THE TIME (1/4 mile ET)
2000 Acura Integra
2000 Honda Civic Si
2000 Audi S4 Quattro
1998 BMW M Roadster
1986 Buick Regal Grand National
1998 Chevrolet Camaro
Z28 SS 13.6
1997 Dodge Viper GTS
1999 Ford Mustang GT
1996 Honda Civic EX
1998 Honda Civic DX
1998 Lexus GS 400
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1999 Toyota Corolla LE
1995 Volvo 850 T-5R
2002 Chevrolet Corvette z06
With that said... I would like to say I own an
import, one that was actually brought over on a boat from
another nation. (honda/toyota
factories are in America.) I enjoy the eye-candy that is
several imported cars. I enjoy the company of import
enthusiasts. I can name off a pretty long list of Foreign, and
even Japanese cars that Ilike. The Toyota Supra TT is
undisputably a beast. The Nissan Skyline R33 GTR is something
id like to give a drive. Turbo honda's for as much as I will
rant about their extraordinary expenses later, will give many
people a run. For autocrossing, nothing can even come close to
touching the AE86 corolla, or Nissan sylvia copies. For what
they lack in power and straight line speed, as i will rant
about later, they can lose their rear ends due to being rear
wheel driven, and effectively maintain speeds drifting thru
corners and wide turns. However... For street racing, drag
racing, and any kind of fun on a daily basis, you are going to
come face to face with certain issues, issues which - when
presented - make even the most avid FWD enthusiast wonder...
There are many fast Foreign and Domestic cars
on the road and there are many different Ways to measure their
performance... Most Automobile owners have their own Ideas on
what makes a car fast. There’s
basically 4 different types.
-Some People Prefer Top speed over all other
-Some people want a Car that can Run 1/4 or 1/8
of a mile quickest.
-Some people think that Stability and cornering
are most important...
+Most Production cars are a mix of all three
and enthusiasts can modify their own cars to bring out
whatever of these factors they prefer.
-The last kind of Car owner (which is usually
not an owner, but someone who's car is in their parent's name)
ignores all performance preferences and Tries to LOOK or SOUND
like one or more kind of performance car, with a wide arsenal
of stickers and more than 1 in-car television. This type of
person has been labeled as a Ricer Or
Some Simple Facts -
1. NOS is an
acronym that means NEW OLD STOCK. Nitrous Oxide Systems is a
trademarked name and is not a definition.
(See Also : Zex, Nitrous Express, Edelbrock.)
The best way to simply explain this is that you
cannot put a Systems in your car,
nor can you put a Company into your car, therefore you can't
put NOS in your car. (but for
conversation amongst people with a clue, we can accept it as
2. Wings Create as
much as or more Drag than downforce.
if this was not the case
Indycars would have HUGE
Sprintcar type wings on them.
Wings, while creating downforce,
also force air upward, and prevent it from filling the
vaccum created behind the car by
the cars own movement. This vaccum
sucks the car backward and is detrimental to performance.
Anyway, whats the point of
downforce over the rear wheels of
a front wheel driven car?
3. Clear markers and taillights are illegal in
all 50 states. They do nothing more than attract attention.
The attention attracted is more often that of the police than
anything else... Coupled with a wing, your car is now
attracting so much police attention, its
not likely your getting out of your 8 mph over ticket.
4. Performance Chips, Headers, Cat back Exhaust
systems and Cold Air intakes are all designed to work together
as a package not seperatly. A Cold
Air Intake will make almost no performance gains on a Stock
car, other than a neat sound. In other words... such simple
little tweaks and tunes make so little of a difference by
themselves, they are worthless without accompanying parts.
Especially on a car that is already plagued with a small
5. Larger engines make more power than smaller
engines. Period. Even the import
Drag racers run strokers. If they
could make more power with a smaller engine this would not be
the case. An engine runs on an incredibly simple principle -
it burns fuel. The more fuel it gets the more power it
makes... are you still with me? Fuel doesn't burn by itself,
it needs oxygen. (air) So
acknowledging that adding fuel makes more power - realize that
a proportionally larger amount of air must also enter the
cylinder for it to burn properly. Smaller Engines will hit a
wall when they can no longer get enough air into their small
cylinders to burn a large amount of fuel. Even with a turbo
or nitrous - over a certain point, the jig is up.
A larger engine can fit more air into itself,
and with it, more fuel... therefore it will make more power...
Imagine a regular motor, now envision a titanic motor the size
of a blimp... would the bigger motor be more powerful?
although the size difference is not
as dramatic, that is a factor. If you can put a turbocharger
on a 4 cylinder to boost it up to 8 cylinder power - what
happens when you put a turbo on an 8 cylinder? Well I know of
at least one 427 Ford running Dual Y2k turbochargers
approaching 4000 horsepower running 5's on a tube frame
mustang chassis. The budget on this was not incredible or
even sponsored, it was privately
built and owned by a Ford enthusiast I happened to have met in
What I have just said is not theoretical, it is
the simple case, outside of the sanctioned import classes that
are simply made as a harbor for the imports to play in, funny
cars and professional tube frame race cars, without limitation
- who only seek the fastest most powerful cars regardless of
make or model, all use big bore, large displacement V8
engines. To make V8 power, you burn V8 fuel, no matter what
most people say about racing
hondas for economy
purposes... Hondas get great fuel economy BECAUSE, and only
BECAUSE they have no power and are slow - to make them fast
and give them lots of power, is to take away their fuel saving
properties... so fast cars all burn mega-amounts of fuel, get
used to that.
Facts that some need to be reminded of more
1. 90% (at least) of Skylines are Boring SLOW
commuter cars. The GTR is the only fast model…
2. Skyline GTR's
have 280hp stock, weigh 3800lbs and runs high 13’s in the 1/4
mile. This is a very respectable ET for a car of its size and
3. Most Toyota Supra's
aren't Twin Turbo.
4. 50% of the twin turbo
Supras Are Automatic.
5. Twin Turbo Supras
run 13.60s stock, this is an awesome achievement for this car…
but is easily tagged and surpassed by domestic pony cars
costing on average 20,000 dollars less…
6. Skyline GTRs
cost $90,000 to bring to the US (approximately) and are not
legal for use on US roads.
7. 1,000hp skylines usually have
$15,000-$20,000 in modifications and are usually NOT
Legal for use on Streets in USA,
JAPAN, or anywhere else in the world...
8. Supra TT 6speed cars Cost $60,000 and your
insurance will cost as much as your car payments.
9. 1,000hp Supras
have $15,000-$20,000 in
mods, see number 7 for details.
10. 1,000hp cars get horrible mileage, in the
range of 2-4 mpg… 1,000hp cars cannot be driven on a day to
day basis. 1,000hp cars cannot be driven in poor weather.
1,000hp cars must run on race gas which can go for as much as
8 dollars a gallon, at 3 or 4 miles per gallon, just try to
get to the beach on 500 dollars. (this
list is epically long, assume a never ending list of problems
with a completely re-engineered automobile)
Using these points I have made
lets assume that a 1,000hp import
will cost you an absolute minimum of $50,000 if you found a
good deal on a used Supra and did all the work yourself.
When you are finished you will own a Garage
Hoarding Dust magnet that can only be driven about 3 months
out of the year. You will own a car that will either be
insured as stock(A $30,000 loss to
you if its ever stolen) or you will have insurance payments
approaching the payments on a new Ferrari or at least a really
This Awesome import will make you the envy of
every 12-25 year old delinquent in a 50 mile radius if your
home. 16 year old Import fans are the absolute bottom feeders
of the Automotive scene. They show
their appreciation of a car that is nicer than theirs by
Keying your paint, Slashing your tires, breaking windows and
stealing stereos or gauges, snapping off antennas, dumping
coke on hoods roofs and hatches knocking mirrors off, Stealing
badges etc. etc.
Now a Honda 4 cylinder motor, to make 500
horsepower, must run an incredible amount of boost, with all
forged, reinforced internals placed inside of an extensively
modified engine block, it will only run for a few minutes at a
time before warping, and can only make 500 horsepower while
running on race gas. (115-118 octane) This Honda motor by
itself outside of the car, will
cost nearly 20 thousand dollars. This motor will have average
lifespan of 6 months to one year, and will race horribly
compared to other engines with the same power due to the
properties of that engine. Honda’s running this motor will
not last either, as the civic’s
unibody design cannot take the
intense power of the motor, it will destroy the car quite
literally… sooner than later the rear and front wheels will
begin to point in different directions as the car twists and
warps, this car will not break 10 second quarter mile ET’s.
If somone wanted
to they could get a SOLID 650hp out of a 96
camaro with about $5,000 in
mods, installed at a shop... this
car could be driven year round. would
get mileage in the 13-15mpg range and run on pump gasoline.
With this car you will run the same or better times than the
Toyota or any of the FWD or 4 cylinder pack, due to often
misunderstood circumstances – whatever the case, it is a fact
that supra’s run poorly at the
track in relation to their phenomenal horsepower on paper,
however this is not the case with camaros
particularly. So with an investment of $8,000 a Domestic fan
could buy and put a car well into the 10s possibly 9s.
and have plenty of money left over
for Beer and pork Rinds... Again, not
theoreticaly, almost everybody in this world knows at
least 2 or 3 people with 500+ horsepower
smallblock fords or chevy’s.
How about them Import Compacts? -
How about em? A
Mustang GT runs out the door next year
with 290 horsepower and a Honda Civic runs out with a
raging 125... (EX only, most civics and all hatchbacks have a
less powerful D15 - 105 horsepower motor)
The mustang will run 13.4-13.8 second quarter
miles from the factory, whilst the other can look forward to
anywhere from 17.5-18.5 second quarter ET’s, making it
actually one of the slowest production cars currently made.
While one may weigh less than the other, it is
by no means enough to make up for that gross difference in
power. The sad truth is... even with most compact cars low
weight, their Domestic adversaries still have better
POWER/WEIGHT ratios. The purpose of what I just said was not
to claim that these vehicles are equal in price or class - but
what it does say is that some cars are simply built to do
certain things. The
honda will certainly get better fuel economy, if
that’s your bag. And the mustang will start out as, and
always be, the faster car, equal amounts of money and time
spent on both.
It's easy to be fooled or mislead in the world
of racing automobiles, and compacts have the advantage
of "picking fights" and street
racing everything in sight... The internet is strewn up and
down with videos of cars beating other cars…. Of course a
50,000 dollar super modified racing Honda will beat grandpa’s
corvette… A great one is a super-stock Toyota MR2 turbo racing
an old man taking his granddaughter out of a drive in his new
Porsche boxster… In others, they
beat some older 1980's mustangs claiming it to be a 5.0, when
in fact it is much more likely a 4 cylinder... how many of the
older, more mature corvette drivers were actually racing is
questionable however... Anybody who actually knows all angles
of the situation and really knows what’s going on with cars
from the transmission shift accumulators to the valve train -
will understand the truth behind most stories. The simple
reason we do not see as large an amount of v8 pony cars street
racing and beating Japanese imports, is that there is nothing
special about it – it is the norm, and incredibly common, why
not make a video of your drive to work. A 4 cylinder beating
a Camaro is an achievement, and is
documented by snot nosed teenagers who are out to try to prove
NOW THE 100,000 DOLLAR QUESTION -
Does making your 96
camaro faster than a civic make it better? NO!
Speed is not what makes a car... there are
MANY other factors. I would no more suggest buying a mustang
than a corolla without knowing what this person was looking
for in a car. I do not like speed. I like having no roof,
and for that matter no doors. If you want a solid dependable
car - get a Corolla. If you want a NEW quick zippy car at a
good price - Mustangs are becoming incredible buys... The 03
Mustang cobra is slated to have 390 horsepower and run low
12’s with little more than slick’s
– for something in the order of 32,000 – 35,000 dollars.
Nice cars are much, well…. nicer... regardless
of speed... I would much rather sit in some leather seats that
power adjust 13 different ways, with automatic a/c, power
windows, and a damn onboard computer to tell me the news, in
addition this car should be very heavy with a soft cloud-ride
suspension to absorb the road and make me feel like I’m
sitting in a hammock
Ever seen a Rap video with a
pullin up in his Honda? no?
how about his Corolla?
still no? what about that bad ass
mutha-what with a gold grill who
popped 3 cops and got away in his custom Ford Escort with
racing stripes and a big wing?
there is nothing pimp/powerful/romantic/special about these
compact cars... Dr. Dre and all of
them are always seen driving Mercedes, or "64's" old Domestic
V8 powered behemoths. When was the last time president Bush
asked to be escorted in a “hooked up” focus instead of his
Lincoln or Cadillac. Colin Powell
for a fact likes vintage Volvos.
That’s from a social
Standpoint, don’t make me bring safety or reliability
into this picture! All I'll say is when the shit hits the fan
I want to be in a 4,000 pound Crown Victoria not a Honda CRX.
And I SURELY hope you kids don’t expect that
custom riced civics will be
collectors items in 40 years as Mustangs and Corvettes are...
The way we know this, is that there are no 1973 Honda Civics
restored to glorious stock form, or pimped out - ready to roll
on their 20 inch wheels... not that such vehicles would be
worth anything at all even in such form. However people are
clamoring to get old muscle cars, GTO’s,
GSX’s, Demon’s, and Roadrunners to restore and rebuild
them, in a variety of tasteful ways. There is also a massive
sect of people who drive, and restore old 1960’s Lincolns and
Caprices, and a small and weird, but loyal group of those who
enjoy “Power-Wagons” I also see a good deal of Early 80's
mustangs in good shape, or restored already. Same goes for all
the F and A-Bodies. That legacy is continuing.
It is also worth pointing out these cars are
worth an incredible amount more when restored to, or kept in
original factory trim. To have the original engine with its
OEM parts is far preferable to an aftermarket or performance
version. These cars are most appreciated when restored or
maintained in their beautiful original forms – which is to say
they are truly great cars.
Older (1920) fords and Chryslers get full
custom rebuilds, with extensively modified or redesigned
custom quarter panels and fenders, re-designed interior with a
new everything. Hundreds of Thousands of dollars in work, not
to mention sweat and tears.
To hear a car with clear tail lights and seat
covers called custom almost hurts... nothing is custom - these
parts (Spoiler/taillights/headlights/steering wheel/pedals)
were bought at a store, nothing is actually custom, nothing is
custom built to the owners specifications… they are just bolt
on parts, bought as seen, no more custom than the original
bolt on tail lights from the factory.
But why modify it? I hear those who say that
the Honda Civic is a great car because there
is so many aftermarket parts on the
market for it. That indicates to me that it is an awful car,
and that you don’t like it… If it is good, why must you change
it? I like my car the way it came from the factory, that is
to say I like the car. To say you like a car but would change
this, that, and that, until the car looks nothing like it did
originally, is to say that you really don’t like the car!
Find a car you do like!
One argument I hear for why Import Compacts
are superior, and last longer, is that they are all nice and
new, and the old "rustangs" and
camaros, along with a WIDE
selection of older
american cars - are old, rusty, and in poor
condition... WELL my friends, the reason you don’t see Imports
in old, rusty, poor condition is that they have not
survived... the Civic (introduced in 1973) outsold the mustang
all thru the 70's and 80's but the oldest civic I remember
ever seeing is an 85... and even
that was a one time occurrence. Old
american V8 monsters may be
old and rusty... but they are STILL HERE, and that alone is a
testament to their longevity. In the REAL long run, 1914
Fords are still around, my neighbor has one. Mr. Honda was
not yet born at that time... So it is IMPOSSIBLE to say
Honda's last longer... they haven’t been around long enough to
prove it - simple concept, isn’t it?
Another even more ridiculous excuse import
owners use, is to say they are
slower than you – but that their car is a 4 door, or that
their car only has 4 cylinders, or that they are quick for an
economy car… this is absolutely absurd. They were not issued
an economy car by the government… they were not forced to get
a car with 4 doors – they chose to – and could just as easily
have chosen to buy a Camaro SS.
Even if they were issued these cars by the government in some
strange parallel universe which would have to be narrated by
Orson Wells, I am ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that their parents (or
the gov.) did not force them to
then waste every pay check modifying and tuning this car they
didn’t want, if they cannot admit responsibility for anything
else, than for this they must. The fact is, that there is no
“fast for a 4 cylinder” or “fast
for a Japanese car” - they are slow, bottom line. What crap
is being told “you have a bigger motor than me”
well why don’t you? No excuse, sorry… you picked the
slower car, now play the slower role.
There is nothing wrong with a 4 cylinder
corolla having 4 doors – having such a car is fine with me,
its good on gas, room enough for a cooler, and left unmodified
it will run almost forever… The problem comes when someone
with such a car tries to make it fast, and tries to make it
compete with cars outside of its class, and uses that excuse
when he inevitably fails. It is not fast for an economy car…
it is simply not fast.
Any problems with what has been expressed here
can be taken up