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Unraveling The Secrets: Year 2
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August 26, 2005 Volume II Number 19 
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“Don’t rock the boat … Instead kick a damn hole in it’s rotten bottom.”
Editor: Dennis Crenshaw
Crenshawdg@aol.com 
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In this Issue  
Earthly Mysteries 
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Links to FREE books!  

Links to 4 free books that together create a nice little ‘Hollow Earth’ 
library.
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Hollow Earth *** Inner News:
Scientists confirm Earth Has An Inner Sun

Experts 'decipher' Inca strings 

Humanoids Without Saucers
By T. Peter Park

In the ‘TAL’ ZONE:
Sub-Urbia: The Colonization of Underground Space

Bermuda Triangle Odyssey
 By Rob MacGregor

Continuing The Search for Atlantis

UFO -- Word Wide Reports
&
Selected Short Subjects

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Unraveling the Secrets is a FREE Research Report from:
www.thehollowearthinsider.com 
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Thanks to my long-time friend BRANTON all the back issues of this 
series of reports can be found archived at: 
https://www.angelfire.com/empire/fireangel/THEI/THEI.html 

Visit BRANTON’S Underground Base & Hideout at:
https://www.angelfire.com/empire/fireangel/
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Many of our sources do not leave their reports and stories available at 
the links provided by this report forever. If a link does not work you 
might have to do a little searching to find it, or unfortunately, you 
might not be able to find it at all. I advise that you read these 
reports ASAP and save any information that you might want to return to for 
future reference to a disc or your computer. 
Or you might be disappointed… Dennis

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QUOTE OF THE DAY:

“Briefly our theory is that the original nebula did not break up into a 
solar system but condensed into one planet. From observations of 
nebulae which are at this moment in various stages of their evolution we are 
forced to the conclusion that the rotating mass of gas, breaking off 
from its center nucleus forms an envelope of a roughly spherical shape 
which afterwards solidifies, leaving the central nucleus still in the 
center to form an inner sun.”  … Marshall B. Gardner 
A Journey To the Earth’s Interior 1920
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HOLLOW EARTH *** INNER NEWS

POSITIVE PROOF: The Earth Has An Inner Sun

[Long time Insider “Jeff” brought this report to my attention. …. Once 
again scientists admit an Inner Sun does exist! … Dennis]

Earth's Core Rotates Faster than Surface, Study Confirms
LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 25 August 2005
02:02 pm ET
Source: LiveScience

The giant orb of iron and nickel that anchors Earth's center is 
spinning faster than the planet's surface, according to a new study that 
confirms scientists' expectations….
Complete Report:  
http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050825_earthcore.html

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From THEI’S DUSTY FILES
A Short Editorial
By Dennis Crenshaw

From  “Scientists Find Inner Sun!”
Source: The Hollow Earth Insider Research Report -- Vol. III # 6 summer 
1996
Page 1 --- “New News”

 According to articles in the San Francisco Chronicle, the New Your 
Times, The Los Angeles Times and the Rocky Mountain Times published on 
July 18, 1996 seismologists at Columbia Universities Lamont-Doherty Earth 
Observatory in Palisades N.J. have discovered that “the earth’s core is 
spinning freely and slightly faster than the rest of the planet making 
it virtually a planet within a planet.”

Wait a minute!  “Spinning Freely”?   “A planet within a planet”?  If 
the “Inner Core” is the temperature we are told it is then it gives off 
tremendous heat, right?  And common sense tells us that something that 
hot would have to give off light.  So….  

Where do they get off calling this a “Planet within a Planet”?  What we 
REALLY HAVE is a “SUN within a Planet.” …  Just as Marshall B. Gardner 
theorized in his 1913-20 outline of the Hollow Earth Theory, “A Journey 
to the Earth’s Interior!”   

This information is actually amazing when you remember that just a few 
years ago scientists were telling us that our planet was a solid object 
and any talk of an ‘Inner Sun’ was totally ridiculed.

You will find my in-depth examination of the  “Inner Planet” VS  “Inner 
Sun” argument on our web site at:
http://www.thehollowearthinsider.com/news/wmview.php?ArtID=2

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What do you REALLY know about the ‘Hollow Earth Theory”?
Bone up with your own FREE Hollow Earth Library!!!!

Gardner & Reed’s books below were the first to present an argument 
expounding a ‘Hollow Earth Theory.’
  
A Journey to The Earth’s Interior (1920) by Marshall B. Gardner
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/jei/

Phantom of the Poles (1906) by William Reed
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/potp/index.htm


The Smoky God As told to Willis George Emerson
http://www.holloworbs.com/the_smokey_god.htm
[Probably fiction … could be based on Insider Knowledge … Dennis]

ETIDORHPA presented by John Uri Lloyd
http://www.holloworbs.com/EtidorhpaHome.htm
[One of the strangest books on the subject …  we know at least part of 
the story is proven fact.  (See, “Is William Morgan the Man” by Bruce 
Walton at:  
http://www.thehollowearthinsider.com/news/guest.php). … 

From that point on no one knows.  I suspect there is more to this book 
than even those who are convinced that every word is gospel realize. 
If nothing else … it’s a great read! … Dennis].
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HEADLINES

Noted UFO debunker Klass dies at 85
Was well-known aviation writer
By Kemberly C. Moore
Aug. 12, 2005
Source:  Florida Today

Philip J. Klass spent a 50-year career meticulously researching stories 
on the latest in aviation technology as a senior editor for Aviation 
Week & Space Technology magazine. He spent his off hours trying to 
disprove the existence of UFOs.
Klass died Tuesday of prostate cancer at the Merritt Island home he 
shared with his wife of 25 years, Nadya. …
Continue:  
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050812/NEWS01/508120337/1006
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Student unearths Einstein paper 
Sunday, 21 August 2005
Source:  BBC

An original Albert Einstein manuscript has been unearthed at a 
university in the Netherlands by a student. 

Rowdy Boeyink stumbled on the document while he was researching papers 
belonging to an old friend of Einstein. 
"It was quite exciting," said Professor Carlo Beenakker, of the 
University of Leiden. "You can even see Einstein's fingerprints in some 
places." 
The 16-page manuscript, dated 1924, shows the German-born genius 
working on his last major theory. …
Complete Report w/ image of a page of manuscript:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4170212.stm

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Experts 'decipher' Inca strings 
Aug. 12. 2005
Source:  BBC

Researchers in the US believe they have come closer to solving a 
centuries-old mystery - by deciphering knotted string used by the ancient 
Incas. 
Experts say one bunch of knots appears to identify a city, marking the 
first intelligible word from the extinct South American civilization. …
Continue:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4143968.stm

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Osama Underground?
Posted by:  strontium_doug@
Group:  allplanets-hollow@yahoogroups.com

Here's a newspaper article I read in the Technology section of the 
San Francisco Chronicle newspaper. It's got enough to stir the 
imagination a bit.

SGI to help in subterranean search for bin Laden 

Old technique used to find oil, gas deposits to be updated for 
military applications
Benjamin Pimentel, Chronicle Staff Writer
Monday, August 22, 2005

The hunt for Osama bin Laden has proven difficult because he leads an 
underground organization that is, well, underground. Four years after 
the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, U.S. forces are still hunting down 
the world's most-wanted terrorist in caves and mountains in remote 
parts of Central Asia. Now, Silicon Graphics Inc. of Mountain View is 
teaming up with the U.S. military to help pinpoint enemy underground 
structures, including al Qaeda's hideouts, with the help of 
technology that U.S. companies use to look for oil and gas 
deposits. "It will give us insights into underground structures that 
we never had before," said Paul Temple, a senior manager at SGI who 
worked in U.S. military intelligence for more than 20 years. The 
technology, dubbed subterranean target identification, is based on a 
technique that's been used in oil and gas exploration since the 
1930s. Engineers use explosives or air pulses to set off vibrations 
in an area suspected of having oil. The vibrations then reflect 
signals used to create subterranean images. "They tell us how deep 
the reflection is and the character of the rock it reflected off of," 
said Bill Bartling, senior director of strategy at SGI and one of its 
experts on the oil and gas industry. This technique has become more 
efficient and sophisticated with the advances in computers, such as 
SGI's highly regarded visualization technology, which allows oil 
companies to study 3-D images of underground terrain. …
Continue report at:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/qws/ff/qr?term=Osama&Go=GO&Submit=S

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UFO -- WORLD WIDE REPORTS

Canada
Midwest a hotspot for UFO action?
By Leo Paré
Monday August 22, 2005
Source:  Lloydminster Meridian Booster

Midwest residents are keeping their eyes on the skies this summer, with 
dozens of strange reports beaming into the local UFO research office.

Lloydminster Meridian Booster — Midwest residents are keeping their 
eyes on the skies this summer, with dozens of strange reports beaming into 
the local UFO research office.
In November of 2004, paranormal believer Barb Campbell established 
Saskatchewan’s first UFO research centre in her hometown of Maidstone, but 
she may have got more than she bargained for in her not-for-profit 
venture. Animal mutilations, strange lights, crop impressions and fireballs 
are among the 29 X-File-worthy reports the Northwest Saskatchewan UFO 
Research Centre has fielded since January of this year, and in 2004 the 
NWSURC reported more than 50 unusual incidents and sightings. All of 
this year’s sightings have occurred in or around the communities of 
Gurnsey, Lanigan, Lloydminster, Maidstone, Melfort, Midale, Moose Jaw, North 
Battleford, Paradise Hill, St. Walburg, Prince Albert, Qu’Appelle, 
Regina, Saskatoon and Tisdale, but Campbell has also received reports from 
as far away as Idaho.
“The beginning of the year seemed slow, but sightings have picked up 
this summer,” said Campbell. “All my reports are pretty incredible … and 
I’m very interested in some of these cow mutilation cases.” …
Continue report at:  http://www.meridianbooster.com/story.php?id=179606
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Cordoba Argentina
 UFO's & Photos
Posted by: universal_heartbeat2012@
Group:  Skyopen@yahoogroups.com
Source:  HBCC UFO Research

Complete report:
http://www.hbccufo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2987

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Kentucky, USA
Researcher Feels Certain UFOs Exist
Posted on: Monday, 22 August 2005, 00:00 CDT
Source:  Red Nova

HOPKINSVILLE, Ky. -- Peter Davenport has received more phone calls than 
he cares to count that have an unusual opening: "Please believe me, I'm 
not crazy."
For Davenport, director of the National UFO Reporting Center in 
Seattle, it's part of the job. 
Davenport spoke Sunday at the Little Green Men Festival in Hopkinsville 
with tales of what he believes are some of the more fascinating, 
provable cases reported. The festival, at the Hopkinsville-Christian County 
Conference and Convention Center, commemorates the 50th anniversary of 
the Aug. 21, 1955, report of an alien invasion at Kelly. … 
Continue:  
http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=215253&source=r_oddities
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New Mexico, USA
UFO 'expert' speculates about strange lights
By Bill Donovan
Staff Writer
Tuesday Aug. 23, 2005
Source:  Gallup (NM) Independent

GALLUP — Local UFO "expert" Robert Allen got noticeably excited when he 
got his first look at photos of the unexplained phenomenon that 
appeared over these skies last week. 

"I'm getting goosebumps," he said, adding that these may be the 
clearest photos taken of a UFO in decades. 

The photos were taken by Lyle Jeff, a 17-year-old student who lives in 
Standing Rock, a small Navajo community about 35 miles north of Gallup. 

The photos show something but just what that something is will probably 
be talked about in UFO circles for years if not decades. … Continue 
w/photo:
http://www.gallupindependent.com/2005/august/082305ufo.html


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GROUP WATCH

ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE:
Prophecies
Posted by:  teamronnie2005
Group:  openmindandcodenews@yahoogroups.com

From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/

Hi Friends 

Here is a great link to the Hopi Elder's Prophecy. 
http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html 
 
Here is a great article on the Mayan Prophecy. 
http://cosmicmysteries.com/hunbatz.htm 
Ronnie

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The Incredible Oneness of Shasta 
By James Vlahos 
Posted by:  nightufo@
Group:  forteanphenomena_again@yahoogroups.com
8/7/05

In a righteous quest to meld glisse (the love of sliding downhill) with
bliss (that enlightened state you can only get from a good crystal
cleansing), one lowly writer heads to America's only New Age
mountain—Shasta, spiritual vortex and home of the wee people. 
"God meaning good," Yoj says. "All good, good for all, that's all God
ever means, daddy-o." He sips his coffee and beams at me. With glowing
blue eyes, shaggy hair, and a white beard, he looks like an Old
Testament prophet, albeit a sporty one from a mountain town. It's a
bright May morning, warm enough for shorts, and we're sitting on the
deck at Laurie's Mountain View Café in Mount Shasta, California. I'm
framing a reply to Yoj's utterance of Essential Truth—a "yeah, dude"
seems insufficient—when his face breaks into a wide grin. "The
incredible oneness of being!" he exclaims.

Click the slideshow below for more photos. …
Continue at:  
http://www.skiingmag.com/skiing/feature/article/0,12910,1067734,00.html
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TOP SECRET

Synopsis of the Alien Master Plan
July 18, 2004
Posted by:  teamronnie2005@
Group:  openmindandcodenews@yahoogroups.com
Source:  Aliens & UFOs - Top Secret Website


version 1.0 
11/11/03 
montalk@montalk.net

This article addresses some important questions regarding the alien 
agenda. It merely skims the surface and should therefore supplement your 
own research, not replace it. If you want a thorough grasp of what's 
going on, I recommend analyzing with discernment the following books 
(email me if you have trouble obtaining them):

Gods of Eden - William Bramley 
The Threat - Dr David Jacobs 
The Love Bite - Eve Lorgen 
Into the Fringe - Dr Karla Turner 
God's Gladiators - Stuart Wilde 
Tales from the Timeloop - David Icke 
UFOs and the National Security State - Richard Dolan 
The Allies of Humanity - Marshall Summers 
Bringers of the Dawn - Barbara Marciniak 
The Ra Material, Books I,II,III - Don Elkins, Carla Rueckert 
Cassiopaean Transcripts - Cassiopaeans, LKJ 

Each of these contain valuable pieces to the puzzle. Use your heart to 
tell you what is right, and use intellect to tell you what is false. 
The same goes for what you read in this article. Keep what makes sense, 
and throw out what is blatantly false. 
"Something's right til proven wrong or something better comes along." 
------ 
Are we alone in the universe? 
Of course not. We're not even alone on earth. Even assuming that a 
finite 3D universe is all there is, calculations show a high probability 
that intelligent life exists elsewhere in this galaxy and that earth has 
seen the presence of extraterrestrials. Anyone with common sense 
acknowledges this possibility, anyone with an open mind will research the 
subject, and anyone with open eyes will confirm for themselves that aliens 
exist, have been active in our past, and continue to be actively 
involved in human affairs today. 
Skeptics tend to be ignorant and refuse to examine all the evidence, 
closing their eyes and claiming they don't see any evidence that aliens 
exist. In truth, ignorance is never proof to the contrary. To put it 
another way, "Just because your head's up your ass doesn't mean the sun 
don't shine." 
Evidence is everywhere …
Complete Report at:  http://tinyurl.com/7e8un
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Continuing The Search for Atlantis:

Mythquotes, mythunderstandings, and mythtranslations.
Posted by oxyrhino@
Group:  ancient_civilizations@yahoogroups.com

[This is a BRIEF summary of items, since I can be quite wordy. It has
a couple new items and some previously posted.] 

People often assume meanings in Plato's account of Atlantis where the
Greek text does not literally support said meaning.

1. Atlantis larger than Libya and Asia? [Timaeus 24e]

The literal Greek is "greater than Libya and Asia." It can mean
bigger, but it can also mean greater in other ways as well. Plato uses
"greater" with different meanings, including "larger." 

Some people who assume Plato meant "larger" have claimed that Asia
meant only Asia Minor (Today's region around Turkey) evidently to make
the size more believable. Herodotus (after Solon) includes more of
what we call Asia and includes Egypt as well. The Egyptian priest who
spoke with Solon also speaks of Egypt as part of Asia in Timaeus 24b.


2. Atlantis was destroyed in a single day and night? [Timaeus 25d]

Plato says the Greek army was destroyed in a single day and night. He
then says "in like manner" or "in a similar way" Atlantis was
destroyed. Applying the "day and night" to Atlantis is speculative, as
is assuming both events occurred at the same time; though it is of
course possible they did. Stating the Atlantis was destroyed in a
single day and night, without explaining the context, is misleading,
possibly deceptive.


3. Atlantis was destroyed in the war or the destruction ended the war?

Plato says the Greeks were victorious over the Atlanteans. Thus the
war ended [Timaeus 25c]. After this, he says at a "later time"
(hustero chrono) was when the Athenian army was destroyed, and
Atlantis followed "in like manner." So the destruction was at a time
after the war.

Moreover, the word "chronos" or "time" can be translated "age". This
is the same word that is applied to mean "ages" in describing the full
history of both Athens and Atlantis. Thus the rendering of the phrase
in Timaeus could imply "a later age" instead of "a later time." Either
way, there was a period of time between the war and the destruction.


4. The war ended 9000 years before Solon?

Jowett's translation implies this in Critias 108e.

A comparison of Critias 109b and 113b shows that Plato assigns the
founding of both Athens and Atlantis to the same period; namely when
the gods allocated the earth. Timaeus 23e assigns that date to 9000
years before Solon. Plato also shows each nation existed form many
ages, many generations, before the end. [c.f. Timaeus 23c; Critias
111b, 118c, 120d,e]

Therefore the war could not have ended at the point in time 9000 years
before Solon. That is when Plato says Athens and Atlantis were
founded. A careful contextual analysis of Plato demonstrates the war
ended "many ages" later.

The problem here is only in a couple English translation. The Greek
literally means "the beginning of a war" not the end. The Penguin
Classics edition translates it as a "declaration of war."

www.greekatlantis.com


Regards,
Joseph
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More regarding Atlantis
Posted by:  ancientstar@
Group:  AtlantisMysteries@yahoogroups.com

Rocks add weight to Atlantis debate
By:  Rossella Lorenzi
Discovery News
Wednesday, 10 August 2005

Plato's account of how the fabled city of Atlantis sank below the 
surface of the ocean has scientific grounding, according to a seafloor 
survey of an island west of the Straits of Gibraltar.

Dr Marc-André Gutscher of the University of Western Brittany in France 
performed a detailed mapping of the seafloor on Spartel Island, already 
proposed as a candidate for the origin of the Atlantis legend in 2001 
by French geologist Professor Jacques Collina-Girard. 

Lying 60 metres beneath the surface in the Gulf of Cadiz, the island is 
right "in front of the Pillars of Hercules", or the Straits of 
Gibraltar, as stated by Plato. 

Analysis of sedimentary deposits reveals a large earthquake and a 
tsunami hit the island about 12,000 years ago.

This is roughly when the Greek philosopher's writings indicate the city 
was destroyed, Gutscher reports in the current issue of the journal 
Geology. 
Report Continues at:     
http://abc.net.au/science/news/enviro/EnviroRepublish_1434598.htm
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An Atlantean Crystal?
Posted by:  uriel_andros@yahoo.com

Greetings!

I have for many years been focused in my spiritual work on the
implications of meditations concerning an Atlantean crystal. Details
of this can be read at  http://www.nasalam.org/seed-crystal.htm .

Over the years I have been quite careful to not reveal the location of
this crystal, knowing that there are people, agencies and
organizations that would be interested in misusing this crystal as was
done in Atlantis. Quite inadvertently, this situation has changed.

On August 4th I mentioned in an email to a friend in Central America
that my spiritual interest in the area was centered in the remote site
of (-----). Six days later my fears of being monitored were realized
when a 4-star general, head of SOUTHCOM that oversees operations in
central and South America, flew to this country and guided three
blackhawk helicopters to the exact spot I had mentioned. He had no
obvious reason for being there.

I have been waiting for many years for the time when this crystal
would once again play its role in shaping the destiny of humanity, and
I feel that time has arrived. It is my feeling that the conflict that
Edgar Cayce referred to as the battle between the Children of the Law
of One and the Sons of Belial is about to move to a new level.

I am eager to connect with any persons who feel drawn to respond to
this message and be part of retrieving this crystal for the good it
can work for humanity. It will not be an easy job, but a very
important one.

Namaste!
Uriel Andros

http://www.nasalam.org 

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Bermuda Triangle Odyssey 
By Rob MacGregor
Posted by: nightufo@
Group:  forteanphenomena_again@yahoogroups.com
Source: FATE Magazine - August 2005

Thirty years ago, it was the most discussed mystery of the day, a 
region where at any moment a mysterious fog might cling to a vessel like 
tight clothing, where the navigational instruments might fail, where 
ships, planes, and people simply vanished, where the occupants of an 
aircraft might experience a time distortion.
Although you may not hear much about the Bermuda Triangle these days, 
mysterious events still transpire in the infamous region. Take this 
case:
It should have been an uneventful trip, a short flight from the 
Freeport International Airport in the Bahamas to West Palm Beach. The six-seat 
Piper Lance II took off at 5:35 a.m. on July 29, 2002. Within a few 
minutes, the craft reached 4,700 feet and the pilot switched radio contact 
from Freeport to the Miami air traffic control. …
Continue at:  http://fatemag.com/2005_08art1a.html
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The Search for Bigfoot 
Posted by: nightufo@
Group:  forteanphenomena_again@yahoogroups.com

Expedition casts wide Net for Bigfoot
By ALEX BREITLER
Scripps-McClatchy Western Service
August 13, 2005
Saturday

HAPPY CAMP, Calif. - Tom Biscardi is on the hunt for Bigfoot, and 
you're
invited to join him.
For a fee, that is.

The controversial Sasquatch sleuth has embarked on yet another
expedition, this time in western Siskiyou County where a flurry of
sightings has been reported in recent weeks.
This time, Biscardi is broadcasting his search on the Internet, saying
he hopes to bring viewers around the world a genuine Bigfoot encounter 
-
like the one he claimed to have had near Burney, Calif., earlier this
year. …
Continue the report at:  
http://www.sitnews.us/0805news/081305/081305_shns_bigfoot.html

On the Net
For more information about Tom Biscardi and his pay-per-view Bigfoot
operation, visit  www.findingbigfoot.com
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UFO Cover-up
Posted by:  universal_heartbeat2012
Group:  Skyopen@yahoogroups.com
Source:  DBARKERTV.COM 



The Edge of Reality: Illinois UFO, January 5, 2000 

THERE IS ONE REASON GOVERNMENTS SUPPRESS FACTS ABOUT UFOs: 
SELF-PRESERVATION

JANUARY 5, 2000, ST. CLAIR CO., ILLINOIS FLYING TRIANGLE CASE ANALYSIS 

THIS CASE WAS ADDRESSED BY PETER JENNINGS, ABC NEWS, FEB 24, 2005

WELCOME! YOU HAVE JUST JOINED THE RANKS OF OUR LIST OF DISTINGUISHED 
VISITORS. 

U.S. Government Agencies that have Investigated this UFO case via this 
Website: 

THE U.S. SUPREME COURT,
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,
THE UNITED STATES TREASURY
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY (DOE),
THE U.S. CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL (CDC)
THE U.S. FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA),
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
THE U.S. NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION (NSF),
THE U.S. CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY (CIA),
THE U.S. NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION (NASA),
THE U.S. NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATI0N (NOAA),
LOS ALAMOS NATIONAL LABORATORY (Home of the Atomic Bomb), 
SANDIA, ARGONNE and FERMI NATIONAL LABORATORIES,
THE U.S. SPACE AND NAVAL WARFARE SYSTEMS CENTER,
THE U.S. AIR FORCE SPACE COMMAND (AFSPC)
THE U.S. DEFENSE INFORMATION SYSTEMS AGENCY (DISA)
U.S. 'BLACK' PROGRAM AIRCRAFT GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS:
BOEING, LOCKHEED MARTIN, NORTHRUP GRUMMAN, AND RAYTHEON,
The U.S. ARMY....NAVY.....AIR FORCE....and MARINES,
and THE PENTAGON. 

NOW, IS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT INTERESTED IN UFOs?
See for yourself what all the fuss is about at:
http://dbarkertv.com/UPDATE.htm
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Subterranean Worlds

Pre-Columbian tunnel complex discovered in southeastern Peru
Posted by:  tone33@
Group:  Ancient_Underground@yahoogroups.com

Pre-Columbian tunnel complex discovered in southeastern Peru


Story Filed: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:40 AM EST 

Lima, Aug 15, 2002 (EFE via COMTEX) -- A pre-Columbian tunnel complex 
has been discovered in southeastern Peru, officials said. 

Chumbivilcas Mayor Florentino Layme told Panamericana Television that 
the tunnels were discovered in the southeastern province of 
Chumbivilcas, some 1,300 kilometers (about 808) miles southeast of the capital. 

The tunnels apparently were made by the Wari people who lived in the 
area prior to the emergence of the Inca empire and are located under the 
village of Lliqui. 

The walls of the tunnels, or "chinkanas" in Quechua, were carved from 
stone blocks. 

Pottery pieces and bones also have been discovered, which fortunately 
had not been looted, Layme said. 

The National Culture Institute is assisting in protecting the complex. 

Some tunnels appear to have been natural caves used by inhabitants of 
the area in religious ceremonies. 

The tunnels were accidentally discovered when villagers from Llique 
were chasing cattle rustlers.
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Hollow Earth:
New Page at Onelight.com

[One Light is the Internet’s first web site devoted to the Hollow Earth 
and has become  the largest Hollow Earth Group on the Net.  I’m proud 
to say One light was the first web site to post some of  my personal 
writings on the subject on the Internet… and those old writings are still 
there.  
Greg Gavin, the site’s founder and his group focus their studies on a 
unique “new-age” look at the Hollow Earth.  As a veteran Hollow Earth 
researcher, and the knowledgeable group at One Light, Greg’s new web page 
should be quite interesting. … Dennis].

http://onelight.com/askgreg.htm

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Revelations:  Underwater Civilizations?
Posted by:  akhenatron@gmail.com
Group:  HAL838@yahoogroups.com

What do most of these websites have in common?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1923794.stm
http://www.egyptvoyager.com/articles_ancientcitiesfounsdund.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Under-Sea_Civilizations/
http://edgarcayce.org/am/underwatercities.html
http://www.s8int.com/water2.html
http://www.s8int.com/water4.html

They don't mention the Bible or *Noah*.

These aren't isolated pockets:
India, Egypt, Japan, the U.S., South America
These discoveries are WORLDWIDE

They're discovering roads, temples, and ENTIRE cities underwater.
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Pre-Inca ruins found in lake Titicaca
Posted by:  luckypig@
Group:  Paranormal_Research@yahoogroups.com
Source:  
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4054650,00.html


Pre-Inca ruins found in lake Titicaca

Alex Bellos, South America correspondent
Guardian

Thursday August 24, 2000


The ruins of what is thought to be a huge ancient temple have been 
discovered by archaeologists diving beneath Lake Titicaca in the Andes 
between Bolivia and Peru.

An international team of scientists announced the finding this week 
after 
making more than 200 dives in Titicaca, which, at 3,800m above sea 
level, is 
the world's highest navigable lake.

"We've found what appears to have been a 200-metre-long, 50-metre- wide 
holy 
temple, a terrace for crops, a pre-Incan road and an 800- metre-long 
containing wall," said Lorenzo Epis, the Italian leading the Atahuallpa 
2000 
expedition. Ceramic artifacts were also found on the lake's floor.

Titicaca has long been the subject of legends about a lost underwater 
city, 
but there has been little research because of the logistical 
difficulties of 
diving at altitude.

While a submerged city has not been found, Mr Epis said the ruins 
appeared 
to be 1,000 to 1,500 years old. It thus predates the Incas and could 
point 
to the Tihuanaco people, who lived on Titicaca's shores before becoming 
part 
of the Incan empire.

"This means our civilizations have left more footprints than we had 
thought," said Antonio Eguino, Bolivia's vice-minister of culture. The 
ruins 
were found in an area of the lake between the town of
Copacabana and the popular tourist destinations of the Island of the 
Sun and 
Island of the Moon. The divers followed a submerged road until they 
arrived 
at the discoveries, at a depth of about 20
metres.

In addition to the practical difficulties, the research project had to 
contend with a worried public, who had not been informed of the 
project. 
Diving was delayed for four days because of the distrust of the local 
population on the Island of the Sun, who believe the lake is sacred.

Akakor Geographical Exploring, an Italian cultural association that 
organised the expedition, first made a trip to Titicaca in 1998 to look 
at 
underwater caves and to research diving techniques at high altitude.

Marco Antonio Simi, who was on that expedition, said that the 
groundwork on 
pressure levels allowed the group to return this year; most diving 
technology is based on ocean-bound dives, where pressure levels are 
very 
different.

Mr Simi said this was the first time top-level divers and professional 
archaeologists had investigated Titicaca together, adding that it was 
rare 
for specialists of both disciplines to work side by side.

The team was looking for an underwater temple. "What they found was the 
beginning of what they were looking for," he said.
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Park Place
the Research and Writings of T. Peter Park

Humanoids Without Saucers
By T. Peter Park

In the 1950's and 1960's, even long before abduction reports became so 
common, many people reported seeing strange humanoids. Often, they 
reported seeing the entities in connection with landed or hovering UFO’s. 
In other cases, however, no unusual craft or vehicle was in fact 
mentioned by the witness(es). Several such saucerless creature sightings have 
become classic “UFO occupant” cases, repeated in countless UFO books as 
well-known “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” This seems to be the 
case, for instance, with the often-cited humanoid sightings at Branch 
Hill (Ohio) and Stockton (Georgia) in 1955, and near Globe (Arizona) in 
1960, as well as with the somewhat less celebrated Renton (Washington) 
humanoid encounter of 1965--and a "frog-man" seen in Estonia in 
1938/1939, listed by Jacques Vallee in his chronology of UFO landings in 
_Passport to Magonia_ (1969). 

At 4 AM early one morning in March, 1955, Robert Hunnicutt of Loveland, 
Ohio (a town near Cincinnati noted later for the “Loveland Frog” of the 
1970's), was driving over a bridge near Branch Hill, Ohio on his way to 
Loveland when he saw 3 small “men” about 3 feet tall, grayish in color 
with froglike faces, kneeling by the roadside. He stopped his car 
because he thought someone was hurt and needed help. One of the creatures 
held a dark chain or stick giving off bluish-white sparks between his 
raised arms. When Hunnicutt got out of his car one of the “men” moved as 
if signaling him to stay where he was. So, Hunnicutt just watched for 
about three minutes. The next thing he knew, he was driving toward the 
Loveland police station, making him feel he “must have lost 
consciousness,” in an interesting anticipation of the “missing time” element of so 
many later abduction reports. [Coral and Jim Lorenzen, _Flying Saucer 
Occupants_. (New York: New American Library, “Signet Books,” 1967!
), pp. 121-122; Jacques Vallee, _Passport to Magonia_ (Chicago: Henry 
Regnery, 1969), Case 361, p. 248; Coral Lorenzen, ”UFO Occupants in the 
United States,” in Charles Bowen, ed., _The Humanoids_ (Chicago: Henry 
Regnery, 1969), p. 150; Leonard H. Stringfield, _Situation Red! The UFO 
Siege_ (New York: Fawcett Crest, 1977), pp. 115-116; Janet and Colin 
Bord, _Unexplained Mysteries of the 20th Century_ (Chicago: Contemporary 
Books, 1989), p. 151] 

A few months later that year, at 3:30 AM in the early morning of July 
3, Mrs. Margaret Symmonds of Cincinnati, Ohio was driving her family car 
to Florida when she saw 4 small figures in her headlights on the road 
ahead of her, which at first she took for pigs. Coming closer, she saw 
that they were “bug-eyed” little “men” 3 ½ or 4 feet tall, gray in color 
and wearing capes, huddled in the road as if about to dig into it with 
a stick one of them was holding. One of the humanoids stepped aside to 
get out of her way, and looked right at her. He had a roundish head, 
with a slouch hat or cap on, huge eyes like saucers reflecting red, a 
long pointed nose, a small mouth, a sharp pointed chin, and long thin arms 
with claws, and short legs. His body was hidden by the cape. Mrs. 
Symmonds swerved past the dwarfs, then screamed out in fear, waking up her 
husband who was sleeping in the back of the car. When she told him what 
she had seen, he wanted to go back, but she refused.[Lorenzen a!
nd Lorenzen, _Flying Saucer Occupants_, p. 121; Vallee, _Passport to 
Magonia_, Case 365, pp. 249-250; Lorenzen, “UFO Occupants in the United 
States,” in Bowen, ed., _The Humanoids_, pp. 149-150; Stringfield, 
_Situation Red!_, pp.110-111; Bord and Bord, _Unexplained Mysteries of the 
20th Century_, pp. 150-151] 

Five years later, another weird dwarf humanoid was seen late at night 
along a roadside in Arizona by yet another startled motorist. One night 
in June 1960, a woman personally known to APRO director Coral Lorenzen 
was driving her family Cadillac, her husband and children asleep in the 
car, to California. Around midnight, about 15 miles east of Globe, 
Arizona, she saw a small, dark figure about 3 feet tall standing on the 
right side of the road, as if about to cross. It turned to face her as she 
slowed down, then ran off into the brush. “The second I saw that thing 
my heart came up into my mouth and my stomach did a flip-flop,” she 
recalled. The figure had broad shoulders, long arms, a flattened globular 
pumpkin-shaped head, and two glowing yellowish-orange eyes. When the 
dwarf was in side view, the witness saw a light beaming out beyond its 
face. She could not see the body clearly, but got an impression of hair 
or fur. Like Mrs. Symmonds’ husband, this witness’ husband also w!
anted to go back, but she wisely refused. As in the 1955 night-time 
roadside sightings by Mr. Hunnicutt in Branch Hill and Mrs. Symmonds in 
Stockton, the 1960 Globe, Arizona witness did not report seeing any 
unusual craft or vehicle. [Coral Lorenzen and Lorenzen, _Flying Saucer 
Occupants_, pp. 128-129; Lorenzen, “UFO Occupants in the United States,” in 
Bowen, ed., _The Humanoids_, pp. 159-160; Bord and Bord, _Unexplained 
Mysteries of the 20th Century_, pp. 152-153]
Two girls near Renton, Washington reportedly saw three 
non-human-appearing “men” one morning in August, 1965, according to a story in _Saucer 
News_, which did not give newspaper attribution--but Coral Lorenzen and 
APRO were also tipped off about this sighting by other sources. Around 
7:00 or 7:30 AM on August 13, Ellen G. Ryerson (16) and her sister 
Laura got out of their car on a highway near Renton to work in a bean field 
when they were approached by three “men” from the bean field. The 
beings were about 1.6 meters (a little over 5 feet) tall, with white-domed 
heads, protruding eyes “gray like stone,” large pores, and 
expressionless, deeply tanned faces. They wore sleeveless V-necked purple jerseys 
over white shirts. The frightened girls ran about 50 feet past the “men,” 
and when they looked back the beings had disappeared. As Coral Lorenzen 
noted, “No craft was seen in connection with this incident”--which 
nevertheless got written up in _Saucer News_ and then in her own a!
rticle on “UFO Occupants in the United States,” as well as in _Flying 
Saucer Review_ [Bowen, ed. _The Humanoids_, p. 169; Vallee, _Passport to 
Magonia_, Case 678. P. 313, citing _Flying Saucer Review_, 66, 2]

The Branch Hill, Stockton, and Globe sightings, especially, have gone 
down in the UFO literature as classic “Close Encounters III”--despite no 
mysterious craft actually being reported. Some Fortean and UFO writers, 
indeed, have themselves been aware of this paradox and its potential 
problems for interpretation. Thus, Janet and Colin Bord prefaced their 
discussion of the Branch Hill, Stockton, and Globe encounters by 
remarking that “Quite a lot of the non-human entities reported sound similar to 
the entities seen close to landed UFO’s” but admitting that “on these 
occasions the witness sees no UFO, so there is no certainty that the 
entities came from a UFO.” Indeed, the Bords felt, “it is difficult to be 
certain of anything with cases like these” as “all we have to go on are 
the witness reports.” However, the Stockton entities seen by Mrs. 
Symmonds “were engaged in that kind of puzzling, inconsequential activity 
which UFO entities often seem to demonstrate,” though “Mrs. Symm!
ands saw no UFO, only the entities” [_Unexplained Mysteries of the 20th 
Century_, p. 150.) On the other hand, the Lorenzens admitted that the 
June 1960 Globe, Arizona sighting “deals with a little man although 
there is no craft involved (_Flying Saucer Occupants_, p. 128). Stressing 
“the veracity of the observer and her husband’s verification of her 
near-hysteria,” and the close resemblance of the Globe “entity” to the 
“little men” seen near landed UFO’s in Venezuela in 1954, Coral Lorenzen 
felt that “despite the absence of a visible craft, the other three points 
make this incident acceptable, in my opinion, as a ‘UFO occupant’ 
sighting” [”UFO Occupants in the United States,” pp. 160-161]. However, she 
also headed her summary of the Ryerson girls’ 1965 Renton, Waashington 
bean field encounter “Entities--but no vehicle,” ending with the 
observation that “No craft was seen in connection with this incident” 
[_ibid._, p. 169].

The 1950's and early 1960's were a time when an “extraterrestrial 
spaceman” or “Martian” interpretation seemed the self-evidently obvious 
explanation for any strange humanoid, more so than at any time earlier or 
later. The late 1940's, when the “flying saucers” hit the headlines in 
the wake of Kenneth Arnold’s June 1947 Mount Rainier sighting of nine 
flying whatisits, and the July 1947 crash of an Air Force spy balloon--or 
*SOMETHING ELSE*?!--near Roswell NM, were the perfect time to launch a 
popular mythos of technologically advanced visitors--perhaps even 
invaders--from the skies. We had just finished one war very largely fought 
with massive air power, climaxing in the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and 
Nagasaki, following on Germany’s London blitz and the American 
fire-bombing of Dresden. We had won World War II--but were now entering a “Cold 
War” with out former Soviet ally, armed with who knew what secret 
high-tech super-weapons captured from our and their former Nazi enem!
ies--a “Cold War” that might become all too “hot” any day. Atomic war 
with our former Russian allies was a real possibility. We were also 
entering the “Space Age,” when real-life interplanetary travel within the 
lifetime of many people then living was a serious possibility for the 
first time in history. Reputable “mainstream” popular magazines, quoting 
savants like Werner von Braun, Hermann Oberth, Willy Ley, and Arthur C. 
Clarke, and not just science-fiction “pulps” with lurid covers, 
published lavishly illustrated articles on how we would build orbiting space 
stations, and reach the Moon and Mars, before the end of the 20th 
century. The cumulative evidence of all these developments was to make 
extraterrestrial visits to Earth seem a real, serious possibility to a large 
segment of the general public--and the most obvious explanation of 
various curious celestial phenomena.

All these social and cultural circumstances, well in place by 1947, 
only continued and deepened in the 1950's and early 1960's. The Soviet 
Sputnik launching, and America’s commitment to a “Space Race” with the 
Russians, made the Space Age officially part of the “real world” rather 
than “science-fiction.” Space exploration enthusiasts like von Braun, 
Oberth, Ley, and Clarke now seemed like true prophets more than ever. The 
Cold War Communist threat, not realistically likely to go away in the 
lifetime of anybody then living, made many of us all the more willing to 
seriously consider the possibility of *OTHER*, more cosmic, threats and 
subversions as well. 

The UFO phenomenon, too, obligingly “escalated” itself. The George 
Adamski type “contactees” were an easily dismissible laughingstock, whom 
serious UFO researchers resented for making a serious mystery look 
ridiculous. However, there were also the less easily dismissed reports, 
beginning to proliferate in the mid-1950's, of furtive or even aggressive 
dwarfish humanoid UFO occupants, who seemed more likely to just possibly 
be the extraterrestrial “real thing” than the contactees’ benevolent, 
handsome “Space Brothers” spouting pacifist, Theosophist, and “New Age” 
platitudes. In 1954-1955, especially, the media were saturated with 
stories of bizarre dwarf humanoids seen in conjunction with “flying 
saucers” by dozens or scores of seemingly reliable witnesses in 
Europe--especially France, Italy, and Belgium--and South America. In the good old 
USA itself, too, the Sutton farmhouse between Kelly and Hopkinsville, 
Kentucky, was besieged by aggressive, grotesque-looking “little men” !
from a landed “flying saucer” on the night of August 22, 1955.

Robert Hunnicutt and Margaret Symmonds did not actually see any “flying 
saucers” at Branch Hill or Stockton in 1955. However, they saw 
mysterious dwarfish humanoids very similar to those so frequently encountered 
near “saucers” in Kentucky, South America, France, and Italy. The same 
was true, a few years later, of the pumpkin-headed dwarf seen by Coral 
Lorenzen’s friend near Globe, Arizona in 1960--and of the three men” 
encountered in the Renton, Washington bean field by the Ryerson sisters in 
1965. No “saucer” was actually seen--but they seemed so similar to 
familiar “saucer” creatures. Nothing seemed more obvious or natural than to 
lump together the Branch Hill, Stockton, Globe, or Renton reports with 
cases where similar creatures were seen in conjunction with “saucers”!

Also, there were fewer non-extraterrestrial interpretations of strange 
humanoids available to the general public, or even to Fortean and 
paranormalist writers, in the 1950's and early 1960's than we have at our 
disposal now. The “ET” hypothesis seemed to be the “only game in town” 
aside from debunking skepticism. For one thing, we should recall, in the 
1950's and 1960's the general public was far less “cryptid”‑conscious 
than is the case now, when books, articles, and websites on Bigfoot, 
“Lake Monsters,” Chupacabras, the West Virginia “Mothman,” “big cats,” 
“mystery pumas,” “Black Dogs,”“frog-man,” “reptile-men,” and scores of 
other “mystery beasts” and “alien animals” compete in the popular “true 
weird mysteries” market with those on UFO’s and abductions. Aside from a 
few pioneering proto‑cryptozoologists like Willy Ley, Bernard 
Heuvelmans, and Ivan Sanderson, most people in the 1950's only knew about the 
Himalayan "Abominable Snowman" and Scotland's "Nessie," !
maybe also vague recollections of supposedly real-life 18th and 19th 
century “sea serpent” sightings--joined in the late 1950's by Bigfoot. 
Likewise, the paraphysical, "psychic," "metaphysical," occult, 
other‑dimensional, and "ultraterrestrial" theories of UFO's, aliens, and 
"cryptids" popularized by writers like John A. Keel and Jacques Vallee 
wouldn't come into fashion until the late 1960's and early 1970's, with 
Vallee’s _Passport to Magonia_ (1969) and Keel’s _Strange Creatures from 
Time and Space_ (1970) and _UFO’s: Operation Trojan Horse_ (1970). Keel 
and Vallee, followed by other writers in the 1970's and 1980's, 
popularized the theory that modern encounters UFO’s, “aliens,” Bigfoot, and 
“Lake Monsters”might reflect a contemporary manifestation of the entities 
or phenomena underlying yesteryear’s trolls, gnomes, fairies, elves, 
leprechauns, jinn, angels, and demons. However, it just didn't occur to 
anybody in the 1950's and early 1960's that our planet might be teeming 
with all sorts of "little people," "otherfolk," "frog‑men," and 
"lizard‑men" as long-standing features of our environmen!
t, such as Forteans have become more familiar with in more recent 
post-Keel, post-Vallee decades.

Cryptozoologist Loren Coleman has linked occult and “metaphysical” 
theories linking Bigfoot to UFO’s and aliens, and Bigfoot, UFO’s, and 
aliens alike to ghosts, spirits, demons, fairies, and other-dimensional 
visitors, to the general cultural and social “high strangeness” of the 
1960's and 1970's in _Bigfoot: The True Story of Apes in America_ (New 
York: Paraview and Simon & Schuster, 2003). Coleman’s main focus is Bigfoot 
and similar “mystery primates,” but his historical sketch of theories 
about them is equally applicable to the history of theories about other 
“mystery critters.” Coleman is skeptical of such occult, paraphysical, 
or other-dimensional theories connecting Bigfoot UFO's, aliens, ghosts, 
and spirits. For him, Bigfoot is a real flesh‑and‑blood animal of an 
unknown biological species, not a ghost, spirit, psychic projection, 
thought‑form, space alien, or visitor from the “fourth dimension.” He 
flatly declares (_Bigfoot!_, p. 177): “And just in !
case you are wondering, no, I don’t think Bigfoot come from UFO’s or 
the collective unconscious.”However, he notes the popularity of such 
theories, and devotes a chapter on “High Strangeness” to examining them. 
Such theories, he notes, originated and proliferated in the 1960's and 
1970's, a period of general social and cultural “high strangeness.” 
Almost all the UFO-related Bigfoot cases, he shows, can be linked to those 
times of “high strangeness,” the researchers who emerged at that time, 
and the often-cited books and cases from those days. Coleman notes that 
he has placed “some of the 1970's Bigfoot reports, for the first time, 
in a cultural and temporal context,” as the “significant point” he is 
“attempting to make” in _Bigfoot!_(Loren Coleman private e-mail to T. 
Peter Park, September 24, 2003).

Bigfoot, Coleman observes, is not only ”a creature of the wild,” but 
also “often what people want to make of it--and it was certainly so 
during one recent period of high strangeness.”.In the 1960's, he notes, “we 
all woke up and found the world had grown decidedly weirder,” with “the 
antiwar, peace, and hippie movements,” the “music revolution and new 
sexual freedoms,” the “breakdown of the Eisenhower doldrums and the shock 
of the JFK assassinations,” “the Beatles and Vietnam” (_Bigfoot!_, p. 
170). “Something” happened “that changed us all,” and “it altered the 
landscape of Bigfoot studies too.” From “the Patterson-Gimlin film to the 
Minnesota Iceman,” a “hint of this bizarre new age was in the air.” It 
was era when “several threads of the inexplicable overlapped, danced 
about together, and merged,” when “Bigfoot met UFO’s, cattle mutilations, 
and other bizarre imports from the world of the paranormal.” It was, 
Coleman feels, “an unfortunate marriage that still scars the fie!
ld” of Bigfoot research. “Most unfortunate of all” was “the mix of 
UFO’s and Bigfoot” (p. 170). 

Coleman quotes Ufologist Jerome Clark, who noted in his _High 
Strangeness: UFO’s from 1960 through 1979_ (Detroit: Omnigraphics, 1996) that 
this was a period when people spoke “falsely or sincerely” of seeing 
“hairy bipeds” in conjunction with UFO’s (_Bigfoot!_, p. 170). In the 
1970's, many UFO researchers--Peter Guttilla in California, Stan Gordon and 
Berthold Schwarz in Pennsylvania, APRO director Coral Lorenzen, Leonard 
Stringfield, Leo Sprinkle, Barbara Ann Slate, Alan Berry, Andrew 
Collins, John S. Derr, R. Martin Wolf, Steven Mayne, etc.--began discussing 
what they “saw as the overlapping nature of Bigfoot and UFO 
reports...resulting in cleat-cut Bigfoot accounts appearing in the UFO literature.” 
In New York, John A. Keel worked together the material he’d gathered in 
Point Pleasant, West Virginia in 1966-1967 into his books _Strange 
Creatures from Time and Space_ (1970) and _The Mothman Prophecies_ (1975). 
In _Strange Creatures_, “typical of the new wave of paperback b!
ooks that would capture the mood of the times,” Keel “lumped Bigfoot, 
dog killings, Mothman, Men-in-Black, and UFO’s in the same vortex” 
(Coleman, _Bigfoot!_, pp. 170-171).

Keel introduced Jerome Clark to Coleman in 1969, and they “carried on a 
lively exchange of stories and ideas.” Coleman himself began 
investigating reports of creatures with glowing red eyes, such as those as those 
haunting the cornfields of Enfield, Illinois, in 1973, while Clark was 
“digging into airship reports and exploring fairylore and ufology.” By 
the mid-1970's, Clark and Coleman coauthored articles merging their two 
fields of study, “full of straight data as well as sociological and 
psychological assessments,” including the “now rejected Jungian 
hypothesis” set forth in their _Creatures of the Outer Edge_ (New York: Warner 
Books, 1978). Thus, Coleman “must plead to being partially responsible” 
himself, with Jerome Clark, “for the amalgamation of Bigfoot and UFO’s, 
which happened in this era of ‘high strangeness’” (_Bigfoot!_, pp. 
171-172).

“But today,” Coleman continues (p. 172), “having reclaimed the firmer 
zoological and anthropological foundations of hominology, I reject such 
notions, as does Clark.” In the late 1990's, Clark looked back on the 
“UFO-Bigfoot connection,” stating: “These are huge suppositions, tied to 
small evidence. At this stage, given the limitations of human 
knowledge, there is hardly anything about Hairy Bipeds, or their possible 
connection with the UFO phenomena, that can be stated with any degree of 
confidence” (quoted in Coleman, _Bigfoot!_, p. 172).. Coleman himself 
“would agree wholeheartedly,” but also warns, “let’s not toss out the bona 
fide Bigfoot cases with the UFO bathwater.” The UFO literature, he 
notes, contains many “alleged UFO-Bigfoot reports.” Australian ufologist 
Marc Moravec even published _The UFO-Anthropoid Catalogue_ in 1980, 
bringing together a number of these alleged UFO-Bigfoot reports (_Bigfoot!_, 
p. 172). 
Ultimately, though, Coleman’s assessment of UFO-Bigfoot reports is 
skeptical. “Many Bigfoot-UFO cases,” he believes, can be “attributed to 
coincidence, mistakes, and outright hoaxing.” Witnesses of unusual 
phenomena, Coleman notes, “tend to group all weird things they experience 
together, whether related or not.” A “puzzled witness” often “just doesn’t 
know how to differentiate one mystery event from another.” Adding to 
the problem, Coleman continues, was “the practice by ufologists in the 
1960's and 1970's of asking witnesses to recall everything strange that 
had happened to them in the days before and after their encounter.” This 
“unfortunate situation,” he feels, “ makes separating the valuable 
Bigfoot case from its UFO underpinnings problematic at best.” (_Bigfoot!_, 
p. 176) .

There is a less negative converse, however, to the “high strangeness” 
theories criticized by Loren Coleman. By suggesting a possible 
connection between Bigfoot, UFO’s, UFO occupants, Mothman, and more traditional 
weirdies like ghosts, demons, fairies, trolls, and “little people,” the 
“high strangeness” Fortean writers of the 1960's and 1970's 
familiarized the Fortean and paranormalist reading public with the existence of a 
surprisingly wide and diverse variety of bizarre humanoid entities, 
some of them similar to those reported in UFO “Close Encounters III,” and 
others closely resembling traditional folkloric descriptions of 
fairies, trolls, “little people,” and “merpeople” (mermaids and mermen), 
described by seemingly reliable contemporary and recent eyewitnesses. 
Regardless of how one explained such entities (as flesh-and-blood biological 
creatures presumably sharing a common ultimate evolutionary ancestry 
with more familiar animals, or as ghosts, spirits, angels, demons, !
“elementals” “thought-forms,” “psychic projections,”temporarily 
materialized “archetypes” from the Jungian “Collective Unconscious,” or 
visitors from another dimension), they seemed like old, quasi-permanent 
denizens of our planetary environment, sharing our biosphere with _Homo 
sapiens_, who have “always” been here with us all the time for generations, 
centuries, or millennia--rather than simply recent “high-tech” 
interplanetary or interstellar visitors from Mars, Alpha Centauri, or Zeta 
Reticuli! The “high strangeness” writers brought such creatures to our 
attention, starting in the late 1960's.
These “mystery creatures” include “merely animalistic” frog-men and 
lizard-men who seem natural candidates for the attention of the 
cryptozoologists who study Bigfoot, “mystery cats,” “Lake Monsters,” and 
Chupacrabras. However, they also include more puzzling entities with definite 
“civilized” or “technological” traits. One of Robert Hunnicutt’s 
“froglike”March 1955 Branch Hill dwarfs held a dark stick or chain shooting 
off bluish-white sparks. Margaret Symmonds’ July 1955 Stockton “bug-eyed” 
little “men” wore clothing, and one of them seemed to be digging into 
the ground with some sort of stick. The pumpkin-headed June 1960 Globe, 
Arizona dwarf showed a light beaming out of its face when in side view. 
Ellen and Laura Ryerson’s August 1965 Renton, Washington “men,” like 
Mrs. Symmonds’ Stockton dwarves, were clothed, wearing purple jerseys and 
white shirts. All this is in marked contrast to numerous “frog-man” and 
“lizard-man” reports with no mention of clothes, tools, weapon!
s, or gadgets.. Thus, for instance, Robert Hunnicutt’s own home town, 
Loveland, Ohio, not too far from Branch Hill, was the home of the 
“Loveland Frog,” a 3- to 5-foot-tall leathery-skinned creature with a 
frog-like or lizard-like face seen near the Little Miami River in Loveland in 
the 1970's. There were reports of a large frog living in that river 
going back to the 1950's, while in 1985 two boys reportedly saw a frog the 
size of a big dog by the river. It has been suggested that the 
“Loveland Frog” was actually an iguana, or perhaps a monitor lizard. A 
“Lizardman” seen in New Jersey in the 1970's, described as having a towering 
greenish scaly body, reptilian face, bulging frog-like eyes, and broad 
lipless mouth has also been tentatively identified as a possible iguana 
or monitor lizard [Bord and Bord, _Unexplained Mysteries of the 20th 
Century_, pp. 246-247, on “Loveland Frog” and New Jersey “Lizardman”] Both 
the “Loveland Frog” and the New Jersey “Lizardman” have been per!
ceived in strictly cryptozoological terms, with no suggestion of their 
being extraterrestrials from a UFO.

Jacques Vallee listed a European “frog-man” encounter from the 1930's 
in his _Passport to Magonia_ Appendix on UFO landing reports even though 
no UFO was mentioned. In the Fall of 1938 (or perhaps 1939), according 
to a personal communication to Vallee, two persons saw a strange 
"frog‑man" 1 meter (about 40 inches) tall at Juminda on the Estonian coast. 
The “frog-man”had a round head, no neck, and a hump in front of the 
body. Its mouth was a large, straight slit, the eyes were like smaller 
slits, while its hands were normal. The creature’s skin was brownish‑green, 
compared by the witnesses to pegamoid (a kind of plastic or imitation 
leather). It walked in a peculiar "but elegant" fashion, its head waving 
up and down while its legs moved "carefully." When pursued, the 
creature accelerated very fast, with feet "fluttering." About 100 meters (325 
feet) away from the witnesses, it vanished completely. [Vallee, 
Passport to Magonia, Case 49, pp. 189-190]. Vallee took it!
 for granted that the Juminda “frog-man” must have been a UFO occupant, 
though at least from his description the creature was no more 
“civilized” or “technological” than the “Loveland Frog.”

The Juminda “frog-man” resembles grotesque small humanoids seen by 
Beryl Hickey and her father at Mandurah, Western Australia, in their house 
one night in 1930, and by a man gathering Christmas trees on December 
15, 1956 in woods near Derry, New Hampshire--in both cases, again with 
no mention of a UFO. The Mandurah creature was about 20 inches tall, 
glistened as though wet or covered with oil, and had pink skin, big ears, 
a wide slit mouth, bulging eyes covered with a film and “perfectly 
formed little hands and feet.” It squeaked in fright when the Hickey father 
captured and dragged it outside with a prawning net. The Derry dwarf 
was green and naked, with a wrinkled skin resembling elephant hide, a 
high domed head, ears like a bloodhound’s, eyes with a film like a 
snake’s, merely two holes for a nose, short arms and legs, hands like stumps, 
and feet with no toes. It a screeched when the witness tried to catch 
it. The witness then fled [Bord and Bord, _Unexplained Mysteries o!
f the 20th Century_, pp. 147, 151-152].
Just a few “revisionist thoughts” of mine on “Close Encounter III” 
reports!
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Strange fossil defies grouping 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4156544.stm 
Last Updated: Wednesday, 17 August 2005, 12:32 GMT 13:32 UK 

Strange fossil defies grouping 

A strange fossil creature from the early Cambrian Period is baffling 
scientists because it does not fit neatly into any existing animal 
groups. The 525 million-year-old soft-bodied animal might have belonged to a 
now extinct mollusc-like phylum, scientists from America and China say. 
Other researchers have suggested the creature could represent an early 
annelid or arthropod. Details are published in Proceedings of the Royal 
Society B. The 5-10cm-long (2-4 inch) creature, Vetustodermis planus, 
had a flattened body and horizontal fins which, researchers think, could 
have been used to support it as it moved along the sea floor. It also 
had well developed senses, including a pair of eyes on stalks. The 
trouble is the animal did not possess a key set of features, or characters, 
which placed it clearly within any known group. When it was first 
described in 1979, 
Vetustodermis was included in the annelid category. Later researchers 
argued against this classification, saying it was, in fact, either an 
arthropod or a mollusc. Flat foot According to the latest study, the 
weird creature seems closest to molluscs, primarily because it had a snail 
or slug-like flat foot. However, the researchers say, it does not sit 
happily in this group. "Phyla are defined by an organism having a set of 
features called characters, and currently there are no animals that we 
know of which contain the set of characters that Vetustodermis has," 
co-author David Bottjer, of the University of Southern California, US, 
told the BBC News website. "The phylum with which it shares the most 
characters is the Mollusca, but squeezing Vetustodermis into the mollusca 
is a somewhat messy job." 

Since Vetustodermis requires some "pushing and pulling" to force it 
into any known phylum, Professor Bottjer and his colleagues are tempted to 
speculate it belonged to a different group entirely; one which 
flourished and faded within the Cambrian. "We have always been intrigued by the 
many molluscan features of these fossils, but in the great menagerie of 
organisms that have inhabited Earth through life's long history, we may 
come to conclude that Vetustodermis indeed represents a new phylum," he 
said. Jonathan Todd, a palaeontologist from the Natural History Museum, 
London, UK, is also mystified by the baffling animal. "It is an 
intriguing beast," he told the BBC News website. "It is another strange thing 
from the Cambrian. It doesn't look much like an arthropod and I don't 
find it molluscan affinities particularly convincing." 

Evolutionary tree 

However, Dr Todd is reluctant to create a whole new phylum to 
accommodate Vetustodermis; that, he thinks, would be premature. "Some scientists 
have thought that there were so many distinct phyla in the Cambrian," 
he said. "They came to that conclusion because they were not thinking in 
the phylogenetic sense, they were thinking 'hey, that is a unique set 
of features - it must be a distinct phylum'." So rather than creating 
new phyla every time something doesn't fit an existing one, the really 
interesting exercise, Dr Todd thinks, is to establish just how 
Vetustodermis slotted into the greater evolutionary tree. If, indeed, it did 
belong to a different phylum, how did that group connect to the molluscs, 
annelids and arthropods? "We don't really know the phylo-genetic 
relationships between the extant phyla," he said. "Molecular genetics has only 
gone so far. But recent phyla have got to connect somehow. These 
fossils really offer the opportunity to tie together recent phyla." 

Best regards,
T. Peter <tpeterpark@erols.com>
Garden City South, LI, NY

Leaving Park Place
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The ‘TAL’ ZONE
The Research & writings of ‘TAL’

Sub-Urbia:The Colonization of Underground Space
Fred Hapgood *Originally published in Wired April 2003.
Excerpts from : http://fhapgood.fastmail.fm/underground.htm 

The world’s cities may be overcrowded, and the suburbs that surround 
them choked by unchecked sprawl, but there’s a huge amount of undeveloped 
space, right at our feet, underground. How huge? Huge as in a hundred 
quadrillion cubic feet in the first mile under just the metropolitan 
areas in this country. You could fit twice the population of the United 
States in the first mile under metropolitan Los Angeles to a density of 
one million cubic feet per person. 
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*In the US, there are urban undergrounds in Atlanta, Crystal City (VA), 
Chicago, Dallas, and Houston; outside this country, in Toronto, 
Helsinki, Tokyo, Tsukuba, and Tenjin in Japan, Paris, Sidney, Shanghai, 
Moscow, Oslo, and Stockholm, among others. 

The Underground City 
Excerpts from : http://fhapgood.fastmail.fm/montreal.htm 

...a visit to the great underground city of Montreal comes as a bit of 
an eye-opener. 500,000 people are said to pass through the Underground 
every day; some might suspect even that number was an underestimate. 

Perhaps a dozen cities* around the globe are experimenting with growing 
"roots" -- passageways that contain or give access to various urban 
activities. Montreal is unique in that its Underground is by far the 
largest and most complicated. It is where to go to see what a semi-mature 
underground city looks and feels like; what another city embarking on 
this new direction of development be like in thirty or forty years. A 
planner thinking seriously about underground development and the issues of 
cost and design that come with that commitment might well decide to do 
some of that thinking in Montreal. The paradox and lesson of the 
Montreal Underground is that it was not built for any of the good reasons 
mentioned above: not to preserve old buildings or make cities livable or 
clear space for gardens. It wasn't planned at all. The parties that 
dropped this seed had no idea of what they were starting. 

In the late 50's some developers became interested in connecting an 
office building then under construction with a railroad station that lay 
just across a major avenue. The obvious choice of a structure to support 
that function was an overpass running over the street. However, the 
city authorities disliked overpasses -- they felt they scarred the skyline 
of the city -- and refused permission to build one. The only choice 
left was diving under the street. That seemed like no option at all, since 
tunnels cost money. 
Then one night, perhaps when everyone was sitting around exhausted, 
their coffee cups overflowing with butts, some bright soul suggested going 
ahead with the tunnel, only building in some commercial spaces and 
renting them out to upscale boutiques. The rents could then be used to 
defray the cost of construction. The numbers were crunched and the idea was 
taken up. 
Despite the stereotypes of underground life, the Underground does not 
feel oppressive or confining. 
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Moles Under Houston
http://fhapgood.fastmail..fm/mtunnel.htm

Tunnel Boring Machine History 
http://fhapgood.fastmail.fm/TBM.html

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Info from the latest issue of SAUCER SMEAR: 

In previous issues of "Smear" we have told you a little about the 
unique expedition billed as a "Voyage to Our Hollow Earth". 

Now, by phoning 800-937-7238, we have obtained a color brochure about 
this trip, due to take place June 26, 2006 to July 19, 2006 - although 
the cover erroneously says 2005. (We have learned that the trip was 
postponed for a year, for some reason.) 

The brochure mercifully leaves out the endless Biblical & religious 
ravings found on the net, and sticks pretty much to the facts. One of the 
sponsors is Steve Currey from Utah, who is apparently a Mormon. Steve 
claims to have made sensational river trips in various remote parts of 
the world. Now he is going to charter a Russian nuclear ice-breaker, 
equipped to carry one hundred passengers in luxury, for a cost of about 
$20,000 each. There is also a crew of 140. About 40 passengers have 
already signed up! 

The opening into the Hollow Earth is thought to be at 84.4 north 
latitude, 141 east longitude. However, the brochure states that "there are NO 
GUARANTEES that this expedition will actually reach the Inner Earth". 
Elsewhere it states that if the Inner Earth is reached, some people may 
want to stay behind with the friendly (how do we know that?) people who 
live there. 

Thus it would seem that the termination date (July 19) is very 
flexible. 

We spoke by phone to Rodney Cluff, co-sponsor of the expedition, who is 
also a Mormon and a True Believer in the Hollow Earth. He plans to stay 
there, with his wife. He says that living conditions are ideal, like in 
the Garden of Eden,...... There is a monorail leading to the capital 
city and other goodies that we did not take time to ask about. One source 
for these beliefs is "The Smoky Cod"; written in 1906 by George Willis 
Emerson and yes, there are UFOs, according to Mr. Cluff. 

Why do we discuss all this in a saucer zine? Well, our friend Dennis 
Crenshaw, former editor of "The Hollow Earth Insider", has a keen 
interest in this - and, there's perhaps one chance in a million that UFOs, 
friendly people, and gawd knows what else can actually be found somewhere 
far beneath our feet. At least it's an intriguing idea!... 

[Visit the longest running “flying saucer” publication in the world, 
Saucer Smear at:  http://www.martiansgohome.com/smear/ … Dennis. (And 
thanks for the plug James and ‘TAL‘).]

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Blue Beings from the Inner Earth

An encounter with strange creatures from underground cities.
This planet still holds many mysteries, some that reach back to the 
dark, distant past and survive in the present as legends and folklore. 
Cultures around the world tell of beings that live inside the earth. Are 
they real or myth? Zephanaiah believes he actually encountered these 
beings on the island of Samoa, where he lives. This is Zephanaiah’s story. 

I am a firm believer that the Pacific holds the keys to many of the 
earth’s still unsolved mysteries, ranging from the spiritual to the 
scientific. The Pacific should be explored. Many times I have read about 
beings from the “inner earth” or “hollow earth.” What if I were to tell you 
that an entrance into the hollow earth can be found right here on the 
various islands of Samoa? 

The cave 
I was about 13 or 14 when my cousins and I stumbled into a cave many of 
us had only heard of off the cliff of a village called Pagai. Our 
grandparents always warned us about the cave and not to venture in to it. 

As we got about 30 or 40 feet away, we could see a bluish-green figure 
leap out of the cave and into the water. This being had fins for feet 
and webbed hands. Its head was humanoid-like. We couldn't make out a 
face because of the distance, but its eyes we would never forget. They 
were glowing bluish-green light. As it entered the water, we could follow 
how deep, how fast and where it was going. It traveled like a very big 
fish. It was gone just as soon as it hit the water. It spoke a language 
none of us understood, let alone ever heard before. …

Excerpted from 
http://paranormal.about.com/od/othercreatures/a/aa071105.htm



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REPTILIAN WATCH

John Rhodes Public Appearance Calendar 
http://www.reptoids.com/calendar.htm 

UPCOMING
INTERVIEWS and CONFERENCES

SEPTEMBER 2 - 3, 2005
"NightSearch" http://www.nightsearch.net/
With Eddie Middleton


CONFERENCE APPEARANCE
OCTOBER 15th, 16th, 2005
THE BAY AREA UFO  http://www.thebayareaufoexpo.com/

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PRESS RELEASE
This news release was distributed by the PR Web Newswire 

The Secret of Solomon’s Temple Discovered
(PRWEB) August 17, 2005 -- For centuries Freemason’s, Knight’s Templar 
and a whole host of other interested parties have striven to uncover 
the truth behind the building made famous by the Bible and numerous films 
and books. Scholars and academics have failed utterly to find its 
location or any archaeological remains let alone the real reason for its 
perceived importance. Conspiracy theorists have accused the Freemasons, 
the Catholic Church and even the Jewish people of covering up the hidden 
legacy of Solomon’s great building. 

Now, Philip Gardiner, in his controversial new book "Gnosis: The Secret 
of Solomon’s Temple Revealed" is finally going to disclose the truth. 

The discovery came during the research for other books, when Gardiner 
unraveled the most arcane and Gnostic language of our ancestors – thus 
opening up a Pandora’s Box of ancient secrets, one of which was the 
Temple of Solomon. 

The secret is not going to be popular with Biblical scholars and 
Christians, as it truly lies within the folds of a deep-seated psychological 
method of self-improvement. Gardiner describes the ancient wisdom 
literature as profound and extremely revealing, not only of the sacred past 
but also of ourselves. 

Moving through the revelations of the Bible, the Koran and other 
religious texts Gardiner also delves into the “hidden” knowledge of the 
alchemists and the infamous Knights Templar to make public the secret once 
and for all. 

Thousands of years after this fabled King of Israel supposedly built 
his huge edifice, Philip Gardiner reveals the startling truth which has 
ramifications not only in historical and religious circles but also for 
world peace. 

The book is available now from bookstores or online at Amazon. 

Book release date November 1, 2005. 

Contact: 
info@philipgardiner.net for proof/review copies or to book events, 
interviews and book signings. 

Publisher: William Ernest Publishing Ltd, Nottingham: 
Tel 01773 764288 or Fax 01773 764282. 

Email the author direct on the.templar@virgin.net 

Websites: www.gardinerosborn.com, www.philipgardiner.net, 
www.theshiningones.com, www.serpentgrail.com

Book: Size 210x148mm Portrait. Paperback. 288 pages with illustrations. 
Price £14.95 UK $29.95 US

Distributor: Gazelle (UK). Gary Allen (Australia)

Website: http://www.philipgardiner.net 
More Information: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/8/prweb272954.htm
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I want to welcome my friend Paul Jay Steward to the information 
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his readers information in an enjoyable way, but his research is first 
class.

Give Paul your support and watch the information on his brand-new Web 
site grow into an excellent resource of caving information.  You might 
want to start with “Caving Articles” at:
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AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST:

Urban Legend Slideshow:
Strange-Headed Creature

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_slideshow1.htm

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