There is something I have wanted to talk about for a long time but never had a place where I felt comfortable doing so. I can just hear the conversation now: Hi Pastor, I want to spank my wife, is that Christian? Ugh, depart from me ye unclean monster of iniquity!!
I think I would have a hard time talking to my pastor about this also. Even though I have talked to him about many embarrassing things in the past (masturbation, sex). Jeff, our pastor (if you met him you would understand why it is hard to call him Pastor Jeff, he is just too cool to be a pastor), would probably smile at me, nod his head a lot and then tell me to go pray about it (his famous words).
IMHO there is no right or wrong answers here. This is between you, your spouse and God only. No body should be telling you what is right for you. No where does it say in the Bible that a husband has the "right" to spank his wife on the other hand, no where does it say that he shouldn't. It does say that a husband is the authority figure of the house and that he is responsible to God for his wife, family and himself.
What I am trying to say here is this, I do not believe that corporal discipline for wives goes against the word of God. I also do not believe that a wife who has done a wrong should always be expected to give complete consent to the punishment they receive for their wrongs (though there should be some sort of mutual agreement in the very beginning of the relationship). If this were so our judicial system would not work. I believe that when the word says wives be submitted to your husband in everything, if that husband chooses to spank for discipline then the wife should do her best to submit to him.......NOT beatings or other abuses. He does not have the authority to beat, harass, or abuse her in any way. He does have the authority to lead his house in a way that is honoring to God.
In my opinion an over the knee spanking
is not
abuse even if it is without the total consent of the recipient. If we
are
going to say that non-consensual spankings are abuse then we must all
give
up spanking our children as well because I have yet to meet one that
gave
their consent. And as a side note I am bewildered over the fact that
some
think nothing of spanking a small child with limited experience and
learning
without their consent but are repelled in horror at the thought of
spanking a grown woman who is suppose to be mature enough to have control over herself without her
consent. The Bible instructs husbands to live
with their
wives and honor them as fellow heirs of the kingdom. The Bible also
says
anyone that causes even one of these little ones to stumble; it would
better
that he be drowned. If a husband does something to his wife that goes
against these principals I firmly believe that he will be held
accountable
by God and should be held accountable by man. I also want to state
here that
although a man is the head of his house and is held accountable for
that
house this does not relieve a wife of duty to behave in a Godly
fashion. In
fact if she loves God and her husband it would seem that
because she knowing the burden he bears she would strive that much
more to
be pleasing to both. Both Adam and Eve were punished for their sin.
Eve
because she did what was commanded her not to do and Adam because he
did not
stop her but joined her in her sin.
How does this bring us closer to God you ask? Well to be honest, BDSM
doesn't bring us closer to God. What is does is bring us closer to
each
other which makes us want to do things together like daily Bible
reading,
prayer, going to church, and going to bible study. Not everything has
to bring us closer to God, example; eating doesn't bring you closer to
God, but it is what is in your heart that brings you closer to God. You may
give 50% of your earning to the church, but if your heart isn't in it, it
doesn't mean much.
I don't think there will be any BDSM in heaven, how then
do we
justify it here on earth?
I think I answered this question above, but in case it fell short of an answer I will go ahead and answer this.
What makes you think there won't be BDSM in heaven? What Master and I believe is that heaven will be different
for everybody. What your idea of heaven may not be mine. The Bible says that there is a mansion for each and
everyone of us in heaven, but it didn't say that they will all be the same. My idea of heaven maybe in the country with
trees, mountains and a river, but for someone else, that might not be how they picture heaven. It maybe living in the city.
There may not be the sexual BDSM in heaven (I am still not sure about sex in heaven) but there will be all men and women
submitting and worshipping God all mighty for eternity. Kneeling down before him.
God created sex for our pleasure. He knows what makes us "tick". I
believe that the things that "turn me on" are from the Lord. As long as it
doesn't go against the things that he has stated is a sin. God is very
distinctive in what is a sin, everything else I believe is between God and that
person.
Take tattoos for instance (I am not trying to get into a discussion
about this), it states in the OLD Testament that we are not to have
tattoos, but we are no longer live under law, but by grace. So is it wrong to have
a tattoo? Master and I know a man that is in our worship team at our church
who has tattoos all over. They are of Christian things. Because of his
tattoos he has been able to witness to many people that otherwise
would not open up there heart and listen.
Because of this, God has shown me that
tattoos might not be right for me, but for this man it was. God was
able to use the tattoos on this man to reach people that no one else could.
What I am trying to say is that not everything is black and white. God made
gray, too.
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