WORKED NON-UNION IN RELATED TRADES CARPENTRY, CEMENT
C.C.C. 2926 and 912 Related Trades of Construction Industry Carpenters Southern California, for Pension Credits from Carpenters Southern California Administrative Corporation Eligibility Claims Pension. CARPENTRY RELATED TRADES "6 mouths 1940".
BETWEEN C.C. C. AND CALIFORNIA STATE GUARD WORKED IN RELATED TRADES
SOME UNION AND SOME NON UNION.
California State Guard
HARD - BALL - 1 INFORMATION ON CALIFORNIA STATE GUARD 1941 12-7-41 to 7-42.
https://www.angelfire.com/fl2/webpage1/hardball.html PAGE 1 & 2 "THE BAYONET & ITS USES ".
California State Guard "Active December 7th 1941 at 10: AM
Was on duty Van Nuys, CA State Guard Armory
Given a rifle told to guard said Armory, one hour latter rifle confiscated given a broom.
Compairing my next six months to this broom, the following events took place which I built into my
own personal code of conduct up to and including my 77th birthday 10-3-2000.
August 1942 went to work for the firm of Gladding McBean, work consisted of carpenter maintenance, fixing doors, windows, screens and repair all of the rolling stock, and all of the wooden pallets. Did this at two of the plants. And was told if an accident happened would have to help clean the furnaces all had to do this as one to keep the quota up.
December 11-1942, Went into the Army Active Service, Was Honorably Discharged November 21st
1945. HARD-BALL 1 PAGE 2 & 3 https://www.angelfire.com/fl2/webpage1/hardball.html More detail on Military, Battleship, Aircraft Carrier, All Nine Yards on WEB-SITE of the "CENTER",
www.Battlefieldpensions.com https://www.angelfire.com/webpage1/union.html 1945 back to work 12-1945, Gladding McBean as a maintence carpenter pay no good benefits bad went out to better paying job by the end of year 1945. ( https://www.angelfire.com/fl2/webpage1/page2.html) .
1946 = 1 year Credit given by the Carpenters Southern California Pension Trust Fund Plan, because of these RELATED TRADES who were our employers made us sign to have money taken out of our pay checks before we received our pay checks and paid to these Union Related Trades of the Carpenters.
In Southern California. Also this time frame Carpenters 1958 back received Non-Union Pension PAST SERVICE CREDIT CARPENTERS SOUTHERN CALIFORNA. Paid ME, ELVIN F. SCOTT, and Others as PARTICIPANT'S PENSION CREDITS FOR THESE TIME FRAMES 1959 BACK.
1947 = 1 quarter Credit Pension keep in mine same rules as for pension credits year 1946, denied Pension Credits for Union Non-Union and Related Trades of the Carpenters, by theTrust saying records destroyed by fire, Mr. Heil, head of the District Council of the Carpenters admitted that they did collect monies from our employers in these time frames, FOR OUR UNION DUES. Keep in mine changed MY PENSION CREDITS TIME AFTER TIME the PAST also FUTURE YEARS.
1958 = 2 Quarters Same as above.
Years 1949, a big 0 for pension credits Carpenters Southern California for Elvin F. Scott , who was In the Carpenters Union Southern California and was suspended May 1949, Non-Union from this date to July 1953.
1949= 0 = Union-Non-Union
1950 = 0 = Non-Union
1951 = 1 = Year Credit Non-Union
1952 = 1 = Year Credit Non-Union
1953 = 0 = Union Non-Union
All five of these Overseas years more than enough for every year pension credit, for Elvin F. Scott.
(BASED ON 54 HRS A WEEK, 9 HRS A DAY, 6 DAYS A WEEK )
ALSO FROM CERTIFICATION OF EXTRACTS FROM MY SOCIAL SECURITY RECORDS FROM JULY 1953 YOU WILL FIND MORE HOURS FOR YEAR 1953, WORK CARPENTER UNION IN SOUTHERN CALIFORINA and NON UNION. "5 FULL YEARS DUE" .
AS IT STANDS up to DATE OF SEPTEMBER 1, 2000, THEY HAVE PAID ME, EVERY MONTH WHEN I WAS NON-UNION. (FOR YEARS ( 1951) ( 1952). NON-UNION. ALSO NOT PAID FOR YEAR ( NON UNION 195 0). ( UNION AND NON UNION YEARS 1949 AND 1953 NOT PAID because of work not performed in the jurisdiction SO. CA..
ON THE RECORD: PAGE 41, OF MY APPEALS CARPENTERS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
This starts about the middle of page 41:
The Chairman: Back on the record.
Mr. Carroll: The issue, I believe, is properly state in the summary, Mr. Chairman, namely, whether Mr. Scott is entitled to pension credit during the years 1949 to 1953 based on his work in the South Seas for Vinnell Construction Company, given the fact that, of course, that work was performed outside the jurisdiction of the 11 Southern California counties. And if you feel that he's not entitled to that, then the appropriate motion would be to deny the appeal. Of course, otherwise you would grant it. The Chairman: Is there a motion? Mr. Heil: Can I ask a question of staff before I make a motion. The Chairman: Yes. Mr. Heil: From the staff, at anytime to any of the
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Staff's knowledge has the pension trust given credit for work performed outside of the 11 southern counties for construction firms either of this nature or any other nature?
MR. LOPEZ: THE PLAN CLEARLY STATES THAT PAST SERVICE CREDIT IS PROVIDED FOR CONSTRUCTION WORK IN THE JURISDICTION OF THE PLAN OF THE 11 SOUTHERN COUNTIES, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE HAS FOLLOWED THAT CRITERION AND NOT GRANTED PAST SERVICE TIME FOR WORK PERFORMED OUTSIDE THE 11 SOUTHERN COUNTIES.
The Chairman: Mr. Noneman, didn't you refer to a specific paragraph in the plan? Mr. Noneman: Yes. That's contained in Article V1, Section 1 (a ) of the pension plan, Mr. Chairman: Is that perfectly clear in that regard? Mr. Noneman: Yes, I believe so. Mr. Chairman: Does that answer your question? Mr. Heil: Yes. Thank you. With that, I would make a motion with regards to Vinnell Construction time, the period of '49 through '53, work performed outside the 11 southern counties, that we do not grant the pension credit for that period of time. Mr. Holder: Second. The Chairman: On the question, those in favor signify by saying aye. (Aye. Unanimous THE CHAIRMAN: Opposed? Motion carried.
In as much as there is additional evidence to place before all concerned in year 2000, there is a substantial question regarding the disallowance of pension credits for my overseas employment in the years 1949-1953. Additional documentation has been gathered and additional testimony from others regarding the nature of my employment have come to my attention that will shed some day light on years 1947, 1948, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957 and 1958 past service time. Future Service time from year 1959 through year 1984. In fact for every year denied me by any one. I Mr. El vin F. Scott, ask that under formal direct examination, as well as the additional documentation I have received since my last hearing be placed on a agenda to be conducted by a court or courts not only for me, but all the others that come under these same problem or problems. (YOUR HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED).
On Statement of Earnings, Social Security Records for Elvin F. Scott, 1951 and 1952 , Employer 95-1504164 Stanley Mclay Industrial Market Research Assoc 3445 w 8th Street Los Angeles CA. 90005.
(Pay attention to this address,) You will see they gave me, my pension credit for these two years as this is in the 11 Southern Counties. Keep in mine, the other 3 years they denied me Same Company. Not based on my Social Security earnings record. Not based on my working for this same outfit. (KEEP IN MINE, THESE TWO YEARS WERE NON-UNION) 1951-1952. (ALSO INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE WAS WATING AT THE LANDING TO COLLECT YOUR TAXES REASON THEY DID NOT ALLOW SOUTH SEA TO BE YOUR PERMENET ADDRESS. I PAID MY TAXES AS I WAS TOLD MY ADDRESS WAS IN THE AREA OF THE CARPENTERS PENSION TRUST IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IN THESE TIME FRAMES.
"CHECK PAGE 2 FOR MORE INFORMATION"
Page 39 of appeals hearing. people attesting to the facts allowed by Mr. Scott that he did work for Agges in all of those years, '58, '59, and '60. What do we do with that evidence? The Chairman: We have addressed ourselves to that, I believe, C. V., in fact that there is no evidence that shows that Aggas paid him during those years. He may have been employed by Aggas and farmed out to various other places. Mr. Holder: All right, I'll Second it. Mr. Heil: I think further, Mr. Chairman, that it should be noted probably for the record That in the affidavits that were presented by various people in regards to the times and periods that he worked there's quite a bit of conflict in those affidavits that are presented by those persons and notarized that do not really bear out the true facts, as I see it, in this case. The Chair man: Well, in one case the appellant even stated today that the man didn't know what he was doing, so the credibility of these affidavits is very questionable. Mr. Heil: That's right. The Chairman: On the question, all those in favor signify by saying aye. (Aye, unanimously.) The Chairman: Opposed? Motion carried. Do you want to go on, Mr. Carroll, and pick up now issue number two. MR. CARROLL: Yes, Mr. Chairman. In hoping that there's PAGE 41 & 42 OF MY APPEALS HEARING CARPENTERS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
Mr. Heil: Has the staff checked the records and found that Margate was not signatory in 1966 and did not become signatory until the year 1968? MS. Barkinge: yes. MR. Heil : Thank you The Chairman: On the Question, those in favor signify by saying aye. (Aye, unanimously.) The Chairman: Opposed? Motion carried. (Discussion off the record.) The Chairman: Back on the record.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I Hereby swear and affirm that the following are factual: Elvin Scott was a member of Carpenters Local Union in 1966. As a member of local 1062 he was dispatched to Walter Scholtz Construction Company on March 28, 1966. This is indicated by a work referral signed by Robert Flett a Business Representative of Local Union 1062. Also Elvin Scott was dispatched for the second time by Robert Flett on a work referral dated April 5, 1966. The project was known as University Village on Stork Road, Goleta, Ca. This not allowed.
As a Business Representative of Local 1062, Santa Barbara, Ca, in February 1966, I Elmer W. Kirkwood dispatched member and/or members of the Brotherhood, to Walter Scholtz Construction Company. The project was known as University Village on Stork Road in Goleta, CA. I signed work referrals for the following Brotherhood members. "7 members" not allowed. As a Business Representative of Local Union 1062, in April 1966, I hereby attest that on April 10, 1966, Elvin Scott was dispatched as a STEWARD to the Margate Construction Company. Job site also known as San Roque Filtration Plant. A work referral dated April 10, 1966, to job site for Margate Construction Company, La Vista Road, San Roque area of Santa Barbara, CA makes this, and the above a matter of Record. It was not the obligation of the Local union at that time, to collect delinquent funds due the trust funds. At that time, in question, the trust paid Deviloux and Cox, for the collection of delinquencies due the trust. NOT Allowed TO BE PUT ON THE RECORD AT MY APPEALS HEARING. Honorably submitted, Elmer W. Kirkwood VENTURA 29th of May 1986 Notary Public California Ventura California. Mr. Flett, has confirmed above about SHOLTZ and MARGATE PLUS OTHERS HE SENT ME, AND OTHERS OUT TO AS UNION CARPENTERS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. OTHERS HAVE DONE THE SAME for ALL THE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN DENIDE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CARPENTERS PENSION CREDIT. They would not let me, bring Mr. Kirkwood, Mr. Flett, papers to be read into evidence in my behalf, when I requested this to be put in the records, there response will look at them latter. Not in my appeals hearing to this date of September 1st year 2000. Checks showing my vacation pay was paid t o CARPENTERS HEALTH AND WELFARE TRUST FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BY MY EMPLOYER WALTER SCHOLTZ FURTHER MORE ON THE RECORDS SENT TO ME, BY THE SHOWS THAT THESE MONIES WAS PAID IN BY SCHOLTZ IN MY NAME. SOCIAL SECURITY RECORDS ALL SAME AMOUNT FOR THE TIME FRAMES. SAME at least for twenty or more in all. ( DENIED ME ) ALSO OTHER CHECKS SHOWING MY BENEFITS PAID IN TO THE CARPENTERS HEALTH AND WEFARE AND OTHER BENEFITS in all these time frames said TRUST has declared Non- Signatory. ALSO IN THIS TIME FRAME OUR UNION BOOK of CARPENTERS LOCAL UNION STATE ALL MONIES WOULD BE MADE GOOD BY OUR UNION 1062 , WOULD BE PAID TO US MEMBERS OF THE BROTHERHOOD OF CARPENTERS IF WE HAD BROUGHT UP THEY HAD NOT PAID INTO OUR BENEFITS IN THESE TIME FRAMES
http:www.angelfire.com/fl2/webpage1/battle.html ALL TIME FRAMES WERE BROUGHT UP TO MY LOCAL UNION 1062 by me, Elvin F. Scott , and other members in the time frames stated by these BY-LAWS CARPENTERS 1062, as REQUESTED BY OUR BY (LAWS-BOOK). Take look at our By Laws book around 1966 and 1967 to year 1970. (ALL OF THIS HAS LED TO THE FOLLOWING) BECAUSE OF THE CONSIRACY: TO KEEP CARPENTER'S FROM RETIRING EARLY ON THEIR 25 YEARS SERVICE PENSIONS. Mr. Kenny Scott, FINANCIAL SECRETARY of Carpenters Union 25, in Los Angeles California who said, " He was told and ordered not to help any of the Participant's and/or members to bring up their CARPENTER'S UNION PAST SERVICE TIME, to use any means including stalling lying ETC. He said this at Union meetings, in his OFFICE and in private to me, and others who were present this was to do the carpenter's period out of their pensions and fringes for their (SERVICE PENSIONS). CONSPERIES: Out of 5 people who were going to testify including three who were Financial Secretaries one Business Agent one member of the Brotherhood and one Financial Secretary who told me, they would see to it that no one would show up. Not to tell them his name. TWO WERE ORDERED NOT TO APPEAR THEY TOLD ME, THEY WERE ORDERED TO A MEETING PERIOD, ONE NO MORE HELP, ONE WHO HELPED ME, BY GIVING (ME), UNDER THE TABLE FACTS EVIDENCE AND THE Knowledge BY PASSING ME OUT SOME OF THE MATERIAL FROM THE UNION AND THE TRUST, AND ANOTHER WHO HELP BY GIVING ME MORE INFORMATION OVER THE YEARS AS HE INFORMED ME MR. LOPEZ , INFORMED HIM NOT TO HELP ME , ONE WHO SAID WITH ALL OF THESE PEOPLE GOING TO YOUR APPEALS HEARING YOU DON'T NEED ME.. I DECIDED TO TAKE THEM ON WITHOUT THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY WHO WOULD HAVE COME UNANNOUNCED AND BELIEVE ME HE WOULD HAVE. THE ONE MEMBER WAS OFFERED A JOB DAY OF THE HEARING I TOLD HIM TO TAKE IT. This was not enough the (TRUSTEES) added 5 years on to the CARPENTER'S in the STATE OF CALIFORNIA 30 years. Between SOUTHERN & NORTHERN CA, SO MUCH THE BETTER. THEY BOTH WOULD PENALIZED YOU. Carpenter Trust's in the State of California did not notify the participants in writing or by any means of these changes. On your SERVICE PENSIONS. NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE YOUR BENEFITS WORK IN YOUR BEHALF. I never received any of this information in writing until after the fact. EXAMPLES: IN BOTH SOUTHERN AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA UNION OFFICERS AND OFFICIALS AND OTHERS WHO WERE SECRETARIES OF DIFFERENT UNIONS SAID, " THEY HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE OPTION SOUTHERN & NORTHERN CARPENTER PENSION AND HEALTH AND WEFARE TRUST FUND PLANS ALL THROUGH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WERE ALSO INCLUDING ALL FRINGES" THESE TRUSTEES, WHO MADE THESE NEW RULES AND EXCEPTIONS FOR THESE FIRMS OR EMPLOYERS TO PROTECT THEIR EMPLOYEES IN THE DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OR AREAS AND THE DIFFERENT JURISDICITIONS FOR THEIR SERVICE PENSIONS 25 YEARS AND YOU ARE OUT FULL BENEFITS. THIS OPTION WAS NOT FOR Elvin F. Scott, OR FOR ALL OF THE CARPENTER MEMBERS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. We the "Public, are the ones to make these unscrupulous people who are responsible for handling our BENEFIT MONEY culpable for their actions. www.angelfire.com/fl2/webpage1/index.html
THIS WAS AND IS A CONSPIRACY TO KEEP THE CARPENTERS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FROM RETIRING IN 25 YEARS AND OUT. ALSO IN THESE TIME FRAMES THE CARPENTERS HAD BY-LAWS BOOKS AND IN THIS ONE GIVEN OUT BY OUR CARPENTER LOCAL UNION 1062, TO ITS MEMBERS IT STATED ALL MONEY WILL BE THERE FOR YOUR BENEFITS IF YOU HAD BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF YOUR UNION THAT MONEY HAD NOT BEEN PUT INTO YOUR BENEFITS IN THIS TIME FRAME. I , OTHERS BROUGHT ATTENSION TO THE FACT EMPLOYER AFTER EMPLOYER HAD NOT PAID INTO OUR UNION BENEFITS IN THIS REQUIRED TIME (FRAME), STATED IN THIS CARPENTERS BY-LAWS BOOK. EXAMPLES: !960, 1964, Allied Construction and Associates 8-8--60-8-15-60-8-22-60-8-29-60 & 9-6-60-9-12-60-9-19-60, I brought up that Allied was not paid me, for three weeks and was not paying our benefits, I was sent out by my Carpenters Local Union 1062, as acting Steward and they paid me, and all others their Vacation money for year 1960. Year 1964 they also paid me my vacation money as it shows on my Carpenters Health and Welfare. Carpenter's Trust allows me no Pension Credit for these two years Interesting for year 1964 Allied Carpenters Local Union had me, an about 12 others pulled in to the District Attorneys office because Allied was using oil on their nails. This gave me, and others of Local Carpenters 1062 members more work. For Example: This is what is on the 11 County Carpenters' Vacation Plan now these other years are on this same Vacation Carpenters Plan in Southern California, as all of my Employers are on each and every year that they claim my benefits were not paid in. I have copies of most of these Vacation Plans from year 1962 forward.
E F Scott Employer Deposit Date Work Hours Checks showing benefits
177202 9 796 4/12/66 3/66 16.00
177202 0196 5/09/66 4/66 2. 00
Walter Scholtz
E F Scott 230337 0297 5/16/66 4/66 87.50
230337 0670 6/14/66 5/66 149.50
230337 1099 7/15/66 6/66 16.00
FACE TO FACE APPEALS HEARING SET UP FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNION ALL- PENSION AND DEMOCRATIC RESEARCH CENTER, INC AS OF OCTOBER 25, 2000 AS I ELVIN F. SCOTT, ON THIS DATE CALLED AND INFORMD INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE DIRECTOR, EXEMPT ORGANIZATION I WAS READY TO FILE LAW SUITS IN YEAR 2001. WITH THIS INFORMATION AND FACTS I HAD SENT TO THEM AND WITH THE INFORMATION FACTS THAT I WOULD BRING WITH ME TO SAID HEARING 2000. WALTER SCHOLTZ BUILDING CORP. 1966 CARPENTERS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PENSION TRUST FUND PLAN CLAIMS SCHOLTZ NON-SIGNATORY TO A CARPENTERS UNION CONTRACT IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SAME FOR MARGATE AND ABOUT BETWEEN 10 T0 20 OTHERS. THIS WAS DONE TO CHEAT ME, OUT OF MY SERVICE PENSION 25 YEARS AND OUT. ALL MY EMPLOYERS SIGNED TO SOME FORM OF A CARPENTERS UNION CONTRACT FUTURE SERVICE TIME PERIOD 1959 THROUGH 2000. "MY PERSONAL OPINION"
I have (8) Check STUBS MARGATE SHOWING MY BENEFITS PAID IN TO CARPENTERS. This goes on and on for these so called Non Signatory Employers of Elvin F. Scott year 2000.
EQUAL BENEFITS FOR RETIRES OCTOBER AARP BULLETIN Therefore many employers have reduced or eliminated retiree health care benefits at age 65, when Medicaid eligibility kicks in now if the ruling stands, employers could be faced with choice of increasing benefits for older retirees, slashing them for younger retirees or terminating them for all retirees. INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE DIRECTOR , EXEMPT ORGANIZATION FACE TO FACE MEETING SET UP FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNION ALL-PENSION AND DEMOCRATIC RESEARCH CENTER , INC., AS OF DATE OF OCTOBER 25, 2000.
