Introduction
This paper is comprised of astrology for winning the national elections in the United States in 2016. As an update with a change of hypothesis on the best chart to use to show the winner, it shows that entirely consistent and highly specific results occur in the 8th chart, also known as the harmonic chart for the 8th house in charts of winners and loser in elections.

It looked, in the last paper, like the results were entirely consistent and the prediction was still wrong. How do I know that this one is any better? I know because the specifications for winning and losing in the earlier paper were sometimes even based on one or two small astrological conditions, varying from individual to individual. Here, however, the specifications are far more complex and the same for each individual, and the same for all the surrogates in both winner and loser categories, that is, they fall into mutually distinct classes. Those results are much harder to arrive at by accident, or even by unconscious preference of one candidate over the other.

It is likely the latter—unconscious bias—which influenced my interpretation of the astrology of the 3rd chart in the first paper, creating an incorrect prediction. As stated, my specifications in that paper were not rigorous enough. It is also true that such errors occur commonly in science. That is why double blind studies came into existence—in an effort to eliminate, as much as possible, the conscious and unconscious bias of the individuals involved in the study.

The premise of both papers is that the winner always has the better astrology and that it specifically shows by timing in that chart. Here that premise is expanded to state that in the 8th chart the winner (and all his/her surrogates) shows a golden benefic, or its sum, in election results. And that the loser, and his/her surrogates, shows a dark malefic, or its sum, in their election day astrology. What constitutes “better” as well as “timing” is discussed further below along with comments on the meaning of the 8th chart.

Below results presented are those of the 8th chart for November 9, 2:00 a.m. EST (see note below on date and time used for "election day").

Why that chart? The 8th chart is a harmonic development of the 8th house in traditional astrology. That house has dominion over shared assets and values, so it plays a prominent part in the success (or failure) of marriages. And because marriage is an attempt on the part of two individuals to “become one,” the 8th house is correlated with transformations of all kinds.

The 8th house also has a distinct role in commonly held finances, such as stocks and bonds. In this role it clearly shows how the behavior of a high number of individuals affects the income of each individual, yet none of it is entirely predictable beforehand.

So it is not difficult to see the correlation of a benefic 8th chart with candidates winning an election. The winner has achieved a form of “we”--shared values--with a large number of followers and been awarded office to represent them. The loser failed to achieve that status.

As occurred in the earlier paper, here it is still believed, and proven, that the family and surrogates of each candidate will have election astrology which matches in kind the astrology of their candidate. Therefore, when their candidate wins, they, too, win. And vice versa for the loser..

This study includes both candidates, a few of their family members, and a larger number of their surrogates—36 in all, with 15 in the Trump camp and 21 in the Clinton camp (the latter were easier to find birth data on). It includes not only other politicians, but politicians in other countries, movie stars and other socially prominent individuals such as news commentators and the Pope.. I would have included the chart of some one in my own family—an ardent Trump supporter—but lost his data in 2002. My personal results are shown but not counted in the tally.

The stupendous advantage of this approach to election astrology is that astrologers using this method no longer have to have the correct birth data on either candidate. It would be good if they did, but not necessary. They just have to have correct birth data on several (preferably at least three) of their family and/or surrogates. Any piece of the electorate—as long as those individuals have strong preferences for one of the candidates—can be used to see the results for their fellow voters as well as who won.

From that it follows that it is possible to know the results of the 2020 election. We do not now (October 2018) know who the Democratic candidate will be. Unless he is forcibly removed from office before 2020, Trump will be the Republican one. Below I explain why I think Trump lacks the astrology for something as traumatic--from the point of view of the president--as being impeached and removed from office. I am not so certain about application of the 25th Amendment as I have no examples but believe it, too, would demand long-term difficult astrology that Trump lacks. Even if he does not run, and even if a few of the individuals have changed their preferences or even died, we can look at general astrology for well-known Democrats and Republicans that will deliver the result by party. Certainly if Trump runs and wins, some of the anti-Trump people will show unpleasant loss. I have done that research with enough examples to rule out too hasty a conclusion. I am working on writing that paper now. SORRY, but I have been too unwell to do the amount of work involved in writing this paper. As soon as I am able, I will write and post the paper.

[It is now January 2020 and Trump has been impeached by the House of Representatives and is now in trial by the Senate. I stick to my earlier statement that Trump lacks the long-term negative influence that would go with--not impeachment--but removal from office. Nixon had it. Clinton had one, too, but his turned out to flow from his being acquitted by the senate and becoming symbolic of his heart trouble (see heart paper at https://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/heart.html) and surgery. It was a very very slow progression to his mercury, ruler of both B MC and B Asc. SA fate like being forcibly removed from office, especially by someone like Trump, should show very negative, slow-moving saturnian astrology symbolic of a long-term downturn in social prestige and charisma. I don't see it. His apparent center of gravity chart (COG) is looking more and more like his 2nd chart, the one that reflects his interest in possessions and money. It is also one of his two most benefic charts. Since his election it has been undergoing progressions of both harmonic saturns to Angles, reflective of the considerable difficulty and conflict engendered by his tenure. But within a month or several at most, both of those will have passed beyond Angles. So they hardly seem reflective of the long-term shame of being removed from office. What Trump does have that must somehow be playing into his present fate is he has mars ruling both 4th house cusps. B mars in Leo is in b 12th/c 7th houses (simultaneously). It is a classic set that is part of the astrology for being attacked (mars/12th) by others (7th), with progressed B Asc lighting from Scorpio by square and p c sun lighting it from Taurus (all around 2 degrees of their sign). With the right astrology, it could end his life--something that would explain why he has no long term Angle/saturns for removal from office. It may--we have not enough examples to research this--also represent his experience of some of the members of his "own" party turning on him and declaring to be FOR allowing more witnesses and documents in the present senate trial. But if that were to happen, it would suggest he is at least found guilty if not removed from office, and as stated, he lacks the long-term Angle/saturn for that long-term loss of prestige. Maybe he will successfully refuse to leave office even if convicted? It is worth keeping in mind that the mars rules a 4th house and Trump is in his 70s, so, in the end years of his life. As such it can represent an end-of-life set, but it may also represent a painful incident that occurs in the latter years of his life. I look forward to arriving at a clearer understanding of this part of his astrology.]

When the 2020 election paper is posted it will be with the following link: The U.S. Presidential Election for 2020

Another huge advantage is that this form of election astrology can be used, checked, and considered in all elections of the past, in any current, and in all future elections.

One drawback of this approach is that we do not always know where the candidate (or surrogate or family) is at the time his return occurs, or even where he will be when the election is decided. That means we cannot know the correct Angles for their return prior to the election. We will still know their birth and conception Angles as well as their progressions. But, as is shown below, sometimes the Angles of the return are key in picking up the decisive set. When unable to make a reasonable guess, I have used place of birth for casting returns.

Another drawback occurs when the surrogate is also either a candidate herself, or is in office and has endorsed more than one candidate in more than one race, not an unlikely event. Mayor of New York City, Bill de Blasio, likely belonged in this category. So did David Duke, who lost his bid for the senate, but his candidate, Trump, won. Results for individuals like this can be confusing and so they are not good to use as surrogates.

A drawback for the 2020 election prediction being done in early 2018 is that any one of the subjects could have died or switched political allegiances. But there will be enough examples for both parties that such occurrences will not obscure the correct conclusion.

The number of surrogates available, however, for presidential elections, reduces those drawbacks to insignificant.

Those not interested in the actual astrology for each individual can search for “tally” and arrive at a table below showing election results, followed by the Discussion Those who want to see the consistency of results for the 8th chart need to read the whole paper. They are impressive.

Here is the note on the date and time of the election. Election day 2016 falls on Tuesday, November 8. Since it is usually early the next day when we have a projected winner, I used 2:00 a.m. EST on November 9 as the date and time to look at all the astrology, including transits (position of planets in the sky at the time). For the purposes of this paper, that is "election day." Aside from the Bush v. Gore contest (which, as a matter of fact, did not show a winner until December of that year), results of most elections are known by 2 a.m. on election day + one. It is all right from the point of view of the astrology if the results are actually known a few hours earlier.

Before going any further, below are comments on the nature of this very different form of astrology.

Astrological Method
This method is not traditional. It uses birth and conception planets and their harmonics and houses, all of which share the same axis:

This astrology uses the sidereal positions of the planets based on the Fagan-Bradley’s SVP. Here is the link to the paper which discusses the practical differences between sidereal (Eastern) and tropical (Western) zodiacs: Paper on Tropical vs. Sidereal Astrology/

Harmonics are taken from the sidereal position of the planets. The Egyptian harmonic, discussed in the paper “About This Method” (link below), is used.

”Lights” include suns, moons, and moons nodes. When mercury rules one or two Angles, it also acts like a light and has the same orb as the other lights. The MC or Asc also acts like a light, but one with only a 2° orb, because when a set is on an Angle it does not need a light to be active.

This method uses only conjunctions, applying and separating squares, and oppositions. Orbs for static planets with lights is about 2.5° ; without lights, about 1°. Orb for MC/planet or Asc/planet is 2° in the static, pre=progressed chart and 1 degree or less in the progressed chart. Planets so related to each other are referred to as in the same “set.” A set, then, is two or more planets (or an Angle) connected to each other through conjunction, square, and opposition within the defined orbs. Sets without Angles are more active when they contain a light, and less active without one. Learning to look in terms of “crosses” can be helpful in rapidly finding planets that are in the same set.

The reason the word "about" is used in defining acceptable orbs in the paragraph above is that this method is so much different than other methods. For one thing, it has many more lights (suns, moons, and moon's nodes). They include birth and conception planets and their harmonics (for each harmonic chart) and their progressions. As well, lights in current returns function the same as the birth/conception lights for as long as the return lasts (40 days). Here I am having to introduce a change from past working rules discussed in the paper on "Chartrules." It lists larger orbs than those above which with less experienced astrologers end up creating too large, not valid sets. As well, orbs have to be changed in all previous papers. This is because when there is more than one light in a set, orbs are extended a little bit more than stated above.

Further, in terms of interactions with others, we can and do unconsciously, without effort, temporarily "borrow" the lights of others in our immediate environment. This is especially true, for instance, in long-term relationships such as occurs with parents, siblings, marriage partners, and long-term bosses and friends. Within those relationships planets--ones without lights in our own charts and therefore expressing little--pick up excitation from the suns, moons, and nodes of those other individuals and we start experiencing their expression in ourselves. We live in an ocean of energy, including each other's, and that is symbolically represented by such "borrowing" of the lights (consciousness, which is a form of energy) of others.

Stating fixed and inelastic orbs is also endlessly complicated by the fact that most of the charts used here and in the work of all astrologers are not rectified so that we are not absolutely sure time of birth is correct. If it is off by only four minutes, Midheavens are off by approximately one whole degree, and that affects reliability of orbs with lights when only 1 to 3 degrees is the allowable orb.

So "acceptable orbs" is a very dynamic process. I am still learning something about them. Yet, with 33 years’ experience with research with this method, I state unequivocally that when it comes to relationships between planets, "closer is always stronger" and keeping orbs stringent is not only important, it is the way things work empirically. Doing that "reasonably" with this method so different than standard astrology can only really be accomplished through increasing experience with the method for each astrologer. That takes time and much work, usually research.

Because this approach uses both a birth and conception chart and they share the same axis, birth houses usually overlap different houses of the conception chart. These are called “house overlaps.” I did not discuss them in this paper, but they can be significant. The convention used when writing about house overlaps is to put the birth house first, then the conception house. So, for instance, a “5th/1st” overlap refers to an overlap of birth 5th house with conception 1st house in that order.

Birth planets (including their harmonics) rule only birth houses. Conception planets (including their harmonics) rule only conception houses.

For a more thorough explanation of this astrological approach, refer to the following papers:

About This Method

Empirically-Derived Rules for Reading These Charts

Because returns prior to the event in question play such a vital part in assessing the outcome, more should be said about them.

This method uses a return that occurs every time the sun in the sky reaches exactly 40° 00’ 00” from the individual’s birth sun, then 40° 00’ 00” from that sun, then 40° 00’ 00” more from that sun. This results in nine (harmonic) solar returns per year per individual throughout his lifetime. The harmonic involved is the ninth, which is the harmonic used to develop the 7th chart. Their Angles (Midheaven and Ascendant) and their planets relative to the individual’s birth, conception and progressed planets have proven invaluable. All work together to demonstrate the astrology of an event.

The difficulty of doing returns for elections is that most of the time it is unknowable where individuals were for the return covering the election. Therefore, very few return Angles can be used in evaluating results. That is a loss, because return Angles are just as important as progressed ones. For instance, I resorted to using Paul Ryan's return Angles to come to conclusion. But where Paul Ryan lives, and where he will likely be during the election, is a well-known fact--Janesville, WI. For all the other individuals in this paper, every part of the return, other than the Angles, is usable no matter where each individual was. In those cases, the return was done for the place of birth.

Only planets falling within 2° of return Angles are valid. Any planets in the return which fall within 1° of the individual’s birth, conception, progressed birth, and progressed conception Angles are also effective. Houses within returns are not interpreted. Whatever falls on Angles and into sets with lights (return, birth, conception, and progressed) are primary.

Each candidate has one harmonic solar return prior to the election which is in effect for the date of the election. Each will also have different returns occurring prior to the inauguration. I did check inauguration astrology for Trump and Clinton, but have not included it in this paper. Inauguration results were consistent with election results.

So, how with this method do we judge what, actually, is “winning” (and losing) 8th chart astrology?

The Significators For Winning and Losing Events
There are two planets which sponsor much of our bad fortune—physically, mentally, and materially, depending on which chart they fall in and which houses they influence.

And two different planets sponsor much of our success, joy, and good fortune.

The planetary authors of most of our good feelings arevenus and jupiter, known to traditional astrology as the lesser and greater benefics, respectively.

• venus represents the principles of love, connectedness, appreciation, responsiveness, emotional victory. People with moon and venuson or influencing an Angle, like John F. Kennedy, have immense charm.

• jupiter represents the principles of ease, growth, expansion, easiness, comprehensiveness. It is the planet, when forefront in the chart, that sponsors a high “emotional quotient.” Prominent it, more than any other planet, sponsors success, recognition, good timing, self-confidence. It also helps protect against disease and disaster, ameliorating conditions if not outright denying them.

Venus andjupitertogether with a light (sun, moon, or moon's node) on or influencing an Angle, create a golden benefic. Golden benefics are in evidence in almost all instances of success, winning, joy, in all areas of human experience.

The planetary authors of many of our difficult feelings and experiences aremarsand saturn, known to traditional astrology as the lesser and greater malefics, respectively.

• mars represents friction, fevers, tearing, strife, combativeness, martial. People with marson an Angle, that is, forefront in their psyche, either use these qualities in their life or get used by them. If their charts are basically benevolent, they may be, for instance, successful athletes. If not, mars’ predominance turns harsher and brings in accidents, aggression, pain.

• saturnrepresents darkness, dryness, voids, lack of self-confidence, isolation, depression, and other such “anti-charismatic” qualities. In descending the planetary "Tree of Life" (Search for "Tree of Life" in paper on autism) of incarnating, each being starts his process of becoming an individual human being at saturn. At that point he still lacks the planets of personality, found further down the Tree, needed in order to perceive and act as a person. So, forefront and predominant in chartssaturnsponsors levels of existence primarily devoid of most of the pleasures and meaning of existence. Therefore when it shows up prominent in an event like an election, it represents shrinking of the personality, i.e., loss.

From the above discussion, it should now be clear how we are going to identify the winners and losers of the election:

Those individuals with light/venus/jupiter, usually forefront (ruling an Angle) in the 8th chart belong in the winner’s camp. Sometimes they are not all in the same set and must be “summed.” Other benefic set will occur, but the existence of this “golden benefic” is usually prominent among winners.

Below I show more of their election astrology for the candidates themselves and those individuals whose deciding astrology must be summed than either their family or “surrogates. Sometimes if there is a golden benefic or dark malefic, only they are shown as sufficient evidence that they dominate the astrology at the time.

To make the prevalence of these two sets of planets more obvious in their astrology for election day, throughout this paper I have coded venus and jupiter in maroon, while mars and saturn are coded red.

Charts Used
This election uses only the election day results of each individual’s 8th chart. Its meaning is discussed above, in the Introduction.

Here is a reminder of conventions used in this astrological method:

In the partial charts shown below, birth planets and their harmonics are inside the circle. Conception planets and their harmonics are outside the circle. Conception sidereal planets are red; conception harmonic ones, black. Birth sidereal planets are blue; birth harmonic ones, green. Occasionally, because of space limitations, I have had to violate this inside/outside arrangement, but the color coding remains constant.

Abbreviations used below are b = birth, c = conception, and t = transiting. MC = Midheaven. Asc = Ascendant. B-Loc MC, for instance, stands for the birth Midheaven for a given locality. And pB-Loc MC, for instance, represents a progressed birth Midheaven for a given date and place. Even though the harmonic used for each chart is always two more than the chart’s number, in these papers—for ease of reading—I write the harmonic number the same as the chart number. For example, the 5th chart uses the 7th harmonic, but to avoid worse confusion I have established the convention of writing harmonic planets for the 5th chart as, e.g., c5 mars which reads, “the harmonic for the 5th chart for conception mars.” Something like “pc10 venus” is translated the harmonic of progressed conceptionvenusfor the 10th chart, while “t7 venus” stands for the harmonic of transiting venus for the 7th chart.

Worth repeating: the acceptable orb for progression of a planet to an Angle and vice versa is no more than 1°. If it is with a light, orb is extended by about one-half degree. Return Angles, however, have an allowable orb of 2°, with 2° being the weakest acceptable.

All of the individuals are well-known, so biographical information is kept to a bare minimum.

THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTAL ASTROLOGY
Donald J. Trump, real estate magnate and billionaire, is running for the presidency of the United States. I have written more on his chart than others because of his rather unorthodox approach to being a candidate.

Donald J. Trump
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Donald Trump Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—19Sco2—c12--9Sag, c2—19 Aqu c3—29Pis b11—4Gem, b12—6Can, b2—27Leo, b3—25Vir

Notice that Trump has a dual overlap between 3rd and 9th houses which produces a kind of identity between lower and higher mind, the result depending on exactly what he thinks. So, religiosity (9th) can usurp practicality (3rd), but narrow thinking (mostly 3rd) can also usurp broader viewpoints (9th).

His 8th chart is not particularly benefic, but it is not that afflicted either. The Angle/moon/mercury/mars probably represents a form of verbal aggressiveness, much the same as is exhibited by litigating lawyers

Sets in this chart important for the November election were:

• pb sun at 6 Leo16
• B Asc at 5 Leo 59 has helped Trump project more dignity and presence for the duration of the campaign.

• pc8 uranus at 13 Sagittarius 25
• c SN at 13 Sagittarius 05
• return jupiter at 13 Virgo 05
• t8 venus at 13 Pisces 31 (0 PM EST election night 11/8/16) when he was likely certain he was winning.

The above golden benefic seems weak because venus and jupiter are opposed, but the important part is that venus is being lighted by the node.

At that same time (10 PM) t venus was at 1 Sagittarius 06 conjunct pc8 moon at 1 Sagittarius 06.

• t8 jupiter at 29 Aquarius 48 (back to 2 AM 11/9)
• return MC at 28 Scorpio 34 (return occurred 10/16/16 NYC where he was to hold his post-election party).

His strong, Angle-influencing golden benefic occurred through

• pc8 SN at 10 Capricorn 44
• pc8 jupiter at 10 Capricorn 46
• pc venus at 10 Libra 45 (ruler of C MC)

Trump did have a dark malefic at the time. It was comprised of c8 moon at 20 Aquarius 13 in the same set with t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18 and t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 47. Without influence to an Angle, it was weaker than, especially, his golden benefic listed last above.

In his 10th chart Trump has an interesting set worthy of comment. Here it is in table form:

Date	PC Moon	PC10 venus	jupiter
10/26/16	8 Pisces 33	8 Virgo 23	8 Virgo 26
11/02/16	8 Pisces 50	8 Virgo 41	8 Virgo 26
11/09/16	9 Pisces 09	8 Virgo 58	8 Virgo 26

I interpreted the above set to be a boost in Trump's polls following the third national debate on October 17. It turned out to be the ongoing rise in his popularity which followed the statement by FBI director Comey, on October 28, that there more emails on Clinton that needed investigating. At that time progressed c moon was at 8 Pisces 38.

Since Trump has been running on his prowess as a business man, and his "brand" plays a large part in that prowess, a look at his 2nd chart (personal finances) in general and for election day should be interesting.

Donald Trump Partial Harmonic Chart for His 2nd House (a.k.a. 2d chart) of Personal Finances
Placidus: c11—19Sco2—c12--9Sag, c2—19 Aqu c3—29Pis b11—4Gem, b12—6Can, b2—27Leo, b3—25Vir

Set (3a) shows Trump has an Angular golden benefic in this chart. venus and jupiter are in the same set with C Asc. The venus is a little wide (2° is the allowable orb), but each time it picks up a progressed or return moon will form a stronger set.

Set (3b) shows another angle/venus influence, with b2 sun ruling B Asc while c uranus rules c 2nd house and b uranus rules b 8th house. The 2nd/8th overlap is helpful in that c jupiter at 8 Virgo 26 is in b 2nd house and simultaneously in c 8th. C2 venus is in b 8th while simultaneously (through a house ruler) influencing c 2md.

The mercury in Leo is NOT on B Asc, but it is angular with B MC at 0 Taurus 23.

All of the above give Trump—except for really difficult progressions—a lifelong benevolent astrology for making money.

On the day of the election he has two sets which are worth comment. Progressed C Asc at 28 Aries 27 is in the same set with pc2 mars at 28 Capricorn 07. I did not check to see which was moving faster, but imagine it is the progressing harmonic mars, so this set is not yet exact. Progressed c2 saturn at 3 Capricorn 22 is conjunct C Asc at 3 Capricorn 20. Both suggest he suffers financially. Progressed c2 mercury at 13 Pisces 08 in c 2nd house is in the same set with c NN at 13 Gemini 04. A progressed mercury in Pisces in this instance suggests a sense of suffering and loss.

On the other hand, these are temporary, progressed sets. His 2nd chart starts out at birth--its major emphasis--with both venus and jupiter on Angles. That is, it is a golden benefic. So, he will recover from this. In particular, if he starts a media company with the following of deeply dedicated individuals he has gained from running for president, he will not only recover, he will recoup his losses and go on to make lots of money—maybe more than he had before he ran for the U.S. presidency.

In pursuing devoted followers rather than the presidency, he will be using his Scorpio consciousness, discussed above, in the service of building on his Taurus consciousness.

Tiffany Ariana Trump
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Tiffany is Trump's daughter with Marla Maples.

Tiffany Trump Partial Harmonic Chart for Her 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—29Cap, c12—3Pis, c2—13Tau, c3—8Gem b11—20Lib, b12—14Sco, b2—11Cap, b3—17Aqu

This is a fairly benefic 8th chart. Set (a) shows an Angle/jupiter. While Set (b) does not, it shows c jupiter and b8 venus with C MC close to their midpoint. As well, her b8 jupiter, ruler of B Asc in c 8th house, in the same set with b8 venus only needs a light to become a golden benefic.

Tiffany’s is one of the exceptions to the rule found for this 8th chart election event. Her father won, but her chart shows a loss. I can only assume there was some personal reason she may not have wanted him to win. Of course, she may just be going through some difficulties of her own. Here are the main sets:

• pb8 saturn at 20 Libra 24
• b mercury at 20 Libra 33 (ruler of B MC). This saturn started out at 21 Libra 31R and retrograded over that mercury, then turned direct, and was just getting back to it.

• pC MC at 25 Capricorn 59
• b8 mercury (ruler of B MC) at 25 Capricorn 33
• c8 NN at 26 Capricorn 38
• b8 uranus at 26 Libra 36
• return8 saturn entering the set at 26 Libra 34. This lighted Angle/saturn influences two Angles.

And this dark malefic:

• pc8 mars, ruler of C Asc, at 20 Leo 42
• t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18
• return moon at 20 Aquarius 08
• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 47
• return8 moon at 20 Taurus 51.

Ivana Trump
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Ivana was Donald's first wife. She has since remarried. Their three adult children—Donald, Jr., Ivanka, and Eric are all apparently participating in the father's campaign.

Ivana Trump Partial Harmonic Chart for Her 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—12Lib, c12—2Sco, c2—25Sag, c3—9Aqu b11—21Vir, b12—13Lib, b2—2Sag, b3—12Cap

Unnumbered sets above include B MC conjunct mercury/venus (mercury rules C MC so acts like a light) and C MC in the same set with moon and neptune. It is a highly “feminine” 8th chart (as is one of the sets below in Falwell, Jr.’s 8th), with some implications about emotional intimacy—that is, assuming we can interpret theses set in this chartthis way. In terms of elections, it offers no affliction.

Mrs. Trump has two sets pertinent to the election:

• pb venus at 17 Aries 08
• pc NN at 17 Aries 09
• return Asc at 18 Aries 25 (return occurred 10/24/16, W. Palm Beach, FL).

• t venus at 1 Sagittarius 33
• c moon at 1 Gemini 38.

Her golden benefic consists of:

• t sun at 22 Libra 30 (moving ca. one degree per day)
• pc8 jupiter at 22 Capricorn 29R in late conjunction with
• b venus at 23 Capricorn 00. The transiting sun momentarily brings them back together.

Dick Cheney
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Cheney was Vice President under George W. Bush and an ex CEO of Haliburton.

Dick Cheney Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—18Leo, c12—16Vir, c2—7Sco, c3—10Sag b11—9Gem, b12—11Can, b2—2Vir, b3—1Lib

The set with C Asc above shows an Angle/sun/saturn/pluto. Aside from its not being all that favorable for elections, does it imply he is emotionally distant?

His astrology for the election is:

• progressed C Asc at 5 Sagittarius 17
• b8 venus ruler of b 3rd house, at 5 Sagittarius 22.

• pc8 jupiter at 14 Sagittarius 07
• c8 venus at 14 Sagittarius 38 (but lacks a light, unless his return Angles picked it up.)

his golden benefic for the election is comprised of:

• return moon at 26 Libra 56
• pc8 venus at 26 Aries 31 (ruler of C Asc and c 8th house)
• pb jupiter at 26 Aries 44.

Donald Rumsfeld
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Rumsfeld served as Secretary of Defense under both Gerald Ford and Gearge W. Bush..

Donald Rumsfeld Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—9Vir, c12—5Lib, c2—26Sco, c3—1Cap b11—19Lib, b12—10Sco, b2—6Cap, b3—18Aqu

Rumseld’s 8th chart Angles are divided between benefic and malefic. Set (a) shows sun/jupiter on an Angle. Set (b) shows sun/saturn on a different Angle.

His sets for the elections were:

• pc8 jupiter at 14 Libra 11
• pb moon at 14 Lira 21
• return venus at 14 Libra 34

• return moon at 18 Virgo 21
• jupiter at 17 Virgo 53
• c8 venus at 19 Pisces 56
• pc moon at 18 Gemini 44.

• b venus at 7 Gemini 20
• pc8 moon at 7 Virgo 23
• return jupiter at 7 Sagittarius 40

All three of the previous sets are golden benefics. They lack influence to an Angle.

Return8 SN at 26 Libra 40 is conjunct C MC/sun/jupiter shown in Set (a) above.

Rudy Giuliani
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Giuliani rose to the occasion as mayor of New York City when the Twin Towers were demolished on September 11, 2001. He has been a prominent surrogate for Trump.

Rudy Giuliani Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—1Pis, c12—12Ari, c2—15Gem, c3—6Can b11—9Can, b12—9Leo, b2—2Lib, b3—2Sco

Giuliani’s 8th chart is mixed with one each of benefic and malefic sets. Set (a), the benefic one with that b8 moon at 28 Libra 41, pulls his moon conjunct jupiter in Cancer into a definite set with C MC.

Set (b) is hard because that c8 saturn at 5 Pisces 30 hits both B MC and B Asc in Gemini and Virgo, respectively, especially because of that c8 moon, ruler of c 3rd house, at 6 Sagittarius 07. Pb saturn was at 5 Gemini 43 around age twenty, adding another saturn to the set, creating several years before and after the exact conjunction of darkness and/or struggle.

Giuliani had both a one-set golden benefic and a summed one for election day:

• pC Asc at 20 Cancer 57 is at the midpoint (20 Cancer 59) of
• c8 venus, ruler of C Asc, at 20 Cancer 03
• and c NN at 21 Cancer 55. This Angle/node/venus influences two Angles.

Return 8 jupiter at 6 Sagittarius 49 has entered Set (a) above, alleviating temporarily the harshness of the double Angle/moon/saturn. This gives him a double Angle moon/jupiter, which summed with the set above, yields a golden benefic (both with lights.)

He has a number of benefic node sets.

• pb jupiter at 9 Leo 00
• c8 NN at 9 Leo 12

• pc NN at 17 Cancer 2
• c jupiter, ruler of c 8th house, at 17 Cancer 18

• return jupiter at 9 Virgo 41
• pc moon, ruler of c 3rd house, at 9 Sagittarius 49

• return8 NN at 26 Aries 53
• b jupiter at 26 Cancer o5.

His golden benefic for the elections occurred through:

• c8 jupiter, ruler of c 8th house, at 22 Gemini 58
• b8 venus at 23 Gemini 19
• pc8 NN (coming from 9 Leo 12 at conception) at 24 Gemini 14, just entering the set. (I did not check to see when it entered, it was sufficient that it had,).¸

He had:

• t8 saturn at 23 Scorpio 00
• pb mars at 23 Leo 28

They are heading for his C Asc at 23 Taurus 54 but without a light neither was close enough to produce a dark malefic. The Asc/mars part matures a little later than election day, perhaps when he finds out he will not be the new Secretary of State..

Rupert Murdoch
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Murdoch is an Australian born, wealthy American media mogul,

Rupert Murdoch Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—7Aqu, c12—6Pis, c2—29Ari, c3—0Gem b11—18Pis, b12—14Ari, b2—6Gem, b3—11Can

Murdoch's successful interest in media is shown by:

• c venus at 14 Gemini 09
• b jupiter at 16 Gemini 41—in c 3rd house. In hid 3rd chart of mind they pick up a light
• c3 moon at 16 Pisces 00.

He also has c jupiter and b3 sun in Gemini.

A look at his Set (a) above—Angle/sun/jupiter--shows he also has a “leg up” on such 8th house matters as shared resources (stocks, etc.) as well as elections.

Set (b) shows C MC in the same set with moon/2mars. A total guess is that this makes him highly aggressive in pursuing his own interests, e.g., buyouts and takeovers.

He has two golden beneficfor Trump’s election:

• pc venus ruler of c 8th house, at 23 Virgo 49
• c8 NN at 24 Virgo 43
• b jupiter , ruler of b 8th house, at 23 Sagittarius 26—no Angle influence.

• return8 (place of birth, 10/3/16) venus at 15 Pisces 30
• c venus, ruler of c 8th house, at 15 Gemini 04
• b jupiter , ruler of b 8th house, at 16 Gemini 41
• return sun at 15 Virgo 46. This also lacks Angle influence.

In addition to the above, his pb8 jupiter at 1 Sagittarius 32 is conjunct t venus at 1 Sagittarius 33 (no light, no Angle) and pb8 venus ruler of B Asc, at 28 Aquarius 49 is conjunct t8 jupiter at 28 Aquarius 48 (no light).

Rush Limbaugh
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Rush Limbaugh is a flamboyant right-wing radio show host.

Rush Limbaugh Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—1Gem, c12—3Can, c2—25Leo, c3—23Vir b11—20Sco, b12—12Sag, b2—21Aqu, b3—29Pis

The partial chart above shows that Limbaugh, through Set (a), has an all-charts golden benefic. B MC, in Set (b), is also in the same set with venus. These, along with the fact Set (a) also occurs in his 10th chart of career, astrologically account for Limbaugh’s enormous success as a radio show host. The surprise is that they are in Aquarius, usually a progressive sign. Perhaps—being on the cusp of the 7th house—they refer to his “enmity” with liberals and progressives. The 7th house shows “open enemies.”

His sets for the election were:

• pc8 moon at 8 Gemini 29
• pc8 jupiter at 8 Pisces 04
• b8 jupiter at 9 Pisces 04

• c8 moon at 3 Libra 49
• pb venus, ruler of B MC, at 27 Libra 36.

• return8 venus at 17 Virgo 10 jupiter at 17 Virgo 53
• c sun at 17 Pisces 30.

Return8 moon at 2 Aquarius 04 falls into the golden benefic set shown in Set (a) above and re-emphasizes it, forming his election golden benefic.


Jack Nicklaus
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Nicklaus is an American golfer who won the U.S. Open in 1962 and 1967, and the Master's in 1962, 1963, 1964, and 1972. Wikipedia 12/2/16) states he is “widely regarded as the greatest golfer of all time, winning a total of 18 career major championships.”

Jack Nicklaus Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—6Can, c12—6Leo, c2—29Vir, c3—29Lib b11—15Vir, b12—10Lib, b2--1Sag, b3—7Ca

Nicklaus’ 8th chart is unremarkable except that C Angles are both ruled by mercury, which acts like a light under those circumstances, making it very important.

His time of birth, Columbus, Ohio, was given as 3:00 AM. Times like that—on the hour—always raise suspicion about their accuracy. But Nicklaus’ time appears correct. His great career success suggest he has at least a summed golden benefic in his 10th chart of career:

• c10 venus at 13 Sagittarius 17
• c mercury, ruler of C Angles and a light, at 13 Pisces 19

• b10 jupiter is at 2 Virgo 00, falling on an Angle with the C Angles, shown above. This jupiter is the only one in his 10th chart which gives him that Angular jupiter influence, so it suggests his time of birth is correct, at least within a couple of minutes. (Conception two minutes earlier puts C MC back to 1 Gemini 50, still with that c10 jupiter .)

Nicklaus had neither a golden benefic nor a dark malefic for the election. His benefics outnumbered his malefics, but the latter were not insignificant. The benefics, however, were much stronger by timing (2 AM 11/9). Here they are:

• pb SN at 26 Pisces 05
• c sun at 26 Pisces 14
• pb jupiter at 26 Pisces 47
• return and transiting uranus around 26 Pisces 47.

That progressed jupiter is late to conjunction of the sun, but the addition of the SN to the set has held the conjunction longer than usual.

• pc jupiter at 13 Pisces 15
• c mercury, ruler of C Angles and a light, at 13 Pisces 19.

• pc NN at 13 Libra 03
• c8 mercury, ruler of C Angles and a light, at 13 Capricorn 07R. As two lights, they are picking up the progression of
• pc8 jupiter at 12 Capricorn 25.

• t8 venus at 15 Pisces 30
• pb moon at 15 Pisces 33.

• t8 jupiter at 28 Aquarius 48
• c8 moon at 29 Leo 01.

By definition a golden benefic or dark malefic is on or influences an Angle, but I can verify by hundreds of past experiences that it takes less than that for the feeling of “winning” to occur. Transit of venus to a moon can cause it. The addition of the transit of jupiter to another moon just confirms it. In my own astrology I have witnessed the former most in feelings associated with winning. Jupiter transits tend to give one the feeling that at last things are going right, or at last one understands.

Sean Hannity
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Hannity is a cable newsman on Fox News, a conservative program. In mid-September Fox News announced Hannity would no longer support Trump on the news show. It was not stated he had stopped supporting Trump for president.

Sean Hannity Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—29Cap, c12—6Pis, c2—21Tau, c3—12Gem b11—15Sag, b12—9Cap, b2--1Ari, b3—2Tau

Sets (a) and (b) summed show an Angle/saturn/pluto, a reclusive set for so public a figure. Set (b) also includes venus so in his charts which addjupiterto an Angle, Hannity gets his golden benefic for that area of his life. One of them is his 3rd chart of mind, in which c8jupiteris at 2 Libra 40. His 3rd chart may well be his center of gravity (COG) chart. It shows a bright man recognized for his intelligence.

Hannity’s sets for the election show:

• return (10/12/16, NYC where Fox News Channel has its broadcasting HQ) MC at 1 Gemini 02
• return Asc at 1 Virgo 38
• return8 moon at 0 Sagittarius 20
• tvenusat 1 Sagittarius 33

• return8 jupiterat 1 Capricorn 19
• pc8 venusat 1 Aries 30
• t8 NN at 2 Aries 33, with NN moving into the set.

• c8 moon at 17 Libra 36
• b8 mercury at 18 Libra 13
• pb8 jupiter at 18 Libra 22
• pb8 venus at 17 Aries 37

The above set contains an opposition of venus to jupiterwhich is weaker than the conjunction or square, and it does not influence an Angle, but it is still a golden benefic. The above sets sum to 2Angle/light/venus along with several light/venus/jupiter sets not influencing an Angle. He does not have anything malefic to counter these (Angle/mars, but no Angle/saturn) so this astrology represents a win for Hannity, and therefore, Trump.



David Duke
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Duke is a nationally known white supremacist in support of Trump, who has disavowed his support. Duke is also running for the U.S. Senate as the member from Louisiana. After thinking about it for a while, I concluded that the results shown here are Duke’s with regard to his own loss for his race for Senator. I believe that was much more important to him than whether or not Trump won..

David Duke Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—25Leo, c12—23Vir, c2—15Sco, c3—18Sag b11—6Can, b12—7Leo, b2--1Lib, b3—1Sco

Duke’s Set (a) sometimes interprets as violent. It can also interpret as a depth with regard to some form of behavior or thought process. mars in the set rules b 3rd (mind) and 8th houses, so it interestingly suggests an extreme belief that in turn ejects him from a common commune (8th house) with others.His Set (b)—double Angle/mercury/venus/mars—is active, aggressive (mars), but it also suggests an ability to speak well (mercury/venus) and with conciliation. Add his C Asc in Libra (not numbered in the drawing above) conjunct venus conjunct c8 SN all in Libra, the suggestion of conciliation is far stronger. It may be that part of his need for separation and a war-like (mars rules C Desc) is compensation for an inclination to be too much a yes man.

Duke’s pertinent election sets for his loss were:

• pb mercury, ruler of both birth Angles, at 8 Virgo 09 R
• b SN at 8 Virgo 00. This set suggests he is specifically suffering from unpopularity (SN) at the time .

• pb mars ruler of b 3rd and 8th houses, at 22 Libra 36 has entered Set (a) above, adding another mars emphasis to that Ange/mars/pluto.

He had a progressed Angle/venus in

• pC MC at 29 Virgo 01
• pc venus ruler of C Asc, at 29 Sagittarius 07, but his return contributed two mars to the set—return mars at 29 Sagittarius 56 and rreturn8 mars at 29 Sagittarius 15.

His dark malefic was comprised of:

• return SN at 15 Aquarius 57
• pb8 mars ruler of b 3rd and 8th houses, at 16 Aquarius 02
• return8 saturn at 15 Scorpio 27.

Jerry Falwell, Jr.
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Falwell, Jr. is the son of Reverend Jerry Falwell. He has been president of Liberty University, a Christian University in Lynchburg, VA since his father’s death in 2007. In Wikipedia (10/13/16) we find this quote: In an August 19, 2016 editorial in the Washington Post, Falwell compared Trump to Winston Churchill: "We need a leader with qualities that resemble those of Winston Churchill, and I believe that leader is Donald Trump.”

> Jerry Falwell, Jr. Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—15Ari, c12—22Tau, c2—15Can, c3—9Leo b11—26Cap, b12—0Pis, b2--15Tau, b3—8Gem

Set (a) above shows that for his whole 8th chart Falwell, Jr. has a golden benefic that is wide to B MC. That mercury in the set rules C Asc, so acts like a light, and increases orb for planets to Angles somewhat over 2°.

Additionally, the moon conjunct venus conjunct C MC in Pisces, plus his sun/mercury/Angle with B||Asc, implies his 8th chart adds up to a very sweet one for, among other possibilities, pastoral counseling, with mercury for speech, and the moon/venus for responsiveness and emotional sensitivity., IF, that is, he does any pastoral counseling. He also has moon/uranus/neptune/SN/NN with its spiritual/religious implications. It certainly makes me more interested in research on all the implications of the 8th chart.

For the election, Falwell, Jr.had two golden benefics in addition to both venus and jupiter progressed to Angles. Here are the two:

• return (10/19/16, Lynchburg, VA) sun at 2 Libra 07
• t8 NN at 2 Aries 33 have entered Set (a) above, cementing its pronounced influence at the time.

• return moon at 26 Taurus 45
• pb8 venus at 27 Scorpio 29
• pb8 SN at 27 Scorpio 05
• pc8 jupiter at 27 Aquarius 16, This second set lacks influence to an Angle.

Bobby Knight
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Now retired, Knight was an accomplished basketball player then famous coach at Indiana University.

Bobby Knight Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—4Vir, c12—1Lib, c2—21Sco, c3—26Sag b11—14Vir, b12—9Lib, b2—30Sco, b3—6Cap

Set (a) above shows an Angle/venus, good for showing affection and likability. Set (b)—Angle/mercury/uranus—is a set showing intelligence. It has also been called a set for “karate mouth.” I know not how to tell why some people use it that way and others do not.

Knight’s sets for the election were overwhelmingly positive, with two golden benefics. There were:

• pB MC at 29 Libra 07
• pb8 jupiter at 29 Libra 07
• pc8 mercury at 29 Libra 32
• B Asc at 29 Libra 44
• c venus, ruler of C Asc and c 8th house, at 29 Capricorn 38.

The two Angles in the set make it possible for it to represent one whole set. However, we can also use B Asc to make the following set:

• B Asc at 29 Libra 44
• pc venus ruler of C Asc and c 8th house, at 0 Taurus 07
• return8 jupiter at 0 Aquarius 03.

Steven Seagal
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Seagal is a famous martial artist and actor.

Steven Seagal Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—29Tau, c12—2Can c2—23Leo, c3—20Vir b11—23Tau, b12—27Gem, b2—17Leo, b3—14Vir

Seagal’s Sets (a), (b) and (c) above summed show Angle/mars/jupiter/neptune/pluto. Other than this paper and the one on the lottery, I have done little work with the 8th chart. However, this Angular influence appears to show an emotional oneness (8th chart/jupiter) with others through fighting (mars/pluto) and movies (neptune). I would normally think that has to show in the 10th chart. Perhaps it does.

Another set:

• b8 mars ruler of B MC, at 16 Aquarius 53
• c NN at 17 Aquarius 34
• b8saturnat 18 Aquarius 10

The above are in b 8th house and are additionally lighted by c8 sun, ruler of C Asc, at 17 Leo 38. They show that intimate (8th) discord (martial arts fighting—mars/saturn) with others (8th he will achieve public approval (NN).

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Seagal’s astrology for the elections was:

• return sun at 16 Libra 46
• MC/jupiter/neptune shown in Set (a) above—a feeling of high, perhaps awe

• return8 moon at 3 Pisces 21
• pc8 jupiter at 3 Pisces 05

• return8 sun at 17 Sagittarius 33
• pc jupiter at 18 Pisces 19
• pB MC at 18 Gemini 37

• pb jupiterat 16 Aries 20
• B MC at 16 Aries 14.

His Angle/venus sets are :

• t sun at 22 Libra 20
• pb8 venus co-ruler of b 3rd house, at 22 Capricorn 40

• pc venusat 14 Leo 12
• pc8 sun, ruler of C Asc, at 14 Taurus 26

Summed, all of the above show Angle/light/venus/jupiter for the election outcome. A win for Seagal and Trump..

Seagal does have several afflicted sets countering the above—a light/mars with Angular influence, another Angular/light/mars/(pluto), a light/saturn, a mars/node, and an Angle/light/saturn in the form of pB Asc at 16 Virgo 39 conjunct b saturn at 16 Virgo 49 in the same set with pc8 moon at 15 Pisces 53. But the latter also shows return jupiter at 16 Virgo 47, conjunct that progressed MC/saturn, thus alleviating its darker suggestions for the time being.

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Caitlyn Jenner
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A famous athlete, Jenner is also a famous transgender female.

Caitlyn Jenner Partial Harmonic Chart for Her 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—20Can, c12—20Leo c2—12Lib, c3—13Sco b11—18Leo, b12—16Vir, b2—7Sco, b3—10Sag

Jenner’s Set (a) shows both C Angles in a set with c8 jupiter —for success and self-confidence.

Set (b) is comprised of Angle/node/mars—good for athletic performance, particularly with that all-charts c mars in Capricorn, the sign of mastery and controlled function. Its influence to c 3rd house shows its influence to her thinking.

The unnumbered set above with b sun conjunct B Asc is another set showing self-confidence and dignity, and an ability to pursue one’s essential aims.

I did not check her 10th chart, but this one would surely be a good center of gravity chart representing her athletic success.

Her pertinent benefic sets for the election were:

• t jupiter at 17 Virgo 53
• return moon at 17 Virgo 54,

• return (10/28/16, place of birth) jupiter at 15 Virgo 32
• C Asc, while t venus at 15 Pisces 30 is also in the set.

• t8 NN at 2 Aries 33 is late in the same set with
• pc jupiter at 3 Capricorn 32
• return8 venus at 3 Cancer 37

C sun at 0 Capricorn 40 and pc NN at 1 Aries 52 are boosting-from-below the degree of acceptability of orb for the set above.

• pb8 moon, ruler of B MC, at 27 Taurus 24
• pc8 mercury, ruler of both C Angles and a light, at 28 Taurus 04
• pb8 venus ruler of B Asc and b 8th house, at 27 Leo 14
• t8 jupiter at 28 Aquarius 48.

The last three sets all involve venus opposition jupiter. While in a birth chart the opposition means the two “fight” each other, here it is the fact that both (in the last two sets) are lighted. That last set influences four Angles and an 8th house.

THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL ASTROLOGY
Bernie Sanders was originally included until I realized his birth data was entirely unreliable as to time.

Hillary Clinton
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Mrs. Clinton is running for the office of president of the United States.

Hillary Clinton Partial Harmonic Chart for Her 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—0Vir, c12—27Vir, c2—18Sco, c3—22Sag b11—12Vir, b12—7Lib, b2—28Sco, b3—4Cap

Set (a), which shows mercury/jupitersaturn on two Angles is okay because jupiter and saturn work well together to either consolidate gains (saturn) or mix expansiveness (jupiter) with a certain conservatism (saturn). If the set picks up mars it tend to go negative. If it picks up venus positive. And Set (c) shows venus in a wide set with B MC—usually working when a light is part of the set, and increasing Clinton’s 8th chart good fortune.

But the whole chart took a turn toward affliction when, in Set (b) her birth mars conjunction pluto in Cancer (along with mars harmonic) picked up a light (the node at 19 Libra 14) to create an Angle/node/2mars/pluto, which summed with Set (a), give Clinton Angle/mars/saturn/pluto—the set that accompanies deaths and withdrawals of all kinds. And it was a progression of an Angle to Set (c) for the election which made that set even stronger, influencing two Angles.

Placed as it is in the 8th chart, Clintons Angle/mars/pluto may account for the violent reactions so many others have for her.

Clinton’s “dark malefic” affliction for election day did not occur as all one set. Instead, it occurred through several, and summed they yield the dark malefic of Angle/(light)/mars/saturn. There were no benefics sets to offset them. Here they are:

• pB MC at 20 Libra 16 has entered Set (c) above, yielding that double Angle/node/2mars/pluto

• b sun at 8 Libra 18, ruler of B MC
• pb8 saturn, ruler of b 3rd hous24, at 8 Libra 24
• pc saturn, co-ruler (28 of 36°) of c 3rd house and ruler of c 4th, at 8 Libra 03
• pC MC at 8 Libra 14—yielding an Angle/sun/2saturn with influence to two Angles.

Summing the above two sets, she has Angle/sun/marssaturn/pluto.

Other significant sets include:

• pc8 mercury, co-ruler of c 8th house, at 3 Aries 39
• b8 mercury, co-ruler of b 8th house, at 3 Aries 57
• b8 saturn, ruler of b 9th house, at 3 Libra 03.

Transiting NN at 2 Aries 22 was still within orb of affecting it.

Progressed b saturn, which started out at birth direct at 27 Cancer 18 and was progressing toward B MC and C Asc, moved over them and turned stationary retrograde at 28 Cancer 40 when she was around 39 years old. On election day it had moved back to 27 Cancer 50, newly afflicting both those Angles.

Return mars at 24 Sagittarius 55 is conjunct pB Asc at 25 Sagittarius 04.

• pb moon at 20 Virgo 05
• pb8 moon at 20 Pisces 54
• pc8 saturn, co-ruler of c 3rd house, at 20 Pisces 34R.

Clinton did have venus on one return (NYC, her place for post-election celebration) Angle and jupiter on the other, but these were her only benefic sets--not enough to counteract her afflictions.

Timothy Michael Kaine
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Mr. Kaine is Clinton's running mate as her vice president.

Tim Kaine Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—22Tau, c12—27Gem, c2—16Leo, c3—12Vir b11—29Sag, b12—26Cap, b2—23Ari, b3—18Tau

Set (a) above shows us mercury conjunct pluto conjunct B MC, a set that could interpret as indicating a profound (pluto) interest (mercury) in religious values and/or law (or even foreign peoples—all Sagittarius.

Set (b) occurs in all charts and demonstrates Kaine’s high intelligence (Angle/mercury/uranus) as well as his more unorthodox, practical approach to life (in Aries). Neptune in the set shows some idealism.

Set (c), with Angle/node/pluto is okay with the above two sets. It could go negative when accompanied by a progressed Angle/saturn.

Kaine’s significant afflictions for the elections were:

• pB Asc at 4 Gemini 02

• pb mercury at 26 Pisces 31
• b8 SN at 26 Pisces 40
• t uranus at 26 Pisces 34. The SN makes it negative

• pC MC at 11 Gemini 45
• pb8 saturn at 11 Pisces 42R.

• return8 SN at 11 Libra 39
• b neptune at 10 Libra 29
• b8 mars at 10 Libra 29.

• return (10/31/16,NYC, post-election party) MC at 18 Taurus 18
• c saturn at 17 Scorpio 54

His dark malefic is with:

• return Asc at 20 Leo 39
• return venus at 20 Scorpio 44
• t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18
• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 42.

Kaine does have a few benefic sets, but nothing strong enough to counteract the heavy affliction shown above.

William Jefferson Clinton
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Bill Clinton successfully ran for the presidency of the United States in 1992 and 1996.

Bill Clinton Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—19Sco, c12—12Sag, c2—19Aqu, c3—27Pis b11—14Can, b12—15Leo, b2—9Lib, b3—10Sco

Sets (a) and (b) above show that summed President Clinton has an 8th chart dark malefic. Unnumbered above, the set starting with c saturn in Cancer including venus, jupiter (out-of-sign conjunction) and a node, with influence to C MC, shows a golden benefic with saturn. It is stronger in his 6th chart where b6 moon is at 0 Aries 31.

Sets which show his wife’s loss of the election are:

• pb8 mercury, ruler of B MC and B Asc and a light, at 12 Gemini 40
• with his mars and neptune, shown above.

• pC MC at 7 Capricorn 53
• pc8 venus, ruler of C MC, at 7 Capricorn 56
• C Asc at 7 Capricorn 10
• b saturn at 8 Cancer 09. If we consider the original Angle/saturn weak (1 degree orb), the progressed Angle in the set increases orb

Angle/venus/saturn shows emotional disappointment, and the set influences three Angles.

• pc saturn, ruler of C Asc, at 26 Gemini 55R
• pc mars at 27 Gemini 34R
• c8 pluto at 28 Gemini 19
• return8 moon at 28 Sagittarius 35.

We can add c saturn at 0 Cancer 18 to the set, particulary because the midpoint between it and its progressed position is 28 Gemini 37. The set may also include b jupiter at 29 Virgo 14.

• return (11/8/16, NYC for celebration) Asc at 20 Taurus 18
• pB MC at 20 Leo 47
• b8 sun at 20 Scorpio 07
• return saturn at 20 Scorpio 16
• t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18
• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 47

C8 mars at 21 Aquarius 35 can also be included in the set. These last two sets represent election dark malefics and a loss.

Chelsea Victoria Clinton
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Chelsea is the daughter of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Chelsea Clinton Partial Harmonic Chart for Her 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—12Cap, c12—14Aqu, c2—1Tau, c3—26Tau b11—2Vir, b12—27Vir, b2—21Sco, b3—24Sag

I do not really know how to interpret Chelsea’s Set (a) in an 8th chart. Without the mars /pluto on the Descendant, she has a summed Angle/mercury/venus with NN conjunct C MC. NN conjunct either Asc or MC is always good for various forms of social approval because one’s growing point (NN) this lifetime is facing what one encounters. That sum would seem to be excellent for being a spokewoman in a Foundation, but it needs research. Perhaps the mars /pluto represents people the foundation helps, e.g., those under severe (pluto)(stress (mars). Or maybe she enjoys the same peculiar unpopularity as her mother.

She has two dark malefics for the election and nothing positive to come anywhere near offsetting them. So that is all I am going to show here:

• pB Asc at 20 Scorpio 11
• t saturnat 20 Scorpio 18
• c SN at 20 Aquarius 06
• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 47
• c8 mercury at 20 Taurus 19 (co-ruler of c 3rd house
• return MC at 20 Taurus 19 (NYC for celebration, 11/1/16)

and

pC Asc at 14 Taurus 11
• pc saturn at 14 Leo 33
• pb8 mars at 14 Scorpio 16
• b8 jupiter at 13 Aquarius 40
• b sun at 14 Aquarius 19
• return8 neptune at 14 Aquarius 42

That is, progressed mars and saturn have closed in on her sun/jupiter set. Angle/mars/saturn/neptune represents siege conditions—with b sun co-ruling b 10th house, perhaps her mother’s deep distress.


Barack Hussein Obama
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Barack Obama successfully ran for President of the United States in 2008 and 2012.

Barack Obama Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—17Sco, c12—12Sag, c2—15Aqu, c3—21Pis b11—30Sco, b12—25Sag, b2—2Pis, b3—6Ari

Set (a) shows an Angle/sun/mercury. When accompanied by a return, progressed, or transiting light, it becomes Angle/sun/mercury/jupiter. Otherwise, there is nothing remarkable—either for good or bad—about Obama’s 8th chart.

Sets for the election were:

• pB MC at 28 Sagittarius 41
• pb8 sun at 28 Sagittarius 53
• pb saturn, ruler of B Asc, at 29 Sagittarius 02.

• pc8 saturn, ruler of C Asc, at 1 Scorpio 15
• b8 moon at 1 Leo 34.

• c8 sun at 23 Virgo 28
• c8 mars, co-ruler of c 3rd house, at 23 Virgo 55
• pc saturn, ruler of C Asc, at 24 Sagittarius 07.

• pb8 saturn, ruler of B Asc, at 20 Sagittarius 23
• c moon at 20 Sagittarius 30
• return pluto at 20 Sagittarius 11
• c mars, co-ruler of c 3rd house, at 20 Gemini 23. This and the set above are dark malefics.

Obama does have one, weaker golden malefic in the form of pc8 venus, ruler of C MC, at 3 Cancer 32 conjunct b3 sun at 3 Cancer 28 and in the same set with pb jupiter at 3 Capricorn 11—a venus opposition jupiter.

A poignant set was formed by pc8 NN at 25 Pisces 49 conjunct pb8 pluto at 26 Pisces 18 falling in c 3rd house, suggesting a potent dip into deepest sorrow.

Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.
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Biden was Obama's running mate as Vice President in 2008 and 2012.

Joe Biden Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—3Gem, c12—6Can, c2—27Leo, c3—24Vir b11—26Vor, b12—20Lib, b2—11Sag, b3—19Cap

Biden’s Set (a) shows an Angle/mercury/saturn/uranus, normally a set that shows considerable intelligence (mercury/uranus) as well as capacity for working within the system to change it (saturn/uranus). But in some charts this set works out as his reputation for verbal blunders (mercury/saturn/10th chart, for one) and in another, his loss of two of his children before his own death (mercury/saturn/5th chart, probably) as he lost a daughter in an auto accident when she was still very young, and, more recently, his son Beau from brain cancer.

Biden’s pertinent sets for loss of the election are:

• pbjupiter at 25 Taurus 44
• t8 uranus at 25 Taurus 38R
• B MC at 25 Leo 58
• c8 sun, ruler of C Asc, at 26 Leo 11
• pb8 saturnat 27 Leo 37R
• pc8 moon at 25 Scorpio 37

It might look like saturn which is moving retrograde, does not belong in the set, but it does because of the two lights and one Angle in the set. Still, this set shows both a benefic and malefic influence to two Angles.

• pc8 mars, ruler of C MC, at 9 Aries 17
• c8 saturn at 9 Aries 06
• in a wide-orbed set with pb8 sun, ruler of B MC, at 8 Cancer 15

Sun is moving into the set, to be around 9 Cancer 05 on December 9, 2016 (to gives its speed).

He has outstanding benefic sets, and the deciding dark malefic involves:

• return8 sun at 26 Aries 11
• and return8 mars at 25 Cancer 30 have entered the C MC/mercury/saturn/uranus set shown in (a) above. Note that the sun is between the MC/saturn and the return mars lighting all.

Pope Francis I
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Of course it is not the business of Popes to endorse U.S. Presidential candidates. However, it was not hard to deduce Pope Francis’ preference for Clinton. He held a prayer service with Mexicans on the U.S./Mexican border following Trump's pronouncement that Mexican's were “rapists and murderers.” In response to the Pope's prayer service, Trump essentially told the Pope to mind his own business. He has. From his actions, it is clear he belongs more in the progressive camp than the conservative one. All of those add up to a Clinton preference.

Pope Francis I Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—12Pis, c12—8Ari c2—1Gem, c3—5Can b11—2Tau, b12—24Tau, b2—24Can, b3—4Vir

Although this is a 9:00 PM birth, suggesting a rounded out time, the work done on his election as Pope suggests this time is correct, More on that below.

Set (a) above contains Asc/moon/mercury/mars/saturn. Because it contains mars and saturn at first it seems are negative, full of dissonance. But mercury’s presence makes it a very active intelligence. The SN conjunct saturn in Gemini suggests a deep, serious turn of mind (Gemini and saturn are somewhat opposites in terms of implications), mars a very active one, and the moon/mercury/NN in Sagittarius on B Desc suggest spiritual work with others (7th) which is right for his own spiritual growth. When he was elected pope (3/13/2013, 19:06 PM LMT, Vatican City) transiting pluto at 16 Sagittarius 25 was right on the Sagittarian conjunction.

Moreover, even though Set (a) has extremely positive uses, it remains an 8th chart dark malefic, hardly something one would assume good for election as pope. This chart also has this set, which contains a golden benefic:

• Set (b)
• b8 mars ruler of B MC at 16 Taurus 25
• b8 venus at 17 Taurus 27
• c8 venus ruler of C Asc, at 16 Leo 37
• c8 NN at 18 Leo 26 jupiter at 17 Aquarius 16
• c saturn at 19 Aquarius 21

The return (Vatican City, 3/7/13) for his election had its Asc at 17 Taurus 32, picking up Set (b) above. Return venus was at 16 Aquarius 42, weighting the set toward benefic expression.

He also had:

• Return MC at 22 Capricorn 21
• c venus ruler of c 6th and C Asc, at 22 Capricorn 40

Progressed c NN at 9 Sagittarius 54 (coming from 16 Sagittarius 51 at conception) was with b jupiter at 9 Sagittarius 41, showing a second NN/Sagittarian emphasis.

He also has b sun at 2 Sagittarius 04 conjunct b NN at 0 Sagittarius 24..

Even though the Pope’s had one golden benefic set (involving Set (a) above, with the mars/saturn), he had three dark malefics for the U.S. presidential election:

• pb mars ruler of B MC, at 4 Scorpio 25
• c moon, ruler of c 3rd house, at 4 Leo 39
• pc8 saturn at 4 Leo 4

• return8 mars at 18 Aquarius 38
• c8 SN at 18 Aquarius 26
• c saturn at 19 Aquarius 21,

• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 41
• pc8 sun at 20 Leo 06
• return saturn at 20 Scorpio 16.

He had the set which often accompanies a rush of feeling, a shock, consisting of:

• pb8 moon at 1 Libra 40
• pc8 mars at 2 Libra 10
• c pluto at 1 Cancer 31. The moon mediates between the other two planets, drawing them into the same set.

Al Gore
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Vice President under Bill Clinton and 2000 presidential candidate, Gore has supported Hillary for this election.

Al Gore Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—0Cap, c12—28Cap c2—20Ari, c3—16Tau b11—4Tau, b12—10Gem, b2—1Leo, b3—26Leo

In Set (a) above, it looks like that b jupiter in Sagittarius is heading toward his C MC, but it turned stationary-retrograde around age 15, and so far in this lifetime, has turned direct again, but is now only at 0 Sagittarius 56. So its promise of a highly benevolent time in his life has never been realized.

Gore’s astrology, along with that of Tiffany Trump, is the only astrology that does not fall in line with the other results in this paper. An endorser of Clinton, his astrology shows her winning. As was the case with Tiffany, there could be a number of reasons for such a result, but it follows from both that either they wanted their candidate to lose, or equally possible, other things were going on in their lives which, for them, far outweighed any results in the national election.

Though I understand the Clinton-Gore connection was not highly prized by Gore, so he may not have wished her success, t is also difficult to assume he would have been happy--as implied by his astrology—that Trump won. So, we are left guessing.

Here is Gore’s 8th chart astrology for the election:

• pB MC at 4 Gemini 23 and pB Asc at 4 Virgo 23
• pb moon at 4 Gemini 16
• b jupiter at 4 Sagittarius 36.

• pc8 jupiter , ruler of C MC, at 27 Pisces 55
• B MC at 27 Pisces 52.

his golden benefic is comprised of

• C MC at 8 Sagittarius 22
• b moon at 9 Sagittarius 13
• C Asc at 9 Pisces 42
• pb8 jupiter at 9 Pisces 21R
• return8 (Carthage, TN, 10/24/16) sun at 9 Virgo 05
• and return8 venus at 10 Virgo 00

Jimmy Carter
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Former President Jimmy Carter has endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Jimmy Carter Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—11Pis—28, c12—20Ari, c2—20Gem. c3--12Can b11—23Can, b12—23Leo, b2—18Lib, b3—18Sco
p>Carter’s Set (a) suggests someone with philosophical or religious (jupiter) interests (mercury), though other interpretations are possible. His Set (b) with Angle/mars/pluto may have played a part in his failed bid for re-election since it tends to take one out of competition (except in prize fights)..

Carter’s had two dark malefics for the election:

• t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18
• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 47
• c uranus, ruler of C MC, at 20 Aquarius 16
• c8 NN at 20 Aquarius 39
• return8 (10/1/2016, Plains, GA) moon at 21 Taurus 56
• return8 mars at 21 Taurus 45, with the moon and node bringing them all into one set

• return MC at 18 Capricorn 24
• c8 moon at 17 Cancer 58
• return8 saturn at 17 Libra 18
• c mars at 17 Libra 08
• pb saturn at 18 Libra 26
• b moon at 19 Libra 20.

There was a jupiter in the set—pc8 jupiter at 19 Capricorn 08, but it is not sufficient to turn neutralize the set.


Jeb Bush
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Former Governor of Florida Jeb Bush dropped out of the 2016 presidential primaries when it was clear Trump had won. He has endorsed Clinton for President.

Jeb Bush Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—16Pis—28, c12—24Ari, c2—23Gem. C3—16Can b11—1Can, b12—1Leo, b2—26Vir, b3—27Lib

The only thing that stands out about Bush’s 8th chart relative to planets on Angles is the fact that his b8 mars co-ruler (27 of 31°) of b 8th houses, starts the chart out with a slightly malefic influence through its influence to both Ascendants.

Bush did have one golden benefic for the election comprised of return8 mmon at 7 Libra 46 in the same set with c venus at 5 Aries 00 and c jupiter at 7 Aries 03. It does not influence an Angle, but the Aries conjunction is in c 8th house, and c jupiter rules c 8th. Republicans, did, after all, keep their majority (and even increase it) in both the House and Senate.

Bush’s far more prevalent malefic sets for the election were:

• pb sun at 2 Aries 28
• NN at 8 Cancer 57
• b saturn at 3 Libra 09.

• pB Asc at 25 Libra 30
• pb mars co-ruler of b 8th house, at 25 Aries 47.

• pc8 sun at 28 Virgo 34
• pb saturn at 29 Virgo 40
• b8 uranus at 29 Virgo 49
• b neptune at 29 Virgo 42
• return sun at 29 Virgo 01.

• return (Coral Gables,FL, 10/16/16) MC at 17 Sagittarius 36
• pb8 mars co-ruler of b 8th house, at 17 Pisces 50.

• pc mercury, ruler of C Asc and therefore also a light, at 15 Cancer 48
• c mars at 15 Libra 34.

• pB MC at 2 Leo 16
• pc8 moon at 3 Leo 22
• c SN at 3 Leo 24
• c mars at 4 Leo 45
• c8 saturn at 2 Aquarius 34

B8 venus ruler of B MC, at 3 Aquarius 56, gives the set a second Angular influence. The two lights in the set—moon and node—increase orb, bringing that c mars into the set. This is an election dark malefic. (However, even if we do not include the mars the set shows a highly emphasized Angle/saturn.)

Walter Mondale
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Vice President under Jimmy Carter, former candidate for the president, Mondale endorsed Clinton.

Walter Mondale Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—13Ari—28, c12—23Tau, c2—15Can. C3—7Leo b11—14Sag, b12—8Cap, b2—1Ari, b3—2Tau

Set (a) shows both sidereal uranuses in Pisces conjunct C MC, with influence to c 9th house and B Asc in c 9th house, suggesting possible unpleasant surprises in his life in the area of law and foreign affairs. His Set (b) is also problematic since it is conjunct two South Nodes in Scorpio, implying unfavorable social reactions. His b saturn at 20 Scorpio 17 progressed s-l-o-w-l-y over those positions, taking longer than usual because the SN as lights increase orb. Since Scorpio is natural sign of the 8th house, and that house and chart are involved in shared values, during that time period he would have found himself “loser” in that area. I did not check to see if it was there when he lost his bid for President.

His dark malefic for the 2016 election was comprised of:

• pb sun at 19 Pisces 47
• pc moon at 19 Pisces 50
• b8 saturn at 19 Virgo 03
• c8 pluto at 20 Virgo 38
• return8 pluto at 20 Virgo 43
• return (10/18/16, place of birth) mars at 19 Sagittarius 17
• return pluto at 20 Sagittarius 04
• b sun at 20 Sagittarius 23

Return8 venus at 20 Gemini 38 was in the set, but not sufficient to turn it positive.

Tony Blair
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Blair was Prime Minister of England from 1997 to 2007.

Tony Blair Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—23Leo, c12—18Vir, c2—3Sco. C3—8Sag b11—23Cap, b12—2Pis, b2—1Gem, b3—16Gem

Blair’s 8th chart is as afflicted as Falwell, Jr.’s is benefic. Set (a) shows and Angle/mars/saturn and Set (a) shows an Angle/moon/2mars. One good thing is the conjunction of c8 NN to CAsc, which favors success.

While Blair has a progressed Angle/jupiter for the 2016 U.S. election, he does not have a golden benefic. He does, however, have a dark malefic:

• return (London, 10/19/16) MC at 22 Gemini 1
• pb sun at 22 Gemini 08
• pb mars at 22 Gemini 11
• pc saturn at 22 Virgo 35.

he also has return8 NN at 18 Aries 12 fitting into the Angle/moon/2mars in Set (a) above.

Dianne Feinstein
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Feinstein is.

Dianne Feinstein Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—25Tau, c12—28Gem, c2—20Leo. C3—18Vir b11—7Cap, b12—7Aqu, b2—27Ari, b3—22Tau

Sets (a) and (b) above show that summed Feinstein has an 8th chart golden benefic. This seems suitable for someone who has served continuously in the Senate since 1992 (24 years), but we need to look at charts of other long-term house and senate members to see if the same astrology prevails.

Her pertinent election sets were:

• pb8 SN at 16 Gemini 04
• pb8 saturn at 16 Gemini 40
• pb moon at 16 Gemini 54
• pc8 saturn at 16 Pisces.

• return mars at 23 Sagittarius 44
• c8 pluto at 23 Sagittarius 08
• c8 SN at 23 Sagittarius 19
• b venus, ruler of b 3rd and 8th houses, at 23 Gemini 27.

• pc moon at 10 Pisces 06
• c8 mercury, co-ruler of c 3rd house, at 11 Pisces 07
• pc8 moon, ruler of C Asc, at 11 Sagittarius 03 (dumbfounded).

her dark malefic is

• pc mars at 16 Leo 16
• b8 mars at 16 Leo 23
• return8 mercury at 16 Leo 14
• return NN at 16 Leo 40
• c8 saturn at 16 Aquarius 10.

Jerry Brown
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Brown is the current governor of California and was also governor from 1975 to 1983.

Jerry Brown Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—7Ari, c12—16Tau, c2—10Can. C3—3Leo b11—5Tau, b12—10Gem, b2—2Leo, b3—28Leo

Examination of the three sets above shows that Brown has all three of those Angles in sets with mercury. Does that make him an excellent negotiator? What would be its 8th chart significance?

As governor of California and a Democrat, it is likely that Brown was interested in the successful election of more than just Hillary Clinton. That, of course, throws his results into the stack of “surrogates” with more than one election interest, rendering his results less than as clear as would be preferred.

So, while he did not have a golden benefic, he did not have a dark malefic either. But his afflictions outweighed his benefic sets by far, so it seems right to call his astrology a loss for Clinton. Here are the worst sets:

• pB MC at 15 Gemini 14
• b saturn at 15 Piseces 17.

• pb saturn at 23 Pisces 06
• b sun, ruler of b 3rd house, at 23 Pisces 29
• return8 neptune at 23 Pisces 49R. This represents a feeling of deflation and depression. But pc jupiter at 23 Sagittarius 38 is also in the set, making it far less devastating by itself.

• return (10/31/16, San Francisco, CA) mars at 28 Sagittarius 39
• B MC at 29 Pisces 23
• c8 mercury at 29 Pisces 24.

• return pluto at 20 Sagittarius 15
• c8 saturn ruler of c 8th house, at 20 Sagittarius 01
• C Asc at 19 Gemini 45.

• pc8 saturn ruler of c 8th house, at 24 Scorpio 40R
• is conjunct (and moving closer to) his b8 moon, ruler of B Asc, at 24 Scorpio 25. This set is a longer-term serious affliction representing loss and tdepressive effect.

Michael Bloomberg
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Bloomberg was mayor of New York City from 1/1/2002 to 12/31/2013. He is a wealthy businessman and philanthropist, starting the Bloomberg Foundation.

Mike Bloomberg Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—6Aqu, c12—14Pis, c2—27Tau. C3—18Gem b11—22Ari, b12—0Gem, b2—22Can, b3—15Leo

Set (a) above shows Asc/sun/mercury/jupiter/uranus. Among other things, it suggests intelligent (mercury) expansion (jupiter) through a combination of sound judgment (sun) and innovation (uranus). At any rate, it tends toward success for Mr. Bloomberg, particularly in matters of investment and elections because jupiter co-rules (18 of 21°) c 8th house.

Bloomberg has a combination of progressed/return benefics and malefics. One of them shows both jupiter and saturn progressed to that C Asc at 2 Taurus 14 shown above. But return8 saturn at 1 Scorpio 53 tips the balance to malefic. In addition on the malefic end he has:

• return8 mars at 21 Virgo 16
• pC MC at 21 Pisces 18.

• return (10/19/16, New York City) Asc at 11 Libra 39
• b8 saturn ruler of b 8th house, at 11 Aries 50
• b8 pluto at 12 Aries 30—a set showing withdrawing and loss.

his dark malefic for the elections is

• b saturn at 28 Aries 11
• pb8 NN at 28 Aries 50
• c mars ruler of c 8th house, at 29 Capricorn 26
• pc venus ruler of C Asc, at 28 Cancer 51, with venus serving to connect the set to an Angle.

Bill de Blasio
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de Blasio is current mayor of New York City.

Bill de Blasio Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—28Pis, c12—9Tau, c2—5Can. C3—26Can b11—24Leo, b12—22Vir, b2—13Sco, b3—16Sag

Sets (a) and (b) above summed give de Blasio a golden benefic for this chart. Set (c) shows the potential—as will be seen—for highly benefic or highly malefic results because pluto tends to exaggerate whichever planet it is with.

De Blasio’s astrology is one that is dual—it contains both a golden benefic and two dark malefics, with other mars and saturn affictions dominant (which I will show). As with other “dual results” for surrogates, they likely represent the individual won some and lost some. In de Blasio’s case, as mayor of a huge metropolitan city, he likely endorsed, or favored, other candidates in the 2016 election.

His sets for losing, which we assume included his Clinton loss, are:

• return saturn at 18 Scorpio 25
• c8 pluto at 17 Aquarius 30
• b8 moon at 18 Aquarius 46
• c8 sun at 18 Taurus 56.

• return moon at 21 Gemini 58
• return8 pluto at 21 Virgo 06
• return mars at 21 Sagittarius 47

• pc8 sun at 23 Scorpio 07
• pB Asc at 23 Scorpio 46
• c8 mercury, ruler of C Asc and a light, at 24 Scorpio 09
• t8 saturn at 23 Scorpio 00
• return Asc at 22 Aquarius 53
• b8 pluto at 23 Aquarius 36
• C MC at 23 Aquarius 10

This Angle/double light/saturn/pluto influences four Angles.

• return (10/21/16, Manhattan) MC at 28 Scorpio 36
• pb8 pluto at 28 Aquarius 53
• b8 sun at 28 Aquarius 56
• pc8 saturn at 27 Leo 05.

• return8 saturn at 4 Scorpio 05
• pb NN at 3 Leo 59
• c mars at 4 Taurus 35.

• pc8 mars at 20 Taurus 39
• pb8 sun at 20 Leo 43
• t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18
• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 47.

The last two sets are dark malefics, but without influence to an Angle.

His golden benefic is a nice one comprised of

• b8 venus at 14 Pisces 09
• pc8 jupiter at 15 Pisces 29
• C Asc at 14 Gemini 58. The Angle/venus is weak, and would have been made strong by a light, but there was none.

Bill Bradley
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Bradley is a former accomplished basketball player who later served three terms, from 1979 to 1997, as the U.S. Senator from New Jersey.

Bill Bradley Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—24Lib, c12—15Sco, c2—13Cap. C3—24Aqu b11—23Aqu, b12—22Leo, b2—15Lib, b3—16Sco
p>Bradley’s Set (a) shows us another (lighted) mars on an Angle which is, among other things, conducive to athletic performance.

His B MC in the same set with uranus, shown in Set (b), is good for flexibility and innovation. It occurs often in charts of liberal thinkers and progressives. (But don’t be fooled, it does not have to interpret that way.).

Bradley’s 8th chart election astrology was mostly malefic, but two important positive ones were (a) pc moon, ruler of c 8th house, at 27 Virgo 53 conjunct C MC at 27 Virgo 40 .and pc jupiter , ruler of C MC, at 27 Gemini 38R and (2) t jupiter at 17 Virgo 53 was in the same set with B Asc at 17 Virgo 48 and C Asc at 17 Pisces 37. I did not see a return Angle or light/venus.

His malefic sets were.:

• pb NN at 20 Cancer 10
• pb8 mars ruler of b 8th house, at 20 Capricorn 21
• b8 mars ruler of b 8th house, at 20 Capricorn 0
• b mars ruler of b 8th house, at 20 Aries 00. I have never before seen three mars tied together by a progressing node. Pb8 NN was at 21 Cancer 37 moving into the set.

• pc8 moon, ruler of c 8th house, at 8 Gemini 49 saturn at 8 Virgo 26 R.

• pb saturn at 2 Gemini 41R
• is conjunct b moon at 2 Gemini 50—a long-term depressive effect.

one dark malefic was formed by

• pc8 mars at 17 Scorpio 25
• return saturn at 18 Scorpio 07
• in the same set with c8 mercury, ruler of C MC and a light, at 18 Aquarius 39
• c saturn at 18 Taurus 05.

His second dark malefic was dependent on the locality of his return Angles. A check with Wikipedia showed that after his divorce from his wife, Ernestine, in 2007 he was living with Betty Sue Flowers, former director of the LBJ library in Austin, Texas. A check of white pages also gave Bradley’s address as Austin. The set was comprised of

• return Asc at 26 Scorpio 17
• c8 mars at 25 Taurus 57
• conjunct (through the Angle) b saturn at 28 Taurus 19
• c8 moon, ruler of c 8th house, at 27 Leo 39

Rachel Maddow
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As far as I know Maddow has not endorsed either candidate. As far as I know her job forbids it. She is host of MSNBC's “The Rachel Maddow Show,” a cable news show. Her choice of candidates can be deduced from watching her show.

Rachel Maddow Partial Harmonic Chart for Her 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—2Cap, c12—0Aqu, c2—21Ari. C3—17Tau b11—27Ari, b12—3Gem, b2—25Can, b3—20Leo

Maddow’s good fortune and social prestige is well represented by her jupter conjunct her C MC in Sagittarius. As well, her intelligence and involvement in media/writing/speaking are represented by sun conjunct mercury in the same set. B MC in the same set with uranus suggests a progressive, inconoclastic or in her case, probably, muckraking individual,

Her sets for the loss are:

• pb8 sun, ruler of b 3rd house, at 0 Taurus 58
• pc mars co-ruler (17 of 26°) of c 8th house

• pb saturn ruler of b 8th house, at 25 Taurus 48
• b8 sun, ruler of b 3rd house, at 25 Aquarius 57

The above two sets show her intellectual disappointment in election results.

• pC MC at 21 Capricorn 46
• c8 moon at 22 Aries 03
• b8 moon at 21 Cancer 04
• pc8 neptune, ruler of C Asc at 21 Cancer 21R
• c8 mars co-ruler of c 8th house, at 22 Capricorn 41. The latter seems too early, but the two moons bring it into progressed orb. This double Angle/2light/mars/neptune shows a sense of distress or disturbance.

• return (10/25/16, NYC where CNBC has its HQ) MC at 18 Leo 13
• return8 moon at 18 Taurus 02
• c saturn at 18 Taurus 33
• pc8 mars at 17 Aquarius 32

The above set is her election dark malefic.


Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—10Lib, c12—2Sco, c2—27Sag, C3—6Aqu b11—10Leo, b12—8Vir, b2—30Lib, b3—2Sag

Set (a) above with Angle/sun/saturn is a potential heart problem significator. It lacks 6th house influence, but could pick that up in other charts when one of those rulers joins the set. Consulting his Wikipedia biography, he had quadruple bypass surgery on his birthday in 2015.

Summing Set (a) with that pluto conjunct C Asc gives an Angle/(sun)/saturn/pluto—a set showing a need for considerable privacy.

The sets in his 10th chart reflecting the immense success of a golden benefic are two that have to be summed. (1) B10 jupiter at 22 Taurus 38 and c10 jupiter at 21 Aquarius 54 are in the same set with C Asc. And (2) the lighted Angular venus influence comes from c NN at 26 Taurus conjunct c uranus at 25 Taurus 18 and b10 sun at 25 Taurus 30 with b venus ruler of B Asc, at 26 Aquarius 16.

His pertinent election sets were:

• pb sun at 9 Gemini 07
• pb moon at 9 Virgo 32
• b8 mars at 9 Sagittarius 13
• b mars at 9 Pisces 55
• return (New York City, 11/8/16) MC at 9 Pisces 30

• pc saturn at 11 Cancer 22
• c8 sun at 11 Libra 15.

His dark malefic is comprised of Set (a) above (in the chart drawing) with pc mars ruler of C Asc, t 1 Libra 03 and return NN at 2 Aries 32. The sun and node, as lights, bring these planets all into one set.


Sean Penn
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Sean Penn Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—12Pis, c12—21Ari, c2—20Gem. C3—13Can b11—17Lib, b12—1Sco, b2—26Sag, b3—3Aqu

Set (a) above has b jupiter on an Angle with C Asc.

His sets germane to election outcome were:

• pb8 moon at 3 Capricorn 21
• return mars at 3 Capricorn 57 (early)

• pc8 moon at 23 Leo 23
• t8 saturn at 23 Scorpio 00.

• return8 moon at 17 Cancer 58
• c mars at 17 Libra 55
• b mercury, ruler of B MC and a light, at 17 Cancer 45.

• return8 saturn at 21 Scorpio 19
• b NN at 12 Leo 58
• b8 pluto at 23 Aquarius 12.

His dark malefic was comprised of

• pb NN at 20 Leo 46
• t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18
• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 47.

Angela Merkel
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Angela Merkel Partial Harmonic Chart for Her 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—30Gem, c12—1Leo, c2—18Vir. C3—16Lib b11—21Lib, b12—8Sco, b2—3Cap, b3—22Aqu

Merkel’s B MC conjunct Node/saturn would sink her politically, but this chart also has the following set:

• b jupiter at 18 Gemini 05
• c8 venus ruler of C MC, at 19 Gemini 37
• c8 neptune at 21 Gemini 57, and
• c sun, ruler of C Asc, at 20 Virgo 27

The above set is a golden benefic with influence to two Angles.

For the election she had the following:

• pc saturn at 11 Libra 27
• pC Asc at 11 Libra 31.

• return (10/8/16, Berlin) Asc at 5 Libra 22
• c saturn at 4 Libra 09
• b8 sun, co-ruler (22 of 49°) of b 8th house, and pc8 moon at 5 Aries 14.

Leonardo DiCaprio
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DiCaprio is a motion picture superstar and probably many other good things.

Leonardo DiCaprio Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—3Ari, c12—11Taui, c2—5Can. C3—30Can b11—11Can, b12—12Leo, b2—6Lib, b3—7Sco

DiCaprio’s Set (a) above is sweet enough—it shows a golden benefic in Pisces (a great sign for it because venus is well-placed and jupiter is exalted in Pisces), with influence to both 2nd houses. But he has another which occurs in all charts. It is comprised of b sun at 24 Libra 16 conjunct b venus at 25 Linra 30 in the same set with c jupiter at 26 Capricron 26 and c \mcrcury, ruler of C Asc in b 10th house and a light, at 27 Capricorn 30. That jupiter is a lighted jupiter in c 8th house, and can be summed with c venus at 6 Capricorn 06, also in c 8th house, to show golden benefic influence to an 8th house. (The light for venus is b mercury, ruler of B Angles, at 5 Libra 22.). This latter venus set, ironically, plays a part, shown below, in showing Clinton’s loss.

DiCaprio has a mixture of dark and golden benefics for his election astrology. So in the tally, I will declare it mixed, and if it were before the election, I would not use it in deciding the winner.

I do, however, have one set I think relative to Hillary’s loss. It started out as a lighted venus influencing two Angles (a):

• b uranus at 5 Libra 01
• b mercury, ruler of both B Angles and a light, at 5 Libra 22
• and c venus at 6 Capricorn 56.

Progressions to it for the election were:

• pc8 jupiter at 6 Capricorn 09
• pc8 saturn ruler of c 8th house, at 5 Aries 30.

The mercury in the set being is a light because of it rules two Angles. So everything that enters the set by progression or transit is effective earlier and even somewhat later than would be normal. Lights increase acceptable orb. So far this is another golden benefic.

Entering the set at (and before) 2:00 AM 11/9/16 we have (c):

• t mars at 5 Capricorn 05. To give an idea of how fast it was moving, it was at 4 Capricorn 57 at 10:00 PM the previous evening. By tming it turns the set into a dark malefic.

We still do not have anything that definitive, but if I assume he was in New York City for the Clinton celebration, then the MC for that reurn is 5 Capricorn 08, putting that mars right on it. Now, regardless of the other sets, it looks the astrology of a loss—an Angle/light/mars/saturn with influence to an 8th house.

THE TWO REPUBLICAN SEATS WITH AVAILABLE BIRTH DATA

John S. McCain
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McCain is running for re-election as the Senator from Arizona..

John McCain Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—27Gem, c12—27Can, c2—28Vir, c3—29Lib b11—22Can, b12—23Leo, b2—24Lib, b3—24Sco

Sets (a) and (b), with venus and mars respectively on Angles, suggest McCain is ready for love or war. That saturn in Set (a) is retrograde (and still so by progression), so though it is part of the set, it has been moving out and away from it his whole lifetime.

McCain’s election results are reflective of his position at the time. He was running for re-election, and at the same time was endorsing Hillary Clinton, the candidate of the “opposite” party. Accordingly, his astrology for election day shows a golden benefic and a dark malefic. I attributed the former to his own win, and the latter to Hillary’s loss, though I don’t know that I would have been able, prior to the election (without doing any more astrology—his 10th chart is highly supportive of his win for himself) to have figured out which was which.

Here are those two sets.

The dark malefic is comprised of

• pC MC at 20 Leo 22
• pb8 mars ruler of b 3rd and 8th houses, at 20 Scoprio 14
• t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18.

The golden benefic is made up of

• return (10/9/16, Phoenix, AZ) Asc at 11 Pisces 42
• return8 venus at 10 Pisces 00
• pc8 venus ruler of C MC and c 3rd house, at 11 Virgo 22
• return jupiter at 11 Virgo 37
• pB MC at 11 Virgo 42

Paul Davis Ryan
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Congressman Ryan is running for re-election in the U.S. House of Representatives. He is from Wisconsin.

Paul Ryan Partial Harmonic Chart for His 8th House (a.k.a. 8th chart)
Placidus: c11—4Sco, c12—24Sco, c2—26Cap, c3—9Pis b11—23Vir, b12—17Lib, b2—8Sag, b3—16Cap

A close look at the drawing above shows that one-by-one Ryan has Angle/mars, Angle/jupiter, Angle/neptune, and Angle/uranus. It is the Angle/jupiter one, Set (a), which is going to help him all his life with success and well-being. Right now, however, it is afflicted by pc saturn at 10 Aries 04 while that jupiter is afflicted by pc8 saturn at 10 Libra 44. So far as we know now, they are showing up primarily in his rough ride as House Speaker vis-à-vis his non-endorsement of Trump. Since it last well beyond the election, it may also work out as blocks and stops being house leader afterwards.

Ryan also had one dark malefic and one golden benefic for the election. In retrospect, it is easy to interpret them as the golden benefic representing his own win in his re-election and the malefic as him not wanting Trump’s win. Not that that meant he wanted Clinton to win. It is tricky.

Here are the sets:

• pc sun, co-ruler (30 of 43°) of 8th house, at 20 Taurus 38
• t saturn at 20 Scorpio 18
• t8 mars at 20 Aquarius 47. This set does not influence an Angle.

• return (10/2/16, Jaynesville, WI) MC at 2 Gemini 45
• t venus at 1 Sagittarius 33
• pb sun, ruler of B MC, at 1 Pisces 48
• pc NN at 2 Pisces 44. Return Asc at 3 Virgo 06 is conjunct c jupiter at 3 Virgo 30.

Tally
Results in table form are as follows:

CANDIDATE OR “SURROGATE”	WIN OR LOSS?
TRUMP CAMP
DONALD TRUMP	WIN
TIFFANY TRUMP	LOSS
DONALD RUMSFELD	WIN
IVANA TRUMP	WIN
DICK CHENEY	WIN
RUDY GIULIANI	WIN
RUPERT MURDOCH	WIN
RUSH LIMBAUGH	WIN
SEAN HANNITY	WIN
JACK NICLAUS	WIN
DAVID DUKE	LOSS FOR SELF
JERRY FALWELL, JR.	WIN
BOBBY KNIGHT	WIN
STEVN SEAGAL	WIN
CAITLYN JENNER	WIN
***************	********
CLINTON CAMP	WIN OR LOSS?
HILLARY CLINTON	LOSS
TIM KAINE	LOSS
BILL CLINTON	LOSS
CHELSEA CLINTON	LOSS
BARACK OBAMA	LOSS
JOE BIDEN	LOSS
POPE FRANCIS	LOSS
AL GORE	WIN
JIMMY CARTER	LOSS
JEB BUSH	LOSS
WALTER MONDALE	LOSS
TONY BLAIR	LOSS
DIANE FEINSTEIN	LOSS
JERRY BROWN	LOSS
MIKE BLOOMBERG	LOSS
BILL DE BLASIO	MIXED
RACHEL MADDOW	LOSS
KAREEM ABDUL-JABAR	LOSS
SEAN PENN	LOSS
ANGELA MERKEL	LOSS
LEONARDO DICAPRIO	LOSS

Here are the two Senate race results:

CANDIDATE	WIN OR LOSS?
JOHN MCCAIN	WIN
PAUL RYAN	MIXED

Personal Note
My dark malefic for election day was comprised of pc8 sun, ruler of c 8th house, at 23 Aquarius 23 conjunct pc8 mars, ruler of C MC and c 3rd house, at 23 Aquarius 11 and in the same set with t8 saturn at 23 Scorpio 00. Looking at how fast the latter was moving, at 2 AM on 11/8/16 (24 hours earlier) it was at 21 Scorpio 55, and 24 hours earlier than that, at 20 Scorpio 50. Return Asc was at 22 Aquarius 28.

Discussion
Typical American presidential election results can be looked at for 2 AM, plus or minus several hours each way, usually minus, the day after the election. For this election those particular moments in time do show one political party, identified with one candidate, experienced joy; while the other group experienced pain. They do show that that one particular group was highly likely to win. And, assuming that results like this continue to occur each election (I think they will) they show that for every election one particular party is predisposed, with varying margins, to win.

Moreover, what is being defined as the “political party” can be seen here to include various non-American individuals worldwide. We saw above that the Pope and Angela Merkel “lost” the election. Newscasters on each side won or lost according to their preference. So did famous people.

It follows, assuming Vladimir Putin really wanted Trump to win (it certainly appeared so), his 8th chart astrology would have demonstrated a golden benefic for the 2016 U.S. election. By itself it would tell us nothing about whether or not he interfered in the election.

In America in 2016 about 42% of eligible voters did not vote. We do not know anything about their astrology for the election.

The astrology for any individual, following birth, does not change its prescribed path from birth, nor do transits to it. For instance, for each of us the astrology for our 20th year plus transits is set. It is a function of the movement of the planets, directed to a future point, from each of our exact birth times. Planetary movements are so regular that software companies use formulas to create ephemerides of planetary motion. Because of progressions and transits we get change, but that change for each individual has a course set at the time of his birth. So, for instance, that 20th year astrology for each remains the same astrologically for all time. It is fixed and not dependent on cultural or personal factors.

Personal choice and individual will make some difference in how we each handle our astrology in that 20th year. But they do not change the disposing factors of the astrology. So, the astrology for all on election day 2016 was the same when they were born and will be the same two hundred years from now. Necessary current information is always who is running and who supports him.

So, in 1900 for instance, we cannot predict who (or even which party) will win the election in 1950 because in 1900 we have no idea who will be running.

If we move far enough away from the particulars of this (or any) election, we see that what occurs in democratic elections is a sort of rhythm best portrayed by the Chinese symbol of yin and yang and their continual flux in terms of dominion and recession relative to each other.

Here, from Alan Tsai, is a demonstration of how the Yin/Yang symbol—that icon of eternal rebalancing—came into being:

From www.chinesefortunecalendar.com by Alan Tsai, 1999
They used six concentric circles, marked the 24-Segment points, divided the circles into 24 sectors and recorded the length of shadow every day. The shortest shadow is found on the day of Summer Solstice. The longest shadow is found on the day of Winter Solstice. After connecting each lines and dimming Yin Part from Summer Solstice to Winter Solstice, the Sun chart looks like below [above here]. The ecliptic angle 23 26' 19'' of the Earth can be seen in this chart. The Ecliptic is the Sun's apparent path around the Earth. It's tilted relative to the Earth's equator. The value of obliquity of the Ecliptic is around 23 26' 19'' in year 2000.

There is usually a circle around the Yin/Yang symbol. It stands for the unity that together they create. The small circles usually inside the fattest parts of each demonstrate that a little of the opposite pole is always inside each and that nothing can ever become totally yin or yang.

It is clear in our voting democracy that power in government, in the form of new Presidents and their cabinets and appointees, changes sides every four to twelve years. We have an ever changing rotation of Republican to Democrat to Republican to Democrat. Only Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected to four terms, and even then, he died early in his last term. Now the president is legally limited to eight years, but his party’s power in Congress is not.

Every now and then the "alt-right" (national dictatorship) or the "alt-left" (communist dictatorship) comes into power and stays there for longer periods of time. This is not surprising because both types of regimes do not allow voting, or if they do, the result is fixed. The typical democratic swing from side to side is interrupted.

We have historical examples of regimes which have stayed in power for a very long time or even several generations, e.g., in North Korea. Stalin was in power for thirty-some years. Opposing groups still exist—those aligned with the dictator, and those not—but the opposition is not allowed the reality of acquisition of power. Unfortunately, I do not have the birth data to examine them.

The same fertile field for research, when data is available, likely involves kings and queens, popular and unpopular, dying in office or being ousted.

Here, from the book, The Act of Living, by Walter Carrington, is his statement about yin-yang as it applies to the rib cage in breathing:

It is a counterbalance of forces. The principle of counterbalance of forces is not just a philosophical matter, it is a very practical engineering principle. By getting the counterbalance correct, you can then minimize the amount of effort and energy to be exploited to get the large effects that you need.

Exactly so. That is why the two groups should work together for acceptable compromise. Or else. Or else huge expenditures of energy and money in “undoing” each other’s effects. That is, waste.

With President-elect Trump’s threats to dismantle all previous accomplishments, we appear about to see one of those huge expenditures of energy. But some of that is just deal-making bluff, so, it is Wait and See.

Until now, it has not been clear how tied together electional astrology is among candidates of the same party. Bernie Sanders midnight 8th chart for 9/8/1941 also contained the losing set:

• pc8 sun at 14 Libra 06
• c moon, co-ruler (15 of 37°) of c 8th house, at 15 Libra 18
• c mars, ruler of C Asc, at 15 Libra 31, and
• pc saturn, ruler of c 3rd house, at 14 Aries 58

This set would have been valid even if his birth time was off for several hours either way. He also had pc8 mars, ruler of C Asc, at 16 Pisces 03 conjunct c SN at 15 Pisces 45, an unpleasant set.

We saw that Bill Clinton, Biden, Obama, Carter, and Mondale etc. had losing astrology. (The disaffection of so many highly placed Republicans like the Bush family from their party’s candidate was unique to this election. Otherwise, their astrology--winning or losing--would have matched that of their candidate.) The Democratic astrology would remain the same--losing for this 2016 election--no matter who their candidate was. Therefore, no Democrat could have won.

The results shown above in the Tally say nothing about why or how the election was won or lost. They do not prove (or disprove) any fraud or cheating. They have nothing to say about the worthiness of either candidate. They do not prove that Donald Trump, from birth, was destined to become President of the United States. They do show that once he ran in 2016, compared with Hillary Clinton and her camp, he was going to win. His surrogates compared with her surrogates also show he was going to win.

From the point of view of these results, specific for "election day," then, it is impossible to say whether or not Putin's interference, FBI Director Comey's announcements, or Jill Stein's siphoning off of votes from Clinton contributed to, detracted from, or were indifferent to the final result. Or if changing any one of them or all of them would have made any difference. Teleologically, were they factored in the result, or were they exceptions?

It could be asked, what about Gore? He had winning astrology. Could he have run for president and won? Not unless all those Democrats and their surrogates were against him. That would explain his winning and their losing astrology. So what would his winning astrology have represented if he HAD run? I do not know. It is an interesting question.

Finally, the never-ending flux of governing political principles appears to have nothing to do with either party having a superior ideology or morality. Not that those arguments cannot be made, they appear not to determine what happens—who ends up with the power. Human life is caught up in this matrix of building, destroying, building, destroying. Each side considers itself the “builder.” and, in their process, becomes the destroyer of previous opposite-party accomplishments. That works out well enough when the swing to each side does not get too big. Otherwise, it gets very expensive.

Data Acknowledgments
Letters following the name show Rodden rating for reliability of birth time. As memory serves me, (AA) means verified by birth record on hand, (A) means something similar but slightly less reliable, B means from a biography, C means reasonably okay but not from verified public records, (DD) stands for "dirty data," i.e., not at all verified or verifiable, therefore unreliable. Birth dates are listed in the same order as presented in the paper.

Donald John Trump (AA)
Birth: 6/14/1946, 10:54 a..m. EDT. Jamaica, NY. From Astrodatabank, PT quotes birth certificate found online. Since the document was evidently posted by Trump, some caution is advised even though there is no evidence that the document was altered. Previously this entry was rated "A" (from memory) and had a birth time of 9:51 AM with the following source notes: LMR quotes a private source who obtained the data from his mother, confirmed by another astrologer who said, "He laughed, then called his mom."

Biography, “Trump, Donald John,” Microsoft (r) Encarta, Copyright 1994 Microsoft Corporation, Copyright (c) 1994 Funk and Wagnalls Corporation.

Biography: Trump, Donald J. and Tony Schwartz, "Trump, The Art of The Deal," Random House, Inc., 1987

Biography: Trump, Donald J. and Chester Leerhsen, "Trump, The Art of Survival," Random House, Inc., 1990

Conception:9/05/1945, 5:10:06 p.m. EDT, Jamaica, NY.

Tiffany Ariana Trump (A)
Birth: 10/13/1993, 12:50 p.m. EDT, West Palm Beach, FL From Astrodatabank, LMR quotes a newscast given less than 8 hours earlier.
Sy Scholfield quotes “The Donald Becomes a Dad Again, Maples Gives Birth at St. Mary's” by Mitch McKinney, Palm Beach Post, 14 Oct 1993, p. 18 “Tiffany Ariana Trump arrived at 12:50 p.m. Wednesday at St. Mary's Hospital after a labor that began more than 10 hours earlier.”
Concepti0n:12/31/1992, 1:31:54 p.m. EST, W. Palm Beach, FL.

Ivana Trump (AA)
Birth: 12/20/1949. 12:25 a.m. MET, Gottwaldov, Czech Republic. From Astrodatabank, LMR quotes a colleague, from her 6/1992. Lynne Palmer confirms the birth date, as on her passport, as in a tabloid.
Conception:5/11/1948, 9:08:22 p.m. MET, Gottwaldov, Czech Republic.

Richard Bruce Cheney (AA)
Birth: 1/30/1941, 7:30 p.m. CST, Lincoln, NE. Paul, MN. From Astrodatabank, Ste[jem {rzunu;pwsol qiptes data read frp, the B.C. 3/2001
Conception:4/20/1940, 7:17:36 p.m. CST, Lincoln, NE.

Donald Henry Rumsfeld (AA)
Birth: 7/9/1932, 5:40 p.m. CST, Chicago, IL. From Astrodatabank, B.C. in hand from the Wilsons. PT has on file a note (August 2005) from Victoria Williams of the Illinois records office stating that all births up until 1959 were entered in CST. Rumsfeld's record in ADB is therefore correct.
Conception:10/1/1931, 9:26:09 a.m. CST, Chicago, IL.

Rudy Giuliani (A)
Birth: 5/28/1944, 2:30 p.m. EWT, Brooklyn, NY. From Astrodatabank, October 2005 a source who wishes to remain anonymous wrote to PT that the time used here was provided by Giuliani's mother. Previously source notes said “Date given on the Internet with a time of 11:52:56 AM EWT, no source. On Claudia Dikinis' site, she thanks Mary Louise Bateman for this data but Bateman has no source. On ACT, Liane Thomas Wade gave 6:00 AM, no source. Dorothy Kovach rectifies to 9:20 AM.
Conception:8/21/1943, 12:43:21 a.m. EWT, Brooklyn, NY.

Keith Rupert Murdoch (B)
Birth: 3/11/1933, 11:59 p.m. AEST, Melbourne, Australia. From Astrodatabank, Gwen Stoney quotes a newspaper annuncement given in “A Paper Prince,” for “midnight ending the day, as the Australians calculate it.” sent to LMR 4/1987.
Conception:6/01/1930, 3:34:38 am AEST, Melbourne, Australia.

Jerry Falwell, Jr. (A)
Birth: 6/17/1962, 9:13 PM EDT, Lynchburg, VA. From Astrodatabank, LMR quotes a correspondent from news.
Conception:9/9/1961, 2L14;30 EDT, Lynchburg, VA.

Rush Hudson Limbaugh (AA)
Birth: 1/12/1951, 7:50 a.m. CST, Cape Girardeau, MO. From Astrodatabank, Eve de Alberich reported on 1/12/1999 that Limbaugh's mom had called the radio show to wish him Happy Birthday, and read the B.C. over the air, 7:50 AM during a conversation between him and his mom. Beth Koch reported that two other astrologers gave the 7:50 AM time.
Conception:4/1/1950, 2:30:24 PM CST, Cape Girardeau, MO..

Sean Hannity (A)
Birth: 12/30/1961, 10:30 AM EST, Franklin Square, NY. From Astrodatabank, Shelley Ackerman cites data from Hannity via a mutual contact.
Conception:3/19/1961, 8:06:32 AM EST, Franklin Square, NY.

David Ernest Duke (AA)
Birth:, July 1, 1950, 11:37 AM CST, Tulsa, OK. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand from Buell Huggins.
Conception: 9/22/1949, 9:33:37 AM CST, Tulsa, OK.

Jack William Nicklaus(AA)
Birth: 1/21/1940, 3:10 AM EST, Columbus, OH. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand from Frank C. Clifford (same in Contemporary Sidereal Horoscopes, Gauquelin Book of American Charts).
Conception: 4/10/1959, 5:02:38 PM EST, Columbus, OH.

Bobby Knight (AA)
Birth: 10/25/1940, 8:42 AN EST, Masillon, OH. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand from Frank Clifford.
Conception: 1/13/1940, 2:52:08 AM EST, Masillon, OH.

Steven Seagal (AA)
Birth: 4/10/1952, 1:54 PM EST, Lansing, MI. From Astrodatabank, Tashi Grady quotes him, BC.
Conception: 7/3/1951, 8:54:10 AM EST, Lansing, MI.

Caitlyn Jenner (William Bruce Jenner) (AA)
Birth: 10/28/1949, 6:16 AM EST, Mt. Kisco, NY. From Astrodatabank, BR in hand from Steinbrecher.
Conception: 1/14/1949, 11:03:58 PM EST, Mt. Kisko, NY.


Hillary Clinton (AA??)
Birth: 10/26/1949, 8:00 a.m. CST, Chicago, IL. From Astrodatabank, Celeste Longacre quotes her for 8 PM. Kt Boehrer writes (ACT online 11/2000), " I can confirm the 8:00 PM data. I have used this data for years (since before Bill became the presidential candidate the first time) and I received it from a very dear friend and good client who knew them well whose identity I cannot reveal."

(Jaume Martín, editor Rev. Astr. MERCURIO-3 (Spain) quotes recently deceased Swiss astrologer Alexander Marr for a rectified time of 7:58 PM CST.)

However Eileen Applegate quotes an article from the Chicago Sun Times stating, "Her mother went into Edgewater hospital after midnight and Hillary was born early on the morning of October 26th."

In an article in "Horoscope" magazine, November 1998, by Frances C. McEvoy: "Mother states in article to 'Chicago Sun Times' in 1992 that Hillary was "born in time for breakfast."

Basil Fearrington relates in January 2001, "A musician friend of mine played in the Democratic fund raiser for Al Gore in Manhattan this past summer. Afterwards he got a chance to talk to Hillary. Knowing my on-going love affair with astrological data (he is a student of mine), he asked Hillary what time she was born. Her exact words were, " I know it was very close to 8 AM, 4-5 minutes before or after."

Webuser Cmatr@aol.com writes that she was born in Park Ridge, IL. Pasmanabh rectifies to 10:45 AM, sidereal, submitted to AstroDatabank 7/2001. Alice Mason called on January 16, 2003 to report that she had talked to the Clinton Democratic Office in NY and was told by a helpful associate (who wished to remain nameless) that Hillary Clinton was born at a recorded 8:02 AM.

Biography: Laura Ingraham, "The Hillary Trap: Looking for Power in All the Wrong Places," 2000. In August 2005, a source who wishes to remain anonymous wrote: "I had asked Hillary Clinton whether she was born at 8 PM; she replied " I think so". Earlier I had asked her, her time of birth and she kept mum].• Dana Haynes reports that one website lists "Born at the stroke of midnight (12 AM CST" but no source was given. The AstroDatabank website comments on her chart include an unverified claim from Zayin Cohen claiming to be quoting from birth certificate saying "I can say that I have the correct Birth Time. 26 OCT 1947 2:18 AM Chicago,IL." A poster on Noel Tyl's website gives a rectified time of 01.29.37 AM.

In early Feb 2008 Arlan Wise wrote to the ISAR e-zine vol. 477 the following: "HILLARY CLINTON >from Arlan Wise to Marguerite dar Boggia.:I know this is hearsay, but, my chiropractor has treated Bill and Hillary when they come here (Martha's Vineyard) in the summer. She told me she had a conversation with Hillary about how they have the same astrology-both Scorpios with Pisces moons and both Leo rising. I haven't seen a time that gives Hillary a Leo ascendant but that's what she says she has. It definitely negates the 8:02 am time and adds to the confusion."

Estadella rectified to 8.05.40 CST. Starkman rectified to 01.55.40 CST Asc 10Vir31'
Conception:1/13/1947, 1:59:42 a.m. CST, Chicago, IL.

Tim Kaine (AA)
Birth: 2/26/1958, 7:59 a.m. CST, St. Paul, MN. From Astrodatabank, the source of this data is an uncertified copy of his birth certificate from the Minnesota Department of Health purchased by Patrick Watson. Watson possesses a PDF of the scanned image of the birth certificate.
Conception:5/18/1957, 10:55:12 a.m. CST, St/ Paul, MN.

William Jefferson Clinton (A??)
Birth: 8/19/1946, 8:51 a.m. CST, Hope, AK. From Astrodatabank, note in hand from Mrs. Virginia Kelley, Clinton's mom, to Shelley Ackerman with the time hand-written. She gave the same data in an interview with "Family Circle" magazine of 2/02/1993, p.23.

(Virginia Miller quoted Clinton for the time of 7:30 AM given without hesitation.

(David Maraniss "First in his Class" stated that Clinton was born one hour after dawn, "Details of his birth from Edith Cassidy's records, in possession of her niece, Myra Irvin. As his grandmother was a nurse who worked at the local hospital, she would probably have taken her daughter into the hospital for the birth." (Source detailed in the Notes section of the biography.) (Dawn is 5:24 AM)

(Kathy Forrest called 10/13/96 to relate that she had talked to Clinton's mom about four years back and that she had said he was born at 7:30 AM. Kathy asked "Are you sure?" and the mom said "I should be, I'm his mother." Virginia Kelley relates in the Maraniss biography that her Bill was an eight-month baby, despite his birth weight of nearly 8 1/2 lbs. Her husband, Blythe, returned from Italy where he was stationed eight months before Bill was born.

(Edith Custer sent a long letter from Rowena Wall dated 6/121/95 in which she related that when Clinton began his campaign she asked her mom, who lives in Pine Bluff, AR, to see if she could get his birth data. Her mom replied that she found the data in a book in the library that had the birth certificate in it, giving 3:44 AM. When this information was printed in AFA DX No.104 (5/02/92), both Mark Lerner and Ken Irving called the library but were told that no such book was there. When Rowena Wall asked her mom to double-check, the alleged biography could not be found, making the quote impossible to verify.)

Conception:11/08/1945, 12:13:28 a.m. CST, Hope, AK.

Chelsea Clinton (A)
Birth: 2/27/1980, 11:24 p.m. CST, Little Rock, AK. From Astrodatabank, news clipping in hand from Little Rock Newspaper dated 3/05/1980, stating the daughter was "a week old today," with the time of 11:24 PM. They had not considered the extra day of leap year; February 27 was confirmed by Cornelia Hansen through a letter from the White House. Judith Warner "Hillary Clinton" (Paperback Signet publication, 1/93) "Hillary went into labor 2/27/1980, 7:45 PM. After nearly four painful hours . . . . decided to perform a C-section." In July 2016, Sy Scholfield submitted her birth announcement card stating 11:24pm, posted on Twitter by Robert Yoon, CNN Director of Political Research [1]. Michelle Young emailed media information regarding the birth date and time of daughter Charlotte.
Conception:5/20/1979, 3:13:53 a.m. CST, Little Rock, AK.

Barack Obama (AA)
Birth: 8/4/1961, 7:24 p.m. AHST, Honolulu, Hawaii. From Astrodatabank, from a photo of his birth certificate posted on his campaign website, 2008.
Conception:10/25/1960, 1:06:43 p.m. AHST, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Joe Biden (A)
Birth: 11/201942, 8:30 a.m. EWT, Scranton, PA. From Astrodatabank, Marion March quotes Celeste Longacre from him in, “Welcome to Planet Earth,” 4/1987
Conception:2/06/1942, 7:12:48 p.m. EWT, Scramton, PA.

Pope Francis I (Jorge Mario Bergoglio)(AA)
Birth: 12-17-1936, 9:00 PM ADT, Buenos Aires, Argentina. From Astrodatabank, On 21 March 2013 Argentina astrloger Claudia Rizzi sent a copy of the original birth certifiace, which gives “veinte una” (21h) as birth time.
Conception: 3/6/1936, 11:19;31 AM AST, Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Albert Arnold Gore (AA)
Birth: 3/31/1948, 12:53 PM EST, Washington, DC. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand, Marion March.
Conception: 6/23/1947, 12:14:50 AM EST, Washington, DC..

James Earl Carter (AA)
Birth: 10/1/1924, 7:00 AM EST, Plains, GA. From Astrodatabank, Marion March quotes BC. CAO Times states that the time (normally CST) was set to EST for business reasons.
Conception: 12/20/1923, 5:00:24 PM EST, Plains, GA.

Jeb Bush (John Ellis Pierce Bush) (AA)
Birth: 2/11/1953, 8:50 PM CST, Midland, TX. From Astrodatabank, Richard Nolle quotes him b email. He first responded “in the morning” and when pressed to please look at his BC, changed the time to 8:50 PM/ (Formerly, LMR quoted a colleague for 7:00 AM from his wife, some years ago. Who's Who gives a birthplace of Houston, TX. Starkman rectified to 2:28:16 CST.).
Conception: 5.3.1952, 8:36:40 AM CST, Midland, TX..

Walter Frederick Mondale (AA)
Birth: 1/5/1928, 10:30 AM CST, Ceylon, MN. From Astrodatabank, Contemporary American Horoscopes, Gauquelin Book of American Charts.
Conception: 3/25/1927, 12:08:10 PM CST, Ceylon, MN..

Anthony Charles Lynton Blair (AA)
Birth: 5/6/1953, 6:10 AM GDT, Edinburgh, Scotland. From Astrodatabank, Caroline Gerard quotes BC.
Conception: 7/28/1952, 1:49:56 PM BST, Edinburgh, Scotland.

Diane Feinstein (AA)
Birth: 6/22/1933, 12:44 AM PST, San Francisco, CA. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand, Jack Fertig.
Conception: 9/13/1932, 3:28:25 AM PST, San Francisco, CA.

Edmond Gerald Brown (AA)
Birth: 4/7/1938, 12:34 PM PST, San Francisco, CA. From Astrodatabank, John Daniel quotes BC. (Same Gauquelin Book of American Charts.)
Conception:. 6/29/1937, 5:24:00 AM PST, San Francisco, CA

Michael Rubens Bloomberg (AA)
Birth: 2/14/1942, 3:40 PM EWT, Brighton, MA. From Astrodatabank, Frances McEvoy quotes BC, Vol. 13, p. 30 of the Massachusetts birth records for 1942.
Conception: 5/6/1941, 5:09:59 AM EST, Brighton, MA.

Bill de Blasio (Warren Wilhelm, JR.) (A)
Birth: 5/8/1961, 7:03 PM EDT, Manhattan, NY. From Astrodatabank, Shelly Ackerman writes per email 19312013 “May 8, 1961 @ 7:03 PM, Manhattan, My request to high level campaign staffer who asked him directly.
Conception: 7/31/1960, 3:33:41 AM EDT, Manhattan, NY.

William Warren Bradley (AA)
Birth: July 28, 1943, 11:37 AM CWT, St. Louis, MO. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand from Janice Mackay (Gauquelin Book of American Charts gave 11:20 AM, Crystal City MO in error.)
Conception: 10/18/1942, 12:34:23 PM CWT, St. Louis, MO.

Rachel Anne Maddow (AA)
Birth: 4/1/1973, 12:23 PM PST, Hayward, CA. From Astrodatabank, PT quotes BC in hand.
Conception: 6/23/1972, 1:18:33 AM PST, Hayward, CA.


John McCain (A)
Birth: 8/29/1936, 9:00 a.m. EST, Coco Solo Air Base, Panama Canal. From Astrodatabank. Mark McDonough called both the election office and Senator McCain's political office and was told that they had no copy of the medical records on hand. McCain's deputy press secretary said she had many astrologers call and had called his mother. Mom said “about 9 AM.” (On the Internet StarIQ.com quotes Rowena Wall for 9:00 AM “from two staffers in McCain's election office citing the medical records.” (Frances Rainbolt, who is a family friend of the McCain's, rectified his chart to 8:55:47 AM.)
Conception:11/19/1935, 1:54:46 a.m. EST, Coco Solo Air Base, Panama Canal.

Paul Ryan (AA)
Birth: 1/29/1970, 2:37 a.m. CST, Janesville, WI. From Astrodatabank, Patrick Watson quotes birth certificate, copy in hand, first reported in a blog, politicalastrology.com.
Conception:4/19/1969, 12:16:36 a.m. CST, Janesville, WI.


"No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Above by John Donne (1572-1631). It appears in “Devotions upon emergent occasions and seuerall steps in my sicknes” - Meditation XVII, 1624




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Richard Bruce Cheney (AA)
Birth: 1/30/1941, 7:30 p.m. CST, Lincoln, NE. Paul, MN. From Astrodatabank, Ste[jem {rzunu;pwsol qiptes data read frp, the B.C. 3/2001
Conception:4/20/1940, 7:17:36 p.m. CST, Lincoln, NE.

Donald Henry Rumsfeld (AA)
Birth: 7/9/1932, 5:40 p.m. CST, Chicago, IL. From Astrodatabank, B.C. in hand from the Wilsons. PT has on file a note (August 2005) from Victoria Williams of the Illinois records office stating that all births up until 1959 were entered in CST. Rumsfeld's record in ADB is therefore correct.
Conception:10/1/1931, 9:26:09 a.m. CST, Chicago, IL.

Rudy Giuliani (A)
Birth: 5/28/1944, 2:30 p.m. EWT, Brooklyn, NY. From Astrodatabank, October 2005 a source who wishes to remain anonymous wrote to PT that the time used here was provided by Giuliani's mother. Previously source notes said “Date given on the Internet with a time of 11:52:56 AM EWT, no source. On Claudia Dikinis' site, she thanks Mary Louise Bateman for this data but Bateman has no source. On ACT, Liane Thomas Wade gave 6:00 AM, no source. Dorothy Kovach rectifies to 9:20 AM.
Conception:8/21/1943, 12:43:21 a.m. EWT, Brooklyn, NY.

Keith Rupert Murdoch (B)
Birth: 3/11/1933, 11:59 p.m. AEST, Melbourne, Australia. From Astrodatabank, Gwen Stoney quotes a newspaper annuncement given in “A Paper Prince,” for “midnight ending the day, as the Australians calculate it.” sent to LMR 4/1987.
Conception:6/01/1930, 3:34:38 am AEST, Melbourne, Australia.

Jerry Falwell, Jr. (A)
Birth: 6/17/1962, 9:13 PM EDT, Lynchburg, VA. From Astrodatabank, LMR quotes a correspondent from news.
Conception:9/9/1961, 2L14;30 EDT, Lynchburg, VA.

Rush Hudson Limbaugh (AA)
Birth: 1/12/1951, 7:50 a.m. CST, Cape Girardeau, MO. From Astrodatabank, Eve de Alberich reported on 1/12/1999 that Limbaugh's mom had called the radio show to wish him Happy Birthday, and read the B.C. over the air, 7:50 AM during a conversation between him and his mom. Beth Koch reported that two other astrologers gave the 7:50 AM time.
Conception:4/1/1950, 2:30:24 PM CST, Cape Girardeau, MO..

Sean Hannity (A)
Birth: 12/30/1961, 10:30 AM EST, Franklin Square, NY. From Astrodatabank, Shelley Ackerman cites data from Hannity via a mutual contact.
Conception:3/19/1961, 8:06:32 AM EST, Franklin Square, NY.

David Ernest Duke (AA)
Birth:, July 1, 1950, 11:37 AM CST, Tulsa, OK. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand from Buell Huggins.
Conception: 9/22/1949, 9:33:37 AM CST, Tulsa, OK.

Jack William Nicklaus(AA)
Birth: 1/21/1940, 3:10 AM EST, Columbus, OH. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand from Frank C. Clifford (same in Contemporary Sidereal Horoscopes, Gauquelin Book of American Charts).
Conception: 4/10/1959, 5:02:38 PM EST, Columbus, OH.

Bobby Knight (AA)
Birth: 10/25/1940, 8:42 AN EST, Masillon, OH. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand from Frank Clifford.
Conception: 1/13/1940, 2:52:08 AM EST, Masillon, OH.

Steven Seagal (AA)
Birth: 4/10/1952, 1:54 PM EST, Lansing, MI. From Astrodatabank, Tashi Grady quotes him, BC.
Conception: 7/3/1951, 8:54:10 AM EST, Lansing, MI.

Caitlyn Jenner (William Bruce Jenner) (AA)
Birth: 10/28/1949, 6:16 AM EST, Mt. Kisco, NY. From Astrodatabank, BR in hand from Steinbrecher.
Conception: 1/14/1949, 11:03:58 PM EST, Mt. Kisko, NY.


Hillary Clinton (AA??)
Birth: 10/26/1949, 8:00 a.m. CST, Chicago, IL. From Astrodatabank, Celeste Longacre quotes her for 8 PM. Kt Boehrer writes (ACT online 11/2000), " I can confirm the 8:00 PM data. I have used this data for years (since before Bill became the presidential candidate the first time) and I received it from a very dear friend and good client who knew them well whose identity I cannot reveal."

(Jaume Martín, editor Rev. Astr. MERCURIO-3 (Spain) quotes recently deceased Swiss astrologer Alexander Marr for a rectified time of 7:58 PM CST.)

However Eileen Applegate quotes an article from the Chicago Sun Times stating, "Her mother went into Edgewater hospital after midnight and Hillary was born early on the morning of October 26th."

In an article in "Horoscope" magazine, November 1998, by Frances C. McEvoy: "Mother states in article to 'Chicago Sun Times' in 1992 that Hillary was "born in time for breakfast."

Basil Fearrington relates in January 2001, "A musician friend of mine played in the Democratic fund raiser for Al Gore in Manhattan this past summer. Afterwards he got a chance to talk to Hillary. Knowing my on-going love affair with astrological data (he is a student of mine), he asked Hillary what time she was born. Her exact words were, " I know it was very close to 8 AM, 4-5 minutes before or after."

Webuser Cmatr@aol.com writes that she was born in Park Ridge, IL. Pasmanabh rectifies to 10:45 AM, sidereal, submitted to AstroDatabank 7/2001. Alice Mason called on January 16, 2003 to report that she had talked to the Clinton Democratic Office in NY and was told by a helpful associate (who wished to remain nameless) that Hillary Clinton was born at a recorded 8:02 AM.

Biography: Laura Ingraham, "The Hillary Trap: Looking for Power in All the Wrong Places," 2000. In August 2005, a source who wishes to remain anonymous wrote: "I had asked Hillary Clinton whether she was born at 8 PM; she replied " I think so". Earlier I had asked her, her time of birth and she kept mum].• Dana Haynes reports that one website lists "Born at the stroke of midnight (12 AM CST" but no source was given. The AstroDatabank website comments on her chart include an unverified claim from Zayin Cohen claiming to be quoting from birth certificate saying "I can say that I have the correct Birth Time. 26 OCT 1947 2:18 AM Chicago,IL." A poster on Noel Tyl's website gives a rectified time of 01.29.37 AM.

In early Feb 2008 Arlan Wise wrote to the ISAR e-zine vol. 477 the following: "HILLARY CLINTON >from Arlan Wise to Marguerite dar Boggia.:I know this is hearsay, but, my chiropractor has treated Bill and Hillary when they come here (Martha's Vineyard) in the summer. She told me she had a conversation with Hillary about how they have the same astrology-both Scorpios with Pisces moons and both Leo rising. I haven't seen a time that gives Hillary a Leo ascendant but that's what she says she has. It definitely negates the 8:02 am time and adds to the confusion."

Estadella rectified to 8.05.40 CST. Starkman rectified to 01.55.40 CST Asc 10Vir31'
Conception:1/13/1947, 1:59:42 a.m. CST, Chicago, IL.

Tim Kaine (AA)
Birth: 2/26/1958, 7:59 a.m. CST, St. Paul, MN. From Astrodatabank, the source of this data is an uncertified copy of his birth certificate from the Minnesota Department of Health purchased by Patrick Watson. Watson possesses a PDF of the scanned image of the birth certificate.
Conception:5/18/1957, 10:55:12 a.m. CST, St/ Paul, MN.

William Jefferson Clinton (A??)
Birth: 8/19/1946, 8:51 a.m. CST, Hope, AK. From Astrodatabank, note in hand from Mrs. Virginia Kelley, Clinton's mom, to Shelley Ackerman with the time hand-written. She gave the same data in an interview with "Family Circle" magazine of 2/02/1993, p.23.

(Virginia Miller quoted Clinton for the time of 7:30 AM given without hesitation.

(David Maraniss "First in his Class" stated that Clinton was born one hour after dawn, "Details of his birth from Edith Cassidy's records, in possession of her niece, Myra Irvin. As his grandmother was a nurse who worked at the local hospital, she would probably have taken her daughter into the hospital for the birth." (Source detailed in the Notes section of the biography.) (Dawn is 5:24 AM)

(Kathy Forrest called 10/13/96 to relate that she had talked to Clinton's mom about four years back and that she had said he was born at 7:30 AM. Kathy asked "Are you sure?" and the mom said "I should be, I'm his mother." Virginia Kelley relates in the Maraniss biography that her Bill was an eight-month baby, despite his birth weight of nearly 8 1/2 lbs. Her husband, Blythe, returned from Italy where he was stationed eight months before Bill was born.

(Edith Custer sent a long letter from Rowena Wall dated 6/121/95 in which she related that when Clinton began his campaign she asked her mom, who lives in Pine Bluff, AR, to see if she could get his birth data. Her mom replied that she found the data in a book in the library that had the birth certificate in it, giving 3:44 AM. When this information was printed in AFA DX No.104 (5/02/92), both Mark Lerner and Ken Irving called the library but were told that no such book was there. When Rowena Wall asked her mom to double-check, the alleged biography could not be found, making the quote impossible to verify.)

Conception:11/08/1945, 12:13:28 a.m. CST, Hope, AK.

Chelsea Clinton (A)
Birth: 2/27/1980, 11:24 p.m. CST, Little Rock, AK. From Astrodatabank, news clipping in hand from Little Rock Newspaper dated 3/05/1980, stating the daughter was "a week old today," with the time of 11:24 PM. They had not considered the extra day of leap year; February 27 was confirmed by Cornelia Hansen through a letter from the White House. Judith Warner "Hillary Clinton" (Paperback Signet publication, 1/93) "Hillary went into labor 2/27/1980, 7:45 PM. After nearly four painful hours . . . . decided to perform a C-section." In July 2016, Sy Scholfield submitted her birth announcement card stating 11:24pm, posted on Twitter by Robert Yoon, CNN Director of Political Research [1]. Michelle Young emailed media information regarding the birth date and time of daughter Charlotte.
Conception:5/20/1979, 3:13:53 a.m. CST, Little Rock, AK.

Barack Obama (AA)
Birth: 8/4/1961, 7:24 p.m. AHST, Honolulu, Hawaii. From Astrodatabank, from a photo of his birth certificate posted on his campaign website, 2008.
Conception:10/25/1960, 1:06:43 p.m. AHST, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Joe Biden (A)
Birth: 11/201942, 8:30 a.m. EWT, Scranton, PA. From Astrodatabank, Marion March quotes Celeste Longacre from him in, “Welcome to Planet Earth,” 4/1987
Conception:2/06/1942, 7:12:48 p.m. EWT, Scramton, PA.

Pope Francis I (Jorge Mario Bergoglio)(AA)
Birth: 12-17-1936, 9:00 PM ADT, Buenos Aires, Argentina. From Astrodatabank, On 21 March 2013 Argentina astrloger Claudia Rizzi sent a copy of the original birth certifiace, which gives “veinte una” (21h) as birth time.
Conception: 3/6/1936, 11:19;31 AM AST, Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Albert Arnold Gore (AA)
Birth: 3/31/1948, 12:53 PM EST, Washington, DC. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand, Marion March.
Conception: 6/23/1947, 12:14:50 AM EST, Washington, DC..

James Earl Carter (AA)
Birth: 10/1/1924, 7:00 AM EST, Plains, GA. From Astrodatabank, Marion March quotes BC. CAO Times states that the time (normally CST) was set to EST for business reasons.
Conception: 12/20/1923, 5:00:24 PM EST, Plains, GA.

Jeb Bush (John Ellis Pierce Bush) (AA)
Birth: 2/11/1953, 8:50 PM CST, Midland, TX. From Astrodatabank, Richard Nolle quotes him b email. He first responded “in the morning” and when pressed to please look at his BC, changed the time to 8:50 PM/ (Formerly, LMR quoted a colleague for 7:00 AM from his wife, some years ago. Who's Who gives a birthplace of Houston, TX. Starkman rectified to 2:28:16 CST.).
Conception: 5.3.1952, 8:36:40 AM CST, Midland, TX..

Walter Frederick Mondale (AA)
Birth: 1/5/1928, 10:30 AM CST, Ceylon, MN. From Astrodatabank, Contemporary American Horoscopes, Gauquelin Book of American Charts.
Conception: 3/25/1927, 12:08:10 PM CST, Ceylon, MN..

Anthony Charles Lynton Blair (AA)
Birth: 5/6/1953, 6:10 AM GDT, Edinburgh, Scotland. From Astrodatabank, Caroline Gerard quotes BC.
Conception: 7/28/1952, 1:49:56 PM BST, Edinburgh, Scotland.

Diane Feinstein (AA)
Birth: 6/22/1933, 12:44 AM PST, San Francisco, CA. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand, Jack Fertig.
Conception: 9/13/1932, 3:28:25 AM PST, San Francisco, CA.

Edmond Gerald Brown (AA)
Birth: 4/7/1938, 12:34 PM PST, San Francisco, CA. From Astrodatabank, John Daniel quotes BC. (Same Gauquelin Book of American Charts.)
Conception:. 6/29/1937, 5:24:00 AM PST, San Francisco, CA

Michael Rubens Bloomberg (AA)
Birth: 2/14/1942, 3:40 PM EWT, Brighton, MA. From Astrodatabank, Frances McEvoy quotes BC, Vol. 13, p. 30 of the Massachusetts birth records for 1942.
Conception: 5/6/1941, 5:09:59 AM EST, Brighton, MA.

Bill de Blasio (Warren Wilhelm, JR.) (A)
Birth: 5/8/1961, 7:03 PM EDT, Manhattan, NY. From Astrodatabank, Shelly Ackerman writes per email 19312013 “May 8, 1961 @ 7:03 PM, Manhattan, My request to high level campaign staffer who asked him directly.
Conception: 7/31/1960, 3:33:41 AM EDT, Manhattan, NY.

William Warren Bradley (AA)
Birth: July 28, 1943, 11:37 AM CWT, St. Louis, MO. From Astrodatabank, BC in hand from Janice Mackay (Gauquelin Book of American Charts gave 11:20 AM, Crystal City MO in error.)
Conception: 10/18/1942, 12:34:23 PM CWT, St. Louis, MO.

Rachel Anne Maddow (AA)
Birth: 4/1/1973, 12:23 PM PST, Hayward, CA. From Astrodatabank, PT quotes BC in hand.
Conception: 6/23/1972, 1:18:33 AM PST, Hayward, CA.


John McCain (A)
Birth: 8/29/1936, 9:00 a.m. EST, Coco Solo Air Base, Panama Canal. From Astrodatabank. Mark McDonough called both the election office and Senator McCain's political office and was told that they had no copy of the medical records on hand. McCain's deputy press secretary said she had many astrologers call and had called his mother. Mom said “about 9 AM.” (On the Internet StarIQ.com quotes Rowena Wall for 9:00 AM “from two staffers in McCain's election office citing the medical records.” (Frances Rainbolt, who is a family friend of the McCain's, rectified his chart to 8:55:47 AM.)
Conception:11/19/1935, 1:54:46 a.m. EST, Coco Solo Air Base, Panama Canal.

Paul Ryan (AA)
Birth: 1/29/1970, 2:37 a.m. CST, Janesville, WI. From Astrodatabank, Patrick Watson quotes birth certificate, copy in hand, first reported in a blog, politicalastrology.com.
Conception:4/19/1969, 12:16:36 a.m. CST, Janesville, WI.


"No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Above by John Donne (1572-1631). It appears in “Devotions upon emergent occasions and severall steps in my sicknes” - Meditation XVII, 1624




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