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Dilation Horizon: yo
Dilation Horizon: we should talk a bit about this sci-fi-burn-out thing
Dilation Horizon: what we have is a highly unusual situation
Dilation Horizon: i dont know if you are there, or if you will be there while i am here, so if i dont hearfrom you while im online i want you to call me sunday afternoon - say 4 or later - or monday anytime
Dragoon Penguin: im here
Dilation Horizon
: i think the situation we are faced with is perhaps going to be the most difficult kind to resolve as far as burn-out goes. i want more information from you about this
Dragoon Penguin: i was watching metroid prime 2 shit
Dilation Horizon
: is it good shit?
Dragoon Penguin: well no, but its not supposed to be good, its supposed to leave you wanting more
Dragoon Penguin
: it does that well
Dilation Horizon
: i guess thats what i mean
Dilation Horizon: are you actively playing with any other role playing groups - emphasis on groups
Dilation Horizon: ?
Dragoon Penguin: no
Dilation Horizon
: i thought so. when did you notice burn out - it has been like 10-12 days since we played last
Dragoon Penguin: last time we played
Dragoon Penguin
: i wasnt feeling it
Dragoon Penguin
: well
Dragoon Penguin
: last 2 times i wasnt feeling it but the last time was big time
Dilation Horizon
: what about any other previous times before the 3 you have mentiuoned
Dragoon Penguin: kinda
Dragoon Penguin
: it was small and gradual
Dragoon Penguin
: kinda went up and down the whole time though
Dilation Horizon
: perhaps with a specific "world" that we have been alternating between at sessions?
Dragoon Penguin: not really
Dilation Horizon
: well, here is the situation as i see it
Dilation Horizon: the campaign we are playing in is just about the most bizare that one can have
Dragoon Penguin: no arguements
Dilation Horizon
: the short of it is, by designing the campaign as i have, i have already used up all of the most powerful tools to amending burn out in a game
Dilation Horizon: usually, scifi games tend to be right wing or center if you will
Dilation Horizon: to solve burn out you spice it up with some left wing
Dilation Horizon: Viru Mu is strongly left wing
Dilation Horizon: I do not think that swinging right will help at all, that is, going conventional
Dilation Horizon: nor am i willing to do that
Dilation Horizon: is there anything at this point you would like to say?
Dragoon Penguin: next time lets try it at my place
Dilation Horizon
: alright
Dragoon Penguin: AC is nice
Dilation Horizon
: the next thing that is commonly prescibed is basically play more often
Dilation Horizon: i dont think we could do that
Dilation Horizon: we play about as often as we can
Dragoon Penguin: also i havent been roleplaying my character at all
Dilation Horizon
: i know
Dragoon Penguin: he wouldnt give a shit about any of the stuff thats going on
Dilation Horizon
: AC is nice, by the way
Dilation Horizon: that may be, and to an extent i kinda want that
Dilation Horizon: this should be like you are in the middle of unrelated things
Dilation Horizon: anyway, so the two best options, play more, and put the campaign on its head, are basically inaccessable to us at this juncture
Dilation Horizon: there are two options available that i know of
Dilation Horizon: do you have anyhting to say at this point?
Dragoon Penguin: well
Dragoon Penguin
: i assume this is what youre after
Dragoon Penguin
: but what i really dont like is there is no motivation for my character to keep breathing seeing the things he has seen
Dilation Horizon
: i am unsure of what you mean
Dragoon Penguin: it undermines his very reason for being
Dilation Horizon
: in know you have playe dthe 1 hp thing quite a bit, but i dont think thats what you are saying
Dragoon Penguin: no its not
Dilation Horizon
: clarify, then
Dilation Horizon: after we dicuss this point a bit, let me know when you want to hear my two options
Dragoon Penguin: he has been trained to kill nibirj and protect humans and follow the orders of the panfaus, which he has recently discovered is something of nibirj and employs nibirj to do his bidding. this really dosent make sense to him
Dragoon Penguin
: on top of that
Dragoon Penguin
: theres the matter of the severe mental trauma he has been through in his childhood
Dragoon Penguin
: his father is taken away
Dragoon Penguin
: his mother kills herself
Dragoon Penguin
: all he has left is his sister
Dragoon Penguin
: then she is taken as well
Dragoon Penguin
: he is only about 8
Dragoon Penguin
: he is trained to kill from that point on
Dilation Horizon
: ok, yes, does this lead to a specific point?
Dragoon Penguin: for 12 years he is taught how to end the existence of other beings without compassion
Dragoon Penguin
: he is dead inside
Dragoon Penguin
: then his sister gets a near incureable disease
Dragoon Penguin
: and will surely die
Dilation Horizon
: it sounds lik ethis roleplaying thing would be about as available as it comes
Dragoon Penguin: thats too much stress for a person to handle
Dilation Horizon
: for the record, is that the point you have built to?
Dragoon Penguin: then theres his travels in the panfaus's palace
Dragoon Penguin
: the sick and twisted shit he has seen
Dragoon Penguin
: he would have been driven far past the brink of sanity
Dragoon Penguin
: and
Dragoon Penguin
: ok ill get to the point
Dilation Horizon
: then i give it to you - Jonah is insane!
Dragoon Penguin: i havent played any of that
Dragoon Penguin
: BECAUSE
Dragoon Penguin
: there is no audience to appriciate any of the things he has been through
Dragoon Penguin
: i dont think this is good
Dragoon Penguin
: to play solo
Dilation Horizon
: i agree that this would be best with a grouo
Dragoon Penguin: these adventures could be so much more if there were more characters
Dilation Horizon
: we havent even got to the double-tech things yet
Dilation Horizon: i know they could
Dragoon Penguin: ?
Dilation Horizon
: however, you should roleplay anyway
Dragoon Penguin: im not motivated to
Dilation Horizon
: that is no excuse, though i understand
Dragoon Penguin: what double tech things?
Dilation Horizon
: then you have some ethically shameful practices with your motivation
Dragoon Penguin: blah blah
Dragoon Penguin
: whatever
Dilation Horizon
: regardless
Dragoon Penguin: i dont see a reason to do so so i dont
Dragoon Penguin
: you know what you want from this
Dilation Horizon
: that is pathetic
Dragoon Penguin: i know what i want
Dragoon Penguin
: i have an idea of what you want
Dragoon Penguin
: i can focus 100% on that
Dragoon Penguin
: but theres no mystery between a gamemaster and a player
Dilation Horizon
: true
Dragoon Penguin: for example
Dilation Horizon
: you dont need to demonstate
Dragoon Penguin: if i were to say "ill fucking kill that nigger with my hypercannon"
Dragoon Penguin
: in a solo setting
Dragoon Penguin
: you would say "um, you dont have a niggerbusting hypercannon"
Dragoon Penguin
: because you know that instead of the hypercannon i took the money from the burning building before it came crashing down
Dragoon Penguin
: everything i do, you know about or else it simply didnt happen
Dragoon Penguin
: now
Dragoon Penguin
: with other players
Dragoon Penguin
: there can be secrets kept from then
Dragoon Penguin
: *them
Dragoon Penguin
: i was the last one out of the burning building
Dragoon Penguin
: they didnt see what i grabbed on my way out
Dragoon Penguin
: but ill tell you and you know
Dragoon Penguin
: and i know
Dilation Horizon
: your point was demonstated well before you got into this, but i guess you enjoy it
Dragoon Penguin: so i can bust some nigger ass with my hypercannon
Dragoon Penguin
: or buy a hypercannon with my money
Dragoon Penguin
: we know what i have, they dont
Dragoon Penguin
: i like things like that
Dilation Horizon
: that is certianly more than fair
Dragoon Penguin: points now
Dragoon Penguin
: your 2 points
Dilation Horizon
: my two options, you mean?
Dilation Horizon: i guess that is a yes
Dragoon Penguin: yeah
Dragoon Penguin
: sure
Dilation Horizon
: first, there needs to be a discussion between us - part of which ha salready taken place
Dilation Horizon: about gaming and kinds of gaming in general
Dilation Horizon: i think that is straight forward
Dilation Horizon: the second, something i mentioned as we started this solo thing, is for you to have a group you play with too
Dilation Horizon: i have found two others who would like to be players
Dilation Horizon: if i get somethings going with them, are you in?
Dragoon Penguin: who are they?
Dilation Horizon
: mike lorance and evan wiedner
Dilation Horizon: evan is a mormon who has roleplayed in his past
Dragoon Penguin: i know who he is
Dilation Horizon
: he used to play in a group i had years ago
Dragoon Penguin: and mike
Dragoon Penguin
: tayler
Dragoon Penguin
: despite what you think
Dragoon Penguin
: i have seen other people roleplay
Dragoon Penguin
: wait
Dragoon Penguin
: ok
Dragoon Penguin
: those sentences arent supposed to be one after thew other
Dragoon Penguin
: lets try again!
Dragoon Penguin
: i have seen other people roleplay
Dilation Horizon
: i cant say he was the best player, but he is something and would be dedicated to the cause of playing
Dilation Horizon: im not doing this to have you witness others roleplay
Dragoon Penguin: and despite what you think jason and adam are not bad by comparison. they arent as bad as you make them out to be
Dilation Horizon
: as far as roleplaying goes, i think jason is good - if a little supperficial with it, and adam is solidly OK.
Dilation Horizon: i call them bed players, not bad roleplayers
Dilation Horizon: jasons leave at three/must destroy the group-ishness is why i aim that at him
Dilation Horizon: adams sleepiness, habit of lying, and general undedication to the group is why i aim those things at him
Dragoon Penguin: he does that because you never give enough of the plot to satisfy the group
Dilation Horizon
: who?
Dragoon Penguin: jason
Dragoon Penguin
: he gets tired of playing and never getting anything
Dragoon Penguin
: im the same way but i just take it because im a bitch like that
Dragoon Penguin
: but i think that im gonna have to stop being so passive
Dilation Horizon
: i will have you know that in 3 of my campaigns i have started jason was doing his thing 3 hours into the fist adventures of the campaign
Dragoon Penguin: its not somethig new
Dilation Horizon
: if you think no plot has come your way in Viru Mu then you have been very inattentive
Dragoon Penguin: no i know a lot has happened
Dragoon Penguin
: but it means nothing
Dilation Horizon
: as i said, very inattentive
Dragoon Penguin: because i havent read on blues waters
Dragoon Penguin
: or something
Dilation Horizon
: blues waters is only something to show you with a very characterized character
Dragoon Penguin: and a story similar to mine
Dilation Horizon
: yes, i am awae of it
Dilation Horizon: aware
Dragoon Penguin: theres no doubt in my mind you are
Dilation Horizon
: but i would not give you blues waters to demonstate plot
Dragoon Penguin: things arent moving fast enough
Dragoon Penguin
: its possible to herd me to the next area or bit of whatnot
Dragoon Penguin
: you know how
Dragoon Penguin
: but you dont do it
Dragoon Penguin
: you let me waste time
Dragoon Penguin
: just sit in somewhere forever
Dragoon Penguin
: i have other things i would rather devote my time to
Dilation Horizon
: first, yes things could move faster
Dilation Horizon: second, things are supposed to be a CHALLENGE
Dilation Horizon: and if you are unwilling to invest the patience, then i will not help you
Dilation Horizon: i do not recal you sitting around for very long - anywhere- in viru mu
Dragoon Penguin: i dont care
Dilation Horizon
: about?
Dragoon Penguin: just listen
Dilation Horizon
: k
Dragoon Penguin: i want a break from playing alternity, from viru mu
Dragoon Penguin
: i dont even play video games as often as i play alternity
Dragoon Penguin
: i just feel like im wasting my time when i do
Dragoon Penguin
: i will not play
Dragoon Penguin
: other matters demand more of my time
Dilation Horizon
: i sthat your point?
Dragoon Penguin: i dont feel right playing a solo campaign
Dragoon Penguin
: i dont like solo campaigns
Dragoon Penguin
: i will not play
Dilation Horizon
: you mean will not play solo campaigns, right?
Dragoon Penguin: at the moment im not sure
Dilation Horizon
: i just want to make sure i have what you are saying right
Dilation Horizon: is that what you basically intended with that?
Dragoon Penguin: i guess
Dilation Horizon
: thats fine, i understand that
Dilation Horizon: there are some players - and dm's - that wont
Dilation Horizon: or dont, or cant, or whatever
Dragoon Penguin: im all three
Dilation Horizon
: on two accounts, about motivation that came up a while ago, and about "othermatters demanding more of your time"
Dilation Horizon: you will love this
Dilation Horizon: i am seriously dissapointed in you Ben
Dilation Horizon: not from holding any opinions, i respect that
Dilation Horizon: and i yeild to that
Dilation Horizon: but, you are very poor of spirit
Dilation Horizon: i thought more of you
Dragoon Penguin: whatever
Dilation Horizon
: see, i told you youd love it
Dilation Horizon: im not sure what i will do with you now
Dilation Horizon: in the words of Don Juan "I do not associate with people who are not warriors or who are not dead."
Dilation Horizon: warriors does not mean what you think it does, and dead does mean what you think it does
Dilation Horizon: i guess i should say that i am not insulted or anything like that from any of this
Dilation Horizon: i had a great time with viru mu, at least on my end
Dilation Horizon: and you were just about the only thing that held jason adam me you togather for as long as it did
Dilation Horizon: and i am not saying that those times were bad
Dilation Horizon: thank you for those things
Dilation Horizon: if it is all i get from you, it is more than enough, and much more than i can take with me
Dilation Horizon: i dont know if you are reading this, but you should
Dilation Horizon: i would like to know that you did
Dragoon Penguin: no im reading
Dilation Horizon
: well, good
Dilation Horizon: i though you wernt
Dilation Horizon: thanks
Dragoon Penguin: yeah
Dilation Horizon signed off at 1:14:01 AM
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