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Rant #1, Submitted by Emily
ok, here it goes, im an oboe player in high school, and this other guy who plays the oboe is just sooo totally out of tune and hidiously squeeky!! Im in one of the top bands and have no idea how he managed to get up there, but all he ever does is grunt! he stops playing and grunts, he lets out his air and grunts, he even grunts when he talks! and this isnt just any old grunting noise, its sooo loud and annoying that even the basoons hate it. Not only that, but why in the world to oboes insist on blaming their reeds or instramnets. Sure sometimes the oboe acts up of a key sticks, but not after every mistake. cant some players just accept that they suck and leave their oboes out of it!
Thank you for the first rant
Rant #2, Submitted by Jenna
my name's Jenna.. and i'm also a high school oboe player. second chair at that. i must agree with your rant a/b first chair. personally i feel that the first chair should be in tune before the second chair should tune to the said player. now, if the 1st chair feels that playing extremely sharp is 'in tune'.. is that really helping the good of the group? and then to turn to second chair and say 'you're really flat'. even when the tuning box is out.. why does first chair feel that they can play with no intonation.. as long as #2 matches? is this just my school or what? :)
Nope, it's not just your school. It's a well documented fact that when a player gets first chair they feel they are infallible.
Rant #3, Submitted by Celeste
My name's Celeste. If I told you any more I'd have to kill you.
Today's topic: school rentals.
Curse you, school rentals, you blasted pieces of shit.
I am in the 8th grade, and here's where I stand in the oboe world: I'm top in the school, and have made first chair in the district band, region band, all-city band, region orchestra. I do chamber music on the side, and I'm also in my school's jazz band - I can sightread and transpose simultaneously. I'm not trying to brag, I just learned a lot of musical skills early in life because I had to take piano lessons for 6 years. I've gotten awards at every competition I've gone to. Let's face it, there aren't too many good middle school oboes, but I can proudly say that after 3 years of hard work, I'm one of them.
So, naturally, I have to use a school-rented oboe. In 6th grade, mine was plastic, was missing the left F, had a broken left Eb key, and lacked several trill keys. In 7th, I got the left F and the Eb abd a few trill keys, but still an ugly, honking plastic horn. In 8th grade, I finally have a wooden oboe, but its rods won't stay in place, and it has cracked 3 times in the upper joint.
I don't have anywhere near enough money to get myself my own oboe, and my parents refuse to "invest" in such a "risk". So I'm stuck with these crappy rentals. Next year I'm going to a big high school. I can at least make the middle band, but they give the freshman the worst rentals regardless of their levels. Curse you, curse you all.
It's not nice to imply a threat, and of course you're bragging. You're an oboist, of course you have superior musical skills. We all do.
Rant #4, Submitted by Craig
Gregor,
Not a rant per se... just want to say, I like your site quite a bit. Very much in line with one I contemplate building myself. I would like to suggest adding a discussion room to tighten up the converstion threads and allow the benefits of sharing to become the 'mentor' requested by a number of submissions to your site.
I see that there are many young players looking and suspect there are more of the mature variety like myself willing to share. Lots to learn and share in the world of oboe. Many parables of great worth to speed the learning and in my case a load of indebtedness to several good teachers, some of which wanted nothing more than a 'pay it forward' obligation in return for their great lessons taught.
So, in that spirit... a big toast to those who came before us... a blasphem against the demons of progress and their Arundo Donax obstructions... but mostly, a big thanks to Richard Rubenstein and Dick White for their very gentle wisdom in things leading to relaxation and graceful execution of oboe, which in my youth I thought could be gotten via physical endurance, miles of running, thousands of pushups and pure stubburnness. Lessons and guidances sometimes requiring a decade or more to comprehend. Thank you, ...you were wonderful.
Oboe is a metaphysical simile for alls that is good in the world. Doing it gives and yields great pleasures and sorrows.
There is little I've seen that even comes close.
If Osama Bin Laden we're an oboist, all might be well in the world. ( and as a corrolary, if he we're ever challanged by the game of golf, at least he'd be too preccupied with that moras to cause so much trouble.)
Play on,
-Craig ( excuse typos and spelling goofs)
This message board is a good idea. I'll have to look into that when I get the time.
Rant #5, Submitted by umm... someone
I am currently taking part in a series of concerts in England, and the finale
of the concert is the last movement of beethoven's 9th symphony. I have
played first chair oboe in my orchestra for 6 years now. I am off ill one
rehearsal, and they give my favourite piece of music away to second chair
oboe!!! I am insulted! To be honest I don't know how she's stayed in our
orchestra, she has a really loud squeaky tone, and she can't even play the
cor anglais!!! an oboist who can't play the cor anglais, it defies logic!!!
When there are two cor anglais parts we have to get the reserves in! She
maddens me. Sorry i'm having a bad day! but its so ANNOYING! my favourite
piece of music and SHE gets to play oboe 1!
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
How can you play the oboe but not the English horn? Doesn't add up to me...
Rant #6, Submitted by Heidi
I would like to rant about friends not taking the time to talk to each other.
What is up with people not staying in touch these days? You don't talk to a
person for a week and they act like you have been off the face of this earth?
What is that? I don't get it. Just because you haven't been in frickin'
Sheboygan for how many days, doesn't mean that there is something WRONG with
you. Actually it means that you are quite smart to get out of that hell hole.
Another thing.. why can't classes be frickin' open for sophmores when it says
SOPHMORE status? Huh? Why are they closed? I would like to know. I am a frickin
freshman with enough credits to become a sophmore and guess what they don't let
me do?!? Register for classes that are closed even though sophmores can take
them! If you could get them to let me into that frickin' myth class, let me
know!
Also, what is up with living in residence halls? I hate this place. People suck.
They stay up to all hours of the night and play really BAD music (like
Nickleback or Lifehouse (haha)) and keep me up! What the hell is their problem?
I think they really really need help!
That is my rant for the day.
Love,
Heidi :)
I'm still not sure I should have put this up, having nothing to do with oboes and since its from a violist... viola player... well, you get the picture.
Rant #8, Submitted by Compugeek
You know how it is. When we're in school, we oboe players are looked upon
as strange. We're usually not the cool guys in school. That title is
reserved for the jocks. Well hey Mr. Jock, we're 45 years old now and I'm
still doin' my music thing (and doing it better then when you knew me) and
I intend to keep doing my music thing for many more years. When's the last
time someone asked you to play linebacker????? Your days as a star are
long gone, mine keep going.
So to all you young guys and gals out there, remember... revenge is sweet,
especially when it takes a long time.
I don't know where I stand with this one... I was a jock briefly in high school... though I wasn't a linebacker... and yes, revenge is certainly a dish best served cold.
Rant #9, Submitted by Cece
I'm also an oboe player in high school. I'm the first chair player, nothing to complain about there. What really bothers me is that two years ago when I was a sophomore, there was an oboist who was only a year older and she thought she was the best thing since sliced bread. The first day in class that we played our concert instruments, she requested me to play a piece of music for her, only to tell me that she would most likely get first chair. Not a very good competitor, huh? After our auditions, Mr. Lewis added our scores and found that we had a tie. Not to break the tradition of favoring the senior musician, of course she was chosen to be first chair. That whole year was hell. She tried to get me to go to flute bonding with her and her flutists before football games, since that was the instrument I played for pep band, and then she wanted me to decorate these shirts in order to exclaim that flutes were better since they had cheap, puffy-painted t-shirts. I definitely had enough of that, so for pep band, I switched to tenor saxophone. The next year, we recieved a different band director, and he was not a very good one in my opinion. He did not hold auditions for the oboists, so automatically he placed this demon as section leader. I guess she didn't enjoy being an upperclassmen who had her authority underminded by a junior, so she switched her concert instrument to flute. And then she became the flute vice-section leader, if you want to call it that, since she wasn't good enough for first chair but she was too stubborn to give up her "authority". Later she became the captain of the flag team, graduated, only visits on a few occations, and is constantly bad-mouthed during lunch conversations. The band room is a better place now, until she returns and then we run and hide.
It also bothers me how the freaking choir people think that a contrabass clarinet is an oboe. Or that a basson is a piccolo. What the heck have these people been taught in school? Our tax dollars at work. Oy.
I'm not sure I entirly followed the story there, but I'm pretty sure you need to let it go, high school is vastly unimportant in the grand scheme of things. And I agree. Throats (as we call singers) are quite strange and useless people.
Rant #10, Submitted by Jace
Aloha! my name is Jace and I am the first chair oboist for the Honolulu Symphony and the Hawai'i Youth Symphony Orchestra I . I am here to complain about my director ! Every single director (including a rare appearance with Seiji Ozawa) has always forgotten the Oboe section! It's sickening! Every Solo the I have he mistakens it for a Flute Solo! I hate it ! Curse the flutes! Ugh!
When Seiji Ozawa forgets about the oboes you know there's something seriously wrong in this world.
Rant #11, Submitted by Adam
Okay my name is Adam (yes a member of your cool message board) and i'm principal oboe of my Wind Ensemble and my Symphony Orchestra. The problem is, the second oboist SUCKS!!! She never plays in tune, has a bright disgusting sound and thinks she is better!!!! She always stares at my part when i have a solo, and fingers along with me. ITS SO FRUSTRATING!!! I mean she's just mad because i'm a freshman and beat her out (she's a SENIOR), if she practiced she would be good, but she's like "i only practiced once this month," and it gets WORSE! She thinks its FUNNY, yes thats right F-U-N-N-Y!!! That is such a disrespect for this wonderful instrument, especially when she owns a freaking LOREE ROYALE OBOE!!! its so frustrating AHHHH!!! But hey its all good, i got accepted to Oberlin Conservatory of Music so i'll be with GREAT oboists! So THERE 2nd oboist girl! You can have your spot back next year!!!!!
But of course if she's a senior and graduating she won't have her spot back, unless, of course, she's on the seven year plan like me...
Rant #12, Submitted by Arthur
Hey My name is Arthur and this is a "rant" for your webpage.
ok I'm in 8th grade going in2 9th and i play the oboe(duh, i wouldn't be posting this if i didn't), first and only chair in our crappy middle school band, but i did get to play with Fairhope High School band. i've been playing for a year and made first chair All State Jr High band(i know i'm good, you don't have to tell me). What really gets on my nerves is a oboist who has a Loree and is a REALLY crappy player. i mean, what a waste of money!!! i own a Yamaha that has cracked twice and i used to play on a plastic srcrewed Selmer(all Selmers are naturally screwed). if you are a crappy player out there, send me your Loree! i will use it well!!!
i also hate people who get ticked off when i beat them out in a competition. i mean, GET OVER IT!!
i won because i'm better!! ever stop to think about it???
okay, i'm done. you can all go back to your normal life now.
Yeah, what'll really torch you is when you get into college and people actually OWN better instruments than yours, despite being lesser players.
Rant #13, Submitted by Ann
My all-time enimy:the reed
My name is Ann and I am the second chair Oboe in Wind ensamble. There is one other oboe. I am also the soon-to-be only Oboe in Chamber winds. I had a nightmare that I opened my reed case and my reeds were totally mutalated and shredded. (sad, I know) And, of corse, the next day I broke my only "good" reed. Band camp is in one week and I am reedless. My reed supplyer, the other Oboe, is out of reach. I surrender.
Your reeds mysteriously became mutalated and shredded IN the case, and your source of reeds is out of reach? Conspiracy anybody?
Rant #14, Submitted by Ilana
Hi, I'm Ilana .
Ok, here it goes.
I was in this really good youth orchestra for 2 years.
The first year I auditioned and I got last chair. I didn't really have
a problem with that because that's how I auditioned and I still got to
play some neat soli parts.
I practiced a ton the summer before my 2nd year of that orchestra. When
I auditioned I got 1st chair, and the person who was first chair last
year got 3rd chair. she was really pissed, (especialy since we were
playing Beethoven's 5th) and kept complaining to me that it was unfair.
she even complained to the conductor. After that, the conductor
announced that all the oboes were equal and we would share all the
solos.
For the first concert, I got to play 1st oboe on 3 pieces which all had
really good parts. And the 2nd chair got the solos on one piece, and the
3rd chair got a really nice English horn and a pretty nice oboe solo.
But for the 2nd concert, The 3rd chair got the first solos on all the
pieces but one. (we were playing about 6 pieces) The one piece that she
didn't get was this really loud obnoxious crappy pop piece that didn't
really have any oboe solos (except a few doublings with the flute). I
got that piece. The real 2nd chair played didn't get any solos.
And that pissed me off because the conductor said the solos would be
divided equally and they weren't.
Actualy the solos weren't even supposed to be divided at all, but
because the 3rd chair complained.
Anyways, I don't know if I should be so upset about this but I am.
Sure you can be upset, but do something about it. Don't let a 3rd chair muscle around the conductor. Principles are in charge... and in the oboes case that includes being in charge of the conductor.
Rant #15, Submitted by Vicki
Off we go... my name is Vicki, and I'm a senior in high school, this ghetto school with a teeny weeny little band. All of forty people. I'm a flute player by trade, started the oboe out of necesity (they hadn't the faintest idea what the oboe was!!!) Anyway, I took up the oboe, fell in love with it, and now it's marching band season and I almost wish I was playing oboe now, too. Half the people in the flute section don't even play, and I'm stuck in the chair below this idiot piccolo who thinks she's all that simply because she's the section leader's friend. Grrrrr!!!!!.... and usually flute is the only wind instrument that most oboe players seem able to tolerate (don't even get me started on the bleeding clarinets, either)! Then concert season will roll around, and the aforementioned piccolo player will start laying in on me about how I'm "betraying my instrument", and similiar b.s. What happened to woodwind loyalty?! We might as well turn all power over to the trumpets now. Besides, I like the oboe, plain and simple. And I've even recruited a freshman to my tiny oboe section (me), so hopefully that will get that #&^*$?! piccolo's goat.
By the way, I love your sight, and am relieved to find it through Yahoo. I'm going to throw my computer out the window one of these days, I swear.
There is no such thing as woodwind loyalty. Oboists stand together against everyone else. It has been that way since the beginning of time and must remain that way eternally.
Rant #16, Submitted by Dini
Okay. First off: I HATE the Symphony directors that forget the single most important instrument in the entire ensemble (if you couldn't guess already, it's the oboe section). Sharyn Peterson, director of the Fidalgo Bay Youth Symphony and the Mount Baker Youth Symphony, is the number ONE culprit of forgetting the oboists. I'm the 1st chair and often only chair oboist in both these groups and every time she's supposed to cue an oboe solo, she doesn't even look up from the score!! I hate her for that. And when world class clarinetist Eugene Zoro came to direct at the summer camp, he was worse. He forgot EVERYONE except the CLARINETS!!!!! He even forgot the violins!!! And they're sitting right in front of him!!!!! *punches a whole in a wall, seething in anger* He makes me so angery.
So anyways....on with my rant. A while ago, my student of 2 years is finally picking up the English Horn. She went to the local Hugo Helmer store and asked for an English Horn. They sold her a reed and sent her on her way. She came to my house for her lesson and I pulled out my English Horn and soaked her reed for a while. I put it on the horn and warm up a little while my student finishes a little bit of her homework. The reed sucks. I mean there's sucks where it can be fixed, and there's sucks where nothing helps. This reed was way too flat to be considered even a piece of crap. I pull it off and try anything and everything to fix it and it doesn't change at all. I inspect it more closely and find a lable on the edge of the staple that reads: "Bagpipe". I said a few nasty words, and then proceeded to throw the reed against the far wall of my living room and stomp on it. I stopped then and continued with the lesson. After the lesson ended, I took the reed and put it in the middle of my street and drove over it, put my Blazer in reverse and ran over the reed again (getting several strange looks by doing so).
Having said that and ranted about my days as an oboist, I will say this: HUGO HELMER MUSIC OF MOUNT VERNON KNOWS SHIT ABOUT WIND INSTRUMENTS!!!!
Wow, there's a lot to go through in that one. I probably shouldn't put the names of specific people up on this site when there's such negativity directed toward them... but what do I care, if they deserve it they deserve it.
Rant #17, Submitted by Martha... I think, it's based only on the address.
iplay oboe in the seventh-grade band and in last years star pies we had 48 mesures of rest ot of 68 mesures. thates over half the piece. in two years of playing we have never had a solo. I love playing but man after hearing Mozarts or Bachs obe concertos i'm wondering how the oboe went from the grand instroment it was to not playing hafe the piece now. It truly is a digrace.
That's band for you. There's still some nice band parts though, all is not that bad... just most of it.
Rant #18, Submitted by Kamiole... again, based solely on the email address.
Dude, peoples, i totally agree with you. I'm a pretty damn rockin oboist, im a member of a kickass youth orchestra in PA, and im goin for districts etc. first, i was a freshman this year, and i wasnt allowed to try out for districts because im a freshman, even though schools all over the fricin country can have kids try out when they're in 7th grade. second, our second oboist (if you can call her that) is fricin horrible. she didnt even play oboe for most of the stuff, claiming she couldnt get one, so she played a fricin PICCOLO for all the oboe parts. she took all the solo's, and played em horribly on her piccolo. our school hates oboes, which reallyy sucks, our band director disses them, our whole band is against anything double-reeded. every other instrument sucks~ and oboe rocks. rockin in da oboe world
banana
A pic playing the oboe solos... man, I don't even know where to begin on that one.
Rant #19, Submitted by Gretchen
what i do not get is the fact that my oboe (or hoboe for my friends... damn them all) is always called a clarinet. When ever somone calls my oboe a clarinet i get nasty! TO ALL CLARENET PLAYER PEEPS!!! OBOES ARE NOT CLARINETS!!!!!! ok i got that out...
I blame the clarinets. Our instrument came first, and then they came around and decided to use our precious wood. Clarinets have caused us all sorts of problems.
Rant #20, Submitted by Arthur
Reed making has to be the most aggravating thing in the entire world! After a futile attempt, I end up with the cane being crooked on the staple and 3 miles of neon green thread. Curse you, reeds!
Why do some people insist on playing the English horn when they really can't? They only accomplish one thing when they play cor anglais: a noise slightly akin to that of a dying cow.
My first chair oboist in our youth orchestra is a senior and is quite sharp. I played some duets with her the other night and she confessed to be playing on 'the reed that would never die'; i.e. 'the reed that is obnoxiously out-of-tune'. She got a full paid scholarship on that reed. I would like to know how her horrible intonation failed to catch the attention of the oboe professor. I would not hesitate to say that I am much better than her, and should not be sitting third chair.
The Mozart concerto is the foremost piece of literature in the oboe repertoire. I hate it. Everyone plays it, and it gets on my nerves. It's like the neverending Riverdance of Satan.
To anyone who is searching for a good oboe, but cannot afford the Loree price tag (damn Lorees), try looking at a Buffet Green Line oboe. It has a nice, dark sound; and is guaranteed not to crack. Unless you go ice fishing and take your oboe along.
Okay, jeez, should I comment on all of these points? Why not. 1.) Reed making is a pain in the ass. Just about half an hour ago at reed making class my prof. snapped. I blame the freshmen who keep asking for cane. 2.) I personally don't like playing on the English horn, and since I'm not great at it I advoid it at every cost. 3.) There's more to being good than being in tune, but very true, an out of tune person is annoying, and playing on a reed that for all purposes died months ago doesn't help. 4.) I DON'T LIKE MOZART. HE IS OVER-RATED (along with EVERY other composer from the classical period). 5.) Can't comment, I haven't ever played on a Buffet Green Line... but I do like the idea of taking an oboe ice fishing.