Joanna:  Those girls don’t know what they're talking about

 Josh:  What girls?

 Joanna:  The Naked Aggression chick and such.

 Josh:  Oh, the ones trying to go against you?

 Joanna:  Yeah.

 Josh:  I hate when people compare things but sometimes it just seems like the easiest thing to do, so I guess your site goes up there with Suicide Girls, but they're very different.  First off, what made you decide to put the musical aspect in the midst of it all?

 Joanna:  We wanted to do something original... there are too many porn sites on the internet with the same thing. Also, music has always been a huge part of our lives, and we just know, that so many people in to hardcore are secretly in to porn.  I also think that there are a lot of shitty band interviews out there. People put kids in bands on such a pedestal and thus are scared to ask them personal questions.  I think that asking people in bands about there personal lives brings everyone on the same level, and plus, it's interesting.  

 Josh:  Hey, I do good band interviews. Take it back!

 Joanna:  I wasn’t talking about you, you jerk! I mean in general.  I also wanted to help promote smaller bands.  You put a small band on the same website with naked girls, and so many more people will know who they are.

 Josh:  But you talk to a lot of bigger bands.

 Joanna:  Yeah, we do, but we also have smaller bands. I try to get a good collection.  I like interviewing bigger bands because it penetrates (duh... hahahahaha... ok anyways) the bubble sometimes created around them. 

 Josh:  Is it harder from the standpoint of not being just a music-based site? I tried to think about it, and I figure if anything it'd be an advantage because then they'd kind of know what they were in for, as far as what you were asking them.

 Joanna:  Hahaha.  What the hell are you asking me?

 Josh:  Plain out, do people give you weird looks when you want to interview them and they say "what do you do" and you tell them?

 Joanna:  Hahahahaha.  Well, I get mixed results.

 Josh:  But see, I was trying to say that maybe it'd help because then they'd be more aware of the questions you'd ask, they wouldn't be so surprised when you wanted to start talking about masturbation.

 Joanna:  I'll give you a typical answer.

"I'd like to know if I could interview you guys for my website"

"Yo. Is it a porn site?"

"Yeah. Actually it is"

And then I tell them about the website, and then they'll get the other people in the band and be like "get this... she wants us to be on her porno site".

 Josh:  but they don't ask me that.  Is it because you're a girl?

 Joanna:  It might be- I have no idea why.  Maybe I just give off that vibe? But really, every band is different. I’ve had a few bands turn me down... and that's cool, I don't mind.  From Autumn To Ashes like came up to me and asked me to interview them... and that was totally cool.

 Josh:  Who turned you down?

 Joanna:  Black Widows.  Thursday.

 Josh:  I have no clue who Black Widows are, and you know what, now I never will... because they turned you down!

 Joanna:  hahahahaha

 Josh:  Thursday doesn't need us any more, they're on AP now.

 Joanna:  Um. I was actually scared of asking Strike Anywhere.  AFI was very skeptical.

 Yeah. See, usually I say "porn site" and the band is like way in to the idea... for the most part... they get really excited.  I have no qualms with getting in to my pro-porn politics, but usually I don’t have to. With Strike Anywhere, and AFI, I had to explain to them why I totally believe in what I am doing.

 Josh:  Is it mostly the politics of it when they turn you down though? (morals, ethics or whatever)

 Joanna:  Yeah.  Some people are really anti-porn, or they are scared it will ruin their image, or it will affect their fan base or whatever.  Or in some cases "their manager won't allow it".

 Josh:  But can I just say that I respect the hell out of you for what you do because it's so much harder for females to interview bands than males from best I hear, and then it seems like you have it one step harder.

 Joanna:  Yeah, you know I was so scared of doing interviews at first.  I remember me and Chummy went to interview Kill Your Idols, and I seriously asked like 2 questions... I was petrified.  I have no idea why.

 Josh:  You know what you should do, is tell bands you'll interview them for NCA, then put them up on your site like, "Ha, I got ya!"

 Joanna:  Hahahahaha.  They’d be like "what does masturbation have to do with anarchy".  yea. So I remember we had a date scheduled to interview Blind Society, and Chummy couldn't make it... I was so scared. I went with just Mitch... and he doesn't really doesn't talk.   And I don't know... I just did it. And it was so much fun...I always walk away from interviews with so much more respect for the band. 

 Josh:  Can we talk about exclusiveness? Because I look at other sites- not naming names- and it seems like there's just a thousand girls to choose from.  Don’t you think that kind of takes something away from it all?

 Joanna:  Are you saying that it's good we have less girls? Or are you talking about the selection process?

 Josh:  I'm saying it's good you have less because it seems like you don't just put any pair of tits on your site.

 Joanna:  Because at the rate we are going, we have a new girl every 2 weeks or so, so in a few months... will you lump us in with other sites?

 Josh:  Yeah, but they'll still have like, thousands of more girls than you.

 Joanna:  That’s just because they started earlier...  I’m not quite sure how to answer this question.

 Josh:  But seriously, they add like, 500 girls every day.

 Joanna:  I think we have good pictures.  And we are very strict about making sure girls send us good quality pictures, if our photographer doesn't take them.

 Josh:  I do too.  But what does my opinion really matter?

 Joanna:  I think your opinion matters.

 Josh:  Nah.

 Joanna:  I think our photographer knows how to find the most flattering aspects of our models.  But when models are from far away- they send us our pictures.

 Josh:  Will you openly tell people that it's punk rock porn though, or use the words punk and rock in the description at all?

 Joanna:  I guess I do.  I think we're a punk rock website.  I don’t know what "punk porn" is, but we're a punk rock website.

 Josh:  Cause, uh, some people have words like punk, emo and goth all over the top of their sites, then say "well, just because they have tattoos and piercings, we don't really think our models are punk".

 Joanna:  Seriously. We're three kids in their mid 20's, without an insane amount of money, and for christ sake, who the hell else promotes their porn site by going to shows and handing out flyers, and giving out tee-shirts?  Its real d.i.y. I think...  I mean, yea, our girls have a certain aesthetic, because that's what we find attractive.  I've gone to so many shows in different states and shit just to hand out fliers and get the word out. I got fired from my waitressing job because my car broke down on the way home from Hell Fest.  Granted, I would be going to shows with or without the website... but I wouldn't make such concerted efforts to go to shows so far away.

 Josh:  But if you're truly d.i.y. and punk, you wouldn't charge.

 Joanna:  Well, then we'd be losing money.  Is that punk? Donating porn?

 Josh:  Depends on if it's for me or not and if it involves monkeys.

 Joanna:  Hmmm. Well, there are no monkeys involved, so I guess we are just dirty capitalists, like the chick in Naked Aggression said.

 Josh:  What do you think about people who say that its not very punk rock?

 Joanna:  I can't say they're wrong, because punk rock isn't a definitive term. There is no punk guru who can tell us whether we are truly punk or not... punk rock is a scene, and a very influential scene that can totally shape someone if they spend enough time in it... from my experience with punk, and what I learned from growing up in the scene (I include Mitch and Chummy in this as well), I think what we are doing is totally punk Like Kathleen Hannah, a very "punk rock" girl... why is she a punk icon? Because she did what she wanted. She was obnoxious, she was powerful, and she was sexy, in her Bikini Kill days at least.

 Josh:  Someone said that the idea of porn is stupid because they see it as a means of masturbation and if she wants sex she'll go out and get it.  But that's so much different for girls than guys.  I just wanted to complain about that, dammit.

 Joanna:  That’s a horrible argument.  Also, from a feminist standpoint , porn as an industry sells sexual fantasy, and I feel that is imperative.   Let’s take for example, the Middle Ages, where sex for anything but procreation was literally "illegal", women were treated like shit. They were less then human in literature, in art (etc)... it was so unhealthy...they couldn't be educated... so many women were prostitutes because it was the highest paying job they could get.  And that I learned in my Chaucer class. So I know I'm right.

 Josh:  Sex is making a come back though.

 Joanna:  Yes. Sex is making a comeback.

 Josh:  I mean it's making a comeback in a musical sense because it seems like more bands are open about it and have songs about it, that kind of stuff.

 Joanna:  Guys will always ogle at girls ... forever. I live in a college town, I see it all the time. Even in the most random places... I've been hit on at the computer lab, the library, (etc)...  It's like by modeling, I'm like "you wanna fucking stare... stare away...I'm beautiful... eat it"

 Josh:  Eat it?

 Joanna:  Well sex and rock and roll have always gone hand in hand.

 Josh:  Print it out and eat it?

 Joanna:  Yeah. Eat it.

 Josh:  Yeah, but it's less reading between the lines now.  It’s more straight out there.

 Joanna:  Particularly because we are in a scene where everyone is between the age of like... um... 16- 30.  Our hormones are racing.

 Josh:  Yeah, after you hit 30 you're out!

 Joanna:  No. That’s not true.

 Josh:  Well, I will probably be since everyone wants me out now.

 Joanna:  Why?

 Josh:  Who knows, I can't figure out people for the life of me.

 Joanna:  Nacho Cheese, you're fucking nuts!

 Josh:  Yeah, well... life does that to you.

 Joanna:  Who gives a shit. Tell them to eat it.

 Josh:  You like saying that don't you?

 Joanna:  Yes I do. I like to eat

 Josh:  Can I make the title huge like, "Joanna says EAT IT"?

 Joanna:  No. Please don’t.  That’s stupid.

 Josh:  Dang.  It's funny to me.

 Joanna:  Man, do whatever you think you should do to make me look wonderful.

=)  Somehow I don’t think that is so conducive... but whatever.

 Josh:  I don't have to do anything to make you look wonderful.

 Joanna:  Awwww, man, thanks.

 Josh:  See, I'm a good interviewer because I kiss ass!

 Joanna:  Ok. Well can I talk about women and porn more.

 Josh:  That's not really what makes someone good though, and I don't.  So since you seem to be able to get rather attractive women to take off their clothes for you, can you share some secrets on how one would go about getting them to do so?

 Joanna:  No

 Josh:  No one ever seems to want to.  Fine.

 Joanna:  Do you have more questions?

 Josh:  Actually, people ask me (I'm not sure why) how come there aren't any sites with punk looking guys.  Why aren't there?

 Joanna:  Because burning boys is not up yet.

 JoshB why do you think it took so long for someone to say, "hey, this might be a good idea no one's done yet"?

 Joanna:  I don't know. When we thought of interviewing bands, we thought the same thing.

 Josh:  So you need to take it one step further then.

 Joanna:  Ok.

 Josh:  You know what's one step further?

 Joanna:  What?  Interviewing monkeys?

Josh:  No, I've done that.  Plus, I don't do interviews.  Naked mosh pits.

 Joanna:  The proper term for that is "orgy".

 Josh:  Unless it's in front of a band and dirty. 

 Joanna:  Darling, this is a strange interview.

 Josh:  you're a strange interview!

 Joanna:  =(

 Josh:  Sorry, I just like taking stuff people say and turning it against them.

 Joanna:  Ok. Well any more questions?  Ask me anything. I like when people ask me things.

 Josh:  When will you settle down from this rock'n'roll life and marry me?

 Joanna:  16 years. 

 Josh:  To the day?

 Joanna:  Yes. To the day.  Find me in 16 years, and it's on.

 Josh:  I'm going to hold you to that.

 Joanna:  All right dude.

 Josh:  And I might just hold you any way.

 Joanna:  That’s sweet.

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