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A Talk with Ruth Montgomery
by Steve and Nancy Freier

During and after a successful career as a newspaper reporter in Washington D.C., Ruth Montgomery nearly single-handedly sparked the beginning of the New Age with the publication of her many books on psychic phenomena. Her 1965 book, A Gift of Prophecy, was about the well-known Chicago psychic, Jeanne Dixon. The success of this book led Ruth into what was to become a life-long investigation into such topics as: alternative healing, psychic phenomena, reincarnation, ET's and Walk-Ins. Please note that Ruth was doing all of this work at a time when the scoffers and cynics were in the majority.
For Ruth Montgomery, a past president of the National Press Club, reporting her new found interest in the occult was simply not enough. Through a group of non-physical entities she refers to as, "The Guides," she has channeled volumes of information through her typewriter to the public in a series of best-selling books, including: A Search For The Truth, Companions Along The Way, A Gift of Prophecy, Aliens Among Us, The World Before, Born to Heal, Here and Hereafter, The World Beyond, Strangers Among Us, Threshold to Tomorrow (a book about Walk-Ins), and Herald of the New Age.
This conversation with Ruth Montgomery took place at the Walk-Ins for Evolution Grand Gathering in Minneapolis. Interview conducted by Steve Freier and Nancy Freier with special thanks to Liz Nelson, editor of WE (Walk-Ins for Evolution) Newsletter for making interview arrangements, to Jane Larson for providing the transportation and to Pam Kutok for her transcribing skills.

Steve: Ruth, welcome to Minneapolis and to the "Walk-In for Evolution Grand Gathering."
Ruth: It's nice to be here, thank-you.
Steve: Let me get started by talking about the mid-60's when you were a reporter in Washington D.C. The subjects of occultism, alternative healing and Walk-In's were pretty far-out topics then. Would you briefly explain what sparked your interest in the psychic phenomena and why you gave up your syndicated column for writing books on these topics?
Ruth: I gave up my syndicated column when my husband retired and we moved to Mexico in 1970. Before then I had been a syndicated Washington columnist reporting on politics and world affairs for many, many years and was not in the least interested in (psychic phenomena) until I was assigned to do a story on séances. It was a 7 or 8 part series for the International News Service that ran in nearly every paper in the country. I just thought it was a lark, of course, but I had a great deal of fun reporting exactly what happened when I would go to these séances, and I told what I thought was fakery. Frankly, I told the things that I had no explanation for and couldn't explain it but to say, 'this is what it seems to be.' Then, I thought I was finished with psychic phenomena, but a year later Arthur Ford came to Washington. At that time, he was America's most famous psychic. I saw an ad in the paper where he was going to make a speech to establish a new organization called Spiritual Frontiers Fellowship. I had kept running across his name in books that I read at the Library of Congress to prepare for that series, so I went to hear him. After his talk, I introduced myself and asked if I could have an interview with him for my column. When I arrived at his suite I rushed around pulling down shades because all the other séances I had been to were in dark rooms (laughter), and he said, "Oh, you don't need to do that, I'll just tie a handkerchief around my eyes." So we settled down and he went into trance. Pretty soon my father came through Arthur, along with other people, including absolute strangers all the time, you see, with the lights on. I could take notes like I would do for a regular interview and was able therefore, to check out all these stories later. I made several long distance calls the next day and every single one of (Arthur's stories) proved to be absolutely true! I wrote a big piece on that sitting with Arthur Ford for the Sunday edition.
Steve: Was that the incident that got you going?
Ruth: Well, psychic phenomena became very interesting to me. Every time Arthur Ford came to Washington after that, my husband and I would meet with him. Arthur turned out to be a delightful man and I began inviting friends of mine over when he would come, including members of Congress. They would be absolutely aghast after he went into trance and began telling them about people they knew... who came through by name about incidents from their past. It was sensational!
Steve: Speaking of the Washington elite, what Presidents have you known?
Ruth: I've known all of them since Roosevelt. I was the president of Roosevelt's White House Press Conference Association, and was president when he died.
Nancy: Were any of these Presidents interested in psychic phenomena?
Ruth: At that time I wasn't interested in it, so we didn't even talk about it.
Steve: In A Search for Truth you said there were certain dangers inherent in pursuing this investigation. What gave you the courage to explore New Age topics when you were so much in the mainstream to begin with?
Ruth: Well, believe me, it was a risky proposition for me because I had established myself. My columns were syndicated worldwide and appeared in many other countries. After I had continued this exploration, Arthur Ford told me that he was getting psychic messages that I had the ability to develop automatic writing. So I worked at that and suddenly, (the writing) began. I thought it was funny. I remember one morning, after I had been sitting for 10 days, at the same time each morning, and holding a pencil with my eyes closed after I had been meditating - absolutely nothing happened. I thought it was funny that on the 10th day, it was suddenly, as if a great hand reached over mine and the pencil began going around and around in circles and figure-8's and I couldn't drop it. Finally it let go and I dropped the pencil and went on to the White House. I was due for a press conference. Later that afternoon, a friend of mine, who was getting automatic writing, called and said, "I did some automatic writing this morning and it said 'now Ruth can do this!' I started laughing and said I'll tell you that Ruth can do figure-8's and draw circles! She said, "That's marvelous, that's the way it always starts!"
Nancy: That's about how I started too!
Ruth: Well, she said, they are expressing their glee at finally establishing communication. She said not to fail to do it tomorrow, and from then on the writing came. The guides known as, "Arthur (Ford) and The Group" came through, and every morning they were pouring out all this beautiful philosophy that ended up in A Search for the Truth. They wanted me to write a book, but my mother pleaded with me, 'Ruth, please don't do that! Presidents call you by your first name, they invite you to White House dinners, please don't humiliate yourself. They'll think you're a kook!" The writings continued to pour through and after a year, I had quite an accumulation. Finally, I decided to go ahead with the book because I felt it was important for others to read this information. The guides kept saying, "Ruth, this material is not just for you, it's for everybody." Then, after the book came out, my aunt told me that her minister had preached a whole sermon on my book. It turned out that he had known Arthur Ford. They had both gone to the same seminary. So, from that time on, Mother was a little more relaxed about the work I was doing.
Nancy: It seems that Arthur Ford "paved the way" for you?
Ruth: Yes, I would give Arthur Ford the credit... or the curse (laughter).
Steve: Now that you've had some time to digest what has happened in the last 20 to 30 years, how do you see things? How have The Guides developed? Have things progressed in a good way or do we still have a long way to go?
Ruth: Well, if we are talking about world news, I think we have regressed, but if we are talking about the minds of people opening up, then I think it is marvelous what is happening. There is so much more enlightenment now! When I first started going to seances, I would mostly see little old ladies who were desperately seeking to talk to their deceased husbands. Nowadays, it is all these sparkling, bright-eyed young people, as well as the middle-aged and the elderly too, who are just thrilled with the whole thing. They want spiritual development, not just contact with those who are 'beyond the grave.'
Steve: Are you still in contact with Arthur Ford?
Ruth: Yes, he joined the group right after his death and that led to my book, "A World Beyond." That opened so many fields because it was after that book came out that so many of the doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists began writing books about the near-death experiences of their patients.
Steve: Have you had any recent contact with Arthur Ford, and is he still communicating with you?
Ruth: Ever since he joined the group, the writing would begin, "Ruth, this is Lily, Art and The Group." He is always there any time I go to my typewriter. But I do want to warn people if they are going to try (automatic handwriting), only to do it at the same time each day.
Steve: Why is that?
Ruth: Because that's when you've made a date with your contact on the other side, with "the guardian of the gate." They are there to protect you so evil or mischievous spirits won't come through. Same as with the Ouija Board or table tapping, you want to have a protector who guards that entrance way.
Steve: Do you still do automatic writing or do you voice channel now?
Ruth: Oh, no. My agreement with the guides, after they began wanting me to write this book was, "All right, but I don't want to see you and I don't want to hear you. This is my life now, but I will take your writing if you will leave me alone the rest of the time."
Steve: Do you do the writing just during that same period of time every morning?
Ruth: Yes, except that I switched the time since I first began. You can establish your own time to whenever it's convenient. I write until it is finished - sometimes two minutes, sometimes longer, but I always start at the same time.
Steve: Do you consider this automatic writing a spiritual practice?
Ruth: I don't call it a practice, it's just my communication with those who have gone on. My husband died two and a half years ago and he comes in through 'Lily and the Group' now whenever I want him to.
Nancy: Do you write in long-hand or do you type their messages?
Ruth: It started with a pencil, as most peoples' do. Then, one morning I had overslept the start time and very sleepily, was picking up a pencil by my bedside. I was totally unaware of it. Suddenly, it was as if a big, heavy fist grabbed my hand and it began writing something. I opened my eyes and looked down to read, "Go to your typewriter... we have developed enough strength to type through you. You can't read this scrawl anymore." So I went to my typewriter and that's the way the messages have come ever since.
Steve: Do you have any specific spiritual practices such as meditation?
Ruth: You should always meditate before you pick up the pencil or go to the typewriter. Mine comes so quickly now that it is a very brief meditation.
Steve: How do you differentiate between your thoughts and those coming through you from The Guides or from others? Is it difficult to tell? Do you have any suggestions for people that might want to start to doing this?
Ruth: If I have a question for them, I type it out first and then I meditate. It reminds me of one time, two or three years ago, I asked, "How do I know that this is not my subconscious and my own thoughts?" The writing started and said, "Are they your thoughts?" I had to admit that I (normally do not have) such beautiful, spiritual, philosophical thoughts. Also, by checking the material and the answers they would give me, there was no way in the world that I could have known those answers, and yet they all were true.
Nancy: So then, over time, you developed a trust in what they were saying and that it was truth?
Ruth: I had to.
Steve: Do you have any fear of making a transition to the other side?
Ruth: No, and frankly it's getting so that I can hardly wait (laughing)! I've heard so much about how wonderful it is on the other side, and I see what's going on in this country and around the world and I think, 'Lord, how much longer do I have to wait here?'
Nancy: Do you believe that our lives our guided from another level, that we are here to serve a specific purpose?
Ruth: Absolutely! I think that we all volunteered to come to do certain things, and if we open ourselves to guidance and listen to it, absolutely we are being guided, but they are not interfering with our own free will. It's up to us. They don't interfere unless we ask.
Steve: Let's talk about some of the predictions given by the Guides concerning the Earth changes that are supposed to be taking place now and near the end of the century. In your books, they said there will be a major shifting of poles?
Ruth: A shift of the Earth on its axis is the way they say that. They say it will slope to its side, but they don't say how far. That is why it is so important to say, 'a shift of the Earth on its axis.' I used to say 'a shift of the poles' until certain scientists pointed out to me that that was pretty impossible. So it is a shift of the Earth on its axis. The axis itself doesn't shift.
Nancy: What kind of changes have The Guides predicted?
Ruth: It will be a real upheaval, and temperatures will change. Some areas will be in a warmer climate, and some will be in a colder climate. They say that the new south pole will be in the southern part of South America, the North pole will be somewhere in the Pacific. They can't locate it because there will be such a shift in the way the Earth looks from outer space. I can tell you that not too long ago in one of my books, The Guides said that a Walk-In President would come in to alert people as to where they should go and will give enough warning so that some businesses could become established in these safer areas. They've predicted that for some time. As I said before, I type out my questions first and I typed, "I have looked over all of these candidates who are declared for Presidency and I can't see a single one of them who seems to me like a Walk-In. Could it be that the shift will occur after another election, rather than at the turn of the century?" After I meditated and the writing began, they answered, "Yes, it could be. We have always told you that we could not give you the exact date for the shift, we don't know it ourselves. We have, however, for a long time seen an American President who is a Walk-In and who is telling people where to go and what to do." So, the shift could very well be delayed until sometime after the next election.
Steve: Apparently they do not see any Walk-In candidates right now?
Ruth: Right.
Nancy: Is there anything to fear? In your personal opinion, do you think the angels or the guides will step in and prevent any big disaster from happening?
Ruth: Well, The Guides have said repeatedly that man cannot change God's Will, that this is a Universal Law, and man has no control over it. That is the shift that they are talking about.
Nancy: Are you saying that it is God's Will that the Earth shifts?
Ruth: It is part of the universal plan, yes. They say that Earth is overdue for a cleansing. It's happened a number of times before, yes, and the Earth needs that cleansing again. They say, that in a lot of areas, the waters will be where land is, and vice versa. Lands will rise from the sea.
Steve: Ruth, are you a Walk-In? Do you have suggestions for people as to how they can find out if they're a Walk-In or not?
Ruth: I am not a Walk-In. The Guides said that I am not and I trust them on that. In my two books, "Strangers Among Us," and "Threshold to Tomorrow," they describe at length how you can pick out Walk-Ins. I've gotten to where I can pretty well do that now.
Steve: You've written about so many different New Age topics but it seems like you have a stronger affinity for the Walk-Ins. Why is that?
Ruth: Well, I had never even heard of them, but I get a lot of fan mail all of the time, (I think because my books are still kept alive in paperback so there is a new generation reading them). Then, it was a few years ago I received a beautiful letter from a woman who was saying how much my books had meant to her and she was thanking me for them, but wished I would write about "Walk-Ins." When I replied, I asked her to tell me about walk-ins because I had never heard of them before. Well, she wrote back and told me to ask my guides! It had not occurred to me, so I took her suggestion and I asked them and all this material began pouring out. I learned that Walk-ins were souls on the other side who had earned the right (in previous lifetimes), that if they wanted to, they could come in and replace a soul that is in desperate need of leaving that body... one who either does not want to maintain it, or who is dying and can't keep it alive.
Steve: In the last few years there's been a lot of discussion of the UFO phenomena and being visited by aliens from other dimensions and from other planets. Some humans feel that they're being abducted. In your opinion, do you know if Washington is, indeed, keeping us in the dark about all this?
Ruth: Oh, I think definitely so. I wrote a book called, "Aliens Among Us," that tells all I know about them. There is no question in my mind that Washington - that is, certain segments of our government - knows a great deal more about them and is not releasing it.
Steve: Are there any presidents that you know for a fact are aware of alien presence on planet Earth?
Ruth: Well, certainly Jimmy Carter did, so I imagine all of them since then did. During his campaign for the Presidency, Jimmy said he had seen a UFO with a group of people and that he had watched it. He said that if he was elected President, he was going to make the government tell every bit that they knew about walk-ins. After he became President, however, he said nothing, which means that he had been briefed and shut-up.
Nancy: In your opinion, what is a Walk-In and also what becomes of a walk-out?
Ruth: Well, the Walk-In, as I said, is a person who has earned the right in previous lifetimes, that is if he wants to, can replace a soul who desperately wants to leave. They're not perfect souls who "Walk-In," but they're advanced souls. They are "aware souls." No blame is attached to the walk-out, for it has done whatever it can to develop itself but cannot shift the problems that are mounting within it. I understand the walk-out goes into spirit the same as you and I will when we die.
Nancy: You said that they've earned a right to come back into the body without going through the birthing process. Can we take that to mean they are "saving time," and are allowed to come back and be of service quicker, and that they're here for a purpose?
Ruth: Yes, they say that they did not want to waste the time of going through the toddler stage, then school days and all the preparation because they are obsessed with a mission. They feel that there is something they can do and they can only come in if they want to help mankind. They cannot come in to help themselves or to make a lot of money... that sort of thing.
Nancy: Do you know any "famous people" who are walk-ins?
Ruth: In my books, The Guides told of a number of ones who were, let's see...
Nancy: Abraham Lincoln?
Ruth: Yes, and George Washington I believe was one. It's been so long since I've read my own books! (Laughter).
Nancy: Is there anybody in current affairs that you feel is a Walk-In?
Ruth: Well, there is Chuck Colson. Do you remember him from the Watergate scandal?
Steve: Not Gordon Liddy though.
Ruth: No, I'm afraid not, but you see, they don't like to expose. They protect people's privacy too. Chuck Colson has lived up to his mission with the prison fellowship and doing so much good with prisoners, but they don't just go around saying so and so is (a Walk-In). I can tell you who are not walk-ins, including our current President. People began writing me after he was elected asking if Bill Clinton was the Walk-In President The Guides have been talking about, so I asked them and they said, "No, he is not."
Nancy: How can a person find out if they are a Walk-In?
Ruth: Well, I think that they seem to recognize themselves from reading my books. Suddenly they are awakened to: "Thank God, now I know what happened to me!" Sometimes their parents, or a close friend will read my book and they'll suggest it to them saying something like, "Read this book, it's about you!" and they just instantly recognize themselves. I get these overwhelmingly grateful letters thanking me for saving their lives. Many people say to me, "I thought I had lost my mind. I thought I was ready for the booby hatch, and now I realize what happened to me." And do you know, with all the many hundreds of walk-ins that I've met since that book came out - including the ones I wrote about in Threshold to Tomorrow, I only know of one couple that has stayed together after one became a Walk-In. (Ed Hager and Carol Parrish??). They find themselves married to somebody they didn't know under their present soulship and they amicably divorce.
Steve: Do you believe in reincarnation?
Ruth: Indeed I do! After A Search for the Truth, The Guides said that we would be doing a book about reincarnation. I threw up my hands! I didn't even bother to write that down because I didn't believe in reincarnation. They told me to investigate it like I did the psychic phenomena, reminding me that I didn't believe in that either before I exploring it, so I began investigating reincarnation. I went down to the Edgar Cayce headquarters and spent a bit of time reviewing information and talking to a lot of people who remembered previous lifetimes. Then, The Guides began telling me about my own previous lives. Now I am utterly and totally convinced of reincarnation. Too many things checked out for me not to believe it.
Nancy: How would you go about investigating a past life?
Ruth: I did a book called, Companions Along the Way, that told about my own past lives with Arthur Ford. The Guides told me things that checked out with people that I had known at that time.
Steve: What do you feel has been your greatest discovery in all of the research you've done regarding "the New Age?"
Ruth: It's not my discovery, it's The Guides. I don't take any credit for any of this, or for the beautiful philosophy. I'm just an ordinary college graduate.
Nancy: Is there any one thing that came through that you were really impressed with?
Ruth: Well, every book that I have done so far has been on a new and electrifying topic to me! I would have to say that every one of them is just as exciting to me, if not more so, than it is to my readers. {The Guides} just keep awakening me and prompting me.
Nancy: They don't surprise you anymore?
Ruth: They always surprise me! (Laughter). They always surprise me!
Steve: They surprise the rest of us as well, so it is sort of a process that we're all going through?
Ruth: That's why, from the very beginning, they said, "Young lady, (I was a young lady then - laughter), this is not meant just for you, this is meant for everybody. Now do this book!"
Steve: Do you feel there is another book coming?
Ruth: I think there may be one more, but I won't do anything about it until at least after the Spring primaries next year.
Nancy: Are you saying that after the President takes office, there could be a Walk-In experience, or is the person already a Walk-In before he is elected?
Ruth: No, (The Guides) have said that he recently came in. This is what makes me so particular in viewing the possible candidates now.
Nancy: I have a theory about walk-ins. I believe it depends on how old you are that determines whether you're a "Walk-In" or a "crawl-in." At some point the spirit enters the body. It could crawl in the womb as an infant, or walk in as an adult. Do you agree with that? Ruth: No, because babies choose to come back. That's in one of the earlier books. I understand that we select the bodies that we'd like to have, and if we've earned the right we can have that situation. Often times we choose a very disagreeable situation and come in as a cripple, sometimes as a blind baby. We're at a much higher level of awareness on the spiritual plane where we realize what we need to experience to help our souls, to round out our awareness of existence. We choose that body, so there isn't any Walk-In that suddenly. The Guides say, and also, Edgar Cayce said that the soul enters at or around the time of birth, not at conception. So there can't be a Walk-In then.
Steve: Wouldn't that explain the abortion crisis?
Nancy: ...that everything has a divine plan...
Steve: ... that the soul doesn't really come until the birth time...
Nancy: ...and that you're not killing anybody?
Ruth: Yes, Steve's question set off this train of thought. Bob and I tried to have babies and went to doctors to see why we didn't. It was just not apparently meant to be in this lifetime. But I am for a woman's choice, because I feel that, although you are stopping something that is growing, and that's too bad, birth control is a much more saintly way to deal with it than abortion. But I do think that a woman in the first trimester has a right to control her own body. She's letting a stranger in, after all, and if the stranger isn't welcome, then why go through with it?
Nancy: That's been confirmed in automatic-writings I have done. Steve and I asked questions about abortion years ago. The angels I channel gave us an analogy about renting a car by explaining that, for the incoming soul, it's like being at a Hertz-Rent-A-Car center to learn that they rented your car out to someone else. It simply means that the vehicle isn't available for the body to form. The angels explicitly said that you're not killing any one! Its just that the soul waits for the next vehicle.
Ruth: That's right. Why let it come into one where you don't want it, you're going to mistreat it, or you can't educate it?
Nancy: Remember, at that level, it's still a lesson that everyone involved in the situation is learning something valuable from.
Ruth: That's right.
Steve: What do you think of the "New Age" movement in general?
Ruth: Well, I think it's wonderful that people are grouping together who have similar interests and who are trying to open themselves to higher spiritual values. I think this is great, however, I think some of it is terribly overdone. I certainly believe in God and Jesus, but I just don't know why emotions have to become so high and people get so shrill. I'm not a particular admirer of Dick Nixon, but while he was President, he said, "Let us lower our voices." I think that could be said for a lot of these movements.
Steve: Ruth, you spent many years in Washington, and in the early 1960's when you started your automatic writing of this material, it must have been difficult for you. Here you are, in the midst of mainstream media, calling Presidents by their first names, and hob-nobblng with the social elite... I want to know, what was the reaction in your social circles when this psychic material first started becoming published? One book after the next... what kind of reaction did you get from your friends? Was there pressure for you to lay off, and how did you deal with that ?
Ruth: After that first eight-part series on psychic phenomena and my going to seances, it was published in the Washington papers, as well as all over the country. People would come up to me at cocktail parties and start telling me their experiences! Ambassadors of foreign countries would approach me with their psychic experiences. Then, people at the White House, not the President, would come up to me and tell me about their experiences. Senators could hardly wait! It was if a dam had broken down and water was gushing out!
Steve: Your books gave them permission to speak out?
Ruth: Yes. After I decided to write that first book, I called them back to remind them of our conversations. I wanted to make sure that my facts were absolutely straight and get their permission to use them in that book, which I did.
Steve: It seems as though your background of being a reporter gave you the credibility these people were looking for, and so they believed in what you were writing?
Ruth: Yes, and that is exactly what my fan mail began saying! The letters would read, "Ruth, we've been reading you for years. We know that you write fact, not fiction, and so for the first time, we believe all of this." The first psychic book, Here and Hereafter, was about reincarnation. From then on people would say, "You're the first one I've ever believed and now I believe it utterly." It was that integrity that they knew I had as a fact writer.
Nancy: Did you experience any doubt about the messages that were coming through? Did you have any fear in regards to publishing them?
Ruth: I had trepidation about publishing them because I was a woman in a man's world. There weren't very many women reporters in those days, and a few of the newspaper men would, sort of, 'give me the eye.' I'd say to them, "You can take it or leave it."
Nancy: How did you have a publisher interested in you pursuing psychic subjects? Did you have to really sell them on those ideas?
Ruth: Well, you see, I already had several books out before I went into this. I had done the book on Jeanne Dixon, which, at the time, was the biggest seller of the decade. They were dying for another book! Then I wrote A Search for the Truth, and that got on the best-sellers list. After that, publishers began calling me to ask if I would do a book for them. I remember one of the top publishing houses called and asked me to do a book for them. I told them I was writing a book on reincarnation and they didn't want that, so I went to another publisher who grabbed it.
Steve: Things just sort of flowed?
Ruth: Well, Steve, I was getting a lot of help from upstairs, you can be sure of that!
Nancy: That's an example of Divine Order.
Ruth: Yes, I think so. I was prepared for it from the very beginning. I think (The Guides) helped me get my first job as a newspaper reporter when I was 17 to prepare me for this whole thing. I think it was all directed from upstairs.
Nancy: Now that you've had so much experience channeling and working with the guides on the other side, do you have a personal philosophy on how people might live happier lives, with less pain and struggle?
Ruth: I absolutely believe, and I'm sure you do to because you've been into this enough, that everything is meant to be for love. If we help each other, and we learn to love each other at least as much as we love ourselves, its all going to flow. We're the ones who put up the barriers when we get nasty with people.
Nancy: Well, Ruth, on behalf of your readers, we thank you for your heralding and brave work. We thank you for having the courage to go forward with publishing your books. We thank you for bringing your light and credibility to this movement. We wish to have many more years of your courageous leadership and wisdom as a guiding example to people everywhere. You have made a dynamic difference in the world, to which we owe our deepest heartfelt gratitude. Thanks for carving the path that we walk easier upon today, and may God bless you.
Ruth: Nancy, that's beautiful. Thank you, honey!

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