exactly is that?"
In a caricature of Kryss picks up Jueann and sticks her in a box and covers it with bows... :p
Elythria says, "It's saying someone else did something they might not have done in reality."
Nherys notes that the flitter populace is safe from her two bronzes, one's a lazy slug and the other is confused as to if golds are really flits, and thinks glowing greens are funny looking.
Ayden nods "That is one instance Elythria, but not all"
Nherys raises her hand, but then decides against it, because she's admittedly guilty of it herself...
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "Power-playing is an action of yours that implies someone else has done something or thought something, without their conesnt."
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "Erf, consent."
Stanbogan says, "/Any/ action you do to or with another character or their things without ooc permission?"
Trew says, "Wizzes talk funny..."
Jueann says, "The guides see alot of power-playing in descriptions too"
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "Some wizzes are trained in the legal profession. ;)"
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "True, descs are technically 'actions'. Gotta work on my definition."
Jueann say, "power-playing can and will cause hard feelings. And mostly certainly get you on the bad side of the guides"
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "At any rate, a good example is a desc that says, "Snerdly has a scar on his left cheek that makes you think he is a criminal.""
The daemon speaks in Kryss' voice says, "You see someone who is the most beautiful person in the world. Your eyes stay riveted to her glistening eyes of sapphire... :P"
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "Subtle, but it's powerplaying."
Nherys peers at the daemon, grinning. "Yep, that. I often wondered how so many people get away w/it since y'all are so vehement about no, "As you look at
Jueann say, "We've given alot of don'ts but we tried to give some do's. Do go and explore. Do have fun."Trew hmmms, "The MOO used to have a command "emit". Doesn't seem to work... Removed because of abuse?
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "@emit"
Ayden beams "Aww Kryss, thanks for the compliment" : )
In a caricature of Kryss' smiles ever so innocently at Ay
Nherys likes @emit, it spices things up a bit...
Jueann say, "Alot of descriptions were in place before the guides started cracking down on them, Nherys."
Trew says, "Ahhh... yes but @emit could be used for =nasty= power playing. Potential for abuse"
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "There are ways to tell who @emitted something."
The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice says, "See "help @paranoid""
Jueann say, "If you use @emit be sure to stick your name in there somewhere. or at least acknowledge it"
Nherys nods, "That makes sense...I've been through three different versions of the creating a character process...."
Trew looks to the daemon "Thanks"
In a caricature of Kryss' grins gotta love paranoia
Jueann say, "Does this help anyone? Are we making sense?"
Nherys tries to stick the person's name on a @emit when she's editing and they forgot, but did an OOC: Twinky ulps, that last one was me!
Trew admits that it's help him on a few matters...
Jueann say, "We try to do this at least once a month"
This one's Nher's second, and she's getting better at helping. This one was calmer than the last though...
The daemon speaks in Shirgall says, "Since it's an open lesson, maybe I should whine about how many historial details themovie "Elizabeth" got incorrect."
Jueann laughs!