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(This is a discussion on Harper's Tales in a room called 'hell'. This discussion focuses on creating objects and what are craft objects, creating role-playing, cluttering the moo, and promotions -- Jueann, a guide, a helper, a harper on Harper's Tales)

The New Player Lesson is starting. Tonight's topics are Creating Objects, craft items; creating role-playing, promotions, and cluttering the moo. Come and have you questions answered, just type: hell

You go to hell, directly to hell, do not pass Go, and do not collect $200.

Jueann says, "hi, We'll be starting in about 15 mins, Got any questions?"

Reanaa says, "hi jueann"
The daemon speaks in Marron's voice, "l"
Marena blinks slightly and fans herself. "This the class?"
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon eeps.

Jueann nods. "Yeap"
Jueann says, "Make yourself comfortable"

Marena hmms. "Cool..er...hot..er..um..anyways..eh.."
In a caricature of Lylia, the daemon is comfortable, poofing up a couch.
In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon rolls an eye and wafers, "Howdy everyone!"
Lorsalia walks in and towards her little 'Cute Person' throne, sitting on it regally while waiting to see what she can learn. ;)

Marena wonders how to do the 'in the caricature of so-and-so...
Lorsalia ohs, "It's a channel you can get on Marena."
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon haunts Marena.
In a caricature of Lylia, the daemon pouts. "But I'm the cute one!!!"
Marena ahs. "'Kay. Thankee."
Reanaa sits down and pulls out a hand fan.

In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon's really the cute one, but he won't bust their bubble.. ;)
In a caricature of Lylia, the daemon glares. As does her dragon. And her ferret. And her ferret's cousin. And her firelizard's sister. "We're cute!"
Lorsalia shakes her head and finger, "I don't think so! I'm the cutest person on this whole MOO and everyone knows it." *rl self giggles madly at the egotistical lorrie she likes to play*
Reanaa laughs.

In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon chuckles at the cute Lylia and won't bring his fair of alts and 'lizards in to it.. ;)
Marena decides that it's smarter not to get involved in this kind of argument.
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon is kyute. She the cutest daemon ever. :)
In a caricature of Lylia, the daemon brings in her adddooorrabble crafter alt and her pets...

Jueann says, "ok, I have one hard and fast rule. No unnecessary spam unless it pertains to the lesson. Comments, suggestions and questions are greatly appreciated but unnecessary chatter makes for a mess editing job."

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon's Runner neighs. ;> Ahem. Right, lesson.
Lorsalia shuts up then, but stays in her 'Cute Person' throne. ;P
Reanaa says, "what is spam?"
In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon zips his lips..

Jueann says, "ok any questions?"

The daemon speaks in Marron's voice, "Nope."
Reanaa says, "jueann what is spam?"

Jueann says, "Spam is unnecessary scrolling of the screen."

Marena wonders how everyone makes cots, and if you can get into them.
Reanaa says, "oh"

Jueann says, "Marena, we'll get to that in about 10 mins"

Lothar plops himself down a'side Jueann with a nod to one and all..
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon will page you, Marena. :>

Jueann chuckles as she makes herself comfortable on a pile of cushions.

You paged Marron with: Jueann pages, "we will be covering that in the lesson."
From afar, Marron ahs. Okie. :>

Lothar winks at Jueann and relaxes on the cushy cushions.. ;)
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon sits on her pink blow up couch and awaits the lesson. :)

Jueann says, "ok anything else?"

Marena says, "When I try to join the lotto, it says I don't have enough ave. time, and that this means I could also be nuked..how much average time does one have to not have to be nuke-ed?""
Lothar hmms, "You have to average 15 minutes over 4 weeks, if it hasn't changed..." *grin*

Jueann says, "You need at least 15 mins a week or an hour in 4 "

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon thinks it said that just because you're new, Marena.
Lorsalia shakes her head, "Marena's been here for quite some time, Marron."

Jueann says, "Have you looked that the help fl_lottery?"

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon ohs. She's just been away a while. :>
Lothar hmms at Marena, "Over the last 4 weeks, you've only averaged about 7 minutes..."
In a caricature of Dwra, the daemon also has a firelizard question that she should already know; " How active do you have to be for your firelizard to get into the proddy queue?"
Reanaa says, "Jueann talking about fl lottery when is the winner to be announced."

Lorsalia grins, "For the queue, 4 hours a week for 4 weeks. Average of 16 per 4 weeks."
Lothar turns to Dwra, "That is a bit different, It's about 4 hours a week I believe."
In a caricature of Dwra, the daemon grins at Lothar, " Thank you!"

Jueann says, "It's in the help fl_mating files. We do have a very good helpfile system here."
Jueann says, "Reanaa, the winners are usually announced in the evening est."

Lothar agrees with Jueann, "Just about everything is there for the curious.."
Reanaa says, "What are the chances in winning the fl lottery?"
Shanysia grins impishly. "10pm EST, I believe it is. Give or take a few days. And helpfiles are /good/."

Jueann says, "Ok let's get started on @creating. Ok, everyone type: @classes generics"

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon meeples.

***** Editor note: The @classes generics is very very spammy, almost 2 pages of parents. I didn\rquote t want that in the log. This log is long enough without it. I did do a shorter version later . -- Jue ****

Lothar hmms at Reanaa, "It varies with how many people are in it... Really it's impossable to tell..

Jueann says, "Reanaa, that is spam at its best."

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon chuckles. ;>
Lorsalia peers, "Question! Why has the @classes generics suddenly become really long? It's like over a 100 and it used to be only about 50 or so objects. And a lot fo those things we can't even create.
Marena nods in agreement with Jueann.
Shanysia hmms. "Yup, it's definitely grown. Spam... *groan*"
Miako raises an eyebrow, Generic lart?

Jueann says, "Ok this is the list of creatable items on the game. Some you won't be allowed to use as they are wizard owned or crafted owned. They are in the list as a reference guide"

The daemon speaks in Agrajag's voice, "Lorsalia, that's because we're working on updating our generics list. It was out of date for a long time"
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon just quickly wonders, what's a lart?
Shanysia @exams it... "Generic Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool"

Jueann says, "ok now, type: @jagclasses generics"

@jagclasses generics *** This too is very spammy and made the log too long. -- Jue ****

The daemon speaks in Marron's voice, "Doesn't work."
Lorsalia hmms, "Maybe hafta add a feature? Worked for me..."
Lothar notes, "IF it doesn't work, @addfeature #9347

Jueann says, "These are the ones you can use. The numbers with the # is what you need to make something. Those of you wanting to make cots, you would type: @create #570 named My Cot, cot,mcot. Ooops you need to @addfeature first"
Jueann says, "ok got the feature?"

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon noodles.

Jueann says, "Note, you won't be allowed to make a dragon, firelizard, your own wizbit, progbit or room. Those items are very controlled"

Lothar nods and had to fight for his.. ;) *duck*
Shanysia thwaps Lothy-kitty. "Hush, you."
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon giggles. :>

Jueann says, "Ok To create an object you would type: @create #db named Object title, alias, alias, alias For example the object parent for a cot is #570 so to make a cot you would type: @create #570 named My cot, cot, mc, mcot"

Lylia nods. "Yep, no making dragons or firelizards. They might eat you as you code them. But if there is something craft made, how do we tell what craft to look to for one?"

Jueann says, "The aliases are an easier way to use the item without typing the full title all the time"
Jueann says, "Ok we'll get to craft items in a moment."

Arizona says, "so how do you see what the # for an item is?"
Lylia beams. @examine! Or if it's yours, @audit yourself.

Jueann says, "Arizona, did you type: @classes generics?"

Lylia oopses. Thought you meant for a specific one...
Lothar nods to Arizona, "It's right beside the name in the '@classes generics'

Jueann nods to Lylia. "To find out if it had worked, @audit yourself."

Arizona says, "ok"Lorsalia hmms. @s also works to find the number...

Jueann says, "Everything on the game and a #number. that's how the game keeps track of you"
Jueann says, "Any questions so far?"

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon nopes, but hrms and idly points out '@parents ' also works. :>
Lothar nods, "Yes, and so does @d... but inorder for those to work, you either have to be in the room with the item, or know it's #dbref...

Jueann says, "ok craft items. The Herders own most if not all the animal #dbs. You either have to get with them to get a pet or animal. They will set your animal fertile for you or make it not. however, once an animal has been set unfertile (no more babies) it can't be make fertile (unless that's changed)"

Lothar nods in agreement with Jueann, "In fact, the herder policy right now is that /no/ animal's are fertile, you have to recieve special permission to breed animals because of the large population.."

Jueann says, "Most of all craft items, you have to get through the crafts and you should. Its their livihood, respect that. I as a holder wouldn't have the ic knowledge of a smithmaster to make things. "
Jueann says, "I remember someone, an apprentice I think, went through the runner barn and made all the runners in fold by hitting the fertile command"
Lothar chuckles and nods, "Aye, that I remember, what a mess..."

Jueann says, "Let's say the masters weren't pleased."

Shanysia chuckles. "That must've been interesting... 'Where's that dratted stallion?!'"
Lothar rolls and nods, "Not pleased one bit.. ;)

Jueann says, "Anyways, if you want a craft item, its better and more fun to go to the craft and order it. "

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon grins. Better for roleplay, too. :DThe daemon speaks in Agrajag's voice, "and it creates rp, which is always good :)"
Lothar nods, "Yea, then you get to RP contact with someone, more fun than just *poof* and there's a canine...

Jueann says, "I still have the description I bought from the weavers of a Jueann's wedding gown and a ball gown"

Marena heehees..poof!
Lothar ohhs and nods and diggs around in the closet for his wedding tux....

Perisienne pages, "COuld you tell my a few things...What is the parent for wearable objects and what is the Terran equal to a spiderclaw?"

Tolin noddles alot...and I am /so/ bad at descirptions.

Jueann says, "Just because the parent is in the @classes generics, that doesn't mean you should use it. You after all only have so much quota. Why clutter your quota with useless stuff."

Lothar grins and notes, "I'm a good example of that...

You paged Perisienne with: Jueann pages, "spiderclaw/shrimp/crayfish and the wearable object is in the @classes generics"

Bronwyn adds the weaver perspective. "Most people do their own clothing descs, which we have no problem with. However, when people start making clothing and other weaverish items to sell to others, then there's a problem."
Shanysia noddles. "Weavers' descs are also often much better than the normal '5 minute' ones. They have to be approved by a JM or above, correct, Bronwyn? And I find that stuff that I can RP as having doesn't require having an object."
Miako snickers at Lothar.Lothar points at his over quotaness and makes note to do something about it...

kleenex has arrived.
Bronwyn nods. "Right, Shanysia. And ICly, just about everyone on the MOO has a job and thus wouldn't have time to be churning out a dozen stuffed animals or fancy ball gowns unless they were weavers."
In a caricature of Machias, the daemon snickers. Somebody sneezed?
Lothar has the sniffles and uses the kleenex.
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon peers at the kleenex? Heehee.

Jueann says, "The harpers have no problem with people making instruments as long as people realize that certain instruments aren't to be found on Pern"

Tolin says, "And that they understand that quality of a non-harper made instrument would not be as high as a harper-made one."

Jueann says, "Right!"

Lothar hmms, "I guess that makes the Herders the only ones that don't approve of people going around and making their products.. ;)

Jueann says, "The harpers have a very nice code on the instrument parent. You can tell if the instrument is craft made or not"

The daemon speaks in Marron's voice, "They stamp it, right?"
Rand notes the Smiths are the only ones who have access to large amounts of wood and any metals.
Tolin says, "But people could find enough bits and pieces of wood to make somethings...But probably not off the same quality that you could get from a smith."

Jueann says, "Even the harpers go to the smiths for supplies."

Lothar nods, "As do the Herders, to make our Wagons and harnesses...

Jueann says, "Metal is very expensive as is all hardwood. You would have to have a very good ic reason for having in your possession something that would take lots of marks to make. Even marks are made from wood"

Agrajag nods, "It would be easy to go to the woods and grab wood and use a knife to carve something, however smiths are the only ones with the forges to work with metal or the furnaces for glass"
Rand notes that there is the possibility of small wooden objects,(ie the wooden bowl given to Robinton in MasterHarper was crafted by a woman in a small cothold) It is soft wood,.

Jueann says, "There is a difference between hardwood and softwood"

Tolin noddles to Rand.
Rand says, "Also it should be noted that wood is relatively scarce in times of thread because it provides a breeding ground for the thread.""
Shanysia nods and was about to bring up the scarcity of wood as a result of Thread... Beat me to it, Rand.
Rand is a Smith, I should.;-)

Jueann smiles. "ok any questions before we move on?"

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon nopes.

Jueann says, "ok, the next part is about creating role-playing, we've already discussed one way, going to the craft to order something"

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon off-topically thinks the next lesson should have something about the ic connect / disconnect messages. :p

Jueann says, "What are some ways to creating role-playing?"
Jueann smiles at Marron. "ok."

Lothar raises his hand to answer....

Jueann says, "Lothar"

Lothar hmms, "Joining people in /public/ rooms that don't seem to be doing anything and just start to RP..." 'least that's what I'm forced to do sometimes.. ;)
Lothar notes the emphisis on public...
Shanysia tilts her head. "There's the typical 'wait out in a public room', but that doesn't always provide RP. If you're in a room with monitoring puppets, you can perhaps do one pose, and therefore attract attention of those 'listening' through the puppets. There's TP's as well, though those take organizing..."
Tolin asks Lothar..."Can you gibe an example?'

Jueann says, "There's been several dart games in the Mug lately."

Arizona smiles. "Hi, Jalonda."
Jalonda waves.
Marena nods.."My alt was playing in them."
Lothar hmms at Tolin and chuckles, "Ohh, my apprentices just sitting in the Herder Lounge doing nothing, so I just... prod them in to a little RP by catching their attention..
Lothar nods, "Welcome Jalonda..."
Shanysia nods. "Also in MSH's 'phin (tavern). That's the 'job' of Hostesses to encourage RP. It's a /difficult/ job, really it is. As Saejjik could probably tell us."

Jueann says, "I have sat at Green Lake, looking into the water and have people stop by. Ok, here's a question for you, what's the difference between role-playing and angst role-playing?"

Jalonda smiles at Lothar and nods her greeting.
Lothar raises his hand again....? *duck*
Saejjik hides?
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon erms. Is angst sort of fighting and 'mean' roleplay?

Jueann chuckles.

Lothar grins and nods, "Angst roleplaying is when there is a fight, injury, ect.... Something that causes harm to a PC, ect..." That good enough?:)
Marena hmms. "Is it like being all depressed and ranting on about how bad your life is? I think I've had expieriences with that at flit hatchings..
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon hates angst at hatchings. -.-
Shanysia borrows VP's defintion of RP: ANGST: A feeling of anxiety, apprehension, or insecurity. Or in MOO terms, the role-play of undue display of emotionally charged situations involving feeling of anxiety, apprehension, or insecurity.- this is the best definition of angsty RP I could find.
Shanysia errs. "Angsty RP!. Not RP!!!"

Jueann nods. "Angst rp is where the person tries to draw attention to himself through negitive role-playing. Angst happens and can be fun to do but its a thin line. Angst can cause people to power-play against another player.

Lothar nods, "And power-play is a /BIG/ no no....
Saejjik noodles.
Tolin says, "But what make angsty RP become bad RP?"
Lothar hmms, "When it crosses that fine line in to Power-playing...

Jueann says, "Angst role-playing like suicide or rape will *not* be tolerated on this moo."

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon hates powerplay. Ick. I had angsty roleplay once, everyone was sort of being mean to eachother. It was sort of fun, but kind of depressive. :P
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon beeps. Family moo. :>
Lothar nods to Jueann...
Shanysia grins. "I can answer this one. The over-use of angst to a point where it becomes either a.) frightening or b.) seriously annoying. For example, a child's history where the child was beaten."
Lothar had a run in with the Suicide attempte once else Alt...

Jueann says, "Power-playing is when you force another player into an action or a reaction they haven't given permission for."

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon icks at Shanysia. I hate that type of history. =/
Saejjik agrees with Marron.

Jueann says, "People have argued that the books, this is acceptable. But *not* on this game. We have to follow decency laws of Earth and the FCC. This is why we don't allow it. People come here to escape fro rela life. And they don't what to deal with violent issues."

Shanysia hmms and nods. "It's a good example; I myself, when I first joined a MOO, used that history for my kidlet character. However, I've outgrown it, I hope." ^.^
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon swoons. Jueann, you know out dream of escaping. ;>
Saejjik onces had a history somewhat like that...I rewrote it though after several comments...
The daemon speaks in Marron's voice, "out=our. :P"
Lothar nods, "It's also a family MOO, we don't know the ages of the people on the other ends, we wouldn't want our kids exposed to some of the angst RPed stuff..

Jueann says, "right. I have role-played drunkeness, eating, sleeping, swimming, all kinds of silliness. Even a food fight or two. I even did a pancake eating contest. We ended at 400+ pancakes."

Lothar chuckles at Jueann and with holds a comment.... ;)
Saejjik says, "That'sa /whole/ lotta pancakes/"

Jueann says, "you can role-play everything you want but in the public rooms, you have to keep it clean."

In a caricature of Marron, the daemon noddles.
Lothar nods...

Jueann says, "What you do in private rooms, we have no control over."

Shanysia glances at Jueann's waistline, impish mischief present in that stare. "Gained a bit of weight?" ** sorry, couldn't resist **
Lothar might have thought it, but didn't say it.. ;) *duck*

Jueann chuckles at Shanysia, "Hey I only made them, it was for 3 guys. They betted on who could eat the most."

Lothar wonders who got the left overs....

Jueann says, "No one, I ran out of flour"

Saejjik says, "If there were leftovers I dunno how you made all of dem."
Lothar grins and nods...

Jueann says, "Anyways, any questions? We need to move on"

Saejjik raises her hand...

Jueann says, "yes?"

Saejjik says, "What kind of pancakes were they?"

Jueann chuckles. "The best."
Jueann says, "Ok, Picking up after yourself."

Saejjik grins. Kewl.
Shanysia hauls out her OOC mallet and baps Saejjik. The mallet goes *squeak*. "Hmm... picked up the plastic one..."
Lothar hmms and agrees, "Jueann's well known for her pancakes.. Among other things...

Jueann says, "Most areas don't mind if you decide to have a party, don't leave your items in public rooms. "

Saejjik whews.

Jueann says, "Its very bad when you walk into a room and see 2 or more lines of stuff in the room. Plus, some things were made that should've not been made or not taken from a private room"

Shanysia nods. Sometimes, oddly enough, you get, of all things, /snow/ sculptures in Ista. Uhm, somehow, I don't think there'd be such a thing in Ista of all places.

Jueann says, "Area leaders created those rooms for fun and role-playing but new players epecially those that never moo'd or come from a mud background will pick things up."

Reanaa says, "hi again"
Lothar nods, "And that's how things grow legs and walk away..." :)
Saejjik wonders what a mud is?
The daemon speaks in Marron's voice, "Like a moo.. kind of."
Lothar nods to Saejjik, "Multi-User Dungon.. Hack and slash..."
Lothar adds, "AD&D Like.."
Marena wonders what category causing your alt to collapse for no apparent reason falls into.
Jalonda says, "Lot of fighting and quests and stuff. Yuck."
Lothar bows to Reanaa and Gold..

Jueann says, "Ista Hold has a @junk verb on most of its public rooms, so if your stff is in the junk yard that means it was left someplace it shouldn't have been."

Reanaa sits on a pillow she brought from her cot.
Saejjik eeks and wishes she diddn't know.
Gold_Guest says, "whoa..."

Jueann says, "hi gold"

Gold_Guest says, "er, hi.""
Saejjik wavies to Goldie!!!
Jalonda waves to the newbie.
Gold_Guest wave
Reanaa says, "HI gold"
Gold_Guest hm...
Lothar notes, "If you have any questions Gold, feel free to ask..."

Jueann says, "Anyways, if you see something in a public room, don't take it. It don't belong to you. But on the same token, you shouldn't have left it there in the first place"

Jueann says, "yes Gold, this is a new player lesson"

Saejjik liks nice, safe Moos (someone has got to find that cow!)
Lothar nods to Jueann, "Yes Mommy...
Gold_Guest is confuzzed.

Jueann says, "Any questions so far? Gold, what are you confused about?"

The daemon speaks in Marron's voice, "Too much spam?"
Gold_Guest jumps
Shanysia giggles impsihly and *squeaks* Lothar. "Hush."
Jalonda says, ""Hi, Elana.""
Gold_Guest says, "geezus, people materializing out of nowhere..."
Jalonda says, "aaugh!"
Lothar's squeaked, "*SQUEE*"
Gold_Guest says, "huh?"

Jueann says, "That's the room entrance message"

Gold_Guest blinks.

Jueann says, "ok next and last item"

Elana says, "heLLO."
Gold_Guest OW Jalonda says, "Don't worry. We don't bite. At least I don't."
Lothar licks his lips, "Nah, I don't bite..."
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon peers?

Jueann says, "Please if doesn't pertain to the lesson"

Reanaa says, "Jueann, i missed if you answered this quetion or not but can you go into your cot?"
Lothar nods to Reanaa, "Yes, type 'enter '

Jueann says, "Reanaa, type enter rcot"

The daemon speaks in Marron's voice, "'enter ' to exi, 'out'."
Reanaa says, "ok"

Jueann says, "Promotion of oneself without being a pest"
Jueann says, "Promotion is a craft thing. Some people can be very power-hungry and think that if they put in the time, they can get promoted. Wrong answer."
Jueann says, "Promotion is a craft matter and each craft has its own agenda for promotion. bugging the PTB's isn't going to get yourself promoted. In fact, it'll do the opposite"

Saejjik noodles. Isn't it like in the Harper tirlogy when Menolly got promoted really fast because of her skill not how long she was there?

Jueann says, "Menolly was apprenticed outside the craft for turns under petiron only she didn't know it"

Shanysia nods. "Anyway, there's not that much importance to being promoted... unless you /really/ want to help your Craft. And then, you're not likely to be that much of a newbie."
Agrajag says, "What's PTB stand for?"
Lothar nods, "Right, Said Craft's staff will only promote you if you are active, and know your craft material, and that's only part of the picture..
Lothar notes, "People that Be..'

Jueann says, "Being made a staff member means you are willing to do the work and not for the title alone (PTB=Powers That Be)"

Reanaa appologises for interupting but..."jueann the java script sample on harper tales can you not go every where."
Reanaa says, "sorry, hafta ask"

Jueann says, "Reanaaa, let me finish this and someone can help you"

Reanaa says, "ok"
Reanaa says, "yes"

Lothar pages, "Takes Reanaa under his wing.. So to speak.."

Shanysia nods. "Being promoted to Journeyman, in most crafts, adds the responsibility of Staffing. Staffing is something that is considered by many to be an honor, and perhaps it is such, but it's an honor that requires work."

Jueann says, "Promotion is the same way. You must be willing to do the work, help teach, run the craft, be willing to help new apprentices. To get promoted, you must be able to go through the ropes of apprenticeship, do what is required and not whine about it. Those that are journeyman and above look at how mature you are."

Lothar nods, "Aye, It /is/ an honor, but an honor that you must work for, and at...

From afar, Shanysia chuckles. If you feel that I'm treading on your toes, please tell me and I'll stop.
You paged Shanysia with: Jueann pages, "all comments are welcome"

Saejjik noodles. Time, deticatcation, and a bunch of other goodies.
Lothar nods in agreement...
Tolin says, "One thing that gets tiresome is to log on to be greeted not with hi..hello..or anything like that but...Hey Tol, can I have a lesson?"
Saejjik eeks. You're greeted like that?
Lothar nods, "Yes, that quickly scares People away from teaching, and greatly reduces the number of classes offered...
Saejjik snugs all that go through that.
Lothar is snugged...

Tolin just doesn't teach when that happens.
Shanysia chuckles. "That's the difference between IC and OOC staff. In my case, for example, I wouldn't have to teach lessons. And, yes, being greeted when I log on with stuff like 'I want to join the Weyr', though it is a responsibility I carry, is somewhat annoying. An example of what I do like to hear, however, is 'Could you perhaps come out and RP with me? I'm considering joining the Weyr."
Saejjik oo's good way to get on someone's good side. **takes notes**
Shanysia laughs.

Jueann nods. Anything else?
Jueann says, "This is logged and I'll have it posed on my website in a few days"

Saejjik oo's and ahhs.
Lothar nods and notes, "If any questions surface later, feel free to page myself or a Guide '@guides' and we'll gladly help you..."

From afar, Lothar wonders who's incharge of the guides.. "I need to apply again I assume.. ;)

Elana says, "Gladly?"
Elana smiles

You paged Lothar with: Jueann pages, "there's a guide application and Fyren's in charge"

From afar, Lothar chuckles, "Some things never change.. *grin* I'll send it in again.. ;)

Shanysia grins. "Even staffers often help. Oh yes, that's what I intended to ask. Jueann, do you mind if the staffers help new players with stuff that normally guides deal with? I know that some MOO's are touchy about who does what, so I thought I'd make sure."
Reanaa shuffles a bit
Lothar bows to one and all, takes Reanaa's hand leading her away, and goes off to do his good deed for the day....

Jueann says, "Staffers are suppose to help new players in their area. That's why they are staffers"

Shanysia chuckles and bows, "Domo arigato, Jueann-sama."

Jueann says, "There are 1400+ people on this game, you think the guides will mind if you help? What do you think?"

In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon chuckles, "Not one bit..? :)

Jueann says, "They do mind if you log on as a guest in the Bp and start helping people. The Birthplace is the last place a guide needs your help, though."

Saejjik whoah...That is a /lot/ of characters.
Shanysia grins. "As I said, there are some places which are touchy. Therefore, I made sure /officially/. And I know about that..."

Jueann says, "Too many people answering questions or giving help in the birthplace is confusing. And your help sometimes isn't very appreciative by the guides. I know I've had to page people to be quiet"
Jueann says, "But in the game itself. YES! Help. The guides are always there or know if a person needs help unless they are paged by specific questions"
Jueann says, "oops are/aren't"

In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon chuckles, "The Omnipotent Omnipresent GUides.. Ohh.. ;)

Jueann says, "Anything else?"

Shanysia chuckles. "Very well. Thanks, Jueann, for the lesson; I learned some new things."
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon shakes her head.
Saejjik says, "did I miss anything?"
In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon bows to Jueann, "Thanx for the Lesson, I learned much...."

The daemon speaks in Shirgall's voice, "Floggings will continue until morale improves."
Jueann says, "no Saejjik"

In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon winks and iggles(TM)...
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon smiles and snugs. Thankie for the lesson!
In a caricature of Marron, the daemon's face disappears from the daemon.
Jueann chuckles at Shirgall

In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon iggles(TM) at Sirgall...
In a caricature of Agrajag, the daemon puts on his flogging-proof outfit :)
In a caricature of Lothar, the daemon jumps in with Jag...


*** Thus ends another log in the hot place at Harpers Tale. *****



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