THE PHIL SCHNEIDER CONTROVERSY --- PRO AND CON

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Subject: Memory of Phil Schneider
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:16:55 -0700

" DEADMEN TELL NO TALES "
Unsupported ravings are not evidence, particularly when it is proved to be a Lie.
Memory of  Phil Schneider
Survivor of 1979 Fire Fight in Dulce, New Mexico ?

"Sixty-six secret service agents, FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that fire fight. I was there."  Phil Schneider
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Phil  Schneider claims he was, one of three people to survive the 1979 fire fight between the large Greys, US intelligence and military, at the Dulce underground base.    Phil was found dead,  January 1996, due to what some people like to claim "appears to be an execution style murder". 
 Seven months prior to his death , Schneider did a lecture on the forces he had discovered at Dulce.
     BUT...Tim Swartz writes that "Clackamas County Coroner's office
 initially attributed Philip Schneider's death to a stroke." 
 Schneider was NOT murdered.  
He suffered multiple physical illnesses [ brittle bone syndrome(osteoperosis),
 cancer, injuries (Philip had missing fingers on his left hand)]. 
 He had intense chronic pain all of the time. 
* Officially, suicide was listed as the cause of death.
   An autopsy was performed at the Multnomah County Medical Examiner's
   office (in Portland, Oregon) by Dr. Gunson, and she determined that
   Philip had committed suicide by wrapping a rubber cathater hose three
   times around his neck, and half-knotting it in front.

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    Phil told a Nice story.   To bad his story did NOT match the other 12 people who got out of DULCE BASE, in 1979.
    They told their stories to others between 1979 and 1989.    Phil  Schneider did not tell his BOGUS Story till about 1995. 
    Phil was unable to answer even the most simple questions "Privately" put to his by people who did know about the Dulce Base.   Phil had never heard of "Project Gasbuggy".  He claimed to be a knowledgable "Geologist" and explosives expert.     He described the construction of the Dulce base incorrectly. He did not know the info kept from all previous releases of info about the base.  Example : Anyone who was EVER in the base would KNOW the unusual nature of the hallway floors and what was the ONLY area of the base that did not have that "material" on the floor.   He did NOT know the real unique "Shape" of the Dulce Elevators.   He did not know the distance BETWEEN each level.    He did not know that each level had a highly noticeable DIFFERENCE than any other level.    He did NOT know the Security Requirements or procure about going from one level to another.
Schneider was never able or willing to prove his allegations
 (e.g. showing the entrance to Dulce Base or where Tunnels he drilled were located).
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     Phil Schneider did repeat info about the Underground bases that was ALREADY in Print.
  Phil Schneider did quote "word for word" material ALREADY written by other researchers.  
  Phil Schneider did NOT bring forward ANY new info, not already in circulation.
  Phil Schneider DID put on a good show, for any NEWBIE to the Info. 
  He DID tie together many aspects of the material.  
  He did Correlate the Data into a Dramatic "Story" format that flowed well.
  He put a personal face on all the material and that was compelling.
But, still he was weaving together lies and information already in circulation.
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  Phil Schneider was connected to another Bull-Shit Con artist....  Al Bielek .
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 Phil also fucked up the truth.
   He said, "Richard Souder, a Ph-D architect, has risked his life by talking about this.   He worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases."    
 Well. Richard's name is Sauder and he NEVER "worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases."
 
* Phil said, "They have laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day."
That is CRAP.
* Phil said, ""The average depth of these bases is over a mile..."   
That is CRAP.
* Phil said, "They are all between 2.66 and 4.25 CUBIC miles in size." 
   That IS REALLY Crap.
 
* Phil said, "My Father, Otto Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. He was originally a U-boat captain, was captured and repatriated in the United States. "  
 The simple answer to this one is that there was no U-boat commander in WWII with that name. Only 2 commanders with that last name in the war; Herbert Schneider died while in command of U-522 and Manfred Schneider only commander the small XXIII boat U-4706 for the last 3 months of the war, never on patrol. This story is just that, a story.
 
* Phil said, " He (Phil's father) was involved with different kinds of concerns, such as the A-bomb, the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented a high-speed camera that took pictures of the first atomic tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946.   I have original photos of that test, the photos show UFO's fleeing the bomb site at a high rate of speed. " 
     Oscar Schneider was a Captain in the United States Navy, worked in nuclear medicine.
 PHIL did have photos from Operation Crossroads.   His father died in 1993, Philip discovered the photographs
   in his father's basement .  But...NO test was done on July 12, 1946.  The Crossroads tests were the fourth and fifth nuclear explosions (following the Trinity test and the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki).    * Test Able, was on 1 July 1946.    * Test Baker, was on 25 July 1946
 
* Phil said, That the Dulce Base ".... goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep." 
   NOPE 
 
* Phil said,  'I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that."   
    Radioactive cobalt is used for commercial and medical purposes.  Exposure to high levels of cobalt can result in lung and heart effects and dermatitis.  Phil may have gotten his exposure to cobalt by undergoing radiation the therapy treatment of deep-seated cancer.  But, there are NO "Cobalt Weapons" except in "Flash Gordon" stories.
NOTE : Later, Phil said, "Right now I am dying of cancer that I contracted because of my work for the federal government. "    He worked for the Army Corps of Engineers and U.S. Navy.
 
* Phil said, he had "a Ryolite-38 clearance factor - one of the highest in the world."     
 Ryolite was a Top Secret surveillance satellite system developed at TRW.   Rhyolite refers to SIGINT (signal intelligence) satellites.  Phil was NOT involved with this type of work.  He did NOT have a Ryolite clearance.
NOTE : Later, Phil said, " I cut up my security card and sent it back to the government".
    Too bad, there goes another thing that Could have been useful to his story (lets say "his Lies".)
 
* Phil said. "I was hired not too long ago to do a report on the World Trade Centre bombing. I looked at the pictures taken right after the blast. The concrete was puddled and melted. There is only one weapon that can do that - a small nuclear weapon."
     The 3 buildings that came down at the WTC were NOT "Nuked". 
 
* Phil said, " "Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 million Kurdish people...."
   WRONG.....try more like 5000 civilians.
 
* Phil said, That Government Agents asked him NOT to show the "Classified" Photos of "Operation Crossroads" NUKE Tests, in public.    
 Phil showed the "authentic" Original Photos any way and after his death...the Photos were "Missing".
       [ "Whatever we think of Phil Schneider's claims, there is no denying that he was of peculiar interest to the FBI and CIA.    According to his widow, intelligence agents thoroughly searched the premises shortly after his death and made off with at least a third of the family photographs."   Prof. G. Cope Schellhorn ]
* Phil was a friend of Ron Rummel.  
 Ron was found in a park in Portland in Sept. 1993 (according to Cynthia Schneider Drayer).
The police believed that he had committed suicide by shooting himself in the mouth.
Ron,  Philip, and 5 other people had been collaborating on a little magazine
called "The Alien Digest". It was starting to get a fairly wide
   circulation, when Ron was found in the park. Philip felt that his  friend had been murdered
NOTE : Prof. G. Cope Schellhorn, says that  Ron Rummel, ex-air force intelligence agent and publisher of the Alien Digest, was found on August 6, 1993.    http://www.rense.com/general64/liquid.htm
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**************************** The gullibility factor.

Underground Bases, Missing Children and Extra-Terrestrials
What You Need to Know for Your Future

By James Casbolt, former MI6 agent July 4, 2006  

The grey and reptilian aliens working together with the military in the underground bases is called MIEC (military industrial extra- terrestrial complex).
* On July 11, 1934 the first treaty with the greys from Orion occurred aboard a naval ship in Balboa.
*It was here that the agreement was first made between the greys representing the reptilians from Orion and representatives of the US intelligence community.
* On the Crowed skies website there is video smuggled out of the Dulce underground facility that shows greys inside vats absorbing these blood mixtures through their skin.
 
     This guy is Bogus TOO.   He is just rehashing old stuff that
has been in general circulation FOR YEARS.
   There is NO new material in his statement (Article).
And he unknowing quotes material that "J.B.III" had written over the years.
    He believes, the Dulce Base Video Tape is real.  
  Any good informed "Agent" from MI6 would know it was fake.
He is just repeating stuff for other KNOWN Sources.
   
******************************Phil Schneider.... lying?
posted on 24-11-2005 at 07:38 AM (post id: 1845438) - single
So racheal

You beleive this then.....

"For the final point, some might ask why Schneider might deliberately lie about his past to so many people.
Firstly, there is a degree of capital to be made from these sorts of stories.
 Secondly, Schneider was in the last few months of his death. Perhaps Schneider secretly knew that his cancer was not picked up from some alien weapon, but from radiation he had been exposed to from studying rocks/tunnels in his lifetime. He was a geologist afterall. Moreover, Schneider may have believed that the government was reponsible for his death (he was employed by them), and by telling the world an array of astonishing, convincing stories, he wished to deliver a blow to federal government. But why would he commit suicide? As mentioned, Schneider was coming up to the final months of his life. In his lectures he spoke of how he had been threatened by government officials, as had his wife if he spoke about his past. It is very possible that Schneider killed himself, but intended that his legion of followers believed he was murdered. This obviously would authenticate his story. "
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There are still no doubt many 'secret' government (and reptilian !?) Disinfo-Agensts apparently trying to lead people away from the TRUTH about the Dulce Base...

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