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Re: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: ODBC Updated - DDBs now won't open!!!
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><snip><BR></DIV>
<DIV></FONT>>Hey, how much fun would printed circuit design be without these
little <BR>>challenges?<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I don't know...but I'd like to find out :)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="" size=3>I have things working again
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="" size=3>Brute force caveman approach
taken:</FONT></DIV>
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size=2> <FONT size=3>1. I deleted the offending ODBC
drivers</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=3></FONT> <FONT
size=3>2. Re-installed W98 to replace the drivers...but they were not
replaced</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT size=3></FONT> <FONT
size=3>3. Re-installed P99SE (using <EM>REPAIR</EM> option). This put the ODBC
drivers back and the thing has come back to life.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="" size=3>The original problem that precipitated
all this soft surgery still remains. When generating the Gerbers for the PCB in
question Protel spits out the error message:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2> <FONT
size=3>Design Explorer Error</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT
size=3></FONT> [<FONT
size=3>Microsoft][ODBC Microdoft Access 97 Driver] Too few parameters. Expected
30.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I then press IGNORE and proceed</DIV>
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<DIV>Upon loding the files in Camtastic (the freebie) I get 6 error messages -
Invalid 0-Radius Arc.</DIV>
<DIV>These arcs appear to be on the overlay layers: 1 on the Bottom; 5 on the
Top</DIV>
<DIV>While coords are given they are invisible and cannot be selected or
deleted.</DIV>
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<DIV>The Gerber files for the Top and Bottom Overlays seem to be OK in all other
respects on screen though.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think at this stage I will send off the files I have for manufacture and
hope the indicated errors do not upset the PCB people too much.</DIV>
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<DIV>It would however be nice to know whats going on here.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><snip></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>>To answer another current question, it's obvious that I haven't
seriously <BR>>tested W2000, but we have many reports of stable operation of
W2000 and <BR>>Protel. </DIV>
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size=2><snip></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I have read many favourable comments here regarding W2000. The request has
been made to the powers that be for an upgrade.</DIV>
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<DIV>>I still haven't done it myself, but I should have installed W2000. The
only <BR>>reason I tolerate system problems, plus the resource shortage
described in <BR>>other recent posts, is inertia, and the lack of a Round
Tuit. </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="" size=3>I myself have been trying to find an
ongoing and reliable source of Tuits. If my efforts bear fruit I will be sure to
forward the necessary ordering information your way Mr. Lomax.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=3>Many thanks to Messrs Karavidas and Lomax
for your thoughts on this matter. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT
color=#000000>For myself, this has all been a little too stressful. I think I
will now have a nice lie down.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000>The Olympic torch is due past here
tomorrow morning so I won't worry about the vagaries of Mr. Protel until
tomorrow afternoon</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=3>Good Night all,</FONT></FONT><FONT
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=3>LINDEN DOYLE<BR>Product Development
Engineer<BR>Zener Electric Pty Ltd</FONT></FONT><FONT size=3></FONT></DIV>
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