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Charles Capps
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Porn image editing
      #714530 - 2003/01/31 09:03 PM

FYI, esp re: http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB13&Number=693376

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVER DELETE ANY POSTS THAT CONTAIN PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGERY, TROLLING, IDIOTIC BEHAVIOR, OR OTHER THINGS THAT MAY REQUIRE FURTEHR INVESTIGATION.

When you delete the post, you completely destroy any chance that I can grab information about the poster that may be able to help me stop the attacks.

I repeat, again, DO NOT DELETE THE POSTS.

If people whine about it, you can direct them to me, so I can tell them to go get a life.

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Misfit_Toy
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Re: Porn image editing
      #714627 - 2003/01/31 09:26 PM

I presume you still want them to remove the images in question, correct? I thought thats all these posts were, just images. If the images are removed, what else is left?

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T'Bonz
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Re: Porn image editing
      #714664 - 2003/01/31 09:36 PM

Moved from M.A.

Jeeeez.

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BlazerBoy
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Re: Porn image editing
      #714894 - 2003/01/31 10:49 PM

LMAO!!!!!!

That was too much....

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T'Bonz
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Re: Porn image editing
      #715259 - 2003/02/01 12:33 AM

**waits for Charles with a paddle in hand.**

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Huntingdon
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Re: Porn image editing
      #716003 - 2003/02/01 06:50 AM

Exactly what sort of information are we talking about obtaining anyway?

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Lisa
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Re: Porn image editing
      #716146 - 2003/02/01 08:28 AM

^ If you ask, we might have to tell you. And then we'll have to kill you.

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Huntingdon
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Re: Porn image editing
      #716364 - 2003/02/01 10:01 AM

I thought that might be the case.

*Wonders if he can persuade Katie to ask*

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Katie_543
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Re: Porn image editing
      #717943 - 2003/02/01 03:09 PM

Stop trying to get me in trouble. It won't work.

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Charles Capps
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Re: Porn image editing
      #718342 - 2003/02/01 04:47 PM

Gods, I'm an IDIOT, I could have SWORN I posted this in the right forum.

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Jethro Elvis
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Re: Porn image editing
      #718402 - 2003/02/01 04:59 PM

Quote:

Posted by Charles Capps:
Gods, I'm an IDIOT,




I was going to say that, but Katie said I should be nice like she.

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T'Bonz
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Re: Porn image editing
      #718473 - 2003/02/01 05:11 PM

Quote:

Posted by Charles Capps:
Gods, I'm an IDIOT, I could have SWORN I posted this in the right forum.




Heeheehee

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Katie_543
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Re: Porn image editing
      #718502 - 2003/02/01 05:16 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jethro Elvis:
Quote:

Posted by Charles Capps:
Gods, I'm an IDIOT,




I was going to say that, but Katie said I should be nice like she.




No, I told you I would be nice, but if you wanted to unsult him, you could.

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where'sSaavik?
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Re: Porn image editing
      #718823 - 2003/02/01 06:25 PM

Quote:

Posted by Charles Capps:
If people whine about it, you can direct them to me, so I can tell them to go get a life.




Cool. Can I direct all my stupid whiners to you for that? Not just the ones complaining about porn posts, but the ones complaining about avatars, and Jolene Blalock, and Farscape being cancelled, and them being losers?

Btw, what is this bullshit Mitty is requesting? What's the problem with leaving a marker saying "porn deleted?" I'm seriously clueless about what litte gerbil has crawled up this guy's crack for him to be whining this much.

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Huntingdon
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Re: Porn image editing
      #718921 - 2003/02/01 06:45 PM

Apparently "porn" reminds him too much of what was there.

Not like it's hard to put "image removed" instead.

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Hunter X
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Re: Porn image editing
      #719173 - 2003/02/01 07:29 PM

Quote:

Posted by Lisa:
^ If you ask, we might have to tell you. And then we'll have to kill you.




Oooo! Please tell Huntingdon!

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Huntingdon
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Re: Porn image editing
      #719227 - 2003/02/01 07:41 PM

I'd be sure to pass you the information.

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where'sSaavik?
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Re: Porn image editing
      #719464 - 2003/02/01 08:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by Huntingdon:
Apparently "porn" reminds him too much of what was there.




Boo. Hoo.

I seriously don't know what this guy's problem is.

Quote:

Posted by Huntingdon:
Not like it's hard to put "image removed" instead.




No, it's not a matter of difficulty. It's about descriptiveness. When we warn someone we say why we do it. When we edit a thread title we say why we do it. When we move a thread we say why we do it. And when we remove an image we say why we do it. "Image removed" could mean that it was removed for copyright violation, or that it was absorbing too much bandwith, or that it was stretching the thread too far, or that it was a private picture of a board member they didn't want made public. Or it could be porn.

"Porn removed" is the most economical phrase that gets the point across. It also leaves the proper marker. When someone's account gets hacked and they want to know why it was locked, they can look at the post and see. When regular members want to know why a post was removed they can read it and see.

I don't see how a "porn removed" marker can in any way detract from a thread. Are our members so childishly immature that they won't be able to continue discussing a topic simply because the word "porn" is mentioned? What exactly does that say for our membership? Does the attacker get his jollies from seeing "porn removed" markers? No, the dipshit gets his jollies from looking at the porn, not the word "porn."

Look, I know the customer is always right and all that jazz. And I'm all for making reasonable accomodations to the membership when it makes sense. But this is ridiculous. I do not like us setting precedent by giving into the most prudish and silly impulses of one squeaky wheel member. And I certainly do not wish to impose such a silly procedure upon the Mods who have to clean up this crap. They have real problems to fix at those times and I'd rather they keep focused on them rather than this crap.

(sigh)

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Huntingdon
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Re: Porn image editing
      #721088 - 2003/02/02 06:12 AM

Just modifying the word used is hardly showing a sign of weakness. People will know what was removed from the invariable threads in MA and Misc.

Yes, it's a silly objection, but is it really worth bothering to argue about it? He'll just go on and on otherwise.

"Porn removed" is no more economical than "Image removed" and the latter keeps a couple of extra people happy. It's not hard for someone to contact us privately if they want to know specific reasons and, as I said, they'll be connected threads and comments elsewhere anyway.

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Kass
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Re: Porn image editing
      #721786 - 2003/02/02 11:28 AM

Bah. He's being a twit. If you want, I'll tellhim to lighten up afterm my next vicodin. Then you can all crucify me and blame it on the pils. Seeing porn removed isn't going to make him go blind.

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Re: Porn image editing
      #724517 - 2003/02/02 09:07 PM

What's this? saavik and I actually agree on something!?!? Oh, the horror, the horror!

I think if we put "image deleted" instead of "porn deleted" we're just going to have to answer all sorts of questions about what the image was. It makes us look somewhat sneaky, like we're trying to hide the fact that a porn attack occurred.

Also, from just having dealt with one this last Friday, I can say that I think the most important thing is getting the damn pics deleted ASAP. MA threads about it should really only be for people to give us a heads up about new images posted.

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where'sSaavik?
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Re: Porn image editing
      #724935 - 2003/02/02 10:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kass:
Bah. He's being a twit.




Pretty much.

Quote:

Top41:
I think if we put "image deleted" instead of "porn deleted" we're just going to have to answer all sorts of questions about what the image was. It makes us look somewhat sneaky, like we're trying to hide the fact that a porn attack occurred.




Exactly. We don't need to tip toe around this crap. We don't need to make these trolls feel special by doing that.

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T'Bonz
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Re: Porn image editing
      #725555 - 2003/02/03 01:00 AM

I know y'all disagree, but what is the harm? Customer service, it's a little thing to make them happy.

I'll be doing it. If others don't, that is their choice.

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where'sSaavik?
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Re: Porn image editing
      #725696 - 2003/02/03 01:45 AM

Quote:

Posted by T'Bonz:
I know y'all disagree, but what is the harm?




You actually want me to explain that again? It's the principle of the thing, Bon. And if you don't get that I guess that's your problem. It just means I'll have to spend time editing all of your edits to change "image" to "porn."

Fuckin' whore.

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T'Bonz
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Re: Porn image editing
      #725721 - 2003/02/03 01:58 AM

Zzzzz...mmmmpfh?....oh you again?

Bite me, fuckwit!

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Re: Porn image editing
      #726070 - 2003/02/03 05:52 AM

Quote:

Posted by T'Bonz:
I know y'all disagree, but what is the harm? Customer service, it's a little thing to make them happy.





All?

There won't be questions about what was removed because people will read the MA threads and work it out. They're not all stupid.

The whole place buzzes with comments about a porn attack immdeiatelyafterwards, so it will be clear what type of "image" was removed.

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Kass
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Re: Porn image editing
      #726724 - 2003/02/03 10:44 AM

^^I don't think it would be clear what image was removed. Most posters in Misc. don't make comments in the threads about the porn. They ignore it. I think we have to be clear about why we are deleting something from a psot, exactly like we have to be clear why we are warning someone. Deleting content is an extreme reaction, and has to be justified.

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Huntingdon
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Re: Porn image editing
      #727979 - 2003/02/03 03:11 PM

Just because they don't make comments on it, doesn't mean they don't read the threads relating to it.

If they have a query, the likelihood is that they'll go straight to MA or moderator actions, where they'll find information on it.

If they're not, then changing the wording slightly to image is not going to bother them either.

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Kass
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Re: Porn image editing
      #728052 - 2003/02/03 03:30 PM

No offense, Hunt, but that is just plain stupid. We can't slap up a warning without quoting the offensive text and explaining ourselves, so why should we delete content without explaining ourselves.

Deleting is actually much more drastic. The warnings can be rescinded. It is harder to recover deleted content, especially with a limit on the poster's edit time. It is gone.

The word porn isn't going to hurt anyone. Shoot, in some asian cultures, it is a nickname. My aunt from Thailand is named Silaporn. Everyone called her Porn for short. Are we going to ban the user that might try to register than name because it might hurt poor Mitty's eyes?

If I delete an image, I am stating why I deleted it. "Pornographic image removed." And if I issue a warning for posting pornographic images, I am certainly not going to say "One warning for posting (possibly offensive word deleted) images."

That is absurd beyond reason.

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Huntingdon
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Re: Porn image editing
      #728079 - 2003/02/03 03:34 PM

"Image deleted" is as far as we need to explain ourselves. All posts for that username around that period are going to be affected, so there can't be any doubt about what was there.

I think objecting to modifying the wording is rather obstructive. C'est la vie. No offense.

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