They traveled all over the world and killed all the evil spirits they encountered. Then they went under the earth, under the rivers, under the ocean and then above the earth, visiting the Night spirits, the Sun, the Moon, the Stars, the Thunderbirds--all of them. Hey visited the four worlds, too. Indeed they did not miss anyplace. Herecgunina was sitting there writing in a book and marking off the number of years human beings were to live. He was making them very short. "Say, why don't you make them long?" aske the boys. "This is the way Earthmaker created me. He put me in control of life. It is to be short because if all people were to live long lives, the world would soon become overcrowded. Then the people would be in a pitiable condition indeed. There would not be enough food to go around. This is the reason the Earthmaker created me, that I might decrease the number of people." Then they asked him to let them have the book for a little while to do the marking. Finally they persuaded him to give it to them. When they had the book they marked all the lives long. "Don't do that," he said. But they refused to obey him. He tried to take the book back but they refused to give it up for, although Herecgunina was the equal of Earthmaker, these boys were powerful still. He was afraid of them.