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Mike York Interview
by Justin Girard
Transworld Skateboarding July 24, 1999
There are only
two serious questions in skateboarding: "How high can you ollie?"
and "Are you sponsored?" The kids want to know. In the history
of Pro Spotlights, the above questions are rarely (if ever) asked, because,
at that point in a skateboarding career, the answers to those questions
are a given. Imagine if this magazine only asked those two questions, page
after page, followed by such brilliant responses as: "High enough"
and "Yes."
Mike York has more to say than that. So maybe the "serious"
questions are not the best ones to ask. Mike's only been a professional
skateboarder for one year–he'll do more interviews over the span of his
career, but this will always remain his first.
It begins like this: "Are you nervous, Mike?"
It ends like this: "Keep on skating."–Aaron Meza
Justin Girard: Are you nervous, Mike?
Mike York: Yeah, my cast is sweatin' right now.
J: I want to know what it was like growing up around so many famous
skateboarders?
M: It was good. It made me push myself harder, because I would see all
these dudes skating rad at Embarcadero. They were putting in work, not
filming or anything, just getting down. It made me want to get down, too.
J: Was it weird being in the limelight?
M: I didn't even know I was. I would go to Embarcadero, because it was a fun place to skateboard, and people would give me shit. They'd say, "Oh,
you don't skate anywhere else." But I would have a full day of skateboarding
there, just getting loose with everybody. I don't know, it was pretty normal
to me.
J: Do you find that skateboarding has become not just the athletic part
of your life, but an emotional thing, too?
M: Yeah, right now it definitely is. That's probably why some kids watch
me skate–to see me get mad, and stress, and yell. I get upset, because
that's how much I love skateboarding–I want that feeling of landing that
trick.
J: How do you deal with the pressure of being a professional?
M: If I'm skating with my friends, I don't really worry about it; I just
try to learn tricks. Sometimes, when I go to a new skate spot, there will
be locs I've seen in videos skating that spot, and sometimes I'll feel
weird, like, "Oh, I have to skate at a certain level because I'm on
this company." But really, I'm here because of what I've been doing,
so I'm just gonna keep doing it.
J: Does it make you more self-conscious if people are around?
M: Not really, it's all just skateboarding. Once I really start getting
into skating, I forget everything else around me.
J: But it gets harder when you think about it too much.
M: Yeah, I've definitely been in those situations, but you've just got
to deal with it.
J: Do you think about skating all the time?
M: It's in most of my thoughts. If I'm driving around in a car, I look
for skate spots. I even catch myself fingerboarding on the edge of the
table. I'm sure I'm not the only one like that, though.
J: When did you first get sponsored?
M: Well, the first sponsor that gave me free things was Real Skateboards.
Before that, I was getting New School boards for twenty bucks from my friends around my house.
J: You didn't grow up in San Francisco, so how did you know to come
to San Francisco to skate?
M: When I first started,
I was just skating around my house [in Albany–a city located north of Oakland
on the San Francisco Bay]. There was a BART [Bay Area Rapid Transit] station
that had a big parking lot with a bunch of red curbs. So, you know, we
watched the videos–at that time Tom Knox was skating double-sided curbs
really good in the Speed Freaks video. So we would try to learn
all the tricks. One of my friends was better than the rest of us–there
were three of us–he was more advanced, and he'd been around for a while.
He was like, "We need to go out to San Francisco. I know this skate
spot where all the skaters hang out." We went to Embarcadero, and
I was amazed at how rad it was–the energy I felt from all the skaters,
everything. It made me keep going back. I could barely skate [when I started
going to Embarcadero], and I pretty much learned how to skate there.
It's a funny thing how people become locals at a spot because they're
so closely hooked up with a group of friends.
J: So it really wasn't the famous Embarcadero when you first started going there?
M: No way! At that point it was nothing. It had only been in one video–Animal
Chin. When I went there, I saw locals I thought could've been pros.
I looked at them as pros, because they were older than me and were rad
skaters. As I got older, I started seeing a lot of them get sponsored.
Then, some of my friends who were my age started getting sponsored. All
of a sudden it was becoming Embarcadero, EMB, this new thing. The magazines
and videos started getting with it. Mike Carroll helped make Embarcadero
what it became with his part in the Plan B video [Questionable Video],
rippin' it up.
J: There was a while there when people at Embarcadero were skating so
hard and pushing the whole sport.
M: Yeah, I am definitely proud to have been a part of that. A lot of rad
skaters would have quit because of the police, or maybe they didn't have
sponsors, or whatever, but that place kept them skating. Eventually, a
lot of them had to quit skating, they had to go on with their lives and
everything. It's cool. But that place has some of the best memories for
me.
J: Did you ever hear of Officer Squirrel?
M: Officer Squirrel? Who's that?
J: James Kelch used to tell me a story about a cop they called Officer
Squirrel who was so infatuated with busting skateboarders, he would hide
in the trees at Embarcadero, jump out, and chase after them.
M: I don't know about him, but I knew the Terminator 2. He'd run after
you and wouldn't give up the chase. You'd have to run so far. And
I remember Walrus Man–this big cop who looked like a walrus and never caught
anybody. Those are the only cops I remember.
J: Do you remember how everyone had nicknames at Embarcadero?
M: Yeah, that was the funniest stuff.
J: You ever have a nickname?
M: Little Mike.
J: Whatever happened to Little Nick? Is he Nick now?
M: He's Medium Nick. He's pretty big now.
J: Did getting sponsored change your attitude toward skateboarding in
general?
M: Yeah, sure. When I first started skating, I didn't need to understand
that I was riding Lance Mountain's [pro-model] skateboard. I didn't even
know Lance Mountain was a person, I just thought that was the name of the
board. I was so clueless and young back then. Later, I started understanding
the deal. Of course, I wanted to be sponsored, but I never let it eat me
up. So, being around Embarcadero, having people there who were already
sponsored helping me get sponsored, just made me want to be more focused
and serious about what I was doing.
I'd get to Embarcadero around 11:30 in the morning, and James Kelch
would already be there, shirt off, sweatin', rippin'. I'd be so
stoked to see that.
J: What did you think when there was that mass migration of skateboarders
coming from everywhere to Embarcadero?
M: Kids were sleeping and camping-out
there.
I was tripping out. I know a few pros who slept there–pros kids love
now. It just tripped me out to see those dudes do that. I had to spend
the night there one time with some of my friends after missing the BART
train. I think it's pretty weird, though, that they would want to sleep
there. It's not that comfortable. It's cold.
J: Moist and cold.
M: Yeah, you don't want to sleep outside in San Francisco.
Especially not in wintertime.
J: Back then, was there anyone in particular
who influenced you?
M: Oh man, it was hard for me back then, because there were only a handful
of streetskater pros. Gonz, Natas, Jim [Thiebaud], Tommy [Guerrero], and
both the Carrolls [Mike and Greg] used to come down. Everyone who skated
there was my favorite back then. It was incredible that not only were those
guys spectacular athletes but really cool people, too. I'm glad I got the
opportunity to meet them through skateboarding. The old-school Embarcadero
crew–those are the boys.
J: What ever happened to Bobcat?
M: He moved somewhere.
J: Bobcat, that's another Embarcadero nickname.
M: Yeah, Bobcat, that kid used to be so good. John Loue, that kid
gets props. What's up, John? Wherever you're at, I hope you kept on skating,
and "Hello, how are you doing?" That kid used to get loose. He
was good 'til the day he left.
J: Do you remember any of the crazy fights that used to go on there?
M: Yeah, I've seen wild stuff there. That was definitely a funny place.
J: Funny place to grow up.
M: Hell yeah.
J: Have you ever skated in New York City?
M: Yeah.
J: What do you think about the comparison of skateable obstacles between
San Francisco and New York?
M: New York's fun, it's real flat and spread out. In San Francisco, you
don't have to push as much, because there're hills. I like the spots in
New York, because you hit them real quick, and then you keep on pushing.
It's more like you're sessioning the city. Here [in S.F.], the cops kick
you out of spots so quickly, you find yourself pretty much skating wherever
you can.
J: Do you find spots here getting old?
M: Yeah, just because I've been skating here for a long time. I can honestly
look at blocks and go, "I remember when I used to do backside grabs
off that block, then I did railslides, then it was noseslides, now I'm
doing nosegrinds." You know what I mean? I've been skating the same
blocks for so long, I've gone through all these stages on them. But it's
cool.
J: Does music affect your mood when you're skating?
M: Yeah, totally. If I hear a new tape, and maybe there's a song or someone's
lyrics on it I like, I'll keep that in my head. So when I'm skating, that
song will give me extra energy.
J: Do you like hip-hop the most?
M: Yeah, cause that's what I get down with the most. A lot of my friends do, too. I don't just hear them [rappers] cussing, I hear what they're
talking about; I respect how they make beats and all that. I like other
music, too–all sorts of other music–but hip-hop is probably the biggest
part of my collection of music.
J: Was hip-hop popular in your neighborhood when you were growing up?
M: Yeah, it was. That's probably what got me into it, too. I was the only
white kid in school, so it was kind of hard for me, but the other kids
didn't trip. We didn't have a lot of money when I was younger.
J: What's your hometown?
M: Albany, California.
J: Where you born there?
M: Nah, I was born in Manhattan, New York, and my parents didn't want me to grow up in a bad neighborhood, so we moved to Oakland [laughs]. They
didn't know any better. They thought California was all palm trees, so,
"Hey, let's move to Oakland!" We lived in the worst neighborhoods
in the Bay Area for a while. We moved from Oakland to a bad part of Berkeley, to Ridgemont, to El Cerrito. We finally got to Albany when I was a little
older. It's a lot nicer there.
J: What do your parents do?
M: Well, my mother cuts hair, and my father used to sell shoes–which was
hard for him, but we got by. My mother owns a hair salon now, with her
partner.
J: Do you have a close relationship with your parents?
M: Yeah, especially with my mother, because my father passed away not too
long ago. We deal with it, though–my mom and I are definitely strong. We've
been strong this whole time; we give each other a lot of support. She's
supported my skateboarding from day one. When I would come home with cuts,
or whatever, she wouldn't stress on me.
J: How old were you when your father passed away?
M: It happened this year. It was hard, because he was really sick before he died, and the process was kind of slow.
J: Do you mind talking about it?
M: No, not at all. I don't really want to go over and over it, but it's
cool, because I'm here, and he's a part of me. He made me, and I see him
in me more and more.
J: Did your dad's death change your view of life?
M: In a way, yeah. It taught me that you've got to learn to let things
go–that's the key to life. If you let things eat you up inside, you're
not going to get anywhere. Whether it be someone dying, or you're girlfriend
leaving you, or whatever, you just have to deal with what's going on.
J: Did you have a bond with your father?
M: Yeah. We were on sketchy terms for a while–he was doing his thing and
I was doing mine. Before he passed away, we had a really close talk–we
hadn't talked for a long time–then I went to L.A. for a trade show. That
was the last time I saw him. When I got to L.A., I heard the news. I had
to come home, my mom was crying on the phone; it was hard.
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