America: Conviction and Redemption
(sent to us and posted by permission of author)
A few of my friends from my brief 'Jesus Movement'-like days back in the 70's, for instance, had dreams regarding the fall of the nation. Donna, the teenager who witnessed to me, had a sobering vision about martyrdom and a guillotine -- She was rather shaken by it for days, feeling rather corrected in the dream . She never told us some of the details. The 'pastor' at of our small house church (Alan Redrup -- last I knew he was has since been in the People of Destiny group for many years/started by Larry Tomszak/C.J. Mahaney) had a dream in which he was corrected for being 'out of shape' -- He had to run for many miles while these military Chinese people who had invaded the U.S. chased him. An unrelated (to our fellowship) young Charismatic Catholic lady up in N.J. had a dream in which the Chinese military who had taken over (parts of) the U.S. entered her home and demanded her and her husband renounce Jesus. She was pregnant at the time, and she and her husband refused. They killed them both. One of the revelations she got out of this dream was that she could trust the Lord that one day she would indeed be married in the future.
Many have reported to me similar dreams, and a sense of not quite knowing what to make of the dreams. For instance, how much of it was symbolism (meaning, how much can be taken literally)? Was it for themselves, or for others too?
The following is a sampling of dreams given to people which include military conquerors--Whether these images are symbols or literal is unknown... I've known people who have had dreams like this in the 1970's. Some are snipped down:
Date: May 26th, 1998 6:15 in the evening Eastern Daylight Time
The following is an excerpt from George Washington's angelic vision at Valley Forge in 1777, of World War III, and of a military invasion of the USA, as related by Wesley Bradshaw:
"...And again I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' At this, the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia, and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. And throughout this mass, there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of cloud. And I dimly saw these vast armies devastate the whole country, and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up.
"As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat., I again heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.
"Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word 'Union,' and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle. Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict, I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.'
"As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious.
"Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities, springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with a loud voice: 'While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last.' And taking from his brow the crown on which was blazoned the word 'Union,' he placed it upon the Standard, while the people, kneeling down, said 'Amen.'
1985, Book/Prophetic Word, America Is Going To Be Destroyed By Fire! — America is going to be destroyed by fire! Sudden destruction is coming and few will escape. Unexpectedly, and in one hour, a hydrogen holocaust will engulf America - and this nation will be no more. God is going to judge America for its violence, its crimes, its backsliding, its murdering of millions of babies, its flaunting of homosexuality and sadomasochism, its corruption, its drunkenness and drug abuse, its form of godliness without power, its luke-warmness toward Christ, its rampant divorce and adultery, its lewd pornography, its child molestations, its cheatings, its robbings, its dirty movies, and its occult practices. In one hour it will all be over. It's all over! Judgment is at the door! Our days are numbered ! The church is asleep, the congregations are at ease, and the shepherds slumber. How they will scoff and laugh at this message. Theologians will reject it because they can't fit it into their doctrine. The pillow prophets of peace and prosperity will publicly denounce it.
I no longer care. God has made my face like flint and put steel in my backbone. I am blowing the trumpet with all my might. Let the whole world and all the church call me crazy, but I must blow the trumpet and awaken God's people. America is about to be shaken and set aside by horrible judgments. Many other praying believers who have been shut in with God are hearing the very same message - "Judgment is at the door ! Prepare, awaken !" Before the great holocaust there will be smaller holocausts - the oil fields of the Middle East will be ablaze, and smoke will rise night and day as a warning of the greater holocaust yet to come. There will be bombs falling on oil fields, on shipping docks, and storage tanks. There will be panic among all oil producers, and shippers, and upon all nations dependent on that oil. (Note the 1985 publication date, several years before the 1991 Gulf War).
Soon, very soon, an economic nightmare will explode into reality. America is about to face a time of mass hysteria, as banks close and financial institutions crumble and our economy spins totally out of control. Gold and silver will lose their value. The chaos that is coming cannot be stopped by our government. The great holocaust follows an economic collapse in America. The enemy will make its move when we are weak and helpless. God did not keep the three Hebrew children from the fire - he delivered them in it. Christ went with them through the fire, and, whereas they came back to ruin, we will be translated to Glory.
September 7, 1992, Prophetic Word, Coning Disasters To America — I was given a prophetic message nine years ago, and I delivered it at Times Square Church on September 7, 1992. Let me share it with you now:
"This warning is not meant to scare you. It's meant only for you to take to the Lord and pray. This is what I believe God has shown me:
"Thirty days of chastisement will fall on New York City such as the world has never seen. God is going to let down the walls. There will be unimaginable violence and looting. The violence will be so ferocious, it will shock the whole world. Our streets will be lined not just with the National Guard but with militia.
"A thousand fires will burn at the same time throughout the city. The Los Angeles fires were confined to a few sections of that city, but New York will be ablaze in all its boroughs. Times Square will be ablaze, and the flames will ascend into heaven and be seen for miles. Fire trucks will not be able to handle it all.
"Trains and buses will be shut down. Billions of dollars will be lost. Broadway shows will stop completely. Businesses will flee the city in an unstoppable hemorrhage. Such things are expected in Third World countries, but not in a civilized nation like the United States. Yet, in not too long a time afterward, New York City will go completely bankrupt. The Queen City will be cast into the dirt, becoming a city of poverty.
"You may ask, when will all this happen? All I can say is, I believe I will be here when it happens. Yet, when it does, God's people are not to panic or fear."
Calls and messages have flooded our ministry offices, asking, "Was the terrorist attack on September 11 the calamity you were prophesying back in 1992?" No, not at all. What I saw coming will be much more severe. Indeed, if America rejects God's call to turn back to him, we'll face the same judgments Israel faced. And they will hit not only New York but every region in the country. Even the heartland won't be spared. The nation's economy will collapse, and violence will erupt. Fires will consume our cities, and tanks will rumble through the streets.
Perhaps you wonder, as I have, "Can any of this be avoided?" Yes, absolutely. I believe we'll be given a reprieve if our President proves to be a Josiah. You may well remember Josiah as the king who sought the Lord with all his heart. We all should pray that God would give our President the same spirit that Josiah had, to tremble at his Word. The Lord spoke the following to Josiah:
"Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof… because they have forsaken me, and have [worshipped] other gods… But [say] to the king of Judah which sent you to enquire of the Lord… Because thine heart was tender, and thou hast humbled thyself before the Lord, and thou heardest what I spake against this place, and against the inhabitants thereof, that they should become a desolation and a curse… I also have heard thee, saith the Lord. Behold therefore… thine eyes shall not see all the evil which I will bring upon this place" [2 Kings 22:15-20].
God told the king, in essence, "As long as you're in power, trembling at my Word and relying on me, you won't see the judgments to come. They won't happen during your reign."
I believe our window of opportunity to respond to God's call is brief. We all should pray that our nation repents and turns back to the Lord. But our most intense prayers should be for our own hearts: "Lord, let me tremble not at the disasters, but at your Word. I want to hear your voice in all of this. Cause me to turn wholly to you." Awake! Awake!
September 30, 2002, Excerpt From Times Square Church Pulpit – I Believe The Economic Crash Has Already Begun — Jesus tells us that in the last days, men's hearts will fail them for fear [see Luke 21:26]. I believe that time is coming soon. I foresee multitudes, in America and throughout the world, numbing their hearts and minds to the coming terror. They'll try to delude themselves so they won't have to face any more fearful news. Right now, especially in New York City and Israel, masses of people suffer from sleeplessness. Clinics have opened throughout the city here because thousands are kept awake by a sense of dread. And according to Scripture, the worst is still to come. Whenever the Old Testament prophets received a glimpse of our day, they shuddered. I believe the economic crash has already begun. Over the past two years, more than $7 TRILLION has been lost in the stock market. There may be an upward trend for a while, but it won't last. The buying spree will end. And credit-card debt will bankrupt multitudes. There will be weeping and wailing on all sides because of past spending. The real estate bubble is also going to burst. The market will be full of sellers but NO buyers. Even now, expensive homes are for sale by owners who are almost bankrupt because of falling stocks. A builder in New Jersey told me of a newly built, near million-dollar homes with no furniture inside, because the owners were hit so hard financially. Most frightening of all, I see war about to break out. The world will soon teeter on the edge of a hydrogen-war scare. It will cause leaders around the world to tremble. I'm not trying to frighten anyone. But the body of Jesus Christ must hear the truth about these times. A devilish spirit is about to be unleashed on the earth. And as frightful events mount, believers are going to numb themselves to fear. Some will even narcotize themselves like heathen, through alcohol or drugs. Others will give themselves over to sensuality of all kinds. Satan has already provided them with a massive menu of filth, through TV and the Internet. This will all lead to a hardening among God's people. In Rev. 16:9, John describes an awful, scorching heat coming upon the earth: "Men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God… and they repented not to give Him glory." These sufferers will be so numb, they'll refuse deliverance. They'll prefer hell instead. Some of these blasphemers are going to be Christians. In the coming days, passive, lukewarm believers will experience a searing of their conscience. This won't be a hardening against God; they'll hold to a form of godliness, and believe they're safe. But the time will come when they have no feeling whatsoever. And in turn, they'll have no fear, shock or concern for eternity. They'll stop growing in Christ. And they'll become easy targets for satan.4
From: 1David Wilkerson's book called "The Vision," some of Chapters 1-5, ISBN 0-515-03286-7, ©1974. Times Square Church, 1657 Broadway, New York City, New York 10019, www.timessquarechurch.org. 2From the book "Set The Trumpet To Thy Mouth" by David Wilkerson, 1985, David Wilkerson, World Challenge, P.O. Box 260, Lindale, Texas 75771. 3The above was from a recent newsletter from World Challenge, Inc. Times Square Church, 237 West 51 Street at Broadway, New York, New York. Also, David's book called "America's Last Call." David & his wife, Gwen, live in New York City, where he serves as senior pastor of Times Square Church. www.angelfire.com/fl3/gammadim/news.html or David Wilkerson firstname.lastname@example.org .
This vision was around mid 2000. I was reading about the coming bombing of the U.S. and as I sat down in my rocker to look out my big picture window to reflect about this with the Lord, all of a sudden a laughter came forth from way down inside. I asked the Lord what was so funny about the U.S. being bombed. He then showed me a quick vision of Phoenix being bombed (I perceived it didn't matter what city) and in the midst of that there were people walking around just fine. I then saw the enemy watching via satellite and was horrified to see people walking around in the midst of what I perceived to be a nuclear bombing. Vision ended. The lord is our high tower and our refuge and our fortress! At this time, I'm awaiting for God's direction in moving out of Phoenix. Seems I am to be in the mountains somewhere.