According to most scientific theories, the universe was not created, it have always been here. If that is the case, then why would there be a "designer" if the universe was always here? As a matter of fact (in my opinion) how can the universe can even be created in the first place?
If the universe is too complex to have existed on it's own, and complexity requires a designer, then where did the christian god (the creator/designer) come from? Assuming that the creator is more complex than it's creations (and the fact that creationist said that complexity requires a designer) then someone or something must have created god, and that person or thing must have been created by someone, and so on.
There is no substantial evidence that the universe is or was design to begin with, regardless of whether it is complex or not.
Most christians and creationist believe that their creator exist out of time and space. However, there is also no substantial evidence of there being a "out of time and space". Also, that still doesn't explain how this god was created if he is more complex than his creations and providing that complexity requires a desiger.
Most creationist believe in the "First Cause" explanation. Meaning that they really do strongly believe that the universe couldn't of have came into being on it's own. Therfore, there must be a first cause that created the universe, and that first cause is their deity. Now here is where I have a problem with this, if the universe haven't came to being on it's own, then why is it more likely that this god of their's have came into being on it's own. They don't believe that the "cause and effect" routine applies to their god, so why does it apply to the universe (or any thing else as a matter of fact).
Also, if there was a cause and effect or first cause involve in the creation of the universe, then why does it have to be some supernatural being that created it? Why not some basic principals of chemistry or physics? Obviously most creationist don't know what "virtual particles" means.
