RESURRECTION
OR
IMMORTALITY
LIFE IS ONLY
IN CHRIST
Chapter Three
The
Resurrection, Our Only Hope Of Life After Death
William
Robert West
Author
of ÒThe Rapture And IsraelÓ
Unconditional Immortality
Makes The Great Doctrines Of The New Testament Useless And\Or
Impossible
Is "The Wages Of Sin Death"
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"Eternal Life With Torment In HellÓ
An Immortal Soul And The Doctrine Of Hell
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CHAPTER
THREE
A Deathless,
Immaterial, Invisible Soul
That Has
No Substance
Versus The
Resurrection Of The Dead
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The main point of an
article, ÒReinterpretation Of The ScriptureÓ in Truth Magazine, August 7, 2003,
page 458 is about reinterpreting Genesis 3 to mean the Serpent was not real,
but was taken from well-known pagan myths. The article points out that when one
reinterpretation is accepted more will soon come, and gives some reinterpretations
the writer thinks may come. Without doubt many have made reinterpretations of
many scriptures, and many more will make more reinterpretations;
reinterpretation that the magazine said nothing about have been made and
accepted by many. Some reinterpretations that have been made in the past that
are historical facts, and are believed by many today, reinterpretations that
have caused many of the divisions we now have are Purgatory, Limbo, worship of
Mary and Saints, Nether World, holy water, the rosary, crossing your self, the
crucifix-worshiping the cross in-stead of Christ, crosses on building, forbidding
Priest to marry, Monks and Nuns, forbidding eating of meat on Friday,
candle-burning, an angel is a woman with wings, Satan has a red suit, horns,
and a tail. About all Protestants believe Purgatory
to be a change or reinterpretation, and there are hundreds more
reinterpretations that are historical facts, and are believed by many today,
but no one believes all of the hundreds of reinterpretations made in the past.
Most believe only a few of them, and all the many others they believe to be the
doctrine of man, not God. On what does anyone basic his or her belief that most
reinterpretations are not from God, but believe that a few are from God? Going
to God's word is the only way anyone can know whether any teaching is from man
or if it is from the Bible.
THE SUBJECTS OF THIS CHAPTER
(1). The reinterpretation of the death of Jesus.
(2). The reinterpretation of the second coming of Christ.
(3). The reinterpretation of the resurrection of the dead from a
grave changed into an instant translation of souls to Heaven or to Hell.
(4). ÒThe wages of sin is
deathÓ reinterpreted to be the wages of sin is an eternal life of torment
in Hell for a soul that is not subject to death.
(5). The reinterpretation of the Judgment Day that makes the
Judgment a mockery and not needed.
(6). The reinterpretation of death to be not death but endless
life, death is not death.
(7). The reinterpretation of sleep, are the dead asleep or awake, sleep
that is not sleep?
(8). The reinterpretation of the promise of life by Christ to them
that obey Him is made not needed by eliminating death.
(9). The reinterpretation of fire to be something that cannot burn
up anything.
(10).
The reinterpretation of the final destiny of a person changed from Heaven to
earth.
Unconditional
immortality makes many of the great doctrines of the New Testament useless and/or
impossible.
(1). THE REINTERPRETATION
OF THE DEATH OF JESUS
"Him who knew no
sin he made to be sin on our behalf; that we might become the righteousness of
God in him" (2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus actually died for our sins (Romans
5:8). "We were reconciled to God
through the death of his Son" (Romans 5:10). ÒThe wages of sin is deathÓ (Romans 6:23), and Christ died our
death that we may have life, not to keep a soul from an endless life of
torment, but to give us endless life. He paid the wages for our sin, and died
our death in our place, but He is not forever being tormented in our place.
Death is the penalty for sin, not endless life with torment for a person or a
soul (Hebrews 9:11-28; 1 Peter 2:24; 2 Corinthians 5:16-19; Matthew 27:20; John
10:15; 12:23-26; 1 Corinthians 15:3; Hebrews 2:14; 9:16-17; 10:14; Isaiah
43:12). If, as many teach that Òthe wages of sinÓ is endless life in
torment, Christ is not now suffer endless torment for us; therefore, He is not
now paying Òthe wages of sinÓ for us.
Life, saved from death, is His gift to us, not just a reward for an immaterial,
invisible "soul" that now already has endless life and cannot ever not have endless life. Those that are not saved
by the blood of Christ, not saved by the death of Christ will die, for the
wages of their sin is death, "For if
WE have become united with him in
the likeness of his death, WE shall
be also in the likeness of his resurrection" (Romans 6:5). If those
not united in the likeness of the death of Christ will not be in the likeness
of His resurrection, then what likeness could they have in Hell if there was a
Hell? The wages of their sin is death,
not being alive and having the likeness of Christ, likeness of Adam, or any
other likeness with God tormenting them. Those who believe there is an
immortal soul in a person believe the only thing that will be in Heaven or Hell
is an undying soul that can never die; therefore, Christ could not have died in
a souls place to save a deathless soul from Òthe wages of sinÓ for that immortal soul would not be subject to
death and would have no need for Christ to have died in its place, no need for
Him to have died a death that we are told that a soul could not die.
If
Christ were as much alive in the three days His earthly body was in a grave as
He was after the resurrection, then there was no difference in Christ (1) than
when before He came to earth (2) than when His earthly body was in a grave (3)
and now when He is in Heaven, If His death was not a death, if only His earthly
body was dead, then He was the same spiritual being with all the life, power,
and glory in the three days a body was in a grave that He had before He came to
earth, or that He now has in Heaven. Jesus could have given nothing but a earthly body for our sins. According to those who believe
there is a soul, which is the only thing that cannot die, a soul of Christ
could not and did not die; therefore,
according to their teaching Jesus did not die for our sins for He was never
dead.
The
death of Jesus was not just a door by which He went instantly back to Heaven
before His resurrection. He was not "received
up from you into heaven" (Acts 1:11) unto 50 days after His death, not
at the time of His death, not before His resurrection.
Christ Òpoured
out his being unto deathÓ
Isaiah 53:12
ÒHe poured out Himself to deathÓ New
American Standard Bible. Christ poured out His being, poured out His life unto
dead, not just a human body. Unto His resurrection He was dead, not alive in
Hell or alive any other place; if He had not been dead He could not have been
resurrected from the dead. Christ was as dead as mankind will be after death.
He was not somewhere very much alive with the power and glory He had before He
came to earth, and His resurrection was not just His coming back from someplace
where He was alive, it was not just the living Christ coming back to the human
body that He had have while He was on earth; that would not have been a death or a resurrection of Christ. ÒThe Wages of sin is deathÓ (Romans
6:23), and Christ died in our place for our sins with all God's wrath that we
would have had upon us at the judgment. Jesus paid our debt in full. He "lay down his life" for us
(John 15:13), but He is not now suffering endless torment for us; therefore, if
Òthe wages of sinÓ were an endless life in torment Christ is not now
paying our debt?
The death Christ died and His
resurrection are opposites. If His death
was not a real death, His resurrection could not be a real resurrection.
Then what would God has given when He gave His only Son, nothing more than one
human body for three days. There would have been no real sacrifice by God or
Christ, no real resurrection as
Jesus would have been alive while a body was in a grave. We are repeatedly told
that God raised Christ from the dead (Acts 2:24; 2:32; 3:15;
3:26; 4:10; 5:30; 10:40; 12:7; 13:22; 13:23; 13:30; 13:33; 13:34; 13:37; 23:50;
17:31; Romans 4:24; 4:25; 8:11; 9:17; 10:9; 1 Corinthians 6:14; 15:15; 2
Corinthians 4:14; Galatians 1:1; Ephesians 1:20; Colossians 2:12; 1
Thessalonians 1:10; 1 Peter 1:21).
"Now the God of peace, who brought again from the dead the great shepherd
of the sheep with the blood of an eternal covenant, even our Lord Jesus" (Hebrews
13:20). Suffering is never said to be Òthe
wages of sin,Ó but many change Òthe wages of sinÓ (death) to an endless
life of suffering in Hell for a soul. Not to take anything away from the
suffering of Christ, but if He had suffered all He did right up to His death,
and then not have died for our sin, we would still have to pay the penalty of
our sin, which is death; there is nothing said about Christ being tormented in
the time from His death unto His resurrection, Christ was dead unto God raised
Him up.
(a). "He laid down
his life for us" (1 John 3:16).
(b).
"Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen from the dead" (Matthew
17:9).
(c).
"And go quickly, and tell his disciples, he is risen from the dead" (Matthew 28:7).
(d).
"Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer, and rise again from the dead the third
day" (Luke 24:46).
(e).
"This is now the third time that Jesus was manifested to the
disciples, after that he was risen from
the dead" (John 21:14).
(f).
"And killed the Prince of
life; whom God raised from the dead"
(Acts 3:15).
(A).
CHRIST IS OUR PASSOVER (Exodus 20). The lamb died in the place of the
first-born. It was slain, not forever tormented. Its blood was placed on the
doorpost, and the death angel passed over. If there were no blood, there was
death for the first born, not an endless life of torment. "For our Passover also has been sacrificed, even Christ"
(1 Corinthians 5:7). "That by the
grace of God he should taste of death for every man" (Hebrews 2:9).
Christ died in the place of the sinner. It is by His blood that we are saved
from death just as the blood of the lamb saved the first-born from death; the
saved will be passed over by Òthe second
death.Ó He tasted of death for all, but He is not forever being tormented
for all.
(B). NO ATONEMENT. If God's penalty for
sin is not death, it would not have been necessary for Christ to die to redeem
us from the curse of the law; for if the law did not inflict
death on the sinner, and yet required the death of Christ for the redemption of
the sinner, it inflicted on Christ as payment for our sins something it would
not have inflicted on us as payment for our sin.
In Old Testament types, it
was the life given up in the blood
poured out on the altar that atoned for sin; it was life given up by Christ that atones. Sin must be atoned for; Òthe wages of sin is death.Ó If Christ
did not die, no atonement was made. If Òthe
wages of sinÓ is an everlasting life of torment, then Christ is not now paying
it for us, and no atonement is being made. When "soul"
(nehphesh–life) is reinterpreted to be an immaterial, invisible, undying soul that is in a person, then
when Christ "poured out his soul
(nehphesh–life) unto death"
(Isaiah 53:10-12), was there an undying something in Him that could not die,
but it died? If Christ was not dead, then He did not pour out his life
(nehphesh) unto death, there was no atonement.
(a). ÒWages
of sin is deathÓ (Romans 6:23).
(b). Christ died in our place, died our
death.
(c). Therefore, believers are saved from
death by the death of Christ, not saved from an endless life of torment. Death
is death; ÒdeathÓ is not life.
CURTIS DICKINSON, ÒIf the punishment for our sins is not ACTUAL DEATH,
then Christ could not have made atonement for us BY HIS DEATH. Under the Mosaic
Law there was no such punishment as imprisonment for life, much less
imprisonment for life under continuous torture. The penalty for the greatest
offenses was always and only death." ÒWhat The Bible Teaches About
Immortality And Future Punishment,Ó page 16, 1984, Church of Christ.
AL
MAXEY, ÒJesus did NOT suffer (and is not currently
suffering) perpetual torture. He did NOT pay that price. Jesus has
demonstrated, however, that the penalty for sin is exactly what the Bible
declares it to be: DEATH. He DID pay THAT price!! And He would have remained dead had not a very special
promise been made to Him: He would not be abandoned to the grave; He would be
delivered. That promise has NOT been made to the wicked. Thus, when THEY
experience the Ôwages of sinÕ (death) there will be no future rescue. Just as in
the death of Christ we have a demonstration of the fate of the unredeemed, so
also in His resurrection to life do
we have a demonstration of the fate of the redeemed. ÔIf Christ has not been
raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Then those also
who have fallen asleep in Christ have perishedÕ (1 Cor. 15:17-18) ÉIf the wages
of sin is perpetual torture in fire, then the wicked will be forced to suffer
an infinitely greater penalty than
Jesus paid for the sins of mankind Indeed, the suffering and death of Christ
would be trivial in comparisonÉ That is a real problem for the traditionalist
who proclaims perpetual torture as the penalty for sin–the penalty we
have been told Christ Jesus PAID IN FULL.Ó Maxey–Thrasher
Debate, Al Maxey # 5, March 28, 2002, Church of Christ.
BASIL F. C. ATKINSON,
Cambridge University, ÒIt is sometimes forgotten that we have in history at the
center of our faith an open example and illustration of the punishment of
sinÉthe facts of the suffering and death of Christ Jesus prove conclusively
that the punishment of sin is death in its natural sense.Ó ÒLife and
Immortality: An Examination of the Nature and meaning of Life and Death as They
Are Revealed in the Scripture,Ó page 103.
(C). NO NEW COVENANT. "For where a testament is, there must
of necessity be the death of him that made it. For a testament is in force
where there has been death: for it never avail while he that made it
lives" (Hebrews 9:16-17). If Christ only changed from being alive on
earth to being alive any other place, whether it was Heaven, Hell or wherever,
He would not have died, there would have been no death, and the New Covenant is
not in force.
(D). MAKES CHRIST'S DEATH BE INADEQUATE.
When Christ paid Òthe wages of sinÓ for us, it was with His death. He is not now suffering
endless torment for us; therefore, if Òthe
wages of sinÓ is endless torment and not death, then the death of Christ
was inadequate to pay for our sins. ÒThe
wages of sin is deathÓ and death is definitely the forfeiture of life, if
endless torment is Òthe wages of sin,Ó
Christ is not now paying it, and there is no salvation for anyone.
Many
who say they "speak where the Bible speaks, and are silent where the Bible
is silent," say "We cannot fully grasp the righteousness and holiness
of God, nor the sinfulness of sin in His perfectly created universe." They
believe that the sinfulness of sin makes endless torment in Hell necessary, and
they say that endless death would not be enough for God to be a just God. If
they, "Speak where the Bible speaks," then how do they know that sin
is not evil enough to require the supreme penalty of the death of the sinner;
therefore, they say the sinner must be let off with a lesser penalty of a life
of torment. The Bible clearly says death is required. "The wages of sin is death," not just a life of torment.
They are clearly speaking where the Bible does not speak. It is often said that
the sinfulness of sin makes Hell necessary, but not once does the Bible say
this, it says, "The wages of sin is
death," (Romans 6:23).
(2).
THE REINTERPRETATION
OF THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
If all the
souls that some believe were in the saved are now in Heaven with Christ, and
all the souls that they believe were in the lost are now in Hell, why is Christ
coming back to this earth? Death the "last
enemy" has been made to do what Christ would have done at His second
coming, namely both judged and taken all the saved to Heaven. There would be no
need for Him to come back to do what death has already done; if the saved go to
Heaven at death, they would not be on earth and they would not be dead. The
doctrine of an immortal undying soul has supplanted the second coming of Christ
by making death, the enemy of mankind be his best friend that takes souls
instantly to Heaven. This view has
Christ coming back to earth for souls that are not on earth, but are already
with Christ in Heaven, and raising the dead that are not dead.
The
Abraham's bosom view says Christ is coming back to the earth for the
resurrection, but the ones He is coming back to earth to raise from the dead
are those who are not dead; they are already alive somewhere other than on
earth where Christ will be coming to, already alive in AbrahamÕs bosom, not
alive on earth, not alive in Heaven, or in Hell. This view makes souls be alive
wherever they think Abraham's bosom to be. No one will be dead; therefore,
there cannot be a resurrection of the undead that are alive either in Heaven,
or alive wherever AbrahamÕs bosom is believed to be.
(3). THE REINTERPRETATION
OF THE RESURRECTION
OF THE DEAD FROM GRAVE CHANGED
TO AN INSTANT TRANSLATION TO HEAVEN
Unconditional
immortality says a person has an immaterial ÒsoulÓ in them that is now
immortal, that it is now alive, and it is not subject to death, and that this ÒsoulÓ
that is in them goes to Heaven or Hell at the personÕs death. If this were
true, it would make the resurrection be impossible, of no consequence, and not
needed. Most unconditional immoralists say whatever the immaterial something
is, it is not now dead, it is not now in a grave, and it will not be dead, not in
a grave at the coming of Christ. If it were true that only a soul that can
never die is all that will ever be in Heaven, and that soul is already alive in
Heaven, then there could not be a resurrection of the dead, for this undead
soul that had been in a person would not be dead.
The resurrection is at the coming of
Christ; if souls that had been in those who have died in Christ are now alive
in Heaven, some for two thousand years or more, what would be the point of the
second coming of Christ to receive these souls unto Himself (John 14:3). Would
it not be ridiculous for Christ to come to earth for His people when they had
been with Him in Heaven, some for thousands of years? There would be nothing on
earth to rise but the earthly body that will never be in Heaven. "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the
kingdom of God" (1 Corinthians 15:50).
It
is the person that dies, and it will be the person that will be resurrection
from the dead with a wonderfully changed body (1 Corinthians 15:51-55);
anything that happens to a soul that is not dead could not be a resurrection of
the dead, it could not be a resurrection of anything; this pagan teaching
completely changes and destroys the teaching of the Bible of the resurrection. According
to the Bible it is the person that will be raised but will be changed from a
mortal to an immortal body, but it will be the same person, not a resurrection
of a dead soul that is not dead and cannot be resurrected.
JUDGED TWICE
The
doctrine of a soul going to Heaven or Hell immediately at the death of the
person and again the judgment at the coming of Christ. What about
the immaterial souls that would now be in Hell? Are they to be taken out of
Hell and judged a second time for the same sins that they were judged of at the
death of the person and then be sent back to the same Hell;
what could possibly be the purpose of their resurrection and judgment if at
death they had already been judged worthy of Hell?
(a).
The
lost souls must be judged at death and found worthily of endless torment in
Hell, then be called out of Hell at the coming of Christ for a second judgment
for the same sins that they had already been judged and found guilty, and
condemned again to the same endless torment by God.
(b). Souls that were judged at death and
found worthily of endless life in Heaven would have to be called out of Heaven,
be judged, and found not guilty a second time, and then enter Heaven a second
time.
THE IMMORTAL SOUL DOCTRINE
MAKES THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD
AN UNSOLVABLE PROBLEM
For those
who believe that there is an undying soul that is translated to Heaven, to Hell,
or to AbrahamÕs bosom at the moment of death before the resurrection at the
second coming of Christ, the resurrection is a problem for which they seem to
have no solution. A resurrection of souls that are already alive in Heaven, already
alive in Hell, or already alive in AbrahamÕs bosom is no resurrection at all;
it would be an empty show. It is an
inescapable fact that according to the popular teaching, that there is no place
for a resurrection in the popular views of today, and
no logical reason for it. The Bible teaching of the resurrection of the
dead at the coming of Christ cannot be reconciled with the heathen doctrine of
an immortal soul; it is dead persons that will be resurrected, not living
deathless souls. How could life be restored to souls that are already alive?
How could souls that are not dead and not in graves be resurrected out of
graves?
FRED P. THOMPSON, JR, ÒNevertheless, there is a sturdy realism about the
way the Bible handles death. No effort is made to avoid its impact. No plastic
disguises are attempted to make the dead seem still alive. No circumlocutions
or euphemisms are employed in an effort to make death seem something more
pleasant than it is. In biblical stories men and women die and are buried and
appropriately mourned. They neither Ôpass awayÕ nor Ôexpire.Õ They die. For
death is more than ceasing to breathe and more than a stage on the great
journey of life. It is an end, a period placed after the last chapter of the
book on mortal existence. Scripture never skirts that fact.Ó ÒWhat The Bible
Says About Heaven And Hell,Ó page 54, College Press, 1983.
ANTHONY F. BUZZARD M. A., ÒThe Hellenic
idea that the soul departs from the body at death is a flat contradiction of
the Old and New Testament scheme, and its introduction into Christian thinking
has led to the utmost confusion. For what sense can be made of a scheme, which
places each dying Christian immediately in heaven at death (although David Ôhas not ascended into heavenÕ), only to
have him raised from the grave with all his fellows at a future time? An
attempt to reconcile the Hebraic and Hellenic systems has led to the idea of
the resurrection of the body only,
implying that the soul is already Ôalive.Õ But such language is quite
unbiblical. The Scripture nowhere speaks of the resurrection of the body or the flesh. It speaks of the
resurrection of the dead. It is
specifically said, as has been shown, that David himself, the whole person, is
not in heaven, and that the dead, not their bodies only, are sleeping in the
grave pending the resurrectionÉIt is the resurrection of dead people that the New Testament preaches,
not the resurrection of dead bodies!Ó
ÒWhat Happens When We Die? A Biblical View of Death and Resurrection,Ó page 11,
2002, www.restorationfellowship.org
THE RESURRECTION OF THE ÒDEADÓ
IS A FUTURE EVENT John
5:28-29; Acts 24:15
The
Greek concept of the immortal soul assumes that this soul already posse's
endless life and the only question is where are they now alive at and where will
their endless life be spent? It cannot be said that something that is now
living can be raised from the dead. It is utterly impossible to harmonize the
New Testament teaching of a resurrection with the pagan teaching of an immortal
soul. There is no stronger way Paul
could have said that there is no hope of life after death if there is no
resurrection, that those who are fallen asleep in Christ have perished, that
they are not now alive in Heaven without the resurrection and judgment. If they
were in Heaven they could not have ÒperishedÓ
in any way. Whatever you think will be in Heaven, you or whatever a soul is,
it is clear from 1 Corinthians 15:12-19 that neither one could ever be in
Heaven if there is no resurrection, both (1) the person (2) or a soul if there
were a soul, both will cease to exist at death if there is no resurrection;
neither a person or a soul could never be in Heaven without the resurrection.
The dead have not yet been raised or judged
————NOT————
1. The dead
are now alive in Heaven
2. Not the dead are alive without being raised
or judged
If
before the resurrection and judgment they that are fallen asleep in Christ were
alive in Heaven or Hell they have not perished even if there is no
resurrection, for they would now be alive before and without the resurrection,
and would have no need of the resurrection.
THE TWO ARE INCOMPATIBLE
1. An immortal deathless soul makes the
resurrection from the dead impossible. IF THERE IS A DEATHLESS SOUL THERE
CANNOT BE A RESURRECTION OF THE DEATHLESS.
2. The resurrection from the dead makes an
immortal deathless soul impossible.
Both cannot be true. Death is the end of life. The resurrection is a return to life. If death is not death, if death is life in another place,
the resurrection is not a resurrection, it would be nothing more than a moving
day, from being alive at one place to being alive at another place, just a
continuation of life in another place, not a real resurrection from the dead.
THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD
IS THE ONLY HOPE OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
The Bible could not
say any stronger than it does that an awakening from the dead by the
resurrection is our only hope of any life after death. Without the
resurrection to life from death, there would be no existence after death. Those in Christ being raised from being asleep in a grave to
immortality at the second coming of Christ is the teaching of the New
Testament (1 Corinthians 15; Matthew 22:31; Luke 14:14; John 11:25; Acts 17:31;
Philippians 3:8-11; John 6:3-9). Without
the resurrection, "Your faith is
worthless; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep
in Christ have perished" (1 Corinthians 15:17-18). "If from human motives I fought with
wild beasts at Ephesus, what does it profit me? If the dead are not raised, let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die"
(1 Corinthians 15:32); it dose not say that tomorrow immortal souls will lives
forever some place without the resurrection; if there is no resurrection there
is no future existence of any kind, death ends all life, eat, drink, do whatever
you want to for death ends everything for you. Both reincarnation and the
immoral soul from birth are a poor substitution for the truth. As clearly as
life and death, the return of Jesus, the resurrection of all from graves, the
Judgment Day, and the second death are taught in the New Testament, how could
anyone read the New Testament and believe that Plato's immortal soul is alive
before and without the resurrection, or believe in reincarnation?
AFTER THE RESURRECTION
OF THE DEAD IS THE ONLY TIME ANY OF THE DEAD WILL BE ALIVE AND WITH THE LORD. "For the Lord Himself will descend from
heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of
God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the
air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord" (1
Thessalonians 4:16-17).
ÒI have kept the
faith; henceforth there is laid up for me
(not laid up for a soul) the
crown of righteousness, which the righteous judge, shall give to me at the day; and not to me only, but also to all them that have loved his appearing,Ó Laid up for ÒmeÓ Paul, and for all persons that are
in Christ, not laid up for souls that had been in all believers (2 Timothy
4:7-8). The pagan theology of souls being immortal is where the Dark Age Roman Catholic
teaching of souls that had been in believers going to Heaven at the death of
the believers came from, and it makes the resurrection be both completely
useless and imposable.
THE RESURRECTION OF
THE DEAD IS WHEN THE JUST SHALL BE RECOMPENSED, NOT RECOMPENSED AT DEATH FOR
SOULS THAT ARE NOT DEAD. "For you shall be recompensed in the
resurrection of the just" (Luke 14:14). No one is recompensed
by a soul, not the person going instantly to Heaven at death before the
resurrection and judgment. "In my
Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place
for you, I will come again, and will
receive you unto myself that where I
am, there you may be also"
(John 14:3). No one, or no deathless immaterial being that will at the death of
the person go to the Father's house in Heaven before they are resurrected at
the coming of Christ. ÒUnto an
inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fades not away, reserved in Heaven for YOU, who by the
power of God are guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last timeÓ (1 Peter
1:4-5). The ÒyouÓ is the person, not something that is alive in a person
that will leave that person at death. It is ÒyouÓ not ÒitÓ that Christ
is preparing a place for.
1 CORINTHIANS 15
This entire chapter is devoted to the subject of the resurrection of the
dead. In 1 Corinthians 15 it is clear that Paul believed in the resurrection of
dead persons as being our only hope of life after death, not in an instant
translation of a soul to Heaven at the moment of the death of the person.
1. THE
DEAD ARE ASLEEP. Christ was Òthe
first fruits of those who are asleepÓ
(1 Corinthians 15:20). ÒAre asleepÓ is
present tense, the Corinthian Christians who had died were asleep at the time
Paul was writing this, not awake in Heaven. The dead in Christ are spoken of as
being asleep through out this chapter.
(a). ÒSome
have fallen asleep,Ó some had died, (1 Corinthians 15:6).
(b). Paul said if there is no resurrection, ÒThose who have fallen asleep in Christ have
perishedÓ (1 Corinthians 15:18), not that they are already alive in Heaven
looking down on us without the resurrection.
(c). Not all Christian will fall asleep
before the coming of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:51).
2. THE FIRST FRUITS. In the Old Testament
the first of the harvest was to be offered unto God, and then the harvest would
come after the first fruits. ÒBut now
Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleepÓ
(1 Corinthians 15:20). The harvest of
those who are asleep in Christ will come at the coming of Christ, ÒBut each in his own order: Christ the first
fruits, after that those who are
ChristÕs AT HIS COMINGÓ (1
Corinthians 15:23). The resurrection of the dead will be when Christ comes, if
those who have died are alive they could not be resurrected from the dead as
Christ was resurrected from the dead, no one would be dead. By teaching an
instant translation into Heaven at death is to deny the resurrection at the
coming of Christ. A more direct or
positive statement about how long the dead will be dead, and when the dead will
no longer be dead (Òat His comingÓ) could
not be made. Yet many say no Paul you are wrong, the dead are never dead.
3. ÒUTTERLY LOST.Ó If Christ was not raised, if there
is no resurrection. ÒFor if the dead are
not raise, it follows that Christ was not raised; and if Christ was not raised,
your faith dose nothing and you are still in your old state of sin. It follows
also that those who have died within ChristÕs fellowship are utterly lostÓ
(1 Corinthians 15:16-18, New English Bible). Unconditional immortality says the
real you never dies; therefore, cannot be resurrected, the real Christ could
not die; therefore, He was not resurrected. If there are souls that were in
dead saints that goes to Heaven at the death of the saints it makes this
statement by Paul be totally wrong for there would be no way that souls that
were already alive in Heaven could be Òutterly
lost,Ó even if there were no resurrection. If Paul was wrong then he was not inspired by God. If this passage were not
inspired there would be no way we could know that anything Paul said was
inspired.
4. ÒIN CHRIST ALL SHALL BE MADE ALIVEÓ
(1 Corinthians 15:22). If those in Christ were alive in
Heaven they could not be made alive, they would already be alive. Nothing is said about an immaterial soul in
this chapter on the resurrection, it is ÒusÓ (ÒyouÓ persons) that
are saved, not an ÒitÓ that nobody
knows what ÒitÓ really is; those in
Christ, not ÒitÓ will be resurrected
with a spiritual body. Is there any way that God could have told us any
stronger that no one will have life after death before the resurrection?
5. THE INCONSISTENCY
OF MAKING DEATH A FRIEND (1 Corinthians 15:52-57). According to the belief of many,
the dead are instantly translated to Heaven at death and are with God. Yet they
do all they can, pray to God to keep the sick alive and out of Heaven, spend a great
sum of money to keep them on earth, and grieve when they think a loved one has
gone to be with Jesus. It is obvious there is an inconsistency in what they
claim to believe, and what they really believe, it is obvious that they believe
death to be an enemy, not a friend. Death is not an instant pass to Heaven
before the resurrection. Death is an enemy, never a friend (1 Corinthians
15:26).
1 Corinthians 15:18–if there is no resurrection
1. ÒThen those also who have
fallen asleep in Christ have perishedÓ
New American Standard Bible.
2. ÒThen those also who have
fallen asleep in Christ are lostÓ
New International Version.
3. ÒIf follows also that
those who have died within ChristÕs fellowship are utterly lostÓ Revised English Bible.
4. ÒAnd those in Christ who
have already died are lostÓ New
Century Version.
5. ÒAnd all of those who
died in Christ are goneÓ The
Simple English Bible.
6. ÒIn that case all
Christians who have died are lost!Ó
The Living Bible.
7. ÒMoreover those who have
died believing in Christ are utterly
dead and goneÓ J. B. Phillips.
8. ÒThose who have fallen asleep in Christ are the deadest of the deadÓ New
American Bible.
ÒIf
the dead are not raisedÓ (1
Corinthians 15:16-19).
1. ÒNeither has Christ been
raise.Ó
2. ÒYour faith is vain (useless).Ó
3. ÒYou are yet in your
sins.Ó
4. ÒThey also that are
fallen asleep (are dead) in Christ
have perished.Ó If there is no resurrection of the dead, there will be no
hereafter for anyone who has died. This ÒperishingÓ
would have been so complete and so final that there would be no hope of any
kind of life after the Òperishing.Ó
5. ÒIf we have only hoped in
Christ in this life, we are of all men most pitiableÓ for there would be no resurrection, no Judgment Day, no Òsecond death,Ó no eternal life.
If
an immaterial soul is the only thing that will never be dead, if a soul will
always live independent of the resurrection; then it is a fact that the
doctrine of an immortal soul that cannot die has pervaded over the doctrine of
a resurrection in many churches. THERE
COULD NOT BE A GOSPEL THAT IS MORE DIFFERENT THAN THE GOSPEL OF AN IMMORTAL
SOUL THAT WILL NEVER DIE. NOTHING IS MORE PLAINLY TAUGHT THEN THAT THERE WILL
BE NO LIFE FOR ANYONE AFTER DEATH BEFORE THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD AT THE
COMING OF CHRIST.
PaulÕs funeral sermon
ÒBut we do not want
you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will
not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died
and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in
Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that WE, who are alive and remain until the
coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord
Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of
God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then WE who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in
the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so WE shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another
with these wordsÓ
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18). The Thessalonians were not concerned that some of
their members had died and were with the Lord in Heaven, they were concerned about there members that had died before Christ
came, that they would not be there to meet Christ when He came. Paul points
out that those was no difference in privilege between those saints (persons)
that had fallen asleep before the coming of Christ and those that will be alive
when He comes, that both will be caught up at the same time to meet the Lord
when He comes. Paul did not comfort them then by telling them that their loved
ones were already up in Heaven looking down on them, he comforted them by
telling them that,
(a). Paul comforted them by telling them that
at the coming of Christ their loved one who had fallen asleep in Jesus Òwill rise first,Ó not a soul that they
know nothing about will be raised out of graves. It is by knowing that loved
ones who are now asleep in Jesus will be resurrected to life that gives both
the Thessalonians Christians and all Christians comfort, not an immortal soul
that is not dead. ÒAnd the dead in Christ
will rise first,Ó Christ will raise them that are dead from their graves,
not a resurrection of souls that are already alive in Heaven, or not alive in
AbrahamÕs bosom. The immortal soul doctrine is Pagan, not Christian;
immortality is promised to persons in Christ, it is not now possessed by living
saints or possessed by sleeping saints after death; no one will ever be alive and have immortality after death before or
without the resurrection at the coming of Christ.
(b). Then any that are alive when Christ
comes will be Òcaught up together with
them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.Ó
(c).
ÒAnd so we shall always be with the Lord.Ó Both (1)
the persons who are resurrected from sleep when Christ comes, (2) and the saved
persons that will be alive when Christ come.
The doctrine of being
awake in Heaven at death, or awake any other place before the resurrection is
both a rejection of PaulÕs inspired teaching and is changing GodÕs word to the Greek
Pagan teaching. How can anyone say they believe in the resurrection if they
believe no one is asleep to wake up, if they believe no one is dead to be
resurrected? If all Christians that died were now alive in Heaven, they would
not be dead to be resurrected.
NEW
BIBLE DICTIONARY, "The most startling characteristic of the first
Christian preaching is its emphasis on the resurrection. The first preachers
were sure that Christ had risen, and sure, in consequence, the believers would
in due course rise also. This set them off from all the other teachers of the
ancient world...Nothing is more characteristic of even the best thought of the
day than its hopelessness in the face of death. Clearly the resurrection is of
the very first importance for the Christian faith." Page
1010, 1996. The resurrection is a
New Testament teaching. The word resurrection is used forty-one times in the
New Testament but not once in the Old Testament.
ADAM CLARKE on 1 Corinthians 15:32, "I believe the common method of
pointing this verse is erroneous; I propose to read it: 'If,
after the manner of men, I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what does it
advantage me? If the dead rise not, let us eat and drink; for tomorrow we die.'
What the apostle says here is a regular
and legitimate conclusion from the doctrine that there is no resurrection; for if there be no resurrection, then there
can be no judgment–no future state or rewards and punishment;
why, therefore, should we bear crosses, and keep ourselves under continual
discipline? Let us eat and drink, take all the pleasure we can; for tomorrow we die, and there is an end
of us forever."
JERRY CROSS, "It is important to notice that Paul argues for a
resurrection, and not a release. Paul does not have in mind some disembodied
existence such as advocated by Greek thinkers such as Plato. Furthermore, Paul is arguing for a resurrection that is
a transformation and not a continuation or resumption of life just as it had
been laid down. The resurrected body is to be radically different from the body
of this earthly life (vv. 35-49). This is the same position argued by Jesus
against both the view of the Sadducees and that of the Pharisees (Matt.
22:23-33; esp. v. 30)." ÒPages 47-48, Magnolia Bible
CollegeÓ 1984 Lectures.
DILLARD THURMAN, Brown Trail Church of Christ, "The hope and
aspiration of many has been shifted from His coming again to receive His own,
to an immediate immortality and heavenly bliss immediately at death! Jesus DID
NOT promise that!" ÒGospel Minutes,Ó Volume 34, Number 5, February 1,
1985. ÒI have heard funeral orations extol the happiness and bliss the departed
has instantly with death: but on checking the New Testament assiduously, I have
yet to find a single promise where the dead go into heaven on an instant pass,
or have immediate conscious happiness.Ó ÒGospel Minutes," Volume 34,
Number 5, February 1, 1985.
The
resurrection of the dead was the backbone of the belief and teaching of the New
Testament Church (Philippians 3:10-11; Acts 17:31; 23:6; 24:15; John 6:39-54;
Luke 14:13-14; Hebrews 9:27; 1 Corinthians 15:1-58). If the body is only a
house in which a soul lives, then the putting off this house is not a death,
but only an immaterial something, what ever a soul is, moving from this house
to where ever an immaterial something moves to; if there were a soul that is
alive, and if anything comes forth out of a grave, it could only be the body of
flesh; and then that "soul" must come back from Heaven or wherever it
is to rejoin the body, or (1) if there is a soul that is in Heaven and it did
not leave Heaven and come back to earth we would have our dead earthly body
resurrected on earth, but with no "soul" (2) and a ÒsoulÓ would be alive
in Heaven with a disembodied existence, both at the same time. The apostles never preached a disembodied
life after death, but a resurrection of the persons that are asleep.
"God both raised the Lord, and will
raise up US" (1 Corinthians 6:14).
If we were now a two parts being of (1)
body and (2) a soul or a spirit; then what is the spiritual body that the saved
will "put on"
(1 Corinthians 15:44)? Is a "soul," as the word is used
today, different from the spiritual body that the resurrected persons that are
in Christ will put on at the resurrection? If this spirit or if this soul or
both are now in us, how can they be changed in any way? Will it be a different
soul from the soul that is now in us? If it will not be different, all we could
do would be to put off the body of flesh; then the immortal disembodied
something that we are told is in us would now be just as alive as it will
always be in Heaven; if not, why not? There could be no other change or a
resurrection; nothing other than putting off the body of flesh at death, and
souls that were in those who have died would have already put the body of flesh
off, and without the resurrection both souls and spirits would now be just as alive as they will
always be.
If "souls" are now immortal,
there will be no spiritual bodies for them put on at the resurrection. Paul
makes it clear that the immortal bodies we - persons, not souls, not spirits
will receive at the resurrection is different from and is not the mortal
earthly bodies we now have. "How are the
dead raised (dead persons, not
deathless souls raised from the undead), and with what manner of body do they come?Ó
What kind of body will the dead persons be raised with at the resurrection?" (1 Corinthians 15:35).
ÒSO WILL IT BE WITH
THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEADÓ
1. "You sow (bury) not
the body that shall be"
(1 Corinthians 15:37). There is no way that Paul could have said any
stronger that the earthly body that is buried is not the body that will be raised
at the resurrection.
2. "It
(the body) is sown (buried) in corruption; it (the earthly body that was buried) is raised in incorruption" (1 Corinthians 15:42).
3. ÒIt (the
body) is sown (buried) in weakness; it (the body that was buried) is raised in powerÓ (1 Corinthians 15:43).
4. ÒIt
(the body) is sown (buried) a natural body; it (the buried natural earthly body) is raised a spiritual bodyÓ (1 Corinthians 15:44). Both times
ÒbodyÓ is from the same Greek word; the resurrected body will be just as much a
ÒbodyÓ as the earthly body now is, but the resurrected body will not be the
earthly body that was buried.
5. "And as we (persons) have borne
the image of the earthy (Adam), we (persons) shall also bear the image of the heavenly (Christ)" (1
Corinthians 15:49). It is the same persons ÒweÓ that are now in the earthly image
of Adam that will be changed to the heavenly image of Christ; those that
believe there is a soul do not believe that a soul now is, or ever was in the
earthly image of Adam.
6. ÒWe all shall not sleep, but we (persons, not souls) shall
all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eyeÓ (1 Corinthians
15:51).
7. "The dead
(dead persons, not dead souls) shall be raised incorruptible and we (Christians
that will be living when Christ comes) shall be changed" (1
Corinthians 15:52).
8. "Now we
are children of God, and what we
will be has not yet been made known. But we
(persons, not souls) know that
when Christ appears, we shall
be like Him; for we shall see Him
even as He is" (1 John 3:2, New International Version).
9. Christ
Òwill transform our lowly bodies so that they
(Òour lowly bodiesÓ that we now
have) will be like his glorious bodyÓ
(Philippians 3:21).
10. ÒBy his power God raised the Lord from the
dead, and he will raise us alsoÓ
(1 Corinthians 6:14).
11.
For we
know that if the earthly tent we
live in is destroyed, we have a
building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human handsÓ (2
Corinthians 5:1).
12. ÒAt one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all
kinds of passions and pleasures. We
lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.
He saved us through the washing of
rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, who he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our savior, so that, having been
justified by his grace, WE might become
heirs having the hope of eternal lifeÓ (Titus 3:4-5). If there were a
deathless soul living in a person, that soul would not have Òthe hope of eternal life;Ó most that
believe there is an immortal soul believe all souls and spirits in both the
saved and the lost now already have endless life.
13. ÒI am going there (to his fathers
house in Heaven) to prepare a place for YOU. And if I go and prepare a place
for YOU, I will come back and TAKE YOU to be with me that YOU also may be where I amÓ (John
14:2-3, New International Version).
14. ÒMy brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the
truth and someone should bring that
person back, remember this:
Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their
way will save them from death and cover over a multitude
of sinsÓ (James 5:19-20, New International Version). Not save a deathless
soul from a death that it cannot die as the mistranslated in the King James
Version says; not as is taught today that all are born with a deathless
something in them that is immortal, and it, not the dead person it had been in,
will live without the resurrection, but that deathless soul must be saved from
the death it cannot die, and cannot be resurrected from the death that it is
not dead. ÒShall save a soul from deathÓ
King James Version; how could a soul that cannot be dead be saved from Òdeath?Ó
Unconditional immortality teaching is that
A. Teaches that souls that are in both the
saved and the lost both already have eternal life.
B.
Teaches that a soul will be alive after death before the resurrection; and it
will be "at home with the Lord,"
or will be tormented in Hell by God from the time of the death of the person
before and without the resurrection.
C.
Teaches that a soul will be no more alive after the resurrection than it now is
before the resurrection.
D.
Teaches that the wages of sin cannot be death for a soul that cannot be dead.
DAVID OWEN said in 1996 Florida College Lectures, page 216 that it
should be noted that Paul said we would be raised with a spiritual body, not a spirit. It will be "us" that will
be raised with a new "spiritual
body," not an undying spirit that is now in a person that is not dead
being raised from Heaven.
STEWARD SALMOND, ÒThe new body will be our body, and yet will be different from that of which we have
experience, superior to it in incorruptibility, in honor, and in power, in
freedom from waste, decay, and death, in the glory of perfection, in ability to
discharge its function. It shall cease to be a natural or sensuous body, fit
only for earthy, dependent conditions, and it shall become a Ôspiritual body.Õ
The congruous instrument of a higher order of life for which the limitations of
sense and time no more subsist.Ó ÒThe Christian Doctrine Of Immortality,Ó page
456, 1901.
If
the resurrection were taken from the Bible, it would not affect the man made theology
of many churches today. They take a short cut and send souls that they believe
had been in the dead saints directly to Heaven at the death of the person a
soul was in without the resurrection. Because they believe everyone is born
with a deathless soul in them, which is the only thing that they believe will
be in Heaven, ÒitÓ does not need to put on immortality at the resurrection; this
disembodied ÒitÓ will have bypassed the resurrection by going straight to
Heaven when it leaves the dead person it had been in.
JUSTIN MARTYR, one of the "church fathers" said those,
"Who say there is no resurrection of the dead, and that their souls, when
they die, are taken to heaven are not Christian at all."
Satan's lie,
"You shall not surely die"
after being changed from ÒyouÓ to
"Your soul shall not surely die" has succeeded to the point that many
now say, "No Christ, there is something in me that needs no resurrection,
this being that has no substance is now immortal and at my death it will come
to You in Heaven; whatever this invisible being that is in me is, it will not
wait to go to Heaven unto after your second coming and the resurrection." A faith in something God has not spoken is
a vain useless faith; therefore, a faith based on life after death because
there is an immortal soul that is not subject to death is a vain faith that is
based on a lie. The belief in the resurrection and the need for it has been
abandoned by many, but the Bible teaches that all die, and none will live
before the resurrection; without the resurrection there would be no life for
anyone after death, no life for the saved, or no life for the lost.
(4). THE REINTERPRETATION OF THE WAGES OF SIN
MAKES"THE
WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH" IMPOSSIBLE
BY ELIMINATING DEATH (Romans
6:23)
If
a soul cannot die, it cannot pay the wages of sin, which is to die; therefore, Òthe wages of sinÓ had to be changed from
death to a deathless life of torment, but torment only for a soul, not for the
person that sinned.
Romans
6:23, "The wages of sin is
death" has been reinterpreted to be an endless life with torment for a
soul that will live after the person that sinned that it had been in is dead. I cannot understand how
anyone can read ÒdeathÓ and
understand death to be an endless life, Òthe wages of sin is a endless life of
suffering.Ó Nor can I understand why anyone would want there to be souls that are
endlessly suffering, endlessly tormented by God; nor why anyone would want to
worship a God that was a tormenter.
James
1:15, "And sin, when it is accomplished, it brings forth death."
According to many James should have said, "And when it is accomplished,
sin brings forth endless life in Hell to be endlessly tormented by God."
As long as a person has life, that person
is not dead; therefore, as long as any Òimmaterial part of a personÓ (W. E.
Vine) is alive, whatever that Òimmaterial part of a personÓ is believed to be, it has
not received Òthe wages of sin;Ó nor
can that Òpart of a personÓ be said to be dying if death can never be reached.
Mankind does not like death, and many have made themselves believe there is no real death, and a soul that
is believed to have been in a saved person already has immortality, the promise
of "eternal life" must be changed
from being eternal life for the person to being just a reward for a soul that
already has eternal life. If only the earthly body dies, not the real
"us," then the resurrection could not be the center of the Gospel (1
Corinthians 15:1-10); it could not even be a part of the Gospel; therefore, the
undying immortal soul doctrine takes the resurrection out of the Gospel; both
the resurrection of Christ and our resurrection.
Never a victory
Evil
and good beings must live side by side. If death is only separation from God,
the separation must go on forever. There
never can be an end to death; never can be an end to separation, for if the
separation did end, both the lost and the saved would then be together. If
there is never a victory there will never be an end to evil. Satan, evil
angels, and evil men are just moved to another place, not ended, and not
defeated. They will remain just as evil, just as much in rebellion to God as
they are now. According to the traditional doctrine of Hell there will be two
kingdoms, the Kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan with the kingdom of Satan
having many more souls in it than the Kingdom of God. What kind of victory
would that be? It makes Satan win.
Death
will be our enemy only unto our resurrection at the coming of Christ; to say
death does not really mean death, that death just means endless life that is separated
from God is spiritualization - giving words meaning that they do not have.
(5). THE REINTERPRETATION
OF THE JUDGMENT DAY
MAKES THE JUDGMENT A MOCKERY AND NOT NEEDED
The Judgment
Day at the coming of Christ is opposed to an immortal soul being translated
instantly to Heaven, Hell, or to AbrahamÕs bosom at death; if there is a
judgment day of all, of both saved and lost persons that is to come after the
second coming of Christ, then it is positive proof that the doctrine of a soul
going to Heaven or Hell when the person it had been in is dead is not true. The
popular idea of an immortal soul going instantly to Heaven at death makes the
resurrection and judgment to be out of place, useless, and meaningless; many have
abandoned it. The Judgment Day is made at the most to be nothing more than another
reward day for these souls that has been already judged and rewarded.
The
judgment of all, both the saved and the lost person, not souls, will take place
on a special day in the future, the
day of the second coming of Christ, not
at death (Matthew 16:27; John 5:27-29; 2 Timothy 4:1; 1 Corinthians 4:5; 2
Peter 3:7; Acts 17:31; Matthew 10:15; 11:22; 11:24; Mark 6:11; Matthew 7:22;
Luke 19:22; John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 11:24; 12:48; Romans 2:5; 2:16; 1
Corinthians 1:8; 3:13; Ephesians 4:30; 6:13; Philippians 1:6; 1:10; 2:16; 1
Thessalonians 5:2; 5:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 2:3; 2 Timothy 1:12; 1:18; 4:8; 2
Peter 2:9; 3:7; 3:10; 3:12; 1 John 4:17; Jude 6). The Bible is so clear on when
every person will be judged that I find it difficult to understand how anyone
can read the Bible, and then say judgment to be saved or loss is at the time of
our death.
A second judgment
If
all are translated instantly to Heaven, Hell, or to
AbrahamÕs bosom at death as is taught by today's theology, would not a second judgment at the coming of Christ make God unsure of
Himself? If in all the billions He would have had judged at their death and
sent them to Heaven or Hell, if He found just one that He had misjudged, just
one that was in Hell that should not be, or if just one soul was in Heaven that
should not be then God would not be infallible; therefore, He would not be God.
Satan fashions himself as an angel of light and his ministers as ministers of
righteousness, and they have done their work well (2 Corinthians 11:14-15).
KENNETH FORTIER, ÒThe
immortality of the soul makes a mockery of all this. Resurrection becomes
superfluous, since we can relate to Christ Ôout of body.Õ Because the saints
have already spent long ages with Christ, the Parousia becomes something less
than the great ÔrevelationÕ portrayed by Scripture. Finally, the Judgment is
transformed into a farce. After spending thousands of years in heaven, will
Abel have to pass before the bar of divine justice to determine whether or not
his name is written in the Book of Life? Conversely, will Judas be summoned
from a hell he has occupied for two millennia to discover if he is really among
the damned? Any doctrine, which allows for such scenarios ought to be suspect
from the very outset.Ó ÒResurrection Magazine,Ó Volume 95, Number 2, 1992.
ROMAN CATHOLIC
ENCYCLOPEDIA, "Hell" by P. Kreeft, "God must appoint some fixed
term for the time of trial, after which the just will enter into the secure
possession of a happiness that can never again be lost in all
eternity...Accordingly, it is the belief of all people that eternal retribution
is dealt out immediately after death."
Many
Protestants now believe this teaching that came into the church in the Dark Age
that a soul, not the person, goes to Heaven or Hell immediately after the death
of the person a soul had been in; therefore, their judgment must be immediately
after death, not at the second coming of Christ, not on the appointed day. ÒInasmuch as He has appointed a day in which He will judge the worldÓ
(Acts 17:31). ÒIt is appointed unto men
once to die, but after this the judgmentÓ (Hebrews 9:27). ÒFor we must all be made manifest before the
judgment-seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things done in the body,
according to what he has done, whether it be good or badÓ (2 Corinthians
5:10). There will be a day of judgment
when all, every person, not every whatever a soul is, will come before the
judgment-seat of Christ, not a judgment of each person at death. "Do not
marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will
come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment" (John 5:28-29, also 2 Corinthians
5:10). The resurrection at the coming of Christ will have two groups, (1) those
resurrected to life, (2) those resurrected to judgment. The dead will hear the voice of Jesus Òwhen they are in their gravesÓ and Òcome outÓ of their graves, not will hear when they are in Heaven,
Hell, or Abraham's bosom. The resurrection is not a bringing back from
Heaven or Hell those who are not dead; it will be a real resurrection from a
real death. Jesus clearly said, ÒALL who are in their graves.Ó He
did not say, "Souls of all that are in Heaven, Hell, or AbrahamÕs bosom.Ó It
is a person, not a soul that is in a grave. If the dead now have life in Heaven,
life in Hell, or life in AbrahamÕs bosom then Christ was wrong. ÒFor this is the will of my Father that everyone that beholds the Son, and
believes on him should have eternal life;
and I will raise HIM up at the last dayÓ (John 6:39-40) ÒAnd I
will raise HIM up in the last dayÓ (John 6:44) ÒAnd I will raise HIM up at the last dayÓ (John 6:54). "I
know that HE shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day" (John 11:24).
(6). THE REINTERPRETATION OF DEATH
NOT TO BE DEATH, BUT ETERNAL LIFE
EITHER ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN
OR ETERNAL LIFE IN HELL
BEFORE THE RESURRECTION AND JUDGMENT
AND BEFORE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
"To die" never signifies "to live in torment." If Abraham,
David, and all the saints of the Old Testament were in Heaven they were there both
before and without the death of Christ, and without the resurrection; neither the
death of Christ, nor His resurrection would not have been needed, nor would
there be any death to abolish to a ÒsoulÓ that cannot be dead.
Death
would have been destroyed by changing death into endless life for everyone at
the time of their death, not at Christ's second coming. Death would have been
destroyed for those in the Old Testament before and without the death of Christ
by putting them all in Heaven or Hell at the time of their death.
If
death takes anyone to Heaven it would not be an enemy to him or her.
Death
would not be death. Changing from life on this earth to life in Heaven, or to
life in Hell would be life for the souls that had been in both (1) the saved (2)
and in the lost.
There cannot
be eternal life in Hell
ÒThe free gift of God
is eternal life in Christ Jesus our LordÓ (Romans 6:23). Without being
in Christ there is no eternal life. ÒHe that believes on the Son has eternal
life; but he that obeys not the Son shall not see lifeÓ (John 3:36). DEATH IS NOT LIFE, the doctrine of the immortality of a soul, which gives endless life to
the lost, is a direct contradiction to the Bible. There is not a passage in the Bible that says there is a soul
that is in the lost that now has immortality, or that there is a soul in the
lost that will be raised immortal or imperishable, but many passages that say
the unsaved persons will Òperish,Ó
will be Òdestroyed.Ó ÒHe
that believes on the Son of God has the witness in him: he that believes not God has made Him a liar; because he has not believed in the witness that
God has borne concerning His Son. And the witness is this that God gave unto us eternal life, and this life is in
His Son. He that has the Son has the
life. He that has not the Son has not lifeÓ (1 John 5:10-12). What we
believe does make a difference. God said, ÒYou shall surely die.Ó Satan said, ÒYou shall not surely die.Ó
Which one do you believe?
(7). THE REINTERPRETATION OF ASLEEP
ARE THE DEAD ASLEEP OR AWAKE?
What is
asleep, the body, or a soul, or a spirit, or the whole person? The scriptures
never speak of a soul being asleep, nor is it only the body being asleep, nor a
spirit being asleep, but the whole person as being asleep, and the whole person
will be asleep unto the resurrection day when the whole person will be
resurrected. If Christ was not raised the dead are gone; those who are asleep
in Christ will never wake up. The Bible must be changed, and made to say that a
soul that many believe is the only part of a person will be in Heaven is not
asleep, and it can never sleep. 1 Corinthians 15:18 "Then they also that are fallen asleep in Christ have perished (Apollumi)." When Paul said those who are asleep in
Christ have "perished," he
is saying the dead saints will never live again anywhere if there is no
resurrection from the sleep of death. The dead saints are gone "perished" forever. He is not
saying they have just "lost
their well being," or that souls that had been in the dead saints are
alive somewhere even if Christ was not raised from the dead. Perished
cannot be changed to tormented, perish is a total end, for if "perished" means
"tormented," then Paul said those who are "asleep in Christ" will be "tormented" if there
is no resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:12-19). If whatever it is that is believed
by many to be in a person cannot die, if whatever the something is that had
been in the dead saints, if it must forever live somewhere then Paul has no
argument, and there cannot be a resurrection of the undead that cannot die, that
are alive. Paul's argument has been neutralized, and he is made to be saying
nothing; the death and resurrection of Christ has been made to be useless and
not needed? Paul said the dead in Christ
are asleep, the pagan theology of many that say they are Christians says not so
Paul, all the dead in Christ had a deathless soul in them that after their death
and that soul is awake in Heaven.
(a). Jesus said, "Lazarus is fallen asleep" (John 11:11).
(b). Then said, "Lazarus is dead" (John
11:14).
(c). It was Lazarus the
person that was asleep, it was the person that was dead, and it was Lazarus the
person that was resurrected, not a soul.
He
did not say Lazarus's body is asleep, but a soul is now alive in Heaven.
Lazarus would have spent four days in Heaven, but Lazarus or none of the others
in the Bible that were raised from the dead never said one word about what
Heaven was like. Do you think that if they had seen the joy of Heaven, or the
pain of Hell, which many believe they would have seen, that not a single one
that was brought back from Heaven or Hell could have kept quiet about what they
had seen? Could you? They said nothing because, as Christ said, they were "asleep" not more alive than
the living; they had seen nothing. Lazarus was a problem to the chief priests
and Pharisees because everyone knew he had been dead and he was alive (John
11:47), not because he was telling of what he had seen. Not a one that was
brought back from the dead had an "afterlife experience." Why?
Because they were "asleep."
Is earth better than Heaven; if Lazarus were in Heaven for four days, would he
want to come back to earth? Would you or anyone want to leave Heaven and come
back to this earth? Why would Christ have been cruel to Lazarus by taking him
out of the joy of Heaven?
The living saints
Will not precede the sleeping dead saints
ÒFor this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that WE who are alive and remain until the
coming of the Lord, will not precede those
who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with
a shout, with the voice of the
archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the
dead in Christ will rise first. Then WE
who are alive and remain will be caught
up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so WE shall always be with the LordÓ (1 Thessalonians
4:15-17). Just as the saints that are alive when Christ comes shall not go
before the saints that are asleep, those
saints who are asleep have not already gone before the living saints. Both
will Òbe caught up togetherÓ and Òmeet the Lord in the airÓ together. It
is the person that is asleep that will be caught up, not an immortal soul that
is asleep; Òsoul sleepingÓ is not in the Bible, but a person sleeping unto the
awakening, which is at the resurrection is Biblical.
(a).
ÒTo be the judge the living and the deadÓ (Acts10:42).
(b).
ÒWho shall judge the living and the deadÓ (2 Timothy 4:l).
(c).
ÒReady to judge the living and the deadÓ (1 Peter 4:5).
The judgment of
neither the living or the dead has not taken place, and will not unto the
resurrection; their judgment has not already preceded the judgment of the
living. At His coming Christ will judge both (1) the living, those who will be
alive on earth, (2) and the dead, those who will have died before He come (2
Timothy 4:1).
Gathered to his people
Abraham
(Genesis 25:8-9) and others died, and were "gathered
to his people," was buried
where his people were buried. How could it be said any clearer that the dead Abraham was buried
where his dead kin had already been buried. The argument is made that
this could not refer to Abraham but only to a soul that was Ògathered to his people,Ó therefore, the Bible must be changed from Abraham that
was gathered to his people to a soul that had been in Abraham that was gathered
to souls that had been in his people despite the fact that in the Bible nothing
is said about these souls. If that were true, then the souls that were gathered
together would be asleep together, not awake together; therefore, it would
prove that if there were sleeping souls they would not be conscious after
death. The Hebrew belief was that both the good and the bad went to sheol–graves. See Genesis 3:7-35; Job 7:21; 14:12;
24:19; Psalm 13:3; 1610; 31:17. "Slept
with his fathers" is in the
Old Testament about 38 times.
1. Abraham
"was gathered to his people" (Genesis 25:8-9). Abraham, not a soul that that has been in Abraham was gathered to
(buried with) his people, not a soul gathered to the souls that had been in his
people.
2. "Moses, Behold, you shall sleep with your fathers" (Deuteronomy 31:16).
3. "So David slept with his fathers" (1 Kings 2:10; 11:21).
"David...fell asleep, and was laid (buried) among his fathers, and underwent decay" (Acts 13:36). The David that
fell asleep and underwent decay was David himself, not a soul that had been in
David that was laid (buried) among the souls of his fathers; nothing is said
about an immaterial soul that had been in David being buried (ÒlaidÓ) and that soul being
asleep among his fathers. David himself has not yet ascended to Heaven (Acts
2:29-35).
4. "From the day that
the fathers fell asleep" (2
Peter 3:4). Those that use this to prove that there are souls that never
die do not believe what they make this passage teach, that souls sleep (Òsoul sleepingÓ);
it was the fathers – mortal persons that fell asleep, not immortal souls
that had been in the fathers that are asleep. They change ÒfathersÓ to Òsouls of the fathersÓ fell asleep, but they do not
believe their own change–that souls that have left the dead persons are
asleep, they do not believe in Òsoul sleeping.Ó
5. "Christ...the first fruits of them that are asleep" (1
Corinthians 15:20). Christ is the only one who has been raised from the
dead, and He is the only one who is not now "asleep."
ÒThat are asleepÓ is present tenses, ALL
the dead but Christ was ÒasleepÓ when
Paul wrote this; ALL dead persons were
asleep, nothing is said in the Bible about souls that are asleep or awake.
If,
"Gathered to his people,Ó means
"awake" then, "asleep"
has to be changed to mean, "awake." If not, then wherever Abraham was
he would be "asleep," and
he would not know where he was, or who was with him. How could Christ be the
first fruits if Abraham was alive before Him?
Abraham's father served other gods. "Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nahor: and they
served other gods" (Joshua 24:2), which, according to most Catholics
and Protestants would send souls that they say was in them to Hell, but both
Catholics and Protestants believe AbrahamÕs soul went to Heaven, and was "gathered to his people," which would include his father. Both seem to be
somewhat unsure of where Abraham is; not sure if Abraham was "gathered to his people" in sheol, which is grave, or if he is in Heaven
and not gathered to all his people, for his
father the idolater they believe his soul is in Hell for idolaters cannot be in
Heaven.
Not
one of the passages, which speak of persons being "gathered to his people,Ó
are not speaking of any person or of any soul being gathered in Heaven. Sheol -
a grave is not Heaven; therefore, these passages are about dead persons being
buried where other dead persons were buried, not speaking of a soul being
translated to Heaven, even though they are often used to prove souls do go to
Heaven at the death of the persons they were in.
The state of the dead. The analogy of ÒsleepÓ is used throughout the Bible, about 47 times in the Old
Testament and about 17 times in the New Testament. If death does not indicate
unconsciousness, then the analogy of sleep, which is used throughout the Bible,
would be meaningless if the dead are awake in Heaven or Hell. Deuteronomy
31:16; 2 Samuel 7:12; 1 Kings 1:21; 2:10; 11:21; 11:43; 14:20; 14:31; 15:8;
15:24; 16:6; 16:28; 22:40; 22:50; 2 Kings 8:24; 10:35; 13:9; 13:13; 14:16;
14:22; 14:29; 15:7; 15:22; 15:38; 16:20; 20:21; 21:18; 24:6; 2 Chronicles 9:31;
12:16; 14:1; 16:13; 21:1; 16:2; 26:23; 27:9; 28:27; 32:33; 33:20; Job 3:13;
7:21; 14:12; Psalm 13:3; 76:5; 90:5; Jeremiah 51:39; 51:57; Matthew 9:24;
27:52; Mark 5:39; Luke 8:52; John 11:11-14; Acts 7:60; 13:36; 1 Corinthians
11:30; 15:6; 15:18; 15:20; 15:51; 1 Thessalonians 4:13; 4:14; 4:15; 5:10; 2
Peter 3:4. The scriptures often speak
of persons being ÒasleepÓ after
death, but never says animals sleep when they die, just as it is never says
that the lost will be asleep after Òthe
second death.Ó
The state of persons who are ÒasleepÓ
(a). Their thoughts
have perished (Psalm 146:4).
(b). They are as
though they had never been (Job 3:11-18; Psalm 39:13; 146:2).
(c). They have no
remembrance of God (Psalm 6:5).
(d). They rest in the
dust of the earth (Job 17:13).
(e). They cannot give
thanks to God (Isaiah 38:18).
(f). ÒThe dead know not
anythingÓ (Ecclesiastes 9:5; 9:10).
(g). They have
perished if there is no resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:18). The
resurrection is the only hope for the dead. Without it, the dead will never
have life again.
E.
D. SLOUGH, evangelist,
Church of Christ, ÒWhile these patriarchs and prophets were talking so much
about the Ôdead bodyÕ having no
wisdom, no thoughts, no praises, no knowledge, and no intelligence of any sort,
why did they not draw on the spirit a little for our special edification, and
teach us that there is wisdom and knowledge and thoughts and praises where it
goes? Why not? Why talk so much and so dramatically about the dead body, and tell
us that which all know, and say not one encouraging word about the joys and
praises the spirits are giving God in the unseen world? Is there nothing
significant about that omission? Why did they not cheer up our earth life, by
painting a picture of the hosts of happy spirits in the unseen world of the
dead? That would have been real instruction. That would have been, indeed,
information, and would have settled a long drawn argument. Do you want the real
reason for this action on the part of inspired men? Here it is. Obviously, they
were speaking of the whole creature man. They saw no spirit off yonder praising
God as Milligan, McGarvey, and others. They saw death the end of man, and they
pointed it out as such, including his thoughts perishing in death, which means
the dissolution of all his faculties. They did not talk of the thoughts being
transferred, but perishing. The only possible result of death, destroying the
organism by which thought is possible. Never a time did they say, ÔThere is
wisdom and knowledge with the spirits of the dead.Õ How easy it would have been
to say it. But had they said it, they could not have said the other. There are
two propositions–one or the other must be untrue. Look at the incongruity
of reasoning standing out like a huge knot on a limb. Some one says, ÔJohn Doe
is dead.Õ And that there is no remembrances or praise where he went. He knows
not anything. But immediately they tell us Ôthe real John Doe is the spiritÕ
and that it knows better than before. The man of God said, Ôwhither thou goÕ
there is no wisdom, etc. ÔThouÕ John Doe. Men say ÔThouÕ means the spirit, and
that it never ceases to think. Our clergy and the wise men are at variance
again. What shall we do? We will leave them that way–if they canÕt see
the truth. Thus, and he is not dead.
His thoughts perish, and they do not
perish. He praised God, and he does
not praise Him. He remembers, and he
does not remember. All at the same
time–the same John DoeÉThey
can not even suggest a reason why those ancient mouth pieces of God should
argue and repeat and emphasize and affirm and declare over and over that the
Ôdead bodyÕ knows nothing, remembers nothing, praised nothing, thinks nothing
and does nothing, which is only a deep and solemn fact known by all the living,
and never open their mouths once about
the spirit being able to do all these things. It would have been in perfect
accord with their enthusiasm along this line to have said, ÔCheer up and
rejoice, for though the dead body has no knowledge, no wisdom, no thoughts,
etc., yet the spirit is rejoicing and happy, thinking and praising God.Õ What a relief that would have been to modern theology. But
the fact that such was not the case, is proof that it is not true.Ó "Indictment Of Eternal
Torment–The Self-negation of a
Monstrous Doctrine," pages
191–194, F. L. Rowe, Publisher, 1914. This book is free on line at www.robertwr.com/EternalTorment.htm
D.
Padfield seems to make knowing, or not knowing each other in Heaven to be
dependent on Abraham now being awake with his people. He leaves out the
resurrection, and makes Abraham now be alive without it. He jumps from the dead
being in sheol (grave) to Heaven as if they are the
same place, and everything is the same in both. What we will be and know in
Heaven after the resurrection does not depend on what we will know while in a
grave, and will not depend there being souls that are now awake while the dead persons
they were in are in graves. He is so desperately trying to prove persons now have
an immortal something in them that he is saying to God, "Abraham being Ògathered to his peopleÓ proves he is not
Òasleep with his people." Those
who believe in ÒAbrahamÕs bosomÓ use this view, but in this attempt to prove that
the dead are not asleep, they make both the saved and the unsaved be awake, but
they are not awake in Heaven or Hell, but this view is that those in AbrahamÕs
bosom are not dead; therefore, cannot be resurrected from the dead.
He makes
(a). He makes the dead not be dead but alive.
(b). He makes those who "sleep with the fathers" are not asleep, but they are
someplace "awake with the fathers," but who knows where someplace is.
(c). He makes the resurrection impossible if
there is a soul in a person that is not dead.
(d). He makes the Bible not mean what it
says. The many times the Bible says "sleep
with the fathers" the Bible must
be changed to say "awake with the fathers," and it makes the many
times the Bible uses the metaphor of sleep for death not be true.
The awakening, wakening up at the resurrection
The
resurrection will be an awakening. Death is likened to sleep because it is a
state of unconsciousness, which will be followed by an awakening. Christ is the
first fruits, and the rest of the dead will be resurrected "at his coming" (1 Corinthians 15:23). Abraham and his
people fell asleep, and will be asleep unto the resurrection, "From the day that the fathers fell
asleep" (2 Peter 3:4). The
Christian hope is not on death, not on a soul being awake anywhere before the
resurrection, but on the resurrection of persons to life, on persons being
resurrected from the dead at the second coming of Christ.
ALBERT BARNES, "In the Scripture sleep is used to intimate that
death will not be final: that there will be an awakening out of this sleep, or
a resurrection. It is a beautiful and tender expression, removing all that is
dreadful in death, and filling the mind with the idea of calm repose after a
life of toil, with a reference to a future resurrection." Barnes' Notes On the New Testament.
What is the resurrection?
Is
it spirits or souls that are now awake and living in Heaven, or awake in Hell,
or awake in AbrahamÕs bosom returning to their earthly bodies?
Or
is it all persons that are asleep in graves that will wake up and come out of
their graves at the second coming of Christ and the judgment?
Some
of the saints had fallen asleep. Not just the body had fallen asleep, but the "living being," the whole
person was asleep (1 Corinthians 15:6). The Bible nowhere speaks of the person
being asleep while some immaterial, invisible something that had been in a
person is awake. It is the whole person that sleeps unto the resurrection, and
the whole person that will wake up at the resurrection. If only the body was
asleep with a spirit alive in Heaven, why would there never be a hint that the
real person was not asleep in any of the passages that use sleep as a metaphor
of death?
Abraham, where are you?
Three views about where Abraham is.
1. BIBLE VIEW. Abraham is
asleep with the fathers.
2. ROMAN CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT VIEW. Abraham was
awake in a chamber inside of the earth was believed for centuries, but now Abraham
has been moved and Abraham is now awake in Heaven.
3. A NEWER VIEW. Abraham is
awake in Abraham's bosom, the good side of hades. This view has been widely
taught in the Church of Christ, the Christian Church, and others.
Many who do not know whether they believe #2 or #3 will say some loved
one had gone to be with Jesus in Heaven, but if they are trying to prove a soul
is alive before the resurrection will use Luke 16. Abraham is moved back and
forth (1) from a chamber inside of the earth, (2) to Heaven, (3) or to wherever
Abraham's bosom is as they need to, but most do not seem to know they are
moving Abraham.
(8). THE REINTERPRETATION OF THE LIFE
THAT CHRIST PROMISED
TO THEM THAT OBEY HIM
John 4:14; 4:36; 5:21; 6:40. If all are born with an
immortal soul that cannot die, all have endless life, and Christ could only
give them a reward, but not endless life. Unconditional immortality gives souls
in sinners and the saved endless life without the death of Christ and without
the resurrection.
(9). THE REINTERPRETATION OF FIRE
TO BE SOMETHING
THAT CANNOT BURN UP ANYTHING
See chapter eight, part two, symbolic pictures, the lake of fire.
TWO
VERY DIFFERENT GOSPELS
Unconditional
immortality of a Òsoul,Ó and the resurrection of dead persons are two very
different Gospels (Galatians 1:6-9). There is a dividing line between unconditional
immortality and conditional immortality so sharp that the two are completely
different Gospels that are as far apart as night and day. Both cannot be true.
One is a "delusion" (2
Thessalonians 2:11, King James Version) "A
working of error" (American Standard Version). Unconditional
immortality is very different from anything preached in Paul's day (Galatians
1:6). It is the "doctrines and
precepts of men" (Matthew 15:9), and is wresting the writings of Paul
and the other scriptures (2 Peter 3:16). It takes away a need for the death of
Christ, and the need of the resurrection.
TWO INCOMPATIBLE BELIEFS
Either one makes the other one impossible
The resurrection makes an immortal never dying soul
impossible. If there were a soul that is not dead, that soul that is alive
cannot be raised from the dead.
Unconditional immortality
1. Makes the resurrection an unanswerable
problem
If there
were a soul that is immortal and never dies, what will be the use of the
resurrection? What will be raised from the dead?
2. Makes a real resurrection impossible
These two Gospels, (1) the resurrection of the dead person, (2) or an
undying immortal soul, are so
opposed and contradictory to each other that if one is true, it makes the other
one a lie of Satan that will destroy you at the judgment; they are not
compatible. If one is true, then the other one cannot be. Believing
unconditional immortal is disbelieving God; believing this doctrine, or not
believing it can be the difference in whether you believe God or man. One came
from man and is vain worship (Matthew 15:9). Christ taught the resurrection of
the dead; it is our only hope of life after death, not the existence of an
immortal and never dying soul that cannot be dead, and that cannot be resurrected
from the undead.
THE SILENCE OF THE BIBLE
All the
great doctrines of the Bible are clearly expressed. The doctrine of God, of
Christ, the resurrection, the church, the judgment, sin, etc., are all as clear
and plain as our language can say them, but the doctrine of an "immortal
soul," or "a never-dying soul," which is constantly expressed
today, cannot be found in the Bible. From where did it come? If anyone
believes, practices, or teaches anything in the name of Christ, they are
obligated to prove it from the Bible. If they do not or cannot, it is a sin to
believe, practice, or teach it. It is up to the person who affirms anything to
prove it. Have those who believe in and teach Hell proved it to be from God's
word? Hell must be proved to be in
the Bible if it is taught. At the judgment, what will you say to God if there
is no Hell and you have taught many that God was the cruel and sadistic God of
Hell that will torment most souls forever without ever any mercy?
How many times can a person make Christ a
liar by believing and teaching the opposite of what He taught and attributing
these lies to Him? How often can we attribute the teaching of man to Christ
before it becomes the "precepts of
man" and "vain
worship?" (Matthew 15:9). Will you say to God
at the judgment that you loved your heathen man made theology, a different
gospel, more than His word?
It adds to the book of Revelation
Most
all who believe in Hell misuse many symbolic passages in Revelation to prove it. John said, "If
any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are
written in this book" (Revelation 22:18). Do some love this cruel and
evil teaching enough to have these plagues added to them selves?
"Heavier
judgment" James 3:1
"Vain
worship" Matthew 15:9
When we teach things that slander God, and makes the death and
resurrection of Christ not needed, etc., we teachers will answer to God at the
judgment with a heavier judgment. As teacher we will be judged for not knowing
and teachings the truth. We teach that following the teaching of man is vain
worship and sinful for others, but it is as sinful for us when we do the same
things. If we are not sure beyond any doubt that God's word teaches that God
will endless torment souls in Hell, but teach God is a tormenter, and it is the
commandments of men, it may be the difference in living or dying Òthe second deathÓ for us. "Whatsoever is not of faith is
sin" (Romans 14:23), and faith comes by hearing the word of Christ
(Romans 10:17); therefore, if the
doctrine of Hell is not taught in the Bible it is sin to believe or teach it.
Do we think this would not apply to us if we teach anything that we have any
doubt about? At the judgment we will give an answer for both what we teach, and
for what we do not teach. If we teach Hell, or that when a person was born
there was a deathless something put in him or her that will not die when the
person dies, and that God cannot destroy whatever a soul is believed to be,
then we better make sure that what we teach is from the Bible; for we will
answer to God in the very same way as anyone teaching "faith only,"
or any other doctrine of men. Do some condemn themselves by teaching it is a
sin to change God's word, and then preaching what may be the biggest change
ever made to it? There is no acceptable reason for a gospel preacher not to
know and teach the truth. What will they say to God at the judgment?
It is taught by some
that the promise of being immediately in Heaven with God has more comfort than
the promise of being in Heaven after the resurrection.
(a). Comfort that is based on a lie (Òyou shall not surely dieÓ) is a vain
useless comfort.
(b). To add to or change GodÕs word is a sin.
(c). Only by teaching the truth can a teacher
save those that he teaches, and save himself.
Is a person born with
an immortal soul in themself, or do the saved person
put on immortality at the resurrection? THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
QUESTIONS OF ALL TIMES. It has more influence on our conception of our nature,
our view of life in this world, and life after death, the nature of God, than
any other question. YOUR WHOLE THEOLOGY (all that you believe) IS DETERMINED BY
WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT SOUL.
SUMMARY, THE DOCTRINE OF
UNCONDITIONAL IMMORTALITY
1.
Changes the nature of God, makes Him cruel and sadistic.
2.
Changes the hope set forth in the New Testament that there will be a
resurrection. It makes there be a soul in all that will never be dead to be
resurrected from the dead. At funeral services we are told the departed are not
dead, but souls that were in them are now in Heaven looking down on their loved
ones, and any who point out that the Bible says the dead are not in Heaven
before the resurrection are branded as being a part of a cult, often even by
those who believe the dead are now alive in AbrahamÕs bosom and will be there
unto the Resurrection, that they are not now in Heaven.
3.
Changes the resurrection of Christ, which gives us a hope of being resurrected,
by reducing the death and resurrection of Christ to His earthly human body
only; therefore, the resurrection of Christ must be the "first fruits" only of the
resurrection of an earthly bodies. Makes the immortal something that is in a
person that cannot be dead or resurrected be the only thing that will ever be
in Heaven, not a person, not you or me in Heaven.
4.
Changes the message we preach to the lost and their fate.
(a). Whether there is
a soul that is in the lost will have an endless life with torment.
(b). Or a Òsecond deathÓ for persons from which
there will never be a resurrection.
5.
Changes from Òthe wages of sinÓ being
death, to Òthe wages of sinÓ is
changed to endless life for a soul being tormented in Hell.
6.
Changes the nature of a person from mortal, to being a mortal being with an
immortal being in the mortal being. Two opposite natures at the same time is
not a possibility. But we are repeatedly told by many that the person is mortal
and the person will die, that only a soul that is in the mortal person is
immortal, and only that immortal soul will live forever.
7.
Changes the nature of the resurrection of Christ, whether He was dead and
raised by God, or only His earthly body was dead, and He just came back to it from
Heaven.
8.
Changes the nature of the resurrection from whether the dead are resurrected,
or a soul that is not dead come back to earth from Heaven or from somewhere. It
makes a real resurrection impossible.
9.
It makes the second coming of Christ pointless; all soul would
already be in Heaven, Hell,
or in AbrahamÕs bosom, but not on earth.
10. It
makes the judgment be passed; makes all the dead to have been judged at their
death.
11.
Changes many words, die, death, perish, destroyed, lost, end, sleep to mean the
opposite of the way they were used by those living when they were used, and the
opposite of the way the world now uses them.
12. Changes eternal life to eternal reward,
and changes eternal death (Òthe wages of
sinÓ) to eternal life being tormented by God.
Anything more different from the gospel
than the immortal soul pagan man made theology would be difficult to imagine.
It makes a second judgment at the coming of Christ of those who were already
judged and put in Hell at the moment of death be nothing but pure folly. If it
is not a total different gospel there could not be one, for not just some part
of it is different, but it is one hundred percent different, one hundred
percent pagan.
THE BELIEF IN AN IMMORTAL DEATHLESS SOUL
SATINÕS LIE ÒTHOU
SHALL NOT SURELY DIEÓ
IS THE FOUNDATION OF
1. Unconditional
Immortality is the foundation of much of philosophy of the Egyptians, the
Greeks, and today.
2. Unconditional
Immortality is the foundation of reincarnation–transmigration of souls to
other bodies after death.
3. Unconditional
Immortality is the foundation of most Eastern religions
4. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of the Roman Catholic and the Protestant immortal soul at birth.
5. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of the doctrine of a chamber inside of the earth that mostly in the
eighteenth and nineteenth century was changed to Hell by most Protestants.
6. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of purgatory.
7. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of Limbo.
8. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of Nether World.
9. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of worship of Mary and the reported sighting of her. She is now
sleeping just as all the saved are, and all will be asleep unto the
resurrection.
10. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of intercession of and worship of saints. All saints are asleep
unto the resurrection; they cannot hear or answer prayers of those that pray to
them.
11. Unconditional Immortality is the foundation
of the use of the crucifix, and other uses of the cross as an image in worship,
on building, in jewel, and of crossing yourself.
12. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of original Sin.
(a). Total Hereditary
depravity.
(b). Infant baptism. ÒBaptismal
regeneration,Ó the removal of original sin in infants.
13. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of the belief that Abraham's bosom is a real place that is not
Heaven or Hell where all saved deathless souls are now living unto the
resurrection.
14. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of communication with the spirits of the dead.
15. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of the "New Age" movement and channeling craze with
spirits of the dead. If there is no life after death before the resurrection,
there could be no communication with the dead; these communications are the
work of demons impersonating the dead.
16. Unconditional Immortality is the foundation
of near-death experiences or out-of-body experiences; it makes them believable too
many. If a person now has a deathless soul in them, which does not die when
the body dies, it makes it possible for some to believe a person can come back
and tell things they saw on the other side of death. Those who claim to have
died and gone to Heaven or Hell are claiming to have been resurrected from the
dead, that they have been in Heaven or Hell and then came back to earth. All
near-death experiences are totally dependent on the belief of the person;
Hindus, Muslims, and others also claim to have near-death experiences, but
their experiences are always what are taught by their beliefs; those who do not
believe in Heaven or Hell say they have near-death experiences, but they never
believe they go to Heaven or Hell. The truth, that a person is "asleep" from death unto the
resurrection, and has no knowledge in a grave (Ecclesiastes 9:10) makes
"after death experiences" impossible and unbelievable. A person who
is asleep unto the resurrection has no afterlife experiences to tell us. In all
the after death experiences I have read, no two are the same; no two saw the
same Heaven.
17. Unconditional Immortality is the
foundation of an evil, cruel, and sadistic God who made most of mankind
just so he could torment them.
18. Unconditional
Immortality is the foundation of Spiritualism, it makes modern Spiritualism possible. No
one being alive before the resurrection would totally destroy Spiritualism. The teaching, that there is a spirit
in a person that is conscious after the death of the person makes it possible
and even probable that spirits can and do return to earth and speak to us. This
has prepared the way for Spiritualism. Satan may be using this false teaching
to send his angels with lies to lead those who go to Spiritualists into his way
and keep them from the truth of God. If the truth, that all mankind are asleep
from death to the resurrection were believed, and not the pagan doctrine of an
immortal soul, then Spiritualism would not be possible. If Mary is asleep, then
the appearance of her ghost is the manifestations of a demon that makes many
believe a lie. Satan is using Spiritualism to make many believe his lie, "You shall not surely die."
CHARLES WELCH, "If a man would become satisfied of modern Spiritualism, he
must first be satisfied that he is an immortal being. The visitations and
manifestations of the spirit world are to convince you of the immortality of
the soul. The first, the greatest, and the grandest truth coming through modern
Spiritualist is the immortality of the soul. Here it
will be seen that Orthodoxy has nothing to say against these doctrines of
demons, but rather, in Pulpit, press, and song, this great lie is echoed and
enforced, coloring as it does the whole evangel. We give in our next quotation
a Resolution passed at an important Spiritualist Convention, which shows how
important a place this doctrine holds in their Creed:–ÔRESOLVED–That Spiritualist,
according to the modern acceptation of the term, embraces all those who believe
in the immortality of the soulÉBeyond this common faith, there is no doctrine
or creed necessarily incident to modern Spiritualism.Õ It must come as a great
shock to many godly Christians, who constantly pray for the Ônever dying soulsÕ
of men, to find themselves sharing a Ôcommon faithÕ
with the enemy of truth! Yet so it is. A spirit says of this doctrine, ÔWhen
once that is established, this one simple germ of knowledge will work out all
the rest.Õ The first lie of Satan was, ÔYe shall not surely die.Õ This was the
Ôsimple germ.Õ It will culminate in the fruition of the second lie, ÔYe shall
be as God.ÕÓ From ÒThe Immortality of the Soul and the Doctrine of Demons.Ó
ALL OF THE ABOVE TEACHINGS COMPLETELY DEPEND
UPON THERE BEING A DEATHLESS SOUL IN A PERSON THAT IS IMMORTAL AND
INDESTRUCTIBLE, WHICH IS OF PAGAN ORIGIN; UNCONDITIONAL IMMORALITY IS THE
PREMISE ON WHICH THEY ALL STAND OR FALL. All of then depend on there being a
soul that will be alive after the person that a soul had been in is dead; without
the doctrine that there is something in a person that is not subject to death
none of the above 18 things could not be true. The pagan doctrine of a
deathless unconditional immortality soul is the mother or foundation of more
false doctrines than any other teaching, and is the greatest deception, and
most harmful of all deceptions in the church. Endless torment of a soul
cannot be unless Plato's immortal soul is true, Mary could not be seen or she could
not make intercession if she is asleep and she will be asleep unto the
resurrection of all the dead, there could be no communication with souls of the
dead if the whole person is asleep. As
long as one believes this pagan doctrine, and reads it into the Bible that a
person is a mortal being that will die, but believe that there is a soul in
them that is immortal and it is deathless and only it will live forever makes
it virtually impossible to understand the Bible correctly. If one believes
the Greek pagan teaching that was believed by Socrates and Plato over Christ
can they truly say they are a believer? ÒThey
worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by menÓ (Matthew
15:9 New International Version).
Not
to take anything away from the power of Satan in the world, or his danger to us
(see 1 Peter 5:8, etc.), but by making him be an endless being, and the endless
ruler over Hell, Satan is being given a power he does not have may add to his
being worshiped by many. Some seem to think that to exist in torment with Satan
over them may be better than not to exist, and they worship the one who they
think will be over them; many do not realize that they have put Satan over God.
But, if they knew the truth, that SatanÕs end will be the same as their end,
and he will have no more power over them, he may not have the appeal of a being
to be worshiped. Satan has had many
victories, but his lie that mankind now has something in them that is already
immortal; therefore, there is no real death, and the invention of Hell maybe
his biggest victories. Many preach his lies!
A SAVED PERSON WILL HAVE A NEW BODY
AFTER THE RESURRECTION AND JUDGMENT
ÒSo also is the resurrection of the dead. It (the natural body that is in the image of
Adam) is sown a perishable BODY, it (the mortal body) is
raised an imperishable BODY; it (the mortal person) is sown in dishonor, It (the mortal body) is raised in glory; it (the mortal person) is sown in weakness, it (the mortal body) is raised in power; it (the mortal person) is sown a natural BODY, it (the
mortal body) is raised a spiritual BODY. If
there is a natural BODY, there is also a spiritual BODY. So also it is written, ÔThe first
man, Adam, became a living soul.Õ The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
Howbeit that is not first which is spiritual,
but that which is natural; then that
which is spiritual...and as WE have
borne the image of the earthly, WE shall also bear the image of the
heavenly...WE all shall not sleep,
but WE shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the
last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and WE shall be changed. For this
corruptible must put on incorruption,
and THIS MORTAL MUST PUT ON IMMORTALITYÓ (1 Corinthians 15:35-54).
It is this mortal person, the Ònatural BODYÓ that we now are that will
be Òraised a spiritual BODY.Ó The Òspiritual BODYÓ does not now exist and
will not exist unto the resurrection; the Òspiritual
BODYÓ is not an immaterial, bodiless something that is now in us that has
no body. The Ònatural BODYÓ that Òis sownÓ is not the Òspiritual BODYÓ that all the saved
persons will have after the resurrection. If the Òspiritual BODYÓ were an immaterial bodiless soul that is already in
us it would make all that Paul said above be total nonsense. ÒHowever,
the spiritual is not first, but the natural;Ó therefore, the Ònatural BODY,Ó and the Òspiritual BODYÓ does not exist
together, not both at the same time, yet we are told that the immortal soul
exist from the day of birth of the Ònatural
body,Ó or even before birth, and that a soul will exist in the person as
long as the Ònatural bodyÓ lives, and
we are told that a soul continues to live after the death of the person without
the resurrection, to live without the Ònatural
BODYÓ that it had been in, and live without the Òspiritual BODYÓ that the saved will put on at the resurrection.
Death reigns in the mortal body; when the mortal body puts on immortality at
the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:53) death will not reign in the immortal
body; death will have been Òswallowed up
in victoryÓ (1 Corinthians 15:54).
COULD IT BE SAID ANY CLEARER THAT
Any clearer that the Òspiritual BODYÓ is not a soul that is
now in us.
Any clearer that the Òspiritual BODYÓ does not now already exist
while the Ònatural BODY,Ó the person
is alive.
BEFORE THE RESURRECTION
NO ONE, NO PERSON, NO SOUL
NOW HAS A ÒSPIRITUAL
BODYÓ
ÒAND WITH WHAT KIND OF
BODY?Ó (1 Corinthians 15:35-54). Just as a seed
that is put in the ground does not have the body that will come out of the
ground, the body that will be resurrected will not be the body we now have, it is the mortal person that is put in the
ground, and the immortal person that will be raised from the ground; it is the saved
mortal person, not a soul, that will put on immortality at the resurrection.
IF
THERE WERE A SOUL
THAT
COULD NEVER BE DEAD
1. Souls that are not dead could not be put
in graves.
2. Souls that are not dead could not be
raised from graves, or from the dead. There could not be a resurrection.
The
Ònatural bodyÓ is the seed, a Òbare grainÓ of the incorruptible Òspiritual body,Ó that will be raised in
glory and power, The Òbare grainÓ is not the seed of a soul,
or the seed of a spirit that we now already have in us; those that believe
we now have a soul in us do not believe it is just a Òbare grainÓ of a soul. It is difficult for us to understand how the
body we now have, the Ònatural bodyÓ
will be the same body but ÒchangedÓ
to a Òspiritual body,Ó but God is
able to do it; ÒBut some one will say,
ÔHow are the dead raised and with what
manner of body do they comeÕÉyou sow not the body that shall beÉGod gives it a body even as it pleased HimÓ (1 Corinthians 15:35-49). ÒWho shall
fashion anew the BODY of our humiliation, that it (the body we now
have) may be conformed to the BODY of his gloryÓ (Philippians
3:21).
(a). ÒThe body of our humiliation,Ó is the mortal body we now have.
(b). The mortal body we now have that will be changed to Òbe conformed to the body of his glory.Ó
Not
an immortal soul changed, it will be us, saved persons, our mortal body that
will be changed to a new immortal body. The person that goes into a grave will
come forth, but just as the seed comes forth is in a different form, the person
that comes forth from a grave will be changed from a Ònatural BODYÓ to a Òspiritual
BODY.Ó It is us, our changed body, not a soul, not
a spirit that will be like Òthe BODY of
his glory.Ó PaulÕs question was, ÒHow are the DEAD RAISE,Ó not how are souls that are not dead
raised.
FRED P. THOMPSON, ÒIf the
body comes forth from the grave, restored/ transformed, the verdict against
death is sealed. (3) Body life is the only kind of life Paul can imagineÉ(4) It
is the body of flesh which is the Ôperishable natureÕ spoken of in v. 53.
Because nothing perishable is appropriate for the land of eternity, the body
must undergo that miraculous change into imperishability.Ó ÒWhat The Bible Says
About Heaven And Hell,Ó page 167, College Press 1983. Note,
it is the body that undergoes the change, not a deathless soul that cannot be
changed.
I KNOW OF NO ONE THAT BELIEVE
1. A
dead soul will be raised from the dead, will come out
of a grave.
2. Or
that believes a soul will be given any Òkind
of body,Ó or will ever have a
body.
3. Or
that a soul they believe in will ever be any more immortal than they believe a
soul now is. Most that believe there is a soul believe that a soul is now as
immortal as a soul will ever be, not that it will Òput on immortalityÓ at the resurrection.
4. Or that a soul is now just a seed to
what a soul will be after the resurrection, nothing is said about there being a
soul that will be changed, or fashion anew, and made into a much greater soul.
5. Or
that there are dead souls that will be resurrected out of graves.
IT IS THE RESURRECTION
THAT GIVES US HOPE OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
Immortality
will come at the resurrection. The
resurrection is a restoring to life the person, but with a spiritual body.
A COMPARISON BETWEEN
THE EARTHLY BODY WE NOW HAVE
AND THE SPIRITUAL BODY THAT THE SAVED WILL HAVE
ÒHow are the dead
raised: and with what manner of body do they comeÓ 1
Corinthians 15:35-44.
The
EARTHLY BODY IS----------The RESURRECTED BODY IS
(1)
Buried in corruption -> Raised
in incorruption
(2)
Buried in dishonor
-> Raised in glory
(3)
Buried in weakness
-> Raised in power
(4)
Buried a natural body -> Raised a spiritual body
You
sow a bare grain -> of the BODY that shall be 15:37
ÒAs WE have borne the image of the earthy, WE shall also bear the image of the
heavenlyÓ (1 Corinthians 15:49).
ÒThat what is mortal
may be swallowed up by lifeÓ (2 Corinthians 5:4).
ÒWho shall fashion anew the body of our humiliation, that it may be
conformed to the body of his gloryÓ (Philippians 3:21). Is there any
way God could have told us any clearer that it is us, the person that will be
in Heaven, not whatever a soul is believed to be?
1. Is a soul (psukee
– person) buried in corruption and raised with incorruption (1
Corinthians 15:42)?
Can you believe we now have
an immortal soul that
when we die this soul will be Òsown in
corruption and raised in incorruptionÓ? Or is this is speaking of
the resurrection of a saved person, not a soul that is believed not to be
subject to corruption and cannot be buried?
2. Is a soul (psukee
– person) buried in dishonor and raised in glory?
Can you believe we now have
an immortal soul that
when we die this soul will be Òsown in
dishonor and resurrected from the dead in gloryÓ (1 Corinthians 15:42)? Or
is this speaking of the burial and resurrection of a saved person?
3. Is a soul (psukee
– person) buried in weakness and raised in power?
Can you believe we now have
an immortal soul that
when we die this soul will be Òsown in
weakness and raised from the grave in powerÓ (1 Corinthians 15:43)? Or
is this speaking of the resurrection of a saved person?
4. Is a soul (psukee
– person) buried a natural body and raised a spiritual body (1
Corinthians 15:44)?
Can you believe we now have
an immortal soul that
is now a natural body that will die, be Òsown a natural body it is raised a spiritual
body?Ó Or is this speaking of
the burial and the resurrection of a saved person, not the burial and the
resurrection of a deathless something that some believes to be in a person?
None of the above says
anything about a deathless soul or a deathless spirit that has no substance,
that it is now immortal, and say nothing about a soul or a spirit is not
subject to corruption or death; all four
are speaking of a PERSON that can die, can be sown (buried), and be
resurrected; the PERSON that is corrupted in graves, but will be resurrected
incorruptible, the PERSON that will have glory and power, the PERSON that now
has a natural body that is now in the image of Adam that will be raised with a
spiritual body in the image of Christ.
A CHANGE OF THE NATURE OF
A PERSON
FROM IMAGE OF ADAM TO
IMAGE OF CHRIST
ÒGod gives
it a body even as it pleased himÓ 1 Corinthians 15:38.
EARTHLY BODY
| RESURRECTED BODY OF THOSE IN CHRIST
"As
WE have borne the image | WE
SHALL also bear the
Of
the earthy 1 Cor. 15:49 | image
of the heavenly" 1 Cor. 15:49
"Flesh
and blood cannot | WE
SHALL all be changed in a moment, in
inherit kingdom of God"15:50|
the twinkling of an eye, at last trump]
Buried a perishable body - Raised an imperishable body 1 Cor.
15:42
Buried a natural body - Raised a spiritual body 1 Cor. 15:44
Buried (sown) in dishonor - Raised in
glory 1 Corinthians 15:43
Buried (sown) in weakness - Raised in
power 1 Corinthians 15:43
The dead in Christ -
Raised incorruptible 1 Corinthians 15:52
Living saints
- Will be Changed in a moment 1 Cor. 15:52
"This
corruptible - must put on Incorruption"
1 Corinthians 15:53
"This
mortal -
must put on Immortality" 1
Corinthians 15:53
IMAGE OF ADAM
| IMAGE OF CHRIST
.
Body of humiliation |"Conformed to the body of his glory" Phil 3:21
Earthly tent
|"A house not made with
hands" 2 Cor. 5:1-10
Earthly image of Adam | Heavenly image of Christ 1
Corinthians 15:49
Adam a living soul | Christ a life giving
spirit 1 Corinthians 15:45
All have a body like Adam | Saints will have a body like
Christ 1 John 3:2
ÒIt is not yet made manifest what WE shall be. WE know that when He
appears, WE shall be like Him,
because WE shall see Him just as He is,Ó just as Christ is now (1 John 3:2), not as He was when He was in
the flesh and blood image of Adam. Also 1 Peter 5:4; 2
Corinthians 5:10.
According to Orthodox
Theology, if you say a bird is dead, the bird is dead, it has no life, but if
you say a person is dead, but something that was in the dead person is really
alive, just as alive as the bird and person is dead.
THE PERSON IS BURIED AND RAISED
If there were a
deathless soul it could not be dead, it could not buried, or be raised from the
dead. ÒHow are THE DEAD raised? And with what kind of body?Ó How are dead person raised, not living souls raised from
the dead? According to 1 Corinthians 15 WE,
not a soul, will have a body. ÒBodyÓ
or ÒbodiesÓ are mentioned eleven
times (15:35; 15:37; 15:38 - 2 times; 15:4 - 2 times; 15:44 - 4 times). The
first time in verse 35 asks the question what kind of body will WE have in the resurrection. That the
body that is put in the ground is not the body that will be resurrected is
illustrated by giving an example of planting a seed; the body that comes forth
is nothing like and is far greater than the body that was put into the ground,
but it will be a body, the resurrected body will be our body, a real body, not
a bodiless thin air nothing.
Faithful Christians live, die, and are BURIED with mortal bodies that are
in the image of Adam, Christians (not a pagan Dark Age souls) will be raised
with immortal bodies in the image of
Christ. ÒAs WE have born the image of the earthy, WE shall also bear the image of the heavenlyÓ (1 Corinthians
15:49). The pagan soul that many believe in, they do not believe it has ever
been in the image of Adam. Christ is speaking to person, not to souls said, ÒI go to prepare for YOU, and if I go and prepare a place for YOU, I will come again, and will receive YOU unto myself; that where I am, there YOU may be alsoÓ (John 14:2-3). WE, not souls, will have real bodies in
our glorified state in Heaven, but very different from the imperfect earthly
bodies that we now have that are unfit for Heaven.
(A) ÒIT
is sown a perishable body
IT is raised
an imperishable bodyÓ
1
Corinthians 15:42-44
The body we now have is buried and is perishable, it perishes. The resurrected body will be imperishable, but
it will be a body, not just an immaterial, invisible, no substance nothing that
was imperishable before Òit is raised an
imperishable bodyÓ at the resurrection.
The
ÒperishableÓ body that is in the
image of Adam that is buried. ÒCorruptionÓ King James Version. It is the personÕs body
that is perishable or corruptible that is put in a grave, not the Greek bodiless
soul that Plato believed in.
The ÒimperishableÓ or ÒincorruptibleÓ body that will be resurrected out of a grave will
be in the image of Christ. It is the person with a changed body that is
resurrected imperishable in the image of Christ, not PlatoÕs bodiless soul.
(B) ÒIT
is sown in dishonor
IT is raised
in gloryÓ
1
Corinthians 15:42-44
The
decaying body that is put in a grave has no honor, in the resurrection the
saints will be resurrected like Christ, ÒIt
has not appeared as yet what WE
shall be. WE know that, when He
appears, WE shall be like Him,
because WE shall see Him just as He
isÓ (1 John 3:2). ÒWho (Christ) will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His gloryÓ (Philippians
3:21), not an immortal soul that will be in glory before the resurrection, or
not be transformed (changed) at death, and we will not see Him and be like Him
at the moment of our death; if our bodies were changed to the image of Christ
at our death, it would make these passages be totally wrong.
(C) ÒIT
is sown in weakness
IT is raised
in powerÓ
1
Corinthians 15:42-45
The earthly body that is put
in a grave has no power, but it is a body that will be resurrected a body with
power, not a soul.
(D) ÒIT
is sown a natural body
IT is raised
a spiritual bodyÓ
1
Corinthians 15:42-45
The
Ònatural bodyÓ is the image of the
earthy Adam, the first man, the Òspiritual
bodyÓ with which the saints will be resurrected with is the image of the
second man from Heaven (1 Corinthians 15:42-49). There is (1) this earthly,
natural body that now is and (2) and the spiritual body that will be after the
resurrection, there is no kind of body
between death when it is Òsown a natural
body,Ó and the resurrection when it will be Òraised a spiritual body.Ó
Neither are there two kinds of bodies before death; there is not a Òspiritual bodyÓ before a person is Òraised a spiritual body,Ó at the second
coming of Christ. ÒNaturalÓ is
translated from psukikos, which is
derived from psukee; psukee is the
natural body we now have, not an immaterial, invisible, no substance something
that has no body, and that no one knows what this something with no body really
is, or do not know anything about what a Dark Age Raman Catholic soul is like.
It is this corruptible
mortal person that will put on incorruption and immortality, not a soul that
already is both incorruptible and immortal.
"This corruptible - must put on
Incorruption" (1 Corinthians 15:53).
"This mortal - - - - must put
on Immortality" (1
Corinthians 15:53).
If
we have a soul that is now immortal, how could this immortal soul be changed from
a mortal soul to a immortal soul?
1. ÒTHIS
MORTALÓ that will put on immortality is the earthly person that is now
in the image of Adam; even those that believe we now have an immortal soul do
not believe that a soul is now mortal in the image of Adam. It is the saved person that is now mortal that will put
on immortality, if there were a soul, it would already be immortal. This is
speaking of the saved, these in Christ at the resurrection, nothing is said in
this passage about the lost that will also be resurrected at the same time for
judgment and Òthe second death.Ó
2.
It is this mortal person that is to be changed to an immortal person, not a
soul that is already immortal changed from immortal to immortal. It is the mortal
person that is now in the image of Adam that will be changed to the immortal
image of Christ.
I know of no one that
believes the immortal soul they believe in is now in the image of Adam, but
this soul will Òbe changed, in a moment,
in the twinkling of an eye,Ó or no one that believes that an immortal soul
they say is now immortal is now Òthis
mortalÓ that shall be changed to immortal.
To change 1
Corinthians 15 from speaking about a person, and make it be speaking about a
deathless immortal soul or spirit makes it pure nonsense.
It
is the person that died that will be raised from the dead. If it were not the same person that died that was raised, it would not
be a resurrection of the dead. Anything that could happen to a soul that is
not dead could not be a resurrection of the dead. The ÒbodyÓ will be changed,
but it will be the same person; it will be ÒYOUÓ
in Heaven, not ÒIT.Ó ÒAnd just as WE have borne the image of the earthy, WE shall also bear the image of the
heavenlyÓ (1 Corinthians 15:49). It has become commonly said that if there
is no soul that is deathless, for God to make a new body and it have life would
be a new creation, not the same person that was put in a grave. I do not know
how I can now have the image of Adam, can be resurrected with the image of
Christ, and it still be me, but God has said the saved will be resurrected from
their graves in the image of the heavenly and I believe Him even if I do not
know how He can do it. To say, as many do, that if a soul is not alive that the
resurrection would be a new creation and not the same person that died (1) is
to disbelieve God when He said He will raise the dead persons from their graves;
(2) is to believe that a real resurrection is not possible; (3) is to say God
does not have the power to raise the dead if they are really dead. In a deep
sleep there is no thoughts, no knowledge, but when the person awakes it is the
same person that went to sleep. Wakening up from a sleep is not a new creation,
the resurrection is not a new creation of a new person; it will be the same
person that went to sleep that wakes up. After their death animals are never
said to be asleep in the Bible, they will not wake up,
they will not be resurrected. If you believe the Bible, you must believe that God both can and will
raise the dead that are asleep in their graves, not that God will make a
completely new creation.
1. It is
a person, not a soul that is in the image of Adam; it is the same person that
will be resurrected in the image of Christ, not a soul that is in the image of
Adam but that soul will be changed at the resurrection to the image of Christ
(1 Corinthians 15:49).
2. It is the corruptible
person that must put on (become) an incorruptible person (1 Corinthians 15:53).
3. It is the mortal person
that must become an immortal person (1 Corinthians 15:53).
4. This is speaking of a mortal person, not an immortal soul;
nothing is said about any kind of a soul in this passage. ÒAnd this mortal (this
mortal person) shall have put on
immortalityÓ (1 Corinthians 15:54). Those that believe there is immortal
soul in a person do not believe an immortal soul is ever Òmortal,Ó do not believe a soul that is already immortal can ever Òput on immortality.Ó
It is the person that
is now in the image of Adam that will come out of their graves in the image of
Christ, not as taught by Plato that an immaterial soul that has no substance that
was never in the image of Adam. If the person is resurrected an incorruptible
and immortal person, a spiritual being, and if there were an immortal spiritual
being already in a person, then there would be two immortal spiritual being,
(1) an immortal spiritual Òsoul,Ó (2) and an immortal spiritual person. Will
the two ever know each other anymore than the person can now know a soul that
he or she is told is in them? I know nothing about an Òimmaterial, invisibleÓ
(Vine, page 588) being that is nothing but Òmental thoughtsÓ (Merey, ÒDeath And The Afterlife,Ó page 79)
that I am told is in me; it has not contacted me or in any way let me know it
is in me; I know no more about ÒitÕ than a person that never heard about Òit;Ó
but I am told that I must believe to save whatever ÒitÓ is from Hell, not to save
ÒmeÓ from Òdeath.Ó
FRED P. THOMPSON, ÒNeither Paul nor any other main-stream Christian
theologian has been content with the idea of immortality without resurrection.
Some kind of body is essential to personality as we
know it. Resurrected, we shall not be naked but appropriately clothed, not phantoms or pure spirits but embodied
persons.Ó ÒWhat The Bible Says About Heaven And Hell,Ó page 168, College
Press, 1983.
A STRANGE
CHANGE
When I first became a
Christian in the fifties almost every sermon ended with an invention in which
the sinners were told to repent and be baptized to save a soul that is in them
from Hell. Today ÒsoulÓ is almost never used in preaching and it has been years
since I have heard anyone told to Òsave your soulÓ or God will forever torment
ÒitÓ in Hell.
ÒFor since by man came death, by man came also
the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall
all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ
the first fruits, then they that are
ChristÕs at his comingÓ (1 Corinthians 15:21-23). When many read this
passage they see both, (1) souls that cannot die, but these deathless souls die,
(2) and souls that are dead, but they are not dead, nevertheless they believe
souls that are not dead will be made alive by the resurrection. It is mortal
persons that dies and the same mortal persons that will be made alive by the
resurrection, not already alive deathless souls that will be made alive by the
resurrection.
"Behold, I tell
you a mystery: WE all shall not
sleep, but WE shall all be changed, in a
moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall
sound, and THE DEAD shall be raised incorruptible, and WE shall be changed" (1
Corinthians 15:51-52). It is both (1)
the saved person that is asleep, that is
dead and corrupted in a grave that will be incorruptible when the person is
raised from a grave, (2) and the saved person that will be living when Christ
comes that will be changed. ÒChangedÓ
means something will be changed, it is the mortal person that will be changed
to an immortal person, not an immortal soul, or not an immortal spirit that many
believe both are already immortal changed to an immortal soul or spirit. ÒAnd WE
shall be changed," not Òsouls or spirits shall be changed.Ó Why do those that say
they do not change the Bible change the ÒWEÓ
to ÒITÓ? It is the transformation of the person that
is in the image of Adam to the image of Christ, the survival of the person
saved from death, not a soul. It is
not a soul, whatever you believe a soul to be that will be raised from the
dead; it will be you changed from
mortal to immortal. It is you that
will always live in Heaven with Christ, or you
that will always be dead. That it is
only a soul, not you, that will be in Heaven is the doctrine of man. The
resurrection means the restoring the life of a person, not restoring life to
something that is now in you that
will leave you at your death.
"WE
all shall not sleep, but WE shall all be
changed, in a moment in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the
trumpet shall sound" (1 Corinthians 15:51-52). It is the
transformation of the flesh and blood body to a spiritual body; no person could
inherit the kingdom of God without the transformation from an earthly body to a
heavenly body. Those that are asleep and those that will be living are both changed
in the same moment at the sound of the trumpet; therefore, no one could have
already have been changed at the moment of death.
1. "And THE DEAD shall be raised incorruptible" (1 Corinthians 15:52).
2.
"And WE shall be
changed" (1 Corinthians
15:52). Not a soul or spirit changed. Most that believe there is a soul do not
believe it can be dead, or that it can be raised from the dead, or that a soul can
be changed.
3. "For this corruptible must put on incorruption" (1 Corinthians
15:53).
4.
"And this mortal must put on
immortality" (1 Corinthians 15:53). This mortal person will Òput on immortality,Ó not this already
immortal soul or spirit will Òput on
immortality.Ó YOU not IT
will put on immortality.
Nowhere is it said that there is a deathless
soul that will be resurrected from the dead, or that it will be a resurrected soul
in Heaven. The Bible always says it is the persons that will be resurrected
from their graves, and the mortal persons that will put on immortality, it is ÒyouÓ that is now and will die in the
image of Adam and will be resurrected in the image of Christ, it is ÒyouÓ that will be in Heaven.
If all the
saved are alive in Abraham's bosom,
who are the dead that shall be raised? If the dead are neither mortal
in the image of Adam, nor are they immortal in the image of Christ, then if
they are now living, what kind of being are they, what image do those have that
are in AbrahamÕs bosom? How can anyone deny that 1 Corinthians 15:53 is
speaking of persons being changed from mortal bodies to immortality bodies, not
of already immortal souls being changed to immortal souls, that would be no
change?
THIS
MORTAL PERSON
WILL
BECOME AN IMMORTAL PERSON.
NEW
INTERNATIONAL VERSION, 1 Corinthians 15:53, ÒFor
the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.Ó
NEW
AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE, ÒFor this perishable must put on the
imperishable, and this mortal must put
on immortality.Ó
AMERICAN
STANDARD VERSION, ÒFor this corruptible must put on
incorruption, and this mortal must put
on immortality.Ó
ENGLISH
STANDARD VERSION, ÒFor this perishable body must put on
the imperishable, and this mortal body
must put on immortality.Ó
NEW
LIVING TRANSLATION, ÒFor our dying bodies must be
transformed into bodies that will never die; our mortal bodies must be transformed into immortal bodies.Ó
KING
JAMES VERSION, ÒFor this corruptible must
put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.Ó
INTERNATIONAL
STANDARD VERSION, ÒFor what is decaying must be clothed with what
cannot decay, and what is dying must be
clothed with what cannot die.Ó
DARBY
BIBLE TRANSLATION, ÒFor this corruptible
must needs put on incorruptibility, and
this mortal put on immortality.Ó
ENGLISH
REVISED VERSION, ÒFor this corruptible
must put on incorruption, and this
mortal must put on immortality.Ó
WEYMONTH
NEW TESTAMENT, ÒFor so it must be: this
perishable nature must clothe itself with what is imperishable,
and this mortality must clothe itself
with immortality.Ó
Those that believe we
now have souls in us that are immortal do not believe that souls have ever been
mortal or ever will be mortal; therefore, souls that are not mortal cannot ever
Òput on immortality.Ó
The
body of a caterpillar is nothing like the body of the butterfly it changes
into, but it is still the same insect; the body of a mortal person is nothing
like the immortal body the person will change into, but it will still be the
same person. You will still be you when you are in Heaven, not whatever an ÒitÓ
is believed to be.
The two "all's"
"We all
shall be changed." Both all
those who are asleep in Christ, and all
those who are alive at the second coming will both be changed. The immortal soul doctrine says, "None of us
shall sleep for that would be Ôsoul sleeping.Õ" The Bible says it is the
whole person that sleeps unto the resurrection, not an immaterial soul that
sleeps; it says nothing, not one thing about a soul that is sleeping, or noting
about a soul that is awake.
In
1 Corinthians 15:50-53 Paul said nothing about souls or about spirits that
needs no resurrection or change; he is speaking of the resurrection of the dead
persons in Christ being changed from earthly bodies to spiritual bodies.
"For in the
resurrection they (persons,
not souls)...are as the angels in Heaven"
(Matthew 22:30). Angels are not in the image of Adam and have never been in his
image.
"And as WE have borne the image of the earthy (Adam), WE
shall also bear the image of the heavenly (Christ)" (1 Corinthians
15:49).
ÒBeloved, WE are now children of God, and it is not yet made manifest what WE shall be.
WE know that, if he shall be
manifested, WE shall be like him;
for WE shall see him even as he isÓ (1 John
3:2).
"In my Father's
house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told YOU; for I go to prepare a place for YOU. And if I go and prepare a place
for YOU, I come again, and will
receive YOU unto myself that where I
am, there YOU may be also" (John
14:2-3). Christ was speaking to people, not to spirits; He will come to receive
them at His second coming.
ÒThe dead in Christ shall rise first; then WE that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be
caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall WE ever be with the LordÓ (1 Thessalonians 3:16-17). Dead
persons will rise from the dead, those that believe there is a soul say a soul
can never be dead, never in a grave, can never rise from a grave.
"For OUR citizenship is in heaven; whence
also WE wait for a Savior, the Lord
Jesus Christ: who shall FASHION ANEW the
body of our humiliation, that it may BE CONFORMED to the body of his gloryÓ
(Philippians 3:20-21 American Standard Version). "CHANGE"
King James Version. "TRANSFORM"
New American Standard Version.
We
are told that our body will be
changed, fashion anew, that it will be us transformed, not an immortal soul Òchanged.Ó
"The body of our humiliation" is not an "immaterial,
invisible, no substance" soul that will be remade ("fashion anew") into
another "immaterial, invisible, no substance" soul, but it will be us
changed from a body that is suitable for life on this earth to a body that will
be suitable for life in Heaven. It is
our earthly ÒbodyÓ that will be
changed, not an immaterial something in us that we are told it is now just as
immortal as it will be in Heaven, and it cannot ever be changed. Those who
believe a person now has an immortal immaterial soul now living in them believe
this invisible something in them is already "conformed
to the body of His glory," they do not believe that it is this earthly
body--person that will be changed to the image of Christ at His coming. Just as
we now have the right bodies for life on this earth, our bodies will be changed
to the right bodies for life in Heaven.
Some
believe the dead in Christ will be, "Raised with an earthly body and soon
after the resurrection the earthly body will then be changed to a spiritual
body."
Others believe it will be, ÒRaised an earthly body, and restored to be like the
earthly body of Adam before he sinned, with a body that will live on a restored
earth.Ó Both are adding to and changing what the Bible says, ÒRaised a spiritual bodyÓ (1 Corinthians 15:44), not resurrected with an earthly
body and then changed to a spiritual body, the saved will have spiritual bodies
when they comes out of their graves.
The image of Christ is
not just a glorified earthly image of Adam. The body made for this earth
that is put in the ground will be raised from the ground a spiritual body
suitable for life in Heaven. There is now no way we can know anything about
what a Òspiritual bodyÓ will be like,
but we shall know at the coming of Christ. It is not just a glorified natural
earthly body, not a glorified image of Adam, our resurrected body will be in the
image of Christ.
THE IMMORTAL SOUL DOCTRINE SAYS NOT SO
1.
The immortality doctrine says, ÒWhile the person is living, a immortal soul is
just as immortal as it will ever be; that a immaterial invisible no substance
soul that will be in Heaven exist now inside of you; that a soul will not be
changed after the death of the person a soul is imprisoned in.Ó
2.
The immortality doctrine says, ÒA soul will be alive in Heaven from the moment the
person it was in is dead.Ó If they were right an immortal soul that is now in a
person can never be dead; therefore, a soul cannot be raised from the dead. Who
is wrong, Paul or today's theology?
IMAGE OF ADAM
VERSUS
IMAGE OF CHRIST
We
are now a living soul in the image of Adam. We will be raised in the image of
Christ (1 Corinthians 15:45-49). According
to the Bible a "living soul,"
is the physical body in the image of Adam that we now have (Genesis 2:7; 1
Corinthians 15:44-45), a Òliving soulÓ that is in the image of
Adam is not the "spiritual body" that will be in the image of
Christ (1 Corinthians 15:44). We
will be the same persons we now are, but our bodies will be changed from the
image of Adam to the image of Christ, from earthly bodies to spiritual bodies.
All of us, our whole person, will be in Heaven; not just some thin air,
immaterial, invisible something that has no body that we would not know it is
in us if we were not told it is there.
(a). ÒAnd as WE have borne the image of the earthly.Ó
(b),
ÒWE shall also bear the image of the
heavenlyÓ (1 Corinthians 15:49).
(c). ÒWE,Ó not an immortal
soul changed from the mortal image of Adam to the immortal image of Christ.
ÒIf there is a natural (psuchikos–soulish) body there is also a spiritual bodyÓ (1
Corinthians 15:44-45). Paul is quoting Genesis 2:7, Adam, the first man, became
a living being (psuche), not Adam had a pagan immaterial deathless soul put in
him.
THE NATURAL (PSUCHIKOS–SOULISH) BODY
The natural soulish body is now a living
being that is in the Òimage of the
earthyÓ (Adam) (1 Corinthians 15:47), a living being that is Òflesh and bloodÓ (1 Corinthians 15:50).
When God made the earth He give fish bodies that are appropriate to live in
water, and birds bodies that are appropriate to fly. He gives Adam a body that
was appropriate for life on this earth, a body of flesh and blood. In Heaven we
will need to have a body suitable for life in Heaven? Flesh and blood cannot
inherit the kingdom of God, but the earthly body (psuchikos–soulish) in the image of Adam both before and
after he sinned is flesh and blood. In the resurrection the saved persons will
be like angels who are in Heaven (Matthew 22:30). Is there anyone who believes
angels have earthly bodies (psuchikos–soulish) of flesh and blood in the image of Adam? After the resurrection
Christians will have bodies in the image of Christ, not earthly bodies
(psuchikos–soulish) in the
image of Adam (1 Corinthians 15:50).
WHERE WILL THE SAVED BE
AFTER THE RESURRECTION?
ON EARTH? OR IN HEAVEN?
If, as some teach the kingdom of Heaven is to be on this earth, (many of
the Premillennialists that are in many of the Protestant churches), then it
would not be true that Òflesh and bloodÓ
bodies that are in the image of Adam could not inherit it (1 Corinthians
15:50). ÒThat which is born of the flesh
is fleshÓ (John 3:6). ÒIt is sown a natural body.Ó It is the
body of Òflesh and bloodÓ that is put
in a grave; Òit is raised a spiritual
bodyÓ (1 Corinthians 15:44); this passage is not complicated, the body is
put in the ground is a natural (psuchikos–soulish) body, and the body that will come out of
the ground will be a spiritual body. The spiritual body will not be just a
glorified earthly body.
How could it be said
any more clearly that this earthly body will not be an earthly body when it is
raised, or that we do not now have the same body that we will have after the
resurrection? (1) Or that it is not an inter immortal
soul, which is now existing in us, which needs no change, which will never be
deadÕ any clearly that it is not an undead soul that will be resurrected from
the undead. (2) Nor any more clearly that we are now a "mortal"
person, but we will be raised an "immortal" person?
"But now has
Christ been raised from the dead,
the first fruit of them that ARE ASLEEP.
For since by man came death, by man
came also the resurrection of the dead.
For in Adam all die, so also in
Christ shall all be made alive.
But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then they that are Christ's
at his coming" (1 Corinthians 15:20-23). The term "dead" or "die"
means the same every time it is used in this passage. When Adam sinned he lost
the right to the tree of life for himself and all that came after him;
therefore, all die. It is the person that dies, and the person that will be
made alive by Christ at the resurrection.
If
there were undead souls why would they hope for a resurrection of the mortal
earthly body, and what good would it be? "In
a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" (1 Corinthians 15:52), what
would be the reason for raising the natural body for such a short time? Will
the deathless ÒsoulÓ come back from Heaven to put the earthly body back on,
only to put it off ("Be
changed") only for a moment all before the judgment? See 1 Corinthians
15:50; 1 Thessalonians 5:15-17; Philippians 3:21. Then it would have the
earthly body resurrected only for the "twinkling
of an eye" (1 Corinthians 15:52). If this deathless soul were living
in Heaven or Hell, the resurrection of the body for only a moment is all there
could be to the resurrection, why have it. The only thing that many believe
will be in Heaven or Hell, the immaterial, invisible soul, would be as alive as
it will ever be; many think is it already alive in Heaven, Hell, or AbrahamÕs
bosom and it will always be alive without the resurrection.
WHAT KIND OF BODY
WILL WE HAVE FOR ETERNITY?
When we are caught up to meet Christ in the air, will He bring us back
to earth, and have His kingdom on earth where we will have an earthly bodies,
or will we be caught up from earth to be with Him in Heaven and have spiritual
bodies? If you believe on earth, earthly bodies is a must, if you believe that
the saved will be in Heaven, that the saved will be resurrected from their
graves with bodies in the image of Christ, it cannot be a body in the image of
Adam that will be resurrected. Where we
will be for eternity will determine what kind of bodies we will have. The Bible
clearly says Heaven is where the saved persons will be.
NOT ONE KIND OF BODY
LIVING IN ANOTHER KIND OF BODY
1 Corinthians
15:42 is a simple and undeniable statement that says
that no one dose not now have incorruption and immortality, and no one will not
have unto the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:54). No one knows anything about
what our spiritual body will be like, but it is not something we now have
inside this body of flesh just waiting to get out of us at our death. Those
that are in Christ will be resurrected with a body, not be just a thin air
nothing, or not some kind of ghost; the resurrected body will have substance of
some kind, but not any kind of earthly substance, not flesh (1 John 3:2). And
not something that will fit within our body and not be seen. We are not a body made of substance with a
living being inside of us that has no kind of substance. Likewise, Heaven
is a place with substance, most certainly far greater substance than this earth;
Heaven is not just a cloud in the sky. This world and universe are so
complicated and large that there is much on this earth that man does not yet
know, not even the size of this creation with itÕs many galaxies. My opinion is
that the universe is small and insignificance in both size and splendor when
compared to Heaven, and this body is an insignificance seed, an acorn compared
to a large oak tree (1 Corinthians 15:35-39). Seeds are unlike the trees yet
the same identity is in them; we cannot know what the characteristics of the
spiritual body will be by looking at our physical body. If there were a Hell, will
the lost in Hell have the same great new and splendid spiritual body that will
be in the image of Christ that the saved in Heaven will have? If not, what kind
of body do you believe the lost in Hell will have?
We cannot
see God's greatest work, Heaven and spiritual beings, or know anything about
what they are like; therefore, this universe shows us only a small part of the
power of God. We each do different things in a day, not all the same things, or
all do not think the same thoughts. Today we do not do the same thing that we
did the day before. While there may not be days as we know them, Heaven will
not be an eternity with everyone doing and thinking the same thing, or all
seeing the same thing with never any change. Heaven will not be just a
glorified earth, but each person will be the same individual as we now are, not
just carbon copies of each other. Heaven will be great far beyond this earth or
anything that can come into our minds now, but many act in such a way that
shows going there is not the most important thing to them, and taking others to
it is even less important. What Heaven is like that we do not know would fill
many books.
Heaven is described in positively ways
Things that will be in Heaven, the throne of God, angles, many
mansions etc. But what we know about what Heaven is really like, nothing about
what the throne of God is like. The Bible is silent about what kind of place
Heaven is literally like, just as it is silent on what a Òspiritual bodyÓ that we will have in Heaven will be like. We know
that Heaven is where Christ has gone to prepare a place for us, but nothing
about what Heaven or the place He will have prepared will be like when we get
there; what we do know about what the many mansions are like would not take up
one line in a book; we know that the mansions will not have kitchens, bed rooms,
or bath room, not a mansion made for the needs of a persons in the image of
Adam now has. Nothing about what kind of bodies the angles have, but that they
look like a person with wings is Roman Catholic Dark Age teaching.
Heaven is described in negatively ways
We are told some things
that will not be in Heaven. (1) No tears, no death,
no mourning, or crying, or pain ( Revelation 21:4), (2) no curse (Revelation 22:3), (3) no night (Revelation 22:5), no sin, no evil.
Heaven is described figuratively
A
metaphor of a city with streets of gold that shows us the beauty and the
richness of Heaven, not that Heaven will literally have street of gold.
NO
SUBSTANCE THEN NO PLACE
NO
SUBSTANCE THEN NO BODY
This earth and an
earthly body both have substance; without substance there would be no earth and
no body. A spiritual body has substance; without substance there would be no
spiritual body. Heaven is a place, a place must have some kind of substance, or
there would be no place. If Heaven is not a real place with substance it could
have no beauty; the symbolism showing itÕs perfection and beauty would have no
meaning. Christ could not have gone to a place to prepare a place for us in a
place that does not exist.
Many believe Revelation
21 is a vision of the church before the second coming, a vision of the perfect
bride of Christ on earth, or if, as others believe it is a vision of Heaven. If
it is a vision of Heaven, it is a vision of the utterly magnificent and
perfection of Heaven, but nothing about what is really there, or nothing about
what Heaven will really look like. We are not to
think that Heaven will literally have streets of pure gold that are transparent
as glass, or walls of precious stones. Heaven will be composed of spiritual
substance for more spectacular than any earthly substance, even more
spectacular than gold.
B.
REEVES, "I do not know what all we will be doing in heaven, but I do know
we will not be dormant and inactive." Guardian of Truth,
page 8, 1996.
We
now have a "natural body,"
and after the resurrection the saved will have a "spiritual body." Do evil spirits have a body? If God,
angels and evil spirits have no substance of any kind, if they are nothing but
thoughts with no body, there cannot be a "spiritual body" (1
Corinthians 15:44). Christ said Òwe,Ó not Òit,Ó will be Òas
angelsÓ in the resurrection, but we
are not now Òas angelsÓ (Matthew
22:30); does anyone believe an angel will fit inside of our earthy body and not
be seen, and without being told we could not even know that an angel or a soul is
in us? That we can now know only of material substances of this earth does not
mean there are no spiritual substances. If there were not, there could be no
Heaven (Heaven is not just thoughts), and there could not be spiritual bodies.
Just as this earth is a real place made up of real substance, Heaven is a real
place made up of real substance, and spiritual being are real being. We are not
now a spirit as the angels and demons are, and will not be unto the
resurrection.
Can you imagine such a thing as people standing before God clothed with
white robes and praising God, but they have no body under the white robes? It
is inconceivable. A thin air nothing cannot wear a robe; if Robert Peterson was
right, there could not be white robes for there will be nothing but thoughts to
wear white robes, robes that could exist only in their thoughts. If this
earthly body "the body of our
humiliation" that shall be
fashioned anew "that it may be
conformed to the body of his glory" shall be a thin air ghost with no
body, then it would make Christ also be a thin air nothing. How can nothing
have "glory"? How can thin
air nothing be like anything "conformed"
("fashioned" King James
Version)? There would be nothing to "conform"
to anything.
"What we will be has not yet been revealed,
what we do know is this: when He is
revealed, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is" (1 John 3:2, New Revised Standard Version). I do not
know how God made this world out of nothing, but He said in His word that He
did and I believe Him. I do not know how God can raise me with a spiritual body
without this earthly body and it shall still be me,
but His word says He will, and I believe He can and will.
Summary - The resurrection will be from the dead, not from life. The
resurrection shows we are now mortal, and we will die, and we will be dead,
that we are not immortal before the resurrection. The resurrection will be a
bringing back to life, a waking up the persons that are asleep in Christ.
"BUT EACH IN HIS OWN ORDER" 1
Corinthians 15:23-38
(1) "Christ the
first-fruits." (2) "Then they that are Christ's at His coming."
Those that
believe a soul is the only thing that will live after the death of the person must
change the order of being raised from the dead.
(a). Must change the dead in the Old
Testament to have been raised at their
death, before Christ and without His death and resurrection. Therefore, Christ was not the Òfirst–fruits.Ó
(b). Must change, "Then they that are
Christ's at His coming," changed
from a dead person to a soul that had been in the dead person that goes to
Heaven before the coming of Christ, and Paul is made to be wrong both times.
(1) Wrong when he said Christ was the Òfirst
fruits,Ó (2) and wrong when he said, "They that are Christ's at His coming." Do you believe man or God?
Guardian of Truth, page 254, 1994 said in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 Paul
deals with one-half of the resurrection; he is speaking only of those in
Christ; in this passage Paul says nothing about those not in Christ. This is
also true of most of 1 Corinthians 15 "They
that are Christ's at His coming" 15:23. The lost will not be "raised in glory" 15:43, not in
"power" 15:43, or not in "the image of the heavenly" (Christ)
15:49. Can you find one thing said about
the body of the lost after the judgment? What will it be like?
1. Will
the body of the lost be in the image of Christ if there were a Hell?
2. Will
the body of the lost still be in the image of Adam if they were in Hell?
3. Will
God give the lost a spiritual immortal body only so He can torment them
forever?
The doctrine of endless torment makes the Bible need to be
rewrote.
1. "Wages is sin is death"
(Romans 6:23) must be rewritten to be, "Wages of sin is an endless life of
being tormented by God."
2. "You shall surely die"
(Genesis 2:16-17) must be rewritten to be, "You shall surely suffer
endless life in Hell being tormented by God."
3. "Through one man sin entered into the
world, and death through sin" (Romans 5:12) must be rewritten to be,
"Through one man sin entered into the world, and endless life in Hell
through sin."
4. "For God so loved the world, that
whosoever believes on him should not perish" (John 3:16) must be
rewrote to be, "For God so loved the world, that whosoever believes on him
should not be tormented in Hell."
THE BIBLE TEACHES ------------- BUT
MAN TEACHES
We put on immortality at the
|Souls are immortal from birth
Judgment 1 Corinthians 15:53
|
We "seek" immortality Rom 2:7 |
.
Wages of sin is death Rom 6:23|Human soul can never die
The end of the lost is
to be |Lost will be burned,
burned Hebrews 6:8
|but will have no "end"
The word Hell, or the idea of |Hell is taught as though it is
Hell is not in Bible
|on most every page of the Bible
"Raise up even
from the dead" |Living souls to be brought back from
Hebrews 11:19
|somewhere, not raised from death
The evil shall perish, |The evil can never perish,
Shall be destroyed
|or be
destroyed, or die
Death to be abolished
|Death is "separated from God"
1 Corinthians 15:26 and 15:55 |and can never be
abolished
Lost will be devoured Heb 10:2|The lost
can never be devoured or
Consumed Hebrews 12:29 |consumed,
they must burn forever
Christ died (give His life) |His soul did not die: only
for our sins
|His human body was dead
Christ came to give us life |All souls are eternal from birth
John 10:10; 10:28
|(have life and immortality) there-
"Eternal life" John 17:2 |fore already
have "eternal life"
God is everywhere
|God is not everywhere (not if
|death is separation from God)
God is just and loving |This teaching makes God
|unjust, sadistic, cruel, evil
First the natural (now) |We were born with a natural
Then that which is
spiritual" |body with a spiritual body
(after the resurrection) |inside the natural body
A day of wrath and judgment |A Day of Judgment but an
(same day) Romans 2:5ff |eternity of wrath
Nothing about God tormenting
|Both are taught as if they
anyone or wrath of God on the |were gospel
facts
lost after Judgment
Day |
.
The resurrection is unto life |The deadless
souls are now living in
John 5:29 And is "from the
|Heaven or Hell - have life and rewarded
dead" Romans 1:4; Acts 23:6 |or punished without the
resurrection
Christ said "I give
unto them |He gives eternal (immortal) life
eternal life" John 10:18 |to all souls at
birth
Earthly body is but a bare |We
now have the full-grown
seed of spiritual body which |spiritual body, a soul that is
we will have after Judgment |now in us before death and the
Day 1 Corinthians 15:35-49 |judgment, not just a seed
of it
Judgment and punishment are |All are judged good or bad at
death
at the second coming of Christ|and punished/rewarded at that time
"They are worthy of death" |But souls cannot die and God
Romans 1:32
|cannot kill them
"For there is no
work, nor
|"For there is work, and
device nor knowledge, nor |device, and
knowledge, and
wisdom, in Sheol, whither |wisdom, in Sheol
whither a
you go" Ecclesiastes l9:10 |soul goes
.
"Soul that sins,
it
|A soul is immortal,
shall die" Ezekiel 23:4* |therefore, it
cannot die *This is a
person being put to death under the law, but many almost always apply
it to a soul dying at the judgment, even while they are teaching
deathless soul that cannot die. See Hebrews 10:28.
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GOD
--------------------- versus --- THEOLOGY
|
God said "destruction" |God meant
"torment" |
God said "death"
|God meant "separation" |
God did not say man has an
|Plato and theology says |
immortal soul from birth |and teaches it for Him |
Nothing is said about wrath |Some know
and teach it will|
after the Judgment Day |last for
eternity in hell |
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NOT FLESH OR SPIRIT! - WHAT IS THIS THIRD KIND OF BODY BEFORE
THE RESURRECTION?
NOT EARTH OR HEAVEN! - WHERE IS THIS THIRD KIND OF PLACE
WHERE THOSE WHO ARE NOT ASLEEP ARE NOW IN?
BEFORE DEATH | AFTER DEATH |AFTER SECOND COMING
Natural Body | What body? |Spiritual Body 1 Cor. 15:44ff
Image of Earthly| Who's image? |Image of Heavenly 1 Cor. 15:49
Corruption | Neither
body |Incorruption
1 Cor. 15:42-43
Dishonor | Neither
body |Glory 1
Corinthians 15:43
Weakness | Neither body |Power 1 Corinthians
15:43
Mortal
|A person changed to |Immortality 1 Cor. 15:54
By man (Adam) | (Asleep
in Christ) |By man (Christ)
Death
| 1 Corinthians 15:21|Resurrection of the dead
Die in Adam
| Alive Before Being |In Christ MADE ALIVE
1 Cor. 15:22 | "Made Alive" |at His coming
"Unto Death" | ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? |"Crown of Life" Rev. 2:10
"Once to Die" | The Silence of God |"After this comes
| But Many Speak |judgment"
Hebrews 9:27
"This world" | The Thunderous |"That
which is to come"
Ephesians 1:2
| Silence of God |
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UNCONDITIONAL IMMORTALITY
MAKES 1 CORINTHIANS 15 IMPOSSIBLE
By teaching that we
are now immortal and now have incorruption from birth. We cannot put on that
which we now have on. If we now have an immortal "immaterial, invisible
part of man," (W. E. Vine) which cannot die, then Paul's argument in 1
Corinthians 15 to prove there is a resurrection is destroyed. If the
Corinthians that had died had a soul in them that could not die, that a soul had
not perished, and could not perish; if a soul was alive in Heaven it could not
be resurrected from the dead, there could not be a resurrection and 1
Corinthians 15 is nothing but pure footlessness.
UNCONDITIONAL
IMMORTALITY
MAKES PAUL'S
"CHANGED" IMPOSSIBLE
1 Corinthians 15:51,
If there is now an immortal incorruptible soul in a person, then that immortal
soul could not be "changed" from mortal to immortal, it could not "put on immorality" at the
resurrection. It is "us" not just something
that is in "us" that will come forth from a grave "changed." No one dose not now
have immortality before the resurrection. Paul says, "This mortal must put on
immortality" (1 Corinthians 15:53). "This mortal," this
mortal saved person is what will put on immortality, not a soul that is already
immortal; christians
will be "changed" at the
resurrection.
UNCONDITIONAL
IMMORTALITY
MAKES TREE
OF LIFE NOT NEEDED
Genesis 3:22-24, If a
person now has an immortal ÒsoulÓ in them, that soul could not die; that soul
will live forever somewhere, on earth or wherever. A soul leaving the person it
is in and moving from earth too wherever; and having more joy, more power, more
blessing, etc., when it gets there than it had while it was in our body would
not be a death. If a soul were immortal it would always live for it would already
be immortal and cannot die even if it did not have the tree of life
UNCONDITIONAL
IMMORTALITY
MAKES THE
BIBLE CONTRADICT THE BIBLE
A soul that
cannot die versus death, perish,
destroy, lost, end. If Òthe wages of sin
is death,Ó there cannot be an endless life of torment. By misusing some
scriptures, those who teach there is a soul in a person that can never die
makes the Bible contradict itself.
UNCONDITIONAL
IMMORTALITY
IT IS A
DELUSION 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
"And with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive
the love of the truth so as to be saved. And for this reason God will send upon
them a deluding influence so that they might believe what is false, in order
that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth." A delusion
can be any doctrine of man that is not the truth. How big a lie and how many lies can you believe and still say you
believe Christ? Where do you draw the line on how much error you can
believe? Some believe there is no line, and God will accept anything as
worship. Some believe God will accept worship only if it is by faith, which
comes from hearing His word (Romans 10:17; 14:23).
(a). Many do not
believe Pagan worship is acceptable to God.
(b). Many do not
believe worshiping the Pope, or a saint is acceptable to God.
(c). Many do not
believe infant baptism and sprinkling are acceptable to God.
(d). Many do not
believe having many wives is acceptable to God.
(e). Many do not
believe the error that there is an immortal soul that is in a person at birth,
which is the foundation of many other errors and it is used to make the
doctrine of Hell to be acceptable to God. The doctrine of Hell is based entirely
on the doctrine of there being an immortal soul that can never be dead.
Worshiping after the doctrines and precepts of men is not acceptable to
God (Matthew 15:9). Not in the time of Christ and not today. If something is
not clearly taught in the Bible, you cannot say that something is of faith that
comes by hearing (Romans 10:17; 2 Corinthians 5:7). The truth shall make you
free (John 8:32). Can anyone who believes any of Satan's lies over God's word
be made free by the truth? What you
believe and teach can be a delusion, and can be the difference in whether you
live or die at the judgment if you make God more sadistic and evil than Satan.
Summary - Unconditional
immortality reduces God and all spirit beings to being nothing but
"mind," to being nothing but mental thoughts with no body, no
substance, just thin air nothing. Although most who believed unconditional
immortality does not realize it makes God, angels, and mankind after the
judgment to be nothing more than mental thoughts, but some have realized what
it does to God and men. Robert Morey in "Death and The Afterlife," on
page 79 says from the meaning of rephaim, when the body dies, a person enters a
new kind of existence and exists as a spirit, as angels, and other spirits, that
they are nothing but thoughts. If that were true then both men and angels would
be only energy beings, and they would be composed only of mind or mental
energy, and be capable of supradimensional activity
as thought and speech without any kind of body. Although he did not mention
God, he has reduced God to being nothing more than thoughts, an "energy
being." According to him both God and a soul he believes to now be in a
person has no substance of any kind, they are only a bodiless mental energy
being.
RON
HALBROOK said God is an immortal spirit, without a body, Florida College Annual
Lectures, page 117, 1986.
W.
E. Vine says a soul is an "Immaterial,
invisible part of man," Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary Of Old
And New Testament Words, page 593.
According to them Heaven can
exist only in the mind of God; it cannot be a real place if spirits are nothing
more than thoughts with no substance; could a soul or a spirit be any more real
than a dream is, for a soul would have no more actual existence, and no more
substance than a dream. Not only is this
doctrine the Pagan doctrine from which it came that says we now have an
immaterial soul in us that has no body or substance, but also it makes God be
the same, makes God be nothing but thoughts. Most who believe there is a soul
in a person that is now immortal have not come to the realization of where this
belief takes them. The concept of a real resurrection and a deathless soul that is only thoughts are completely
incompatible, just as incompatible as the resurrection of a ÒsoulÓ that is now
as alive as it will ever be; therefore, it would be as alive before itÕs
resurrection as it will be after itÕs resurrection. ÒAnd will raise up US
through his powerÓ (1 Corinthians 6:14), it is ÒusÓ that will be raised up, not Òit.Ó
If you remain a
conscious being after your body dies, have you really died? Can you be
resurrected if you are not dead? Anything that is not taught in the Bible is
not a Bible doctrine. Faith comes by hearing God's word. Can anyone who
believes something not taught in the Bible truly say he or she has faith?
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Table of Contents
Chapter 1: ÒThe nature of man–what is man?Ó
Chapter 2: ÒLife or Death
Chapter 3: ÒThe great doctrines of the BibleÓ
Chapter 4: ÒFrom where came Hell, from man or God?Ó
1. Unquenchable fire, weeping,
gnashing of teeth
2. Old Testament history of Gehanna
3. Gehenna used by Christ on four
occasions
4. The vanishing Hell
5. Thirty-one plus version of Hell
Three Roman Catholic versions of Hell
Nineteen plus Protestant versions of Hell
Nine other versions of Hell
Chapter 5: Sheol, Hades,
and Tartarus
Chapter 6: The thirty-one Hell passages
Chapter 7: A strange and unexplainable silence of the Old
Testament on punishment and life after death, life, death, torment,
destruction, destroy, perish, die, and end
Chapter 8: Figurative language, metaphors, and symbolical
passage
Part one, The rich man
Part two, The symbolic pictures in
Revelation
Part three, The forever and ever of the
King James Version
Chapter 9: Universalist, The "age lasting" Hell
Chapter 10: The results of attributing evil Pagan teachings to
God
Chapter 11: Historical proof of the changing
of the teaching of the Bible
Chapter 12: IsraelÕs destruction, scripture about
the destruction of Israel that are misapplied to Hell
1. IsraelÕs weeping, gnashing of teeth
2. Outer darkness
3. Matthew 24, Preterits Eschatology, Realized Eschatology
4. A D 70 Doctrine
5. The day of the Lord
6. 2 Peter 3, After the Resurrection
The fate of
those who not are in Christ
The fate of
those who are in Christ
Appendix one
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Ch. 2 When will the secret
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Ch. 3 Will there be cars
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Ch. 4 What is the battle of Armageddon?
Ch. 5 Is Armageddon coming soon?
Ch. 6 Will Israel be restored?
Will there be a worldwide conversion of Jews?
Ch. 7 Will the temple be rebuilt
in Jerusalem?
Ch. 8 Will animal sacrifices be restored?
Ch. 9 What are the signs of the
second coming of Christ?
Ch. 10
Who are the 144,000?
Ch. 11
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Ch. 12
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ÒTHE INDICTMENT OF ETERNAL TORMENT: THE SELF-NEGATION OF A
MONSTROUS DOCTRINE,Ó by E. D. Slough, a preacher in the Church of Christ, F. L. Rowe
Publisher, 1914. I have put this book on the web free at
http://www.robertwr.com/EternalTorment.pdf
ÒLIFE IN CHRISTÓ by Edward White was
published in 1875 may have been one of the first major protest against the
doctrine of an immortal soul. For the most part this book teaches the truth on
the doctrine of a soul and Hell however there are a few things in it that are
unbiblical. I have put this book on the web free at
http://www.robertwr.com/LifeinChrist.pdf
ÒA HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE SOULÓ by D.
M. Canright. Although there are a few things in this book that I do not believe
to be right, it is the best I have seen on the history of the origin of the
belief in a soul being in a person that will leave the person at their death,
that this belief came from pagan sources, and is not taught in the Bible.
http://www.robertwr.com/soul.pdf
GOOD WEB PAGES BY MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.
(1) Articles by Ken Fortier and C. Dickinson
http://kenfortier.com/site/articles
(2) "The Maxey—Thrasher Debate" A debate on the
eternal destiny of the wicked between two Gospel preachers.
http://www.zianet.com/maxey/MxThrshr.htm