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Debunking Christians on Morality

Whenever I am having an argument with many christians they always come up with statements like "If you don't believe in god, then what is keeping you from killing, lying, stealing?" And statements like "If you don't think that there is a god, how do you know what is right and what is wrong?" I even have a christian ending a conversation by saying "If you are right, then there is no difference between hitler and you!"

I've never bother with the morality question until now. Christians believe that if anyone does not believe in their god or be in their religion, then that means that person have no morals and that person are a sick, bad person.

On this page, I am going to tell you why I do not agree with the christians idea of morality.

1.) Morality is the basis we need in order to reproduce and survive. If I went around slaughtering people like Adolf Hitler did with the Jews back in WWII. Chances are, I would become a target for those that want to kill me, and then they become targets, and we'll all just end up killing each other. That in itself is just common sense that doesn't require believing in myths.

2.) I fail to see why we need to based our life on religious scriptures such as the holy bible to understand morality. The bible have many contradictions in it. I don't see how it makes since for someone to learn about morals from a book that says "Thou shalt not kill" in one place and in another it says god killing a nation full of men, women, children, and animals (Joshua 6:21). Talking about sending mixed messages.

3.) Most Christians argue that atheists and other non-chrstians (like wiccans, satanist, buddhist, muslims, etc.) have subjective morals, meaning that they can change their moral values at anytime and decide to go out and be immoral like hurting other people etc. Here is why I think this is wrong. If atheists and other religious people that are non-christians thought about their moral values really hard and always follow their moral values, then their morals cannot be subjective to change depending on the situation. If christians based their life on religious scriptures that is contradictory and actually supports what many intelligent people would consider immoral acts like incest, rape, killing, etc. at the same time that is doesn't allow it, then their moral code is subjective to change as well.

4.) Christians claim that the only reason that atheist and other non-christians are having morals because they have some kind of net gain that they want out of life. I will show you a example of why this is not so.

Say that there are 2 people (we'll call them Mark and Tom), and some guy offered them 1,000 dollars to help some old lady cross the street without getting hit by some cars. Let's just say that Mark took him to that guy's offer and decided to help that lady. However, Tom decided not to take that guy to his offer and help that lady anyway because she cannot get across the street by herself and she risk getting run over by passing vehicles. The point to this story is, who is the moral person in this example? I normally think that they both would be, but if Mark said that he wouldn't have never help that lady if someone didn't offer him 1,000 dollars, then I would think that Tom would be the actually moral person, because he help the fellow human being without any bribe of any kind to depend on. He depended on his own instinct.

That is the same thing with christianity. It seems to me that the reason why they have morals in there life is because as soon as they die, their souls are transported to a place called heaven (the net gain), where good people live at. Since they do not want to disobey their god and end up in a place full of bad people and where fire is burning for eternity called hell, they choose to obey their god and follow his rules. Even if that means this god wanted them to kill someone and be immoral, you still have to do what he say or burn in hellfire for eternity.

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