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Merchant Mariners

In Britain they are referred to as Merchant Navy. They represent personnel who man the ships that transport goods and services covering a gamut of trading needs within or between nations. What would we do without the tanker whose precious cargo helps keep our automobiles a-rolling, but much more than that.

Seamen, like I, went to sea, to see the world. In time the luster wore off. After two years of sailing on luxury liners I had my fill. The leaving and returning from a voyage wears thin when one experiences the high and lows that attend to sailing This is my view, thankfully not the view of others who serve for year upon years, in a service that is necessary in supplying our needs.

Shipping companies hire personnel who having references appropriate for the job description that needs to be filled. Thus they are not too different from that of onshore companies. Countries with a Merchant Navy require identifying credentials for their mariners. I being a waiter with good references from some well regarded hotels, like Selsdon Park Hotel near Croydon, The Grand in Weston-Super-Mare, The Highcliff in Bournemouth and Sandbanks, Poole in Dorset I was hired by the Union Castle Lines, to sail on their Carnarvon Castle liner bound for South Africa in April of 1954.

The War Years, the glamour of uniforms: without uniforms to identify them on shore, Merchant Mariners did not enjoy the special treatment and respect that uniformed officers could expect.

In the mid fifties seamen such as I who got to sail to NY would return dressed in Yankee garb and would thereby be categorized as Cunard Yanks. Wearing suits, ties and shirts that we would pick up at a Salvation Store for a few dollars.

Most merchant crews were made up of older men, and young boys, some as young as 15 years of age. A small number of women served with the Merchant Navy. These crews were given no formal training in survival or shipboard duties. Through their endurance and tenacity, they nonetheless survived five years of North Atlantic gales and U-boat attacks.

These brave men operated ships alongside, on board navy Defensively Equipped Merchant Ships (DEMS) personnel.
The Merchant navies kept a constant supply of food and essential goods traveling across the ocean throughout the Wars. Crews on tankers and ammunition ships worked daily with the knowledge that they had no chance of surviving a torpedo attack.

On Remembrance Day every year, we honour our war veterans and those who sacrificed their lives. The Merchant Navy is seldom included in these services, however, due in part to the non-military status of the Navy. It is time to recognize the contribution made to the war by the Merchant Navy and now, since 2000, a Merchant Navy Day is held on September 3rd. of each year. It was but a few hours after war had been declared against Germany on September 3, 1939, that the first shipping casualty occurred with the sinking of the Athenia. She was sunk with the loss of 112 passengers and crew. For almost six years there was barely a day went by without the loss of merchant ships and their crews.

From 2007 Onwards

I had the good fortune to happen upon free access to Ancestry.com, in early June of 2007. This is a website which houses a repository of information on family history and geanology. Such a fortuitous discovery to find categories on censuses, on ship arrival manifests and on nigh all us humans, alive or dead. Its quite amazing what is known about us and for a price. By comparison, with what the Ellis Island site offered where I would find but a dozen Rineys appearing on their database. Here was so much more to peruse, print or save as I saw fit. I was in for much joyous surprizes, when upon typing "Riney" as my search criteria to Ancestry.com, Viola! there I would see my name listed numerous times, showing arrival dates of ship's that I had sailed into the Port of NY on, in the mid 1950s. Each time as I recall, I would wonderingly answer "no" to the question "are you now or ever have been a member of the Communist Party." Browsing onward, and behold! there I would see Jery, Jerry, Jeremiah Riney's name listed on ship arrival manifests. The first was of 1920 (having one by the name Jeremiah listed as a passenger, then my thinking was, perhaps this Jerry was a first cousin of my uncle's). The dates on many ship manifests that followed relating to Wireless Operator Uncle Jeremiah Riney covered a span of years, from between October 1927 until September 1943. The ship names that were listed for my uncle were unknown to me, except for the "RMS Celtic," (which had a passenger bearing my uncle's name). Now armed with such wonderful information I still felt the need to seek proof by matching what I found here with whatever I would subsequentially come upon. Thus my quest began to discover whatever I might about an uncle who was lost to our extended family for over sixty years.

By the time a visiting English first cousin would be in New York around the Fourth of July, I had something to relate to him about our Wireless Operator uncle, Uncle Jeremiah Riney.

The year 2007 was also one that had me engaging with Mike Riney of Gleninchaquin on matters relating to geanolgy and based on his suggestion I had my Y12 DNA marker results extended to a Y25 and we would thereby have an exact match, as we should, if this technology is to be deemed worthy. Mike did not see any good reason for me to extend my DNA testing further. He suggested I use his more extended results for my DNA matching instead. Mike who now lives in Dublin and has been working on putting a Riney family tree together, was then engaging with American Rineys from the Kentucky region. They being eager to have a connection with us Rineys of Ireland and we likewise with them. Later in 2007, Carol Henning (daughter of Joseph O'Neill, once a Riney), who had started her own genealogical charting contacted me seeking information and I brought her to the attention of Mike whereupon he and she would then engage to match with the work of each other.

Time Sequence Leading to Discovery

At this point in time the reader cannot fully appreciate the forks in the road taken to navigate all that now appears herein. It being but a walk in the park, they may think. Nothing new here! just enjoy if this be of interest to you. The first date that appears to the left in each grouping indicates the date of a discovery.
June 1, 2007, accessing Ancestry.Com, some of Uncle Jeremiah Riney's sailings

Jeramiah Riney 15 Jul 1935 abt 1899 Male Buenos Aires, Argentina
  British (English) Argentino
Jeremiah Riney 23 Sep 1920 abt 1898 Male Queenstown
  Irish Celtic
Jerry Riney 12 Dec 1927 abt 1899 Male Cuban and Jamacian Ports
  Miraflores

June 2, 2007 - emailed my sons the following
Guys,

ancestry.com allowed a trial access to their database(s) for a few days - this period ends on June 3rd.

Last night I found info on my long lost Uncle Jerry Riney's comings to New York. I found manifests that recorded my comings as well - my St Thomas deserter notation on the manifest for my last Cunard voyage of April 22, 1956. Other voyages, other than the NY arrivals are not recorded on Ancestry.com

Have a look and see what you can access, given the speed of your ISP connections you won't have to labor as I have done.

This freebee ends on Sunday.

Love, Dad

June 9, 2007 - Combing WWW for info on ships that I sailed on
The Fleet
Once upon a time, Cunard ruled the waves. Its ships -- first Mauretania and Lusitania, later Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth -- were the fastest and most reliable at sea. Then somebody invented the jet airliner and the whole passenger-shipping business went to hell. Numbers dropped. Ships went cruising for their bread. Cunard stuck to its guns, though, keeping QE2 on the Atlantic until sheer doggedness gave it a certain cachet as the last of the old breed. Fleetmates came and went, including the little Sea Goddess yachts (now with SeaDream) and a number of midsize ships acquired from other lines, but QE2 soldiered on.

Back in the head office, things weren't so great. In 1971, Cunard was acquired by the Trafalgar House holding company and began a period of corporate troubles and shuffling ownership.

In April 1998, Carnival Corporation acquired Cunard from the Norwegian company Kvaerner Group. To some it seemed a comedown for the venerable line, but Commodore Ronald Warwick and other Cunard employees saw it as an unqualified boon. "To my mind," Warwick told a group of journalists, "Carnival Corporation were the white knights that saved us from demise, and when the planning of the Queen Mary 2 was announced, I experienced a feeling of pleasure and relief. They'd delivered a message to the world and to those of us on the 'shop floor' that they were determined to build on the maritime heritage for which our company has been famous."

Today Cunard is again very famous indeed after all the media attention that accompanied QM2's launch, but it's hardly the old British brand that its advertising might lead you to believe. In late 2004, for instance, the company was swallowed whole by Carnival Corp. subsidiary Princess Cruises. Its operations and staff were merged with Princess's at the latter's suburban Los Angeles headquarters, which meant crew members and officers would be rotated between the two lines -- a move considered blasphemous by many hard-core Cunard fans (but frankly, something that the average passenger won't realize or mind if they did). It remains to be seen whether Cunard will maintain an independent identity under the Princess umbrella or, like Celebrity Cruises when it was swallowed by Royal Caribbean in 1997, enter a period of identity crisis and uncertain market image.

Though QE2 is still in service (sailing mostly from the U.K.) and Cunard has a new liner named Queen Victoria set to debut in late 2007, QM2 is currently the only Cunard ship spending substantial time in North American waters.

June 15, 2007 - sought ships info like Fidra that my uncle had sailed on.
Fidra - http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/ship.html?shipID=2716

The "Marques de Comillas" was launched at Ferrol on March 1927. On 1961 caught a fire at shipyard Astano de Ferrol and due to the heavy damage and her age was scrapped on 1962. The three ships were commissioned on 1928.

The INDEPENDENCE was completed in January 1951 and she departed New York on her maiden voyage cruise to the Mediterranean on February 11, 1951. On April 12, she began sailing on American Export Line's New York - Genoa service, later diverting to a New York - Naples itinerary.

Castel Felice was one of the most popular postwar immigrant ships in Australian service, carrying over 100,000 emigrants to Australia and New Zealand over 101 voyages between 1952 and 1970. At just 12,150 GRT, she might have been a relatively small ship, compared to other migrant ships, but she felt and looked bigger than she really was. Thousands of Italian, Dutch, Germans, and other nationalities, sailed on her heading for a new home in Australia.

June 15, 2007 - found info on ship that I sailed from Cork City on
Cobh http://members.tripod.com/jhitchin/history.htm
SS Kenmare CITY OF CORK STEAM PACKET CO.LTD.
The name of ship I sailed on from Cork City bound for England in 1952.

?Kenmare,?1985; 565 tons; built at Newcastle by Messrs. Wigham Richardson & Co., for the city of Cork Steam Packet company, Ltd., Length 264.5 feet, breath 35.6 feet, depth 16.9 feet.

She was Torpedoed in the Irish Channel on Saturday, 2nd March 1918, between Holyhead and Rockabill Light, on a voyage to Cork, under the command of Captain P. Blackrock, and a crew numbering 33 all told.

The torpedo struck her amidships without warning, the force of the explosion being terrific, and she at once commenced to got down by the stern. Captain Black rock gave orders to launch the boats, and succeeded, with portion of the crew, in getting into one of them, but within two minutes the ?Kenmare? went down carrying with her the boat and its occupants, who subsequently came to the surface, struggling for life amidst the wreckage which floated about. Mr. Evans, the chief officer, and timothy O?Brien succeeded in getting into another, and as the ?Kenmare? went down they floated off, and seeing the donkey man, James Barry (he was 22 years in the ship) they pulled him on board, and a little later on came upon another capsized Lifeboat, from which they rescued the steward, James Wright. He was found with his head sticking out from the upturned boat, they had great difficulty in extracting him from his perilous position, as he could not assist himself owing to one of his arms being fractured. They also subsequently rescued the gunner, J. Brougham, and the carpenter, A. Philips, who were floating amongst the floating wreckage. At this time the cries of the drowning men t were piteous, but owing to the darkness, it was impossible to locate them, and after the cries had gradually died away, they had reluctantly to abandon the search.

At 8.00 a.m. the following morning the survivors were picked up by the SS. ?Glenside? and landed at the north wall , Dublin. The following were lost:- Captain P. Blackrock, R. Johnson, 2nd officer; Thomas Murphy, 1st engineer; L. Ogle, 2nd engineer; A. Shaw, 3rd engineer; J. Keehan and P. Corcoran, greasers; Wm. Lyons, J. Driscoll and Michael Coleman; James Fitzgerald and Michael Ahern, Trimmers; Geoffrey Grant, s. Bowen, quartermasters; R. McLaughlin, John Keeffe, M. Delea, P. Fennessy, P. McCartie, Wm. J. Good, Seaman; O. Kemp, cook; A. E. Aston, R. McAuley, gunners; E. McNamara, D. Sullivan and Wm. Hartnet, cattlemen. Total 27

The names of the saved were:- William Evans, chief officer; Jas. Barry, donkey man; T. O?Brien, fireman; A. Philips, carpenter; Jas. Wright, steward; and J. Brougham, gunner.

The ?Kenmare? narrowly escaped destruction by submarine on two previous occasions. On Sunday 7th June, 1915, she was attacked by gunfire off Youghal, but fortunately escaped with slight damage; and on the second occasion in January, 1918, when about seven miles off Hollyhead, bound from Liverpool to Cork, a torpedo just missed striking her, having passed only a few feet astern, right under the log line trailing from the taffrail.

June 16, 2007, accessing National Archives of Australia found;

Uncle Jeremiah Riney's application for WW II medals.
Applicant - RINEY Jeremiah : Born - 1 July 1899 : Place of Birth - Ireland : Application for - Campaign Stars and War Medal : Date of Application - 11 January 1961 Series number A11794 Control symbol RINEY J Contents date range 1960 - 1961 Access status Not yet examined Location Canberra Barcode

Uncle Jerry's nephew - son of his brother Michael
RINEY Peter James born 14 October 1940; Darrylin Ray (nee Taylor) born 23 October 1942; Andrew John born 10 August 1963; Sharon Jane born 25 September 1964; James Peter born 5 October 1966; travelled per ELLINIS departing Southampton on 17 March 1967 under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme Series number A1877 Control symbol 17/03/1967 ELLINIS RINEY P J Contents date range 1966 - 1967 Access status Not yet examined Location Canberra Barcode 7356851 60151931

Uncle Jerry's niece - daughter of his brother Michael
RINEY Dorothy Ann born 19 March 1945; travelled per aircraft departing UK on 26 May 1967 under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme Series number A1877 Control symbol 26 MAY 1967 RINEY D A Contents date range 1967 - 1967

June 17, 2007 - Record 27118 from 'Ireland-Australia transportation database'
Lastname: RINEY Firstname: DENIS Sex: M Age: 30 Soundname: R5000 Trial place: Co. Kerry Trial date: 17/06/1847 Crime desc: Cattle stealing Sentence: Transportation 10 yrs Ship: MEDWAY Document ref1: TR 6, p 100
June 20, 2007 - came upon Irish Famine Migration to New Brunswick
Riney, Tim - Age 50 Religion RC From Kerry Vessel Pero Port - Landed - Date - Location - Died/Discharged Died Date 1847.10.24 Condition Fever Note - Reference MC2700 MS2a1
June 20, 2007 - came upon Rineys with long presence in USA
Riney, Blandford, Mulligan, and O'Daniel families of Maryland and Kentucky : gives political, religious, and economic context, follows movement from England and Ireland, includes numerous family trees and photographs of allied families / by Thomas David Riney Riney, Thomas David, 1928-1997
July 5, 2007 - found "Ontario province 1901 canada census"
Surname Givens Age Province District Subdistrict Subdistrict
------------------------------------------------------------ Number Page Line
Riney Liza A 20 ON CORNWALL & STORMONT Finch c-7 9 44
Riney Robert 28 ON CORNWALL & STORMONT Finch c-7 9 43

1911
Surname Givens Age Province District Subdistrict Enumeration
------------------------------------------------------------ District # Page Line
Rinney Joseph 25 Quebec Montreal Ste. Anne ward 42 7 36

July 4, 2007 - email engaging with Mike Riney on DNA/geanology
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:28:49 -0400 From: riney@worldnet.att.net To: rye1967@hotmail.com; pjr@patriney.com; sara.riney@gmail.com; jrriney@bellsouth.net; eriney@yahoo.com Subject: Rineys - questions/plans and such

I appreciate being copied on email exchanges so that I can inform / question to excite others about the good work you, Mike, have embarked upon. The plans made by Jim for a trip that I sense will trigger more discovery.

Working in Dublin and meeting with Rineys branches there must be a kick. Knowing as we do that our origin was in the area in which your Dad resides. Rineys going back to early 1600s perhaps.

Mike, my brother Jerry told me of your contact and your request for dates of births for our father Joe Riney's family - Dad being son of Denis who was born to John(1834).

Likewise on Tuesday my first cousin, Brendan Riney (Uncle Jack's son) of Kent, UK, told me of you contacting him also. He and family will be returning on the QM2 after five weeks of cruising, NY and Carribean, and points of interests ashore in US and Canada. His daughter expressed interest in knowing more about her Grandmother (Uncle Jack's wife) she was a "Siney" from County Cork. Should you have knowledge of any Sineys I'd appreciate any info in that regard.

My Dad's brother, my Uncle Jeremiah, the wireless operator who sailed on ships far and wide but who became lost to us, was born in 1899 as I found on NY ship arrival manifests. His family if he had any, would be nice to know to be added to your database.

I'm impressed with all those seeking answers on how Rineys got from here to there and beyond.
Slainte, Denis (Suffern, NY)

Maybe a meeting of Rineys in Kenmare is due - a suggestion of my cousin John Riney of Kent, Connecticut, brother of Denis in Sneem, sons of my Dad's brother my Uncle Dan.

June 22, 2007 - WWW, snippets on a convoy and on Irish history

Note that she's also mentioned in Convoy RU 84 from Reykjavik at the beginning of Aug.-1943; I get the understanding she was to join the westbound North Atlantic Convoy ON 195 together with Bajamar (which had also been in HX 248). Towards the end of that month Bañaderos is mentioned in connection with Convoy HX 253, destination St. John's, then at the end of Oct.-1943 she again shows up in a convoy from Reykjavik, namely RU 95. Her destination is given as Avonmouth, cargo of U.S. Government stores. Follow the links for more details on these convoys.

http://www.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish/unit_2.html http://www.ewtn.com/library/HUMANITY/SLAVES.TXT

Ould UK Protector - To Hell or to Connaught / West Indies

The brutal oppression by a tyrannical foreign government of 80,000 Irish intellectuals, who were put in chains and shipped to the British West Indies against their will, to work as slaves; in the fields (circa 1649). The deliberate destruction of all Irish religious and cultural symbols (churches, schools and libraries) in Ireland and the taking away of all civil rights; of the Irish citizens, while forcing the Irish property owners off of their land. The slaughtering of thousands of innocent civilians using the term, "Divine Providence," by an English madman, Sir Oliver Cromwell, as his armies swept across Ireland acting out his personal vengeance against the Irish people. To try and degrade an entire population by trying to destroy the Irish will to live and survive for over two hundred years. A sad chapter of a colonial empire whose arrogance, brutality and the subjugation of the people it conquered could easily be ranked as possibly the most evil of all the world's monarchies, when compared to any of the Asiatic despots, who roamed the world seeking power and wealth. Added to this tragedy was an equally tragic calamity, the Irish potato famine of 1846-1850. Author: Lawrence R. Kelleher
July 27, 2007 - Feedback from National Archives of Australia (inq07/13865)
Dear Irene,

I so very much appreciate your feedback and the time you've taken on my behalf. The information you've provided me is precious.

The note in which he lists some of the ships he sailed on during the war will serve to hopefully provide proof of this gentleman being truly my long lost uncle.

I would like a photocopy quote for the file.

My Address :
Denis B. Riney ///////

Thanks to you, Irene, our entire family will hopefully have an answer that has long been sought.

Most Sincerely,
Denis B. Riney (Co. Kerry born American)

August 24, 2007 - "we're a DNA match" Mike Riney and my email exchange
August 29, 2007 - National Archives of Australia Info on Jeremiah Riney

Aus Archives recently provided me with info on my long lost Wireless Operator Uncle Jerry Riney. He would have passed at this time. After his seafaring days (covering two world wars) was over I recently came to find he settled in Brisbane. The address he lived at in 1961 was 131 Edmondstown St., NewMarket Brisbane.

Would you be able to reference telephone books, books he had availed of from your libraries etc.

My Uncle submitted a request for stars and medal for his service years during WWII. It appears he had gotton some for his WWI service.

August 31, 2007 - armed with my NAA discovery, I set to emailing far and wide

Having found proof that my long lost uncle Jeremiah Riney had settled in Brisbane and had lived at 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket, Brisbane I now know that I have solved the mystery on where he settled. This recent discovery came about when I found a petition that he had submitted for service medals and stars for his WWII years of service. Australia's National Archives have provided me with photocopies of his application, and correspondence relating to his petition. He received his Stars and War medal on April 6, 1961 - he would be about 62 years then. He was a Wireless Operator on ships that were at one time or another torpedoed.

I'm assuming that he might have been living at the above address for perhaps ten or more years - yes, it is still a long time ago. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who may have known him - did he have a wife and children He had been missing to our Riney family since the late 1940s. I'd appreciate any info on him Thanks. My email Rineyd@aol.com should you have information.

Sincerely, Denis Riney

September 4, 2007 - Emails wanting to know more .......
Sandie,

My Uncle Jeremiah Riney submitted a request for stars and medal for his service years during WWII in 1960. He picked them up in Brisbane, Australia on April 6, 1961.

It appears he had gotton his WWI service also but lost them based on his letter to your office. I would appreciate knowing what those medals were or any information that you may have as to the ships he had sailed on over two world wars.

It was in July of this year that I learned something of his whereabouts. Our Riney family have been wondering what became of our Wireless Operator Uncle for nigh 60 years. While searching Ancestry.com online I found NY Ship Manifests bearing his name and my own, ships that we sailed into NY on. Excited by my discovery I luckily found his petition for medals on the National Archives of Australia - and some correspondence relating to medal and stars for his WW II service. The letter to your good offices and letters wondering at the delay in receiving them on a timely manner. He was living at 131 Edmondstone St. Brisbane, Australia in 1961. The following references quoted RG/Medals/AUS/DV 590580 (Australia had it as 890580)

He would have passed since but I would still like to know something of his life - if he had had a family and such. His WWI meals/ribbons and complete set of ships he had sailed on.

I'd appreciate any suggestion or support that you may offer.

Sincerely,
Denis Brendan Riney

October 4, 2007 - Feedback from Central eRefDesk, Librarian search

Thank you Paul so very much. I appreciate the time you've taken and the suggestions that you so kindly offered.

Best Regards,
Denis Riney

Central eRefDesk wrote:

Dear Denis ,

Thank you for using the Ask a Librarian service.

I have searched Ancestry database and some of the Birth , Death and Marriage records we have here at BCC Libraries . I could not find a record of your uncle .

I searched the White Pages and found a few matches for the name Riney , mostly in Western Australia but none in Brisbane . Perhaps it would be worth contacting some of these to see if they are relatives . Their details are at .. www.whitepages.com.au search for Riney - Western Australia , New South Wales etc .

I have searched Brisbane cemetery records but cannot locate a record showing Jeremiah Riney was buried in Brisbane.

I have searched Picture Queensland which is an historical photograph database but no luck there either .

Click on the link below to show a map of Edmondstone St , Newmarket , Brisbane > http://www.whereis.com/whereis/getMap.do?nref=homeMap

I am not sure how else to advise you on your search but I would recommend contacting the State Library of Queensland - John Oxley Library . http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/services/coll/jol

Please contact us again if you require further assistance.

Yours Sincerely

Paul

Brisbane City Council Library Service email: refc@brisbane.qld.gov.au eLibCat (library catalogue): http://elibcat.library.brisbane.qld.gov.au

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"Denis Riney" 4/10/2007 10:28 am >>>
Name: Denis Riney Address: // Town/city/suburb/country: //// NY USA Postcode: 10901 Email address: riney@att.net Library membership no. (if applicable, see barcode on back of card):

What is your question or information being sought (please be as specific as poss: Merchant Mariner - my Uncle Jeremiah Riney was living in Brisbane in 1961. He served on ships for the British Ministry of War Transport during WW II. Does the name "Riney" appear anywhere in your city. Were such a name to be - then perhaps these folks may be sons/daughters of uncle.

If you have already located some information on the subject please enter the inf: Having accessed the Australian National Archives I found a petition which had him living at 131 Edmondstone St, Newmarket, Brisbane in 1961 as I mentioned above. He no doubt has long passed on. I would appreciate and ideas help you may offer. Sincerely, Denis Riney

October 11, 2007 - Lord Sefton, possibly prompted by "Lepton," uncle's last ship
On December 29, 1906 Mrs. W. M McMillan launched the third ship at Dumbarton, giving her the name Lord Sefton. Again a spar deck vessel, with the split profile of poop, bridge and forecastle, and a bunker hatch abaft the bridge, she had a gross tonnage of 4,302, and a length of 374 ft.

Triple-expansion engines were supplied by Rankin and Blackmore, of Greenock, of 410 n.h.p., steam being supplied by two single-ended boilers. She was handed over in February 1907.

Steamer "Lord Sefton", delivered in 1917. She was one of three ordered from A. McMillan and Son, Dumbarton.

Like most ships those of the Herron fleet had their various mishaps during their voyaging, but most were not of any great moment to trouble the underwriters. On October 3, 1910, the Lord Sefton reported that she had been in collision with the steamer J. Duncan, one of J. T. Duncan and Company's ships, off the Foreland, in the Bristol Channel. The Foreland is situated two miles to the Eastward of Lynmouth, and is a good sheltering anchorage. The Lord Sefton had some plates and frames damaged.

The "Lord Sefton", sold to Meldrum and Sn'inson m 1922, became the "Essex Abbey", in which guise she is seen above.

Two ships were sold in December 1916, these being the Lord Derby, and Lord Sefton. Both went to P. Samuel and Company, and the price paid was £240.000. The Lord Derby had been on continuous service from the beginning of 1916 as a collier, army supply vessel, and coal and foodstuffs transport for the British and Allied governments.

On April 9, 1917, a submarine fired a torpedo at her in the Mediterranean which fortunately missed. However she was not so fortunate on December 28, seven miles S.W. by S, from St. Anne's Head, when she was torpedoed and sunk. Three lives were lost.

The Lord Sefton was used by the government in much the same manner, but she survived the war. In 1922 she was sold for the small price of £2.400 to Meldrum and Swinson, who gave her the name Essex Abbey. By February 1934, when she came on the market again, her value had risen to £4,500 when she was sold to German breakers as she lay at Fowey.

Bought Sold Built
1907 1916 Lord Sefton 1907 4302 0 9
Sold to P. Samuel & Co., December 1916. Sold 1922 to Meldrum & Swinson, renamed Essex Abbey. Sold February 1934 German scrappers.

Hello
Can someone tell me about the Lord Sefton, arriving in Ellis Island in 1920? (According to the Ellis Island site, anyway). Where was she from? Do any crew lists survive from that time period?

Taryn

Hello Taryn,
P.Samuel & Co were registered at Cardiff in 1907. They formed several companies, each with a single ship, but later consolidated them into the Universal Steam Navigation Co. The company was involved in general tramp shipping until it went out of business in 1925.[British Ocean Tramps, vol.2 by P.N.Thomas]

regards Ted

October 12, 2007 - MN Forum

Wondering if subject seaman (long deceased) had a family. Last known location in 1961 for this gentleman was Brisbane Australia. He was a merchant seaman during WWI & WWII and received medals and ribbons for service. Searching Australian data bases for anyone bearing his surname met with no success. Had he lived he would be approx 108 years old.

Perhaps someone out on the WWW may have had an seaman ancestor who may have known seaman Jerry Riney as a friend whom they may have knowledge of - to share, of his whereabouts around the 1960s and even before or afterwards and or where and when he died. The SS Banaderos was the last ship he sailed into NY on in Oct 1943. I saw evidence of him sailing (in 1948) to settle in Brisbane - or so it appeared.

Send email to [email]raigne@yahoo.com[/email] if the information I seek is known. Were I lucky to reach someone willing to impart such to me I would be most greatful.

Thank You..

Cunarder - Donnaca O'Raigne

October 13, 2007 - Search goes on and on ......

Jeremiah Riney of County Kerry, Ireland sailed on ships (tankers, freighters, munition) covering two world wars - received medals in Brisbane April 6, 1961 and wore them on Anzac Day April 25. Your efficient staff helped me with the form that helped me gain a photocopy of his petition written to apply for ribbons and medal for his WW II service. In WWII he sailed on ships chartered by the British Ministry of War Transport - the first such ship that he cites in correspondence that you have on him was the Finnish boat Fidra.

This was followed with a complimentary envelope indicating his arrival in Brisbane in Jan 1948 - he would have then been age 50. It had him leaving Hong Kong on the ship "Lepton." I've searched for it without success, neither have I had any success locating anyone named Riney living or dead in Australia today ... I've tried white pages etc. I wrote to the address you've provided but that was a long shot - too many years have gone by - so I didn't expect much except a miracle.

I wonder where he is buried, and if he had a wife and family and such. His address of 131 Edmondstone St Brisbane in 1961 makes me wonder if he was a renter, then into his 63 year, did he perhaps leave Australia and go somewhere ... ???

Do you happen to have any additional records that might help me to understand more of my mysterious long lost uncle.

Did the terror of sailing in the height of two world wars especially the Battle for the Atlantic where ships were being sunk faster than they could me made - effect him?

Just thoughts that might be worthy of expressing to find answers.

Again I'd appreciate any other ideas you may offer.

Sincerely, Denis B. Riney

Things that Intervened

The focus on my uncle changed when distracted by 1) a musical comedy that I starred in, and 2) a parking spot issue that resulted in my extra parking spot being taken away by the Condo Board. Today, January 29,2009 I am the sole owner on my Condo block to be impacted. Parked in my extra spot is none other than ..... you guessed it. The power of togetherness wills out. My writing to politicians of all hues and HUD then passing me off to Human Rights of NY yielded zilch.
August 15, 2008 - Back to focus on matters dealing with my Uncle Jerry
Sirs/Madam,

I've traced my uncle to Brisbane to address he had in 1961 - 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket where his petition for WWII service yielded a medal and ribbons for his service as Wireless Operator on ships on loan to UK's Ministry of War Transport during the War of the Atlantic. Looking at manifests of his ship arrivals in NY I noticed him being on Greek, Norwegian, Yugoslav ships etc. where his name Riney sometimes appearing as Riny, Reney ... He was born July 1, 1899 and some of the ships manifests his birth date seems to differ.

Would you have a record of his death and where he might have been buried.

I'd appreciate knowing anything that you may offer about a long lost uncle. One who served as a Merchant Seaman for a period covering WWI and WWII. A copy of a letter in the Australian National Archives that I received last year had him expressing a wish that he would be in possession of his WWII medals and ribbons to wear on the 1961 Anzac Day.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Denis Riney

August 18, 2008 - A response from Margaret of QLD Justice Brisbane
Margaret,
Based on your response to my hope that I might gain a hint as to when my long lost Uncle seaman might be buried (Brisbane, I having assumed) I'll have to wait until I'm about 100 years. Uncle Jerry was an older brother of my father who was the youngest. My Dad passed in 1987 in Ireland and as far as he knew then, his long lost brother was not known to have married, been divorced, had children, died until my discovery of last year. Why a question as to Uncle Jerry's death is deemed sensitive and leaves me to wait until I'm too feeble to care. Perhaps getting something notarized might suffice. Thanks again for your information and thoughts on what may be possible.

Regards, Denis Riney (formerly of Co. Kerry Ireland)

--------- Response -----------------
BDM-Mail wrote:

Denis

The Registry can not help you in your search. The records of the Registry can only be released to people who meet the requirements of our certificate access policy, pelase see attached.

I advise that this Office's certificate access policy requires written authority and identification from:

 The deceased's direct next of kin (i.e.: deceased's children, spouse)  for death registrations after 1958. If the children and the  spouse are deceased, then written authority and identification from the  grandchildren is required.

Should you wish to clarify any information please visit our website www.justice.qld.gov.

Kind Regards

Margaret Jensen Administrative Assistant Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages Department of Justice & Attorney General PO Box 15188 CITY EAST, QLD, 4002

Phone: (07) 3247 5819 Fax: (07) 3247 9146 Email: margaret.jensen@justice.qld.gov.au

Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the official position of the Queensland Department of Justice and Attorney-General.

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2008 2:15 AM
To: BDM-Mail Subject: Seeking info on Irish-born Jeremiah Riney who ended his days in Brisbane

Sirs/Madam,

I've traced my uncle to Brisbane to address he had in 1961 - 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket where his petition for WWII service yielded a medal and ribbons for his service as Wireless Operator on ships on loan to UK's Ministry of War Transport during the War of the Atlantic. Looking at manifests of his ship arrivals in NY I noticed him being on Greek, Norwegian, Yugoslav ships etc. where his name Riney sometimes appearing as Riny, Reney ... He was born July 1, 1899 and some of the ships manifests his birth date seems to differ.

Would you have a record of his death and where he might have been buried.

I'd appreciate knowing anything that you may offer about a long lost uncle. One who served as a Merchant Seaman for a period covering WWI and WWII. A copy of a letter in the Australian National Archives that I received last year had him expressing a wish that he would be in possession of his WWII medals and ribbons to wear on the 1961 Anzac Day.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Denis Riney

August 27, 2008 - BDM Mail
Margaret,
I appreciate your efforts on my behalf.

I printed the PDF files you sent me - the last two pages of the Application for Certificate appeared, one bearing large headings "IMPORTANT: YOU NEED TO SUPPLY PROOF OF IDENTITY" and the other "REGISTRY OF BIRTHS, DEATHS & MARRIAGES QUEENSLAND" the rest of the pages appeared black inked. Hope there was nothing blocked out.

I pray that what I've provided as attached PDF files will serve to satisfy the requirements for the information I seek. Should additional information be housed about him in your database I would naturally be interested in also. Wonder what may have happened to his medal and ribbons for WWII service.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BDM-Mail wrote:

Denis

I have passed your email on to another staff member and have been told that you may apply for a copy of the death certificate of your uncle as he passed away in Brisbane in 1966 without descendants.

I have attached the relevant forms.

If you wish you may scan and then email your application.

Please state on your application that he has passed away without descendants.

As postal applications are taking a number of weeks if required urgently I suggest you pay the priority fee and we also offer an international registered post service.

The Registry can only accept MasterCard or Visa credit cards. Please ensure you complete all the credit card details in full, otherwise it could delay the processing of your application. If you can not pay by credit card please send the fee in the form of an Overseas Bank draft, the amount in Australian currency, made payable to The Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages and drawn on a bank located in Australia.

Kind Regards
Margaret Jensen Administrative Assistant Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages Department of Justice & Attorney General PO Box 15188 CITY EAST, QLD, 4002
Phone: (07) 3247 5819 Fax: (07) 3247 9146 Email: margaret.jensen@justice.qld.gov.au

Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the official position of the Queensland Department of Justice and Attorney-General.

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2008 6:09 AM
To: BDM-Mail
Subject: Re: Seeking info on Irish-born Jeremiah Riney who ended his days in Brisbane

Margaret,
Based on your response to my hope that I might gain a hint as to when my long lost Uncle seaman might be buried (Brisbane, I having assumed) I'll have to wait until I'm about 100 years. Uncle Jerry was an older brother of my father who was the youngest. My Dad passed in 1987 in Ireland and as far as he knew then, his long lost brother was not known to have married, been divorced, had children, died until my discovery of last year. Why a question as to Uncle Jerry's death is deemed sensitive and leaves me to wait until I'm too feeble to care. Perhaps getting something notarized might suffice. Thanks again for your information and thoughts on what may be possible.

Regards, Denis Riney (formerly of Co. Kerry Ireland)

-----------------
BDM-Mail wrote:

Denis

The Registry can not help you in your search. The records of the Registry can only be released to people who meet the requirements of our certificate access policy, pelase see attached.

I advise that this Office's certificate access policy requires written authority and identification from:

* The deceased's direct next of kin (i.e.: deceased's children, spouse) for death registrations after 1958. If the children and the spouse are deceased, then written authority and identification from the grandchildren is required. Should you wish to clarify any information please visit our website www.justice.qld.gov.

Kind Regards

Margaret Jensen Administrative Assistant Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages Department of Justice & Attorney General PO Box 15188 CITY EAST, QLD, 4002
Phone: (07) 3247 5819 Fax: (07) 3247 9146 Email: margaret.jensen@justice.qld.gov.au

Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the official position of the Queensland Department of Justice and Attorney-General.

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2008 2:15 AM
To: BDM-Mail Subject: Seeking info on Irish-born Jeremiah Riney who ended his days in Brisbane

Sirs/Madam,

I've traced my uncle to Brisbane to address he had in 1961 - 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket where his petition for WWII service yielded a medal and ribbons for his service as Wireless Operator on ships on loan to UK's Ministry of War Transport during the War of the Atlantic.

Looking at manifests of his ship arrivals in NY I noticed him being on Greek, Norwegian, Yugoslav ships etc. where his name Riney sometimes appearing as Riny, Reney ... He was born July 1, 1899 and some of the ships manifests his birth date seems to differ.

Would you have a record of his death and where he might have been buried.

I'd appreciate knowing anything that you may offer about a long lost uncle. One who served as a Merchant Seaman for a period covering WWI and WWII. A copy of a letter in the Australian National Archives that I received last year had him expressing a wish that he would be in possession of his WWII medals and ribbons to wear on the 1961 Anzac Day.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Denis Riney

September 21, 2008 - Seeking info on uncle's "Resting Place" in Nudgee
Sirs/Madam,

I recently obtained a death certificate of my Uncle Jeremiah Riney who passed January 22, 1966 and was listed as being buried in Nudgee Cemetery on January 28 as certified by A. Maxwell. A witness at buriel was Gerard J. Nichol, RC., perhaps a minister.

Would you know where I might obtain the section and location within Nudgee Cemetery where he is buried. Based on the lack of information on the certificate one can notice the absence of family and those few who volunteered their support and the like. Medical attendant E.D. O'Callaghan of Mater Misericordiae Public Hospital certified that he last saw deceased Jan 22, 1966.

Would it be possible that your services were availed of those many years. I know its been a long time ago.

Should you have the information that I seek I'll be able plan have an identity for his burial site. I'll also be able to surprise my niece Dr. Catherine Riney at Brisbane's Royal Children's Hospital.

Thank you in advance for any help you may offer. Denis Riney

PS:
Uncle Jerry was a Wireless Operator who served periods covering WW I and WW II and who obtained Ribbons and Medal in 1961 while living at address 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket, Brisbane. A year ago I traced his whereabouts thanks to the National Archives of Australia and by browsing NY ship arrival manifests housed on Ancestry.Com database. His emmigration to Brisbane I would learn was in early 1948.

September 22, 2008 - Thank you - email to Anton Brown's Funeral Homes
Phil,
Thank you very much.

Denis

----------------------
online.enquiry@antonbrownfunerals.com.au wrote:

Hi Denis,

Thank you for your email. I have forwarded it on to the Nudgee cemetery for their assistance. I trust they will reply to you in due course.

Nudgee Cemetery 493 St Vincent's Road, Nudgee, QLD, 4014

ph (07) 3622 9696 fax (07) 3267 1134 email: cemetery@bne.catholic.net.au

Thank you for emailing Anton brown Funerals and I wish you luck in your search.

Phil McDonald Funeral Director

Anton Brown Funerals 100% Queensland Family Owned

www.antonbrownfunerals.com.au

Woolloongabba (07) 3217 3088 Aspley (07) 3863 4000

---- Original Message -----
From: "Denis Riney"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:56 PM
Subject: Death certificate from state of Queensland

Sirs/Madam,

I recently obtained a death certificate of my Uncle Jeremiah Riney who passed January 22, 1966 and was listed as being buried in Nudgee Cemetery on January 28 as certified by A. Maxwell. A witness at buriel was Gerard J. Nichol, RC., perhaps a minister.

Would you know where I might obtain the section and location within Nudgee Cemetery where he is buried. Based on the lack of information on the certificate one can notice the absence of family and those few who volunteered their support and the like. Medical attendant E.D. O'Callaghan of Mater Misericordiae Public Hospital certified that he last saw deceased Jan 22, 1966.

Would it be possible that your services were availed of those many years. I know its been a long time ago.

Should you have the information that I seek I'll be able plan have an identity for his burial site. I'll also be able to surprise my niece Dr. Catherine Riney at Brisbane's Royal Children's Hospital.

Thank you in advance for any help you may offer.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

PS:
Uncle Jerry was a Wireless Operator who served periods covering WW I and WW II and who obtained Ribbons and Medal in 1961 while living at address 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket, Brisbane. A year ago I traced his whereabouts thanks to the National Archives of Australia and by browsing NY ship arrival manifests housed on Ancestry.Com database. His emmigration to Brisbane I would learn was in early 1948.

September 22, 2008 - My response to David Molloy of Nudgee

David,
I am so appreciative of the information you have provided me and the suggestion you offered regarding my Uncle Jerry's possible entitlement for his service. I will pursue that avenue by applying to the Office of Australian War Graves. Such wonderful help rendered in such a short time - I'm glad I found Phil McDonald who knew the contact who would have the answer.

Thanks a million.

Sincerely,

Denis B. Riney

PS:
Just a point worth mentioning regarding his age at time of death - I would have him age sixty six (66) based on date of birth which had him born in 1899 on ship manifests that are in Ancestry.com The Australian National Archives data base has his DOB July 1, 1899.

Thanks also for the grapic file showing the peaceful green pasture over him.

++++++++++++++++++++++
September 22, 2008 - Nudgee Cemetery wrote: Burial location (6A-597)

Hi Phil

Jeremiah Riney was buried on 28 January 1966 aged 73 Years. The funeral was conducted by KM Smith Funeral Directors.

He was buried in Portion 6A, Allotment 597. (Photo Attached)

The funeral was authorised by the Public Trustee.

To this point we do not have any family contact and the grave remains unmarked.

Given his service he may be entitled to an Australian War Graves Monument, I think the family will need to apply to Office of Australian War Graves
Ph 3862 8604.

I hope this is helpful.

Regards

David Molloy

-----Original Message-----
From: phil@antonbrownfunerals.com.au [mailto:phil@antonbrownfunerals.com.au]

Sent: Monday, 22 September 2008 2:14 PM To: cemetery@bne.catholic.net.au
Subject: Fw: Death certificate from state of Queensland
Hi there,
We received this email that I think you will be able to assist with. I will email the sender and let them know I have forwarded it to you.

Thanks

Phil McDonald

Anton Brown Funerals 100% Queensland Family Owned

www.antonbrownfunerals.com.au

Woolloongabba (07) 3217 3088 Aspley (07) 3863 4000

----- Original Message -----
From: "Denis Riney" To: Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:56 PM

Subject: Death certificate from state of Queensland

Sirs/Madam,

I recently obtained a death certificate of my Uncle Jeremiah Riney who passed January 22, 1966 and was listed as being buried in Nudgee Cemetery on January 28 as certified by A. Maxwell. A witness at buriel was Gerard J. Nichol, RC., perhaps a minister.

Would you know where I might obtain the section and location within Nudgee Cemetery where he is buried. Based on the lack of information on the certificate one can notice the absence of family and those few who volunteered their support and the like. Medical attendant E.D. O'Callaghan of Mater Misericordiae Public Hospital certified that he last saw deceased Jan 22, 1966.

Would it be possible that your services were availed of those many years. I know its been a long time ago.

Should you have the information that I seek I'll be able plan have an identity for his burial site. I'll also be able to surprise my niece Dr. Catherine Riney at Brisbane's Royal Children's Hospital.

Thank you in advance for any help you may offer.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

PS:
Uncle Jerry was a Wireless Operator who served periods covering WW I and WW II and who obtained Ribbons and Medal in 1961 while living at address 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket, Brisbane. A year ago I traced his whereabouts thanks to the National Archives of Australia and by browsing NY ship arrival manifests housed on Ancestry.Com database. His emmigration to Brisbane I would learn was in early 1948.

September 23, 2008 - My email to War Graves Commission

Sirs/Madam,

I believe my Uncle Jerry Riney may be entitled to an Australian War Graves Monument for his service as Wireless Operator on ships over a period covering WWI and WWII. In 1948 he appears to have emigrated to Australia where in 1960 he petitioned for ribbons and medal for his involvement in The Battle Of the Atlantic. He received them in 1961 just in time for Anzac Day. Being hired by the British Minstry of War Transport he would sail on ships on loan to Britain bringing whatever the war effort required.

Uncle Jeremiah Riney was lost to our family until a little over a year ago when I accessed Ancestry.com and then the Australian National Archives and got a copy of letters and petition he had submitted for recognition of his WWII service - he allowed that he had lost his medals for WWI.

Recently I obtained a certificate of his death which then led me to find his unmarked buriel site in Nudgee Cemetery. He is buried in Portion 6A, Allotment 597. Thanks are due David Malloy cemetery@bne.catholic.net.au and Phil McDonald of Anton Brown Funerals who relayed my email and for his so considerate follow-ups.

The funeral was authorized by the Public Trustee. He had no family of his own. He would be was 66 at his death and not the 73 that is recorded as being his age upon death. Born July 1, 1899 that would make him 66 and a half.

I'd appreciate knowing of the steps I need to take to ensure that the bravery of my uncle is noticed by those entering the hallowed grounds of Nudgee. With such a memorial my large connected family will know what a hero we had in Uncle Jeremiah Riney.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Denis B. Riney

October 2, 2008 - Emailed KM Smith Funerals - GOT NADA Response

Sirs/Madam,

Having traced my uncle to Brisbane I have since obtained a certificate of his death which then helped me to learn that his funeral was conducted by your establishment. It was only a year ago that I found information about my long lost uncle. Previously I knew of him meeting his first cousin during his NY ship visits, the period of the late 1940s.

I'm seeking information about how I might set about getting a marker placed over my Uncle Jeremiah Riney's resting place. Perhaps you may advise where I might see samples (online) and the approximate cost to have a marker erected in accordance with Nudgee Cemetery rules.

In 1961 he lived at 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket from where his petition for WWII service yielded a medals and ribbons. He served as Wireless Operator on ships, on loan to UK's Ministry of War Transport during the War of the Atlantic. Looking at manifests of his ship arrivals in NY I noticed him being on Greek, Norwegian, Yugoslav ships etc. where his name Riney sometimes appearing as Riny, Reney ... He was born July 1, 1898, some of the ships manifests I found on Ancestry.com had his birth year, as mainly 1899.

Jeremiah was buried on Jan 28, 1966 in Nudgee Cemetery Portion 6A Allotment 597. The funeral was authorised by the Public Trustee. Listed as having no descendents I wonder if his emigration to Australia without letting his extended know of his whereabouts was to find peace an escape, as a consequence of trauma experienced during his many crossings of the Atlantic during the war years (The Battle of the Atlantic as it was called). Based on the age cited and being in the hands of Public Trustee he must have been living rough, barely surviving, up till his passing.

David Molloy of catholic.net who provided me with very useful information that helped to direct me to you. His email contained a grapic file showing an unmarked but well cared for, green grassy grave. My uncle's age upon death was recorded as being age 73 but based on his date of birth written by him on his petition, for medals to wear on Anzac Day 1961, he would, in 1966 have been age about 67 and a half years then.

Thanks in advance for your support.

Sincerely,
Denis Riney

October 6, 2008 - Emailed Nudger Mgr. David Molloy

David,

I hope you can render help to me once again after I explain the avenues I've pursued to date.

I contacted the War Graves Commission regarding an entitlement for service possibility that you so kindly suggested but alas the criteria was not met.

I also sent an email to KM Smith Funeral Directors hoping they might provide me with ideas on the marker that would be in harmony with your cemetery rules and what such may cost. I did not get a response.

Yesterday I found a site showing Nudgee Cemetery graves and the headstones that's on the graphic that I will pass along. Based on what I see I wonder about the cost and what inscriptions symbols (a shamrock and celtic cross) and how I might go about getting a marker placed over my uncle's resting spot. I would like to refect WWI & WWII service as Wireless Officer without governmental emblems. His name Jeremiah Riney DOB Jul 1 1898 - DOD Jan 22, 1966

Beyond this I wonder what might be allowed. I would naturally like it be known as like myself that he was formerly of County Kerry, Ireland.

Thanks again for your support on this matter and for what you have done for me before.

Sincerely,

Denis B. Riney

+++ feedback from Kerry Russell of War Graves ++++

Dear Mr Riney

Thank you for your email enquiring about official commemoration for your late uncle, Jeremiah Riney.

Firstly, let me explain, the program whereby the Australian Government provides commemorative plaques for veterans is the program of official commemoration. In 1922 the Australian War Cabinet extended official commemoration to all eligible Australian veterans of World War I who died following discharge where the Repatriation Commission certified that the death was attributable to war service. The War Cabinet again extended eligibility in 1942 to cover World War II veterans. Ministerial Directives extended cover to all Victoria Cross recipients in 1960 and to ex-POWs in 1994. Australia is the only country that officially commemorates its post-war dead and maintains those memorials in perpetuity. That death is attributed to war service is the eligibility criteria for all commemoration.

Further information about the eligibility criteria can be found on our website: www.dva.gov.au/oawg

However, all veterans who served in the forces are entitled to use the relevant Service emblem on a private memorial. The cost of providing the memorial would be the responsibility of the next of kin or the estate. Permission to use the Service emblem for a British veteran can be sought by contacting the British High Commission, BDLS, Canberra ACT 2600, ph: 02 6270 6651 or email dick.morton@fco.gov.uk.

I trust this information is of assistance to you. Please feel free to contact me should you require any additional information or clarification on this matter.

Yours sincerely

Kerry Russell Manager Post-War Commemorations

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:56 PM
To: NAT War Graves Subject: Merchant Mariner, Jeremiah Riney-Nudgee Cemetery Brisbane [TO BE CLASSIFIED]

Sirs/Madam,

I believe my Uncle Jerry Riney may be entitled to an Australian War Graves Monument for his service as Wireless Operator on ships over a period covering WWI and WWII. In 1948 he appears to have emigrated to Australia where in 1960 he petitioned for ribbons and medal for his involvement in The Battle Of the Atlantic. He received them in 1961 just in time for Anzac Day. Being hired by the British Minstry of War Transport he would sail on ships on loan to Britain bringing whatever the war effort required.

Uncle Jeremiah Riney was lost to our family until a little over a year ago when I accessed Ancestry.com and then the Australian National Archives and got a copy of letters and petition he had submitted for recognition of his WWII service - he allowed that he had lost his medals for WWI.

Recently I obtained a certificate of his death which then led me to find his unmarked buriel site in Nudgee Cemetery. He is buried in Portion 6A, Allotment 597. Thanks are due David Malloy cemetery@bne.catholic.net.au and Phil McDonald of Anton Brown Funerals who relayed my email and for their so considerate follow-ups.

The funeral was authorized by the Public Trustee. He had no family of his own. He would be was 66 at his death and not the 73 that is recorded as being his age upon death. Born July 1, 1898 that would make him 67 and a half.

I'd appreciate knowing of the steps I need to take to ensure that the bravery of my uncle is noticed by those entering the hallowed grounds of Nudgee. With such a memorial my large connected family will know what a hero we had in Uncle Jeremiah Riney.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Denis B. Riney

PS:
Just a point worth mentioning regarding his age at time of death - I would have him age sixty six (66) based on date of birth which had him born in 1899 on ship manifests that are in Ancestry.com The Australian National Archives data base has his DOB July 1, 1898 as per his handwriting on the petition he submitted, signed off on, upon receipt of his WWII medals in 1961.

Thanks also for the grapic file showing the peaceful green pasture over him.

October 7, 2008 - email of appreciation to David Molloy

Thank you David,

I am so appreciative of what you have provided. This is just a quick response to let you know that I will decide on one of the options that are available and will get back to you.

God Bless You.
Sincerely,

Denis B. Riney

October 12, 2008 - Email exchanges with most helpful Mgr. David Molloy

David,
Thanks again for all that you have done and for your offer of help to me.

I created a grapic of a headstone showing what I would like to see on it. I'm including the object in two forms one a jpg and the other as a pdf file. I hope you can make sense of what I was tring to convey.

My choice of headstone would be the 2,700 painted one. Given the symbols and what appears as my design I wonder about what this and any additional costs there be.

My graphic shows the base portion of the headstone example with a line written on it, I wonder if this is ok? I will not expect the shamrock symbol to be green as it may appear when viewing.

David, words are inadequate, the support you've provided to me, and your help in putting an end to my wondering about the whereabouts of a long lost uncle, now I know where his remains rests.

Thank you again.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

PS:
"IFS" mean Irish Free State which I saw on his ship's manifest(s), he having Wireless Operator training in Co. Cork after 1916. The Republic of Ireland came to be in 1949. ------ Original Message ------
Subject: RE: Jeremiah Riney Grave Memorial Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:27:03 -0400
From: Denis Riney To: Nudgee Cemetery

Thank you David,

I am so appreciative of what you have provided. This is just a quick response to let you know that I will decide on one of the options that are available and will get back to you.

God Bless You.
Sincerely,

Denis B. Riney

October 12, 2008 - Emailed the MNM Board

Dear Sirs/Madam,

I wonder if you might suggest/direct me to a source through whom I may gain a fuller appreciation of my uncle's service as Radio Officer (Wireless Operator) over the period of WWI and WWII. I wonder where his training began, methinks it was in Cork sometime around 1916/17. I also wonder if any entitlement due him for his service in life that may help to defray some of the cost of a memorial that I'm in process of installing in Nudgee Cemetery, Brisbane. Approx cost thus far is $3,000.

Uncle Jerry had been lost to our Riney family since the late 1940/early 1950s. Then thanks to Ancestry.com whose databases house manifests of ship arrivals into the USA I would get an appreciation of the ships my Uncle Jerry sailed on. I would also see the ships I sailed on between 1954-1956. A date of September 1943 was noted as my uncle's last ship arrival, on the "Banadaros."

Through the National Archives of Australia I would learn that he got to Brisbane in early 1948 by sailing from Hong Kong as a Steward on the "Lepton." In 1960/61 he sought medals for his Battle of the Atlantic during WWII where in corresponding for such he allowed that he had lost his WWI medals. Through his petition I would learn that he was hired by the British Ministry of War Transport which had him appearing on manifests of Greek, Yougoslav, Norwegian, Swedish ships, ships on loan to Britain. He described as having gotton off the Valaren in NY she would perish with all on board on her crossing attempt.

About a month ago I obtained his death certificate which revealed that he had no dependents, next of kin. He having died on Jan 22, 1966 and was buried in Nudgee Catholic Cemetery.

To reiterate I'm in process of having a headstone placed over his resting place since the War Graves Commission of Australia did not deem him entitled to a memorial for his Commonwealth service.

The contribution of Irish born to the war services be they from North or South are worthy of a burial marker for service when they are laid to rest. His passing involved Queensland Public Trustee, which leaves me to think that he was down on his luck. The trauma he must have endured dodging u-boats over the six years of what is called the Battle of the Atlantic must be the reason he set out for Brisbane to seek calm.

My search began June 2007 and I'm warmed on knowing that my uncle's contributions will not be forgotten. When his headstone is installed I will have solved a goodly portion of a hero's existance.

Thank you for any ideas/suggestions you may offer.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney (nephew of Uncle Jerry, living in NY)

10/18/08 October 18, 2008 - Emailed the Queensland Public Trustee

Sirs/Madam,

In seeking information about my Uncle who passed on Jan 22, 1966. His affairs were handled by Public Trustee as was noted on the certificate of his death. There were no descendents present. I came upon your web site yesterday Oct 17 and in the Unclaimed Money section found his name and an amount of 92.30 AUD that was unclaimed. There was no address listed for him. Many years have gone by since his passing but I found that he was living on 131 Edmondstone St, Newmarket, Brisbane in 1961 when he obtained his medals for his extraordinary service to Britain Ministry of War Transport as a Merchant Mariner.

I'm his nephew Denis who in July 2007 solved the mystery of a long lost Radio Officer uncle and found that he ended his days in Brisbane.

I'd appreciate knowing whatever your records may reveal about him. What happened to his medals? Was he on the street and was down in his luck.

I'm in the process of having a headstone placed over his resting place in Nudgee Cemetery, being aided by most helpful Australian gentleman.

I printed an Application to Claim his unclaimed money but it appears geared for someone living in Australia. I would be thrilled to have such amount not sent to a bank but in the form of a check (a document) to add to my many emails, mailing copies. Is such a possibility?

Thanks in advance for any information that you may have.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney (Suffern, NY) October 20, 2008 - I posted the following on a site allowing such
Question Asked by raigne on 10/13/2007 2:19:30 AM
Wireless Operator - Jeremiah Riney?
Wondering if subject seaman (long deceased) had a family. Last known location in 1961 for this gentleman was Brisbane Australia. He was a merchant seaman during WWI & WWII and received medals and ribbons for service. Searching Australian data bases for anyone bearing his surname met with no success. Had he lived he would be approx 108 years old. Perhaps someone out on the WWW may have had an seaman ancestor who may have known seaman Jerry Riney as a friend whom they may have knowledge of - to share, of his whereabouts around the 1960s and even before or afterwards or where and when he died. The SS Banaderos was the last ship he sailed into NY on in Oct 1943. I saw evidence of him sailing (in 1948) to settle in Brisbane - or so it appeared. Send email to [email]raigne@yahoo.com[/email] if the information I seek is known. Were I lucky to reach someone willing to impart such to me I would be most greatful. Thank You.. Cunarder - Donnaca O'Raigne

October 20, 2008 - Email exchanges with Mgr Molloy

David,

just a line hoping everthing is going well with you.

The stonemason's design will be emailed to me along with the invoice I presume and then I will provide by return email my credit card info. The procedure that I used to obtain my uncle's death certificate was by scanning a completed application which I then sent back as a PDF file within which was my credit card particulars. I also wonder as to the lenght of time it would take to complete installation after payment.

Thank you so very much.

Regards,

Denis Riney

October 21, 2008 - More email exchanges with Mgr. Molloy

Good Morning David,

I figure it is morning in Australia as of my writing. Over here its 11 PM.

Thank you for your feedback, I now have a better appreciation of what it takes, and what I should plan, respecting the US dollar amount required from my bank to be EFT triggered.

The news as to extra concrete not being required is very welcome.

Having not availed of such a service before I can now appreciate the timeframe required for such an undertaking.

I hope the stonemason does not feel there is a need to rush, after the 6-8 or so weeks having elapsed and a headstone placed over my uncle (whom I never knew) I will be most happy knowing his accomplishments are not forgotton. An uncle that I and members of our extended family always wondered of his whereabouts.

I'm humbled by your efforts on my behalf in interacting with the stonemason and more, that I can only but imagine.

God Bless.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

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Nudgee Cemetery wrote:

Good morning Denis

I have inspected the site and the good news is there is no need for extra concrete. I spoke to the stonemason this morning and he is currently putting together a proof for your approval.

Once you approve the wording, I will send you an Invoice via email which has our bank details for EFT. Unfortunately we do not have a credit card facility.

The order will be place on the same day as the account is settled. It is normally 6-8 weeks for completion.

I realise that there is a little bit of to-ing and fro-ing but this ensures that you only pay for what is required.

As soon as I receive the proof I will forward it to you.

Regards David

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 9:03 AM
To: cemetery@bne.catholic.net.au Subject: My uncle's Headstone

David,

just a line hoping everthing is going well with you.

The stonemason's design will be emailed to me along with the invoice I presume and then I will provide by return email my credit card info. The procedure that I used to obtain my uncle's death certificate was by scanning a completed application which I then sent back as a PDF file within which was my credit card particulars.

I wonder if this an acceptable approach.

I also wonder as to the lenght of time it would take to complete installation after payment.

Thank you so very much.

Regards,

Denis Riney

October 25, 2008 - Emailed dfat.gov

Hello,
my search has led me to a plot in Nudgee Cemetery where I am now in the process of having a headstone erected over his resting place. I wonder if his name is recorded on Anzac rolls due to a desire he expressed in correspondence that I found about medals for service he sought for the parade on April 25, 1961.

A petition I found on the Australian National Archives was that of my uncle who had submitted it in 1960 for medals due him for WWII service as Radio Officer. Such a find led me to understand that he was working for the British Ministry of War Transport and sought three medals, one of which for the Battle of the Atlantic.

In 1961 he appears to be living at 131 Edmondstone St. Newmarket and upon his death five years on his address was recorded as unknown. He had no descendents and arrangements at his passing was handled by QLD Public Curator.

It seems likely he came to stay in Brisbane in 1948 as a ship manifest has him sailing on the Lepton? from Hong Kong to Brisbane. A British Pacific Fleet support ship named Montclare (that he may have sailed on) which I found while surfing a day ago described this Admiralty converted merchant ship as going to and fro between Manas and Brisbane as part of the war effort in the Pacific, and by the end of 1945 returned from Hong Kong to England. Methinks he may have stayed behind in Hong Kong and possibly was suffering that syndrome that occurs with having survived u-boat escapes/attacks for over WWI and WWII years.

Any ideas/suggestion that you may offer is greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

October 30, 2008 - Emailing with David Molloy re: headstone

Thanks David,

the proof looks great. Its attachment matched the sample object that I sent a couple of weeks ago almost to a T. My wife thought it might be nice to have a separation after Jeremiah and before Kenmare, Co Kerry and seeing how nicely balanced things looked, I now wonder if her idea is worthy of being explored and as per what the stonemason's yea or nay may suggest.

The attachment on the red granite view was very usefull in my decision as to color and the timeframe for installation.

I would opt for the gray/black which I assume is the choice that is more in harmony with gravestones in Nudgee. I will therefore wait for stock to be available and for a subsequent February 2009 installation.

Black granite would be my preference unless the gray/black is the equivalent of the color that I've observed in cemeteries over here in NY.

Is the total cost (incl GST) $2915 US or Australian?

David, rather than having appended emails and attachments of large objects going back and forth over the Internet I thought it best to compose an abbreviated email of response.

Thank you again and again. A thank you also to those wonderfull craftspeople for their adherance to detail.

All is OK, David, I await the paperwork that may also reflect the one or two points that I've raised.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

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Hello Denis

Attached is a proof for your Uncle's headstone. The total cost will be $2915 inc GST.

The added expense being the two symbols and extra lettering.

The stonemason has advised that a red granite headstone (photo attached) could be supplied pre Christmas, if you prefer the grey/black he will have to wait for stock which would put installation into February 09.

Would you please advise that all is okay and I will forward the necessary paperwork.

Regards

David Molloy

October 31, 2008 - David Molloy of Nudgee

Thank you David,

you rightly stated the separation situation that the stonemason may provide an answer for.

the cost as expressed in Australian dollars and based on the current rate of exchange is no doubt pleasing. Given the present state of world's economies one wonders what may befall next.

I'll await your invoice and then proceed accordingly.

Thank you so very much.

God Bless.

Denis Riney

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Nudgee Cemetery wrote:
Hello Denis

I am sure the separation will be no trouble, I guess this is the reasons why your original request had upper and lower case for his town of origin.

A separation would or Hyphen make it clear that Kenmare is not Jeremiah's second Christian name.

The cost is in Australian Dollars and looking at our dollar it's a good thing we didn't finalise this 3 months ago when our currencies were about par with each other.

I will advise the stonemason that the preferred option is in black and installation next year is agreed.

I will forward an invoice in a separate email.

God Bless

David Molloy

November 3, 2008 - Thank you David Regards
Denis

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Nudgee Cemetery wrote:

Hi Denis

I spoke to the stonemason on Friday and he is going to do up a couple of proofs for you to choose from. Once he has done that I will attach our invoice with the email.

Regards

David

November 11, 2008 - emailed David Molloy

David,

I've decided on the Proof 3 design for the headstone. The designer(s) did a great job on all the proofs you sent me.

Thank you, and convey a "Thank You" to them.

Regards,

Denis

November 11, 2008

Thanks David.

My address is: Denis B. Riney 48 Yorkshire Dr. Suffern, NY 10901

Tel: 845-357-9133

Regards,

Denis

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Nudgee Cemetery wrote:

Hello Denis

I will pass on to the stonemason your thanks an I'm glad that the proofs were helpful.

I will be able to raise the invoice however, our system requires a few more details to set up a debtor.

Would you please let me know your address although we will still send the invoice via email.

Thanks

November 12, 2008

Thank you so very much David,

I will visit my US Alliance bank tomorrow to fill out the necessary wire/cable form required to trigger a transfer of funds. I'll then follow up with an email.

I hope this approach is OK.

The support you've provided to me is without a doubt special.

God Bless You.

Sincerely,

Denis

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Nudgee Cemetery wrote:

12 November 2008

Mr D Riney
48 Yorkshire Drive
SUFFERN NY USA 10901

Dear Denis

Monumental 6A-597
Thank you for your Standard Monument order.

We now enclose our invoice for $AU2,915 (including extra letters on inscription & symbols) and confirm that the monument will be painted white and have a grey/black granite, curved headstone with the inscription as per your proof.

It should be noted that the standard monument has reinforced concrete and therefore cannot be re-opened in the future.

Would you kindly let me know when you have arranged the bank transfer as I'll need to notify our Accounts Receivable Dept to watch for the transfer. As soon as payment is received, we will arrange for the work to be done and email you when it has been completed. Please note that the work will be done in early February due to the supply of the granite.

Please contact our office if you have any other queries.

God Bless

November 13, 2008
Dear David,

I went to my bank this afternoon to fill out the necessary paperwork to trigger an EFT. It is to take effect tomorrow morning. The dollar conversion will be reflective of what tomorrow rates will bring.

I will forward an email that the clerk/rep is to provide to me, when the action is taken.

The name of the financial institution, address and such being required on the form left my bank rep needing info that I did not have at the time. The Rep talked about a Swift Code and Wiring instruction from your bank. Upon returning home I performed a web search I was able to locate of the BSB number 064-786 which revealed this information that I then played back to my US bank.
Commonwealth Bank of Australia
branch Catholic Archdiocese Dev Fund
For street address (NBFI Agency to 064-000)
Brisbane, QLD 4000

My bank's EFTing of monies overseas seems to be a once in a while thing. On the basis of my BSB find I was able to satisfy their need for added info.

God Bless

Denis

November 14, 2008
David,

this is confirmation from my bank rep. Hope everything goes well with the process.

God Bless! Best Regards,

Denis

----- Original Message ------
Subject: International Wire Confirmation Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:09:45 -0500 From: MFlores@usalliance.org To: riney@att.net

Good Afternoon Mr Riney,

Below is the wire confirmation number for your International Wire processed today.

November 20, 2008 - Queensland Public Library Ms Ryan
Stephanie,

Thank you. I appreciate so much what you have done on my behalf.

My uncle Jerry had sailed on the Montclare in or around 1936 as per a UK ship's manifest that I found. The ship was converted to a submarine support ship by the Admiralty and saw service as part of Britian's Pacific Fleet in 1945.

Thanks to your finding my wondering about him perhaps sailing on the Montclare again and thus the means by which he may have gotten to appreciate and live out the rest of his life in Brisbane as he had, is put to rest.

Thanks again for your excellent support.

God Bless! Denis Riney

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State Library of Queensland wrote:

Dear Denis Those records are most likely to be held by the National Archives as shipping matters are Commonwealth affairs during this period. I checked the National Archives website and saw references to the Montclare but not linked to Jeremiah Riney. I rang National Archives of Australia who asked that I send the enquiry to them. I also quickly checked the Archives network in Britain, A2A but without result. You should be hearing from the National Archives of Australia soon. Yours sincerely Stephanie Ryan State Library of Queensland

State Library of Queensland

November 21, 2008 - Confirmation after my call to Nudgee

Dianne,

thank you for the receipt confirming success of the funds transfer. I also appreciate your explanation on the work to be undertaken on my behalf.

God Bless. Denis Riney

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Nudgee Cemetery wrote:

Hello Denis

Our city office has confirmed receipt of $2,915 on 18 Nov 2008. Attached is our receipt. We will order the monument with the stonemason today and when it is completed will email you a photo.
The work generally takes 8 weeks, all depending on how much work they have on and of course, Christmas holidays.

Kind regards
Dianne Ryan Office Co-ordinator Nudgee Catholic Cemetery

November 21, 2008 - engaged with Queensland Public Trustee on unclaimed monies
Having submitted a claim for Uncle Jerry's AUD 92.30, receipt of such was acknowledged by return email on September 23, 2008. Based on what additional documentation they cited I sought what I thought they might need.

Dear Sue-Ann,
my sister Mary mailed me a copy of my uncle's birth certificate yesterday, perhaps it may be useful to those who are charged to determine justification of my claim.
The name of Jerry appearing on the certificate was a surprize as apparently it was to the gentleman who created the copy for my sister. Jeremiah was the name my uncle used when applying for WWII medals while living at 131 Edmondstone St, Newmarket, Brisbane in Jan 11, 1961. The date of birth of July 1, 1898 that he provided on his application when seeking recognition for his war service matches that of his birth certificate.

On April 6, 1961 my Uncle Jeremiah Riney picked up his three medals: 1939-45 Star Atlantic Star War Medal
in Brisbane. I wonder what became of them? Any info that you may have about them and him would be greatly appreciated. I'm attaching a jpg grapic of his Birth Certificate. You will notice his dad's name Denis and mine being the same was pleasing to my grandfather. The special attention given me as a toddler on his farm excites me to this day - the wonders of farm living in the 1930's. My uncle Jerry was away at sea and I don't recall ever seeing him. Being a seaman myself for a two year stint on Cunard Liners in the mid 1950s I can but imagine the dangers of u-boat attacks in a time of war. In the Battle of the Atlantic a period existed where as fast as boats were being build they were sent to the bottom. The wireless operator job that was his in the employ of the Ministry of War Transport sailing on ships on loan to Britain had to be stressful. I found him appearing on Greek, Yugoslavian, Swedish, Norwegian ships based on NY ship manifests housed on Ancestry.com.
The Australian National Archives had him sailing on the Lepton from Hong Kong arriving in Brisbane January 1948. I've searched for that ship without success. Its only by asking and wondering someone somehow may have an answer.

Thanks for your support.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

December 17, 2008 - PT of QLD rep wanting my address to send me uncles ship list.

Christopher,

I appreciate so much for what you have done on my behalf.

My address : Denis Riney 48 Yorkshire Dr. Suffern, NY 10901 I wonder if you know Sue-ann Bolton

Sue-Ann.Bolton@pt.qld.gov.au I sent this email to Sue-Ann on Nov 21st and thought you might be aware of what I sent her regarding a little unclaimed monies left by my uncle. An email that I've taken the liberty to pass along to you.

Thank you so much for your support.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

Merry Christmas Wishes and a Happy New Year to you and yours.

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Christopher Martin wrote:
Denis

I now have the file back from the archives.

There is not much information there but a friend of the deceased, Cecilia McNally, asked for the medals initially, but did not come to the office to colllect them so they were sent to the R.S.S.A.I.L.A which was a veterans organization back in 1966.

I have found a British list of his ships on which he served between 1916 and 1948 on the file which I can send to you. What is your address?

Best wishes
Chris Martin

---- Original Message ------
Subject: Re: Application to claim unclaimed money - Estate of Jeremiah Riney
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:50:38 -0500 From: Denis Riney
To: Sue-Ann Bolton References: <491994EC020000530002A97F@pt-prd-grp1.pt.qld.gov.au>

Dear Sue-Ann,
my sister Mary mailed me a copy of my uncle's birth certificate yesterday, perhaps it may be useful to those who are charged to determine justification of my claim.
The name of Jerry appearing on the certificate was a surprize as apparently it was to the gentleman who created the copy for my sister. Jeremiah was the name my uncle used when applying for WWII medals while living at 131 Edmondstone St, Newmarket, Brisbane in Jan 11, 1961. The date of birth of July 1, 1898 that he provided on his application when seeking recognition for his war service matches that of his birth certificate.

On April 6, 1961 my Uncle Jeremiah Riney picked up his three medals: 1939-45 Star Atlantic Star War Medal
in Brisbane. I wonder what became of them? Any info that you may have about them and him would be greatly appreciated. I'm attaching a jpg grapic of his Birth Certificate. You will notice his dad's name Denis and mine being the same was pleasing to my grandfather. The special attention given me as a toddler on his farm excites me to this day - the wonders of farm living in the 1930's. My uncle Jerry was away at sea and I don't recall ever seeing him. Being a seaman myself for a two year stint on Cunard Liners in the mid 1950s I can but imagine the dangers of u-boat attacks in a time of war. In the Battle of the Atlantic a period existed where as fast as boats were being build they were sent to the bottom. The wireless operator job that was his in the employ of the Ministry of War Transport sailing on ships on loan to Britain had to be stressful. I found him appearing on Greek, Yugoslavian, Swedish, Norwegian ships based on NY ship manifests housed on Ancestry.com.
The Australian National Archives had him sailing on the Lepton from Hong Kong arriving in Brisbane January 1948. I've searched for that ship without success. Its only by asking and wondering someone somehow may have an answer.

Thanks for your support.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

December 19, 2008 - my email to RSL (retired veteran's org) re: medals gone

Dear Sirs/Madam,

My uncle passed in 1966 in Brisbane. His medals for service over two world wars were in the custody of Queensland Public Trustee where Uncle Jerry's friend Cecilia McNally (she passed in 1996) had initially asked for them but never came by their office to collect them so they were sent to the veteran organization R.S.S.A.I.L.A. in the year of my uncle's death. I wonder if you would know where they are stored. I'm eager to obtain my uncle's medals since he left no dependants. I, his nephew, being a seaman on Cunard Liners can identify somewhat with him. My search for Uncle Jerry starting in June 2007 was triggered by having access to Ancestry.com which enabled me to view ship manifests. This led me on a search for an uncle who was lost to our Riney family. On September 22, 2008 his death certificate arrived in the mail and I was thereby able to locate his unmarked grave (a graphic of which Manager David Molloy of Nudgee Cemetery provided).

A little on what I found.
Through the National Archives of Australia I was able to learn that he got to Brisbane in early 1948 by sailing from Hong Kong as a Steward on the "Lepton."
In 1960/61 he sought medals for his Battle of the Atlantic during WWII where in corresponding for such he allowed that he had lost his WWI medals. He expressed being hired by the Ministry of War Transport which had him sailing on ships of other countries on loan to Britain. During September 2008 I obtained his death certificate which revealed that he had no dependents, next of kin. He having died on Jan 22, 1966 and was buried in Nudgee Catholic Cemetery. I'm in the process of having a headstone placed over his resting place since the War Graves Commission of Australia did not deem him entitled to a memorial since he had not died in wartime. Some such an explanation.

A headstone will be erected over Uncle Jerry's grave during February 2009, such, made possible by the help Mr. Molloy rendered me.

Thanks in advance for any ideas/suggestion that you may offer.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

December 26, 2008 - emailed Brisbane History site

Dear Sir,
My uncle passed in 1966 in Brisbane. His medals for service over two world wars, were for a time, in the custody of Queensland Public Trustee. They told me of a Cecilia McNally (she passed in 1996) , apparently a friend of my uncles, who evidentially having asked for my uncle's medals never came by their office to collect them so they were sent to the veterans organization R.S.S.A.I.L.A. in the same year of my uncle's death.

Mr Fagan editor of the Courier-Mail emailed me death notices on Dec 22 & 23 of both my uncle and that of Dame Cecelia McNally, I saw a notice by Queensland Irish Association requesting their members attend the funeral of Ms McNally, their late member.

I wonder if a club member(s) may have information (stories to relate) about my Uncle Jerry who had been lost to our family since after WWII. He, as like Ms McNally may also have been a member of your association.

With tools that are available online I traced him to Brisbane where I figured he, in 1948 arrived there to settle. He died on Jan 22, 1966 and was buried in Nudgee Catholic Cemetery on Jan 28, 1966. He was erroneously listed as being age 73 but his birth was Jul 1, 1898.

My uncle left no dependants as his death certificate revealed and Qld Public Trustee tended to his burial arrangements. The search I began in mid 2007 led me to trace him to his resting place (6A-597) in Nudgee Catholic Cemetery on September 22, 2008.

Having designed a headstone worthy of a Battle of the Atlantic hero, a granite stone will be erected in February 2009 under Australian skies thank's to support rendered by cemetery Manager David Molloy.

Thank you in advance for any help/ideas your organization may offer.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney (formerly of Co. Kerry, as like my uncle)

Best Wishes for Happy New Year.

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PS: R M Smith Funeral Home AFDA handled my uncle's burial of January 28, 1966. My email of three months ago to them must have gone awry, or perhaps they have gone out of business. Nudgee Cemetery management so caringly stepped up to help me. So appreciative of the time and effort taken to interact with stonemason and others on my behalf.

December 26, 2008 - email to QLD history

Dear Sirs/Madam,

My uncle passed in 1966 in Brisbane. His medals for service over two world wars, were for a time, in the custody of Queensland Public Trustee. They told me of a Cecilia McNally (she passed in 1996) , apparently a friend of my uncles, who evidentially having asked for my uncle's medals never came by their office to collect them so they were sent to the veterans organization R.S.S.A.I.L.A. in the same year of my uncle's death.

Mr Fagan editor of the Courier-Mail emailed me death notices on Dec 22 & 23 of both my uncle and that of Dame Cecelia McNally, I saw a notice by Queensland Irish Association requesting their members attend the funeral of Ms McNally, their late member.

I wonder if a club member(s) may have information (stories to relate) about my Uncle Jerry who had been lost to our family since after WWII. He, as like Ms McNally may also have been a member of your association.

With tools that are available online I traced him to Brisbane where I figured he, in 1948 arrived there to settle. He died on Jan 22, 1966 and was buried in Nudgee Catholic Cemetery on Jan 28, 1966. He was erroneously listed as being age 73 but his birth was Jul 1, 1898.

My uncle left no dependants as his death certificate revealed and Qld Public Trustee tended to his burial arrangements. The search I began in mid 2007 led me to trace him to his resting place (6A-597) in Nudgee Catholic Cemetery on September 22, 2008.

Having designed a headstone worthy of a Battle of the Atlantic hero, a granite stone will be erected in February 2009 under Australian skies thank's to support rendered by cemetery Manager David Molloy.

Thank you in advance for any help/ideas your organization may offer.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney (formerly of Co. Kerry, as like my uncle)

Best Wishes for Happy New Year.

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PS: R M Smith Funeral Home AFDA handled my uncle's burial of January 28, 1966. My email of three months ago to them must have gone awry, or perhaps they have gone out of business. Nudgee Cemetery management so caringly stepped up to help me. So appreciative of the time and effort taken to interact with stonemason and others on my behalf.

December 26, 2008 - emailed also the above to Living heritage Brisbane

December 26, 2008 - emailed the same to Navy history site.

Dear Sirs/Madam,

December 29, 2008 - emailed this to RSSALIA (RSL)

RCIS19916
Which medal or award are you interested in?
Ministry of Transport and Civil Aviation - Llandaff, Cardiff UK Wireless Operator Mr Jeremiah Riney from 1916-1948 Three medals 1939-45 Star, Atlantic Star and War Medal. which were sent by Public Trustee Brisbane to RSSILIA in 1966, the year of his passing in Brisbane. His address based on Courier-Mail death notice was 27 Downing St. Spring Hill near to where his friend Dame McNally lived. He was involved in the Battle of the Atlantic of both world wars. She passed in 1996.

My search for my long Uncle Jerry began June 2007 and finding ship manifests of ships he had sailed on I would trace him to his resting place in Nudgee Cemetery. I'm in the process of having a headstone placed on his grave.

I wish to have his medals that were once in the custody of the QLD Public Trustee who passed them on to RSSALIA. My email to RSL trigered an email which directed me to you.

Good morning and a belated Merry Christmas and a great new year for you and your family for 2009. The only help I can give at this stage is to direct you to the following sites which we find informative and helpful.

http://www.awm.gov.au/
http://www.medalsgonemissing.com/

Good luck with your search and sorry we couldn't be of further assistance in this case.

Kind regards

Melanie Martin Administration Officer
RSL Queensland Branch 283 St Pauls Tce, Fortitude Valley Phone (07) 3634 9444 Fax: (07) 3634 9400 melanie.martin@rslqld.org LEST WE FORGET

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, 20 December 2008 9:48 AM
To: reception
Subject: Medals and such of my Uncle Jeremiah Riney

Dear Sirs/Madam,

My uncle passed in 1966 in Brisbane. His medals for service over two world wars were in the custody of Queensland Public Trustee where Uncle Jerry's friend Cecilia McNally (she passed in 1996) had initially asked for them but never came by their office to collect them so they were sent to the veteran organization R.S.S.A.I.L.A. in the year of my uncle's death. I wonder if you would know where they are stored. I'm eager to obtain my uncle's medals since he left no dependants. I, his nephew, being a seaman on Cunard Liners can identify somewhat with him. My search for Uncle Jerry starting in June 2007 was triggered by having access to Ancestry.com which enabled me to view ship manifests. This led me on a search for an uncle who was lost to our

Riney family. On September 22, 2008 his death certificate arrived in the mail and I was thereby able to locate his unmarked grave (a graphic of which Manager David Molloy of Nudgee Cemetery provided). In 1960/61 he sought medals for his Battle of the Atlantic during WWII where in corresponding for such he allowed that he had lost his WWI medals. He expressed being hired by the Ministry of War Transport which had him sailing on ships of other countries on loan to Britain. During September 2008 I obtained his death certificate which revealed that he had no dependents, next of kin. He having died on Jan 22, 1966 and was buried in Nudgee Catholic Cemetery. I'm in the process of having a headstone placed over his resting place since the War Graves Commission of Australia did not deem him entitled to a memorial since he had not died in wartime. Some such an explanation.

A headstone will be erected over Uncle Jerry's grave during February 2009, such, made possible by the help Mr. Molloy rendered me.

Thanks in advance for any ideas/suggestion that you may offer.

Sincerely,
Denis Riney

Listings of ships and dates of engagements and discharges as recorded by Ministry of Transport Cardiff UK office which they stamped Jan 28, 1959 and provided to him are now in my possession thanks to Public Trust Officer Chris Martin. Having medals of his WWI and WWII bravery will excite our large extended family. Uncle Jerry had no dependants. I his nephew appreciate more than anyone sea life having had a short stint sailing Cunard Liners in the mid 1950s.

December 29, 2008 - email from MedalsGoneMissing (creator)

Hello there Denis,

Wow, you certainly have done a lot of work and I am sure that your uncle would have been flattered to know the effort that you are putting in.

Thank you for visiting our site and I certainly hope that I can help you.

Without a doubt, to find out if your uncle’s medals are NOW in the hands of a private collector, you will need to do a listing on the website. The site is monitored by many collectors who constantly check to see if there are any listings of medals which they actually have in their collections.

Whilst Christmas is just over, in the spirit of Christmas – if you submit a 5 year listing.......I will have the website maintenance people extend the isting from a five year listing to a lifetime listing at NO EXTRA CHARGE. (It is normally U.S. $40) That way, whether your medals turn up next week or in ten years time.........if you maintain a current email address or keep your telephone details updated, we will be able to contact you and help you to recover them for your family.

We have only just returned an old 1903 pattern waterbottle carrier which was issued to a soldier by the name of SEATON to the soldier’s grandson......... so miracles do happen. (Just type in the name SEATON in the Advanced Search field to see the sale)

If Medals Gone Missing locates the medals for you..........there is absolutely NO CHARGE OR FEES and no hidden catches (the only thing that I would ask is that you agree to do a “Success Story” for us – but this is not compulsory) ..........this is a non-profit site and your fee is what is required to cover administration and web upgrade costs. As you can imagine, running a site like this has high running costs as it constantly needs to be upgraded. The only thing is, if the medals are in a private collection or the current owner purchased the medals, I have no doubt that they will wish to have their costs covered (this is usually the case, but there has been occasions where they were returned to the family – free of any charge....you never know your luck.)

Seeing that you are so determined to get these medals back, would you like to consider doing a story on him on the website?? If you look at the ARTICLES OF INTEREST field, you will see two stories (one on Jim Cowey and the other on the Manusu brothers) By supplying information to do a story and any photographs to make an article – it will give your listing a higher profile and improve your chances of having the medals returned. Plus it is a chance to show some “family pride” in what your uncle went through. I am happy to help you to write this story at absolutely no cost to you.

He is certainly a braver man than I !!!!!!!!!!! I could not imagine the terror of serving on a Merchant vessel in the Atlantic, with nothing to shoot back with !!!!!!!!!! And the chances of being picked up by a friendly boat (in U-boat territory) after being sunk was very slim. Not to mention the high possibility of death through hypothermia or drowning in oil covered water !!!!!!!!!!

Thank you again for visiting our website.

Gary Traynor

Director – Medals Gone Missing.

Web: www.medalsgonemissing.com

Email: customerservice@medalsgonemissing.com

From: customerservice@medalsgonemissing.com [mailto:customerservice@medalsgonemissing.com] Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 8:07 AM To: customerservice@medalsgonemissing.com Subject: User message from MedalsGoneMissing.com

Denis Riney (riney@att.net) left message on MedalsGoneMissing.com

I'm interested in my uncle's medals. Medals that were awarded by British Ministry of Transport and Civil Aviation - Llandaff, Cardiff UK. Wireless Operator Mr Jeremiah Riney from 1916-1948 over two world wars service. Three medals 1939-45 Star, Atlantic Star and War Medal that I know of which were sent by Public Trustee Brisbane to RSSILIA in 1966, the year of my uncle's his passing in Brisbane. His address based on Courier-Mail death notice was 27 Downing St. Spring Hill near to where his friend Dame McNally once lived. He was involved in the Battle of the Atlantic of both world wars. My search for my long Uncle Jerry began June 2007 and finding ship manifests of ships he had sailed on I would trace him to his resting place in Nudgee Cemetery. I'm in the process of having a headstone placed on his grave. I wish to have his medals, they for a time were in the custody of the QLD Public Trustee who passed them on to RSSALIA. My email to RSL trigered an email which directed me to you. This is the response I got. Good morning and a belated Merry Christmas and a great new year for you and your family for 2009. The only help I can give at this stage is to direct you to the following sites which we find informative and helpful. http://www.awm.gov.au/ http://www.medalsgonemissing.com/ Good luck with your search and sorry we couldn't be of further assistance in this case. Kind regards Melanie Martin Administration Officer RSL Queensland Branch 283 St Pauls Tce, Fortitude Valley Phone (07) 3634 9444 Fax: (07) 3634 9400 melanie.martin@rslqld.org LEST WE FORGET

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From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, 20 December 2008 9:48 AM To: reception Subject: Medals and such of my Uncle Jeremiah Riney

Dear Sirs/Madam, My uncle passed in 1966 in Brisbane. His medals for service over two world wars were in the custody of Queensland Public Trustee where Uncle Jerry's friend Cecilia McNally (she passed in 1996)she had initially asked for them but never came by their office to collect them so they were sent to the veteran organization R.S.S.A.I.L.A. in the year of my uncle's death. I wonder if you would know where they are stored. I'm eager to obtain my

December 30, 2008 - after signing on to Medals Gone Missing

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To: riney@att.net,

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December 30, 2008 - email engaged with Gary traynor of MGM

Gary,

I appreciate your kind and descriptive words that you expressed in your email response of yesterday. Within hours of my posting on your wonderful site I would receive your most welcome and lenghty feedback.

Your words on imagining what seamen's life as being throughout those Battles of the Atlantic trips, be they ships sailing alone or as part of a convoy, were powerful. The two years I sailed on, primarily, Cunard Liners in the mid 1950s held out no terror thoughts for me then.

I read the two articles that you recommended. These were stories of courage and sacrifice. Twice injured Jim Cowey and reinlisting at age 50 to protect the younger comrades. Giving up medals was an indicator of perhaps trauma suffered. The Manusu brother's loss and in one way or another the devastating ripple effects it had on the family, except, for the gesture by Guy's soon to be married girlfriend inviting Guy's dad Frank, to walk her down the aisle.

Having little understanding on what became of medals in the millions that were issued for service and such, your email gave me to realize that my uncle's medals could be nigh anywhere.

Gary, you mentioned something about submission of a 5 year listing I assume that to mean articles written would be archived either for such a period or for a lifetime.

A story on my uncle would lack the in-battle detail, of the two articles you identified. A photo of him I do not possess nor that of his father, my Grandfather Denis, I'm saddened to say. Uncle Jerry left his Templenoe, Kenmare, County Kerry farm home at about age 17 with his brother John (who was called Jack). John, was Jerry's senior by two years. They headed for Cork City and from there got on a boat for what we would be hard pressed to call the "mother country." Nowadays, such, having faded when industry began to boom. The path taken by me to England in 1952 was the same as the route my uncle's took.

I would naturally appreciate your offer of help when writing an article that may trigger a memory of my uncle's life while living in Brisbane or anywhere for that matter. Then to have his medals retrieved from a generous collector would be more than wonderful.

Gary I entered the necessary input to register on your site and was successful. By doing so I'm able to comment and it serves as a means of contact.

Thanks so much for your help and offer of support.

Regards,

Denis Riney

December 30, 2008 - I added a story of my uncle's missing medals

Your request was succesfully added! To activate it on selected period you need to pay $

Police Credit Union BSB: 815000 Account Name: G.J.TRAYNOR - MEDALSGONEMISSING Account Number: 253995 Please enter your full name as the reference number.

The year of J. Riney's death 1966 his medals in custody of Queensland Public Trustee were turned over to R.S.S.I.L.I.A. and were presumably sold to some one. Medals that he received for his WWI services were among those sent to RSL.

The medals that I found to be his for WWII service were: 1939-45 War Medal 1939-45 Star Atlantic Star

WWI service (I'm not sure of) these may be likely the ones:
1914-18 Victory Medal Merchantile Marine War Merchantile Marine Pair

I, his nephew Denis, traced my uncle to Brisbane and found his resting place in Nudgee Cemetery on Sep 22, 2008.

I'm eager to have the listed medals of Uncle Jerry's in my possession and passed on my son(s).

Thank you kindly for items such as these that you may have.

God Bless! belongings. December 30, 2008 - my response to Gary's quick response

Gary,

Based on your sound advise on having an alternate email added to my account I've added my son's who lives about an hour away from me, in Connecticut. I would be tickled to have met you in Brisbane, the city of my late uncle's choosing. Someone living there may have a picture of him with a relative of theirs. Having obtained copies of his correspondence from NAA regarding his medal entitlements and via the application he had submitted, which then recorded him picking up three inscribed medals on April 6, 1961, a wish he had expressed in a copy of a letter he had written about a delay in getting them, he wanting to wear them, when marching on 1961 Anzac Day parade.

My wife and I live about 25 miles outside New York City. My account on your wonderful site has been updated to reflect the necessary particulars. I will be wiring payment based on the instructions given to ativate the period I've selected, per your suggestion.

Just as a quick reference my address is :
Denis Riney 48 Yorkshire Dr. Suffern, NY 10901

Snippets culled from web sites ....

?The Merchant Navy, with Allied comrades, night and day, in weather fair or foul, face not only the ordinary perils of the sea but the sudden assaults of war from beneath the waters or from the sky ... We are a seafaring race, and we understand the call of the sea ... We feel confident that that proud tradition of our island will be upheld to-day wherever the ensign of a British merchantman is flown. ?

RT HON. WINSTON CHURCHILL, 31st July, 1941

One in twenty-six (26) seamen perished during WWII, next would be the Marines where one in forty-eight of them perished. Based on the volume of participants it other services the numbers would make it appear that they being of a less danger, as compared to the aforementioned.

On January 27, 1942 Winston Churchill would say:
"But for the Merchant Navy who bring food and munitions of war, Britian would be in a paralous state and indeed, without them, the Army, Navy and AirForce could not operate."

In wars perhaps the mano e mano fighting approach gets the glory, the same to some degree is probably true today.

Thanks, I appreciate the time you've taken to bring me onboard your very much needed site. The first time I heard Kokoda was because of your site. You have so much information to impart. God Bless!.

Best Wishes to You and Yours for a Wonderful Happy New Year.

Denis Riney (formerly of Kenmare Co. Kerry

December 30, 2008 - another email from MGM founder

Hello again Denis,

First of all, thank you for the nice comments regarding the site.....it is always nice to receive some type of positive feedback.

Your perception of the situation (regarding the whereabouts of your Uncle's medals) unfortunately is quite accurate.....they could be ANYWHERE !!!! Finding one set of lost medals is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Which is why I started this site.

I have been looking for my Great Uncles medals for many years....and as what little websites there were at that time in existence - did not go far enough to help find the medals, I had no option but to start my own.

But having said that....if you don't try to look - your only option is to wait until the person who actually has them - to find you !!!! And I dare say that we will wait an eternity for that to happen.

So having said that.....with ebay now on the picture - your medals could have been sold to an overseas interest. Chances are though, they are still in Australia.

Whilst I do not wish to denigrate your uncle's service - you will find that medals to Merchant Marine Servicemen are not the most highly sought after (when compared to those from the Australian Lighthorse or perhaps a digger who served and died at Gallipoli for example) THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR YOU

Having said that....many collectors would have no idea at all - just on the dangers faced by Merchant Sailors. You can't tell me that the fear and apprehension of a stoker deep in the body of a slow merchant vessel, tending to an engine in a hot and humid engine room.......is any less than the fear of an infantryman about to go over the top of the trenches !!!!!!!! With the prowling U-Boats out there, knowing that the water is freezing cold or shark infested.....and also knowing that if any ship WERE to stop and render assistance, it too ran the risk of being torpedoed.....this is why many ships did not stop to render assistance. I would be terrified and would look for any way I could to get out of the Merchant Navy.....yet these men carried all of the cargo so that their countrymen could fight the war and be supplied with the food they ate and the oil that ran the tanks and land based vehicles.

THESE ARE THE FACTS THAT I WOULD BE PUTTING INTO A STORY FOR YOU AND yes.....whilst it lacks the excitement of battle details.....their courage was no less than the soldier at Gallipoli and I think that your story would not just be a tribute to your uncle....but to ALL Merchant Seamen in general. Anyway - I will get off my soapbox (I get over passionate about our servicemen and women)

With regards to the five year term........what I meant was that you would only pay for five years. The only reason that I ask for payment - is that it actually costs me quite a lot to run this site and continually update the information. I can assure you, I won't get very rich from $6 U.S. ...................as I said before, I am happy to offer you the lifetime listing for the cost of only a five year listing (as I am still full of Christmas cheer !!!!)

Your medal listing will be there for life (hopefully you will live a long one)

The story will also be on the website for life.
When I say life......if you were to put an alternate email or contact address (i.e. such as a younger relative) in the event that your uncles turn up in 10 years time (and heaven forbid, you have fallen off the perch !!!!) then at least I will have a second person to return them to. But if you plan to stay alive for the next 10 or 20 years....then I am confident that they will turn up. Unfortunately, I have people who have not updated their email address and now cannot locate them.....I have one set of medals here to be returned but can no longer find the family - hence the request for a second email address as an alternate contact.

THE STORY: The reason why I offer to do a story - is that it will increase your chances of the medals being returned (as you get a better google rating) So when someone enters your Uncle's name into google (I am not sure if you know much about google ratings) then your story should at least show up on the first or second page of google.

I have not had the chance to do a story of a Merchant Seaman and I would find it fascinating.....so whilst you are certainly under no obligation, please consider this. Just a pity that you do not have a photograph of him. Having said that, there may be someone out there who has a photo and reads your story!!!! That would be a bonus. I am sure that at the very least, we can find some photos of some of the ships that he served on.
Thank you again and have a great New Year.

P.S. I forgot to ask.....do you live in Brisbane??? I am having an information session on the Gold Coast on the 14th & 15th of January at the Kokoda Memorial (I am a guide on the Kokoda Track) and if you lived near there, we could possibly have a yarn and you could show me anything that you had on your uncle.....just a thought. Cheers mate.

Gary Traynor Director – Medals Gone Missing.
Web: www.medalsgonemissing.com Email: customerservice@medalsgonemissing.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, 31 December 2008 8:33 AM
To: Medals Gone Missing
Subject: Re: Uncle Jeremiah Riney - User message from MedalsGoneMissing.com

Gary,

I appreciate your kind and descriptive words that you expressed in your email response of yesterday. Within hours of my posting on your wonderful site I would receive your most welcome and lenghty feedback.

Your words on imagining what seamen's life as being throughout those Battles of the Atlantic trips, be they ships sailing alone or as part of a convoy, were powerful. The two years I sailed on, primarily, Cunard Liners in the mid 1950s held out no terror thoughts for me then.

I read the two articles that you recommended. These were stories of courage and sacrifice. Twice injured Jim Cowey and reinlisting at age 50 to protect the younger comrades. Giving up medals was an indicator of perhaps trauma suffered. The Manusu brother's loss and in one way or another the devastating ripple effects it had on the family, except, for the gesture by Guy's soon to be married girlfriend inviting Guy's dad Frank, to walk her down the aisle.

Having little understanding on what became of medals in the millions that were issued for service and such, your email gave me to realize that my uncle's medals could be nigh anywhere.

Gary, you mentioned something about submission of a 5 year listing I assume that to mean articles written would be archived either for such a period or for a lifetime.

A story on my uncle would lack the in-battle detail, of the two articles you identified. A photo of him I do not possess nor that of his father, my Grandfather Denis, I'm saddened to say. Uncle Jerry left his Templenoe, Kenmare, County Kerry farm home at about age 17 with his brother John (who was called Jack). John, was Jerry's senior by two years. They headed for Cork City and from there got on a boat for what we would be hard pressed to call the "mother country." Nowadays, such, having faded when industry began to boom. The path taken by me to England in 1952 was the same as the route my uncle's took.

I would naturally appreciate your offer of help when writing an article that may trigger a memory of my uncle's life while living in Brisbane or anywhere for that matter. Then to have his medals retrieved from a generous collector would be more than wonderful.

Gary I entered the necessary input to register on your site and was successful. By doing so I'm able to comment and it serves as a means of contact.

Thanks so much for your help and offer of support.

Regards,
Denis Riney

December 31, 2008 - MGM Founder's email of surprize

Strueth !!......sorry Denis.....I was way off my mark there. I assumed that you lived in good old Aussie !!!!!
Well it is a pleasure to be dealing with someone, so far away.
So tell me.....was your uncle an Aussie who served in the British Merchant Navy???
Or an American - living in Australia - who went to England and joined the Merchant Navy??
Or an Englishman - living in Australia - whose nephew moved from England to the USA???
And as for a story.........you have already started one with those magnificent quotes from good ol' Winston.
After our last email....I toyed with the idea of a good heading (a great story always starts with a good heading)

I came up with the following:- Atlantic Convoy - "A Different Kind of Fear" Atlantic Convoy - "A Quiet Kind of Fear" .......(My favourite) Atlantic Convoy - "A Quiet Fear" Atlantic Convoy - "A Quiet Constant Fear" ......(My wife's favourite) Or "In Constant Fear" Or "A Cold Atlantic Fear"

You might not like the sound of any of the above???? And that is o.k. Do you have any idea or preferences????

I have included the word 'fear' in all of the headings as I have already explained.....I could not think of anything more frightening of being on a big ocean, with freezing cold water and never being able to see your enemy. I would like to try to capture that in the story and the fact that despite the dangers and 'fear'of the unknown, these men continued to do their duty. Winston certainly was on the money with his comments.

Without trying to rush you into anything.........I am fairly keen on the idea to do a story to pay homage to your uncle and the men like him. What do you think???

If you are happy with the idea, please send me whatever info you might have, including the ships that he served on and despite the fact that you can't "pop over" to see me, we can see what we come up with.

Happy New Year. I hope that 2009 is a good one for you.

Gary Traynor Director – Medals Gone Missing. Web: www.medalsgonemissing.com Email: customerservice@medalsgonemissing.com

-----Original Message----- From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, 31 December 2008 3:34 PM To: customerservice@medalsgonemissing.com
Subject: Uncle Jeremiah Riney - Medals Gone Missing

Gary,

Based on your sound advice on having an alternate email added to my account I've added my son's who lives about an hour away from me, in Connecticut. I would be tickled to have met you in Brisbane, the city of my late uncle's choosing. Someone living there may have a picture of him with a relative of theirs. Having obtained copies of his correspondence from NAA regarding his medal entitlements and via the application he had submitted, which then recorded him picking up three inscribed medals on April 6, 1961, a wish he had expressed in a copy of a letter he had written about a delay in getting them, he wanting to wear them, when marching on 1961 Anzac Day parade.

My wife and I live about 25 miles outside New York City. My account on your wonderful site has been updated to reflect the necessary particulars. I will be wiring payment based on the instructions given to activate the period I've selected, per your suggestion.

Just as a quick reference my address is :
Denis Riney //////

Snippets culled from web sites ....
‘The Merchant Navy, with Allied comrades, night and day, in weather fair or foul, face not only the ordinary perils of the sea but the sudden assaults of war from beneath the waters or from the sky ... We are a seafaring race, and we understand the call of the sea ... We feel confident that that proud tradition of our island will be upheld to-day wherever the ensign of a British merchantman is flown. ‘
RT HON. WINSTON CHURCHILL, 31st July, 1941

One in twenty-six (26) seamen perished during WWII, next would be the Marines where one in forty-eight of them perished. Based on the volume of participants it other services the numbers would make it appear that they being of a less danger, as compared to the aforementioned.

On January 27, 1942 Winston Churchill would say:
"But for the Merchant Navy who bring food and munitions of war, Britain would be in a perilous state and indeed, without them, the Army, Navy and Air Force could not operate."

In wars perhaps the mano e mano fighting approach gets the glory, the same to some degree is probably true today.

Thanks, I appreciate the time you've taken to bring me onboard your very much needed site. The first time I heard Kokoda was because of your site. You have so much information to impart. God Bless!.

Best Wishes to You and Yours for a Wonderful Happy New Year.

Denis Riney (formerly of Kenmare Co. Kerry

January 5, 2009 - requesting a status on uncle's unclaimed Aud$92.30

Happy New Year Sue-Ann,

would you update me on the status or provide information regarding my Uncle Jerry's property/unclaimed monies and the like. I've created a web page http://www.angelfire.com/ri/poste/medalsgone.html that I intend adding to and then passing along to those who have been so helpful.
Chris Martin (in your office) mailed my uncle's sea records which I got before Christmas of which I'm so grateful to him for. His accomanying letter used the reference; a Marlene Enid Arduino someone is now deceased. I traced the address noted for her as being Stuart - a 17.5 miles drive from Brisbane. What is the connection between she and my uncle. She must have sought something of his also as like Dame Cecelia McNally, a friend, who wanted his medals now gone missing. Who was Ms Arduino, her interest, and why used as ref.

Please advise. Thanks.

Happy New Year.

Denis Riney (nephew of Uncle Jerry whose last days were being handled by the QLD Public Curator

PS: did you receive my email with Uncle's birth certificate ?

++++++++++++++++ Sue-Ann Bolton wrote:

Dear Mr Riney

Thank you for your recent letter dated 23 October 2008 enclosing an application to claim unclaimed money.

I am writing to advise that your application to claim unclaimed money in the name of Jeremiah Riney (Estate of) is currently under review.
Please be advised that you may be asked to provide further documentation to support your application.

In the meantime, should you have any queries regarding this matter please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you.

Kind regards

Sue-Ann Bolton Public Trust Officer
The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au January 5, 2009 - she handles monies he (Chris)handles other stuff

Sue-Ann,

Chris I understood from you that Sue-Ann would be the person to address my uncle's unclaimed monies issue.

The wonderment of seeing Marlene Enid Arduino address of Stuart as reference on your mailing was another item I wished knowing about.

Because of these issues I'm not sure from whom I should expect to hear from.

Sue-Ann if you are the person who is working on the matter of my uncle's unclaimed monies - what is the decision regarding that. Do you require something more from me. It being some time perhaps you could update on that issue alone.

Chris perhaps to provide an answer on the other.

Regards,

Denis Riney

Happy New 2009

++++++++++++++++
Sue-Ann Bolton wrote:

Dear Mr Riney

Happy New Year to you too.
Chris Martin advised me before Christmas that he was mailing you some documents and that he had the relevant files which he was looking into.

I believe the matter is being investigated further by Chris Martin and he would probably be the best person to speak to about this right now.

His e-mail address should be on the letter that he sent to you - it is: christopher.martin@pt.qld.gov.au

Thank you.

Kind regards

Sue-Ann Bolton Public Trust Officer The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au

---------------------- The beat goes on -------

>>>> Denis Riney 01/06/09 5:23 am >>>

Happy New Year Sue-Ann,

would you update me on the status or provide information regarding my Uncle Jerry's property/unclaimed monies and the like. I've created a web page http://www.angelfire.com/ri/poste/medalsgone.html that I intend adding to and then passing along to those who have been so helpful.

Chris Martin (in your office) mailed my uncle's sea records which I got before Christmas of which I'm so grateful to him for. His accomanying letter used the reference; a Marlene Enid Arduino someone is now deceased. I traced the address noted for her as being Stuart - a 17.5 miles drive from Brisbane. What is the connection between she and my uncle. She must have sought something of his also as like Dame Cecelia McNally, a friend, who wanted his medals now gone missing. Who was Ms Arduino, her interest, and why used as ref.

Please advise. Thanks.

Happy New Year.

Denis Riney (nephew of Uncle Jerry whose last days were being handled by the QLD Public Curator

PS: did you receive my email with Uncle's birth certificate ?

++++++++++++++++++++++
Sue-Ann Bolton wrote:

Dear Mr Riney

Thank you for your recent letter dated 23 October 2008 enclosing an application to claim unclaimed money.

I am writing to advise that your application to claim unclaimed money in the name of Jeremiah Riney (Estate of) is currently under review. Please be advised that you may be asked to provide further documentation to support your application.

In the meantime, should you have any queries regarding this matter please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you.

Kind regards

Sue-Ann Bolton Public Trust Officer The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au

January 6, 2009 - Stranger and Stranger vibes from PTQ

Dear Unclaimed Monies Group,

23 October 2008
The confirmation of mailing from Sue-Ann Bolton
Thank you for your recent letter dated 23 October 2008 enclosing an application to claim unclaimed money.

Mail received, letter dated December 18, 2008 Chris Martin advised me to use a new reference when contacting QLD Public Trustee as per letter he included in his mailing of Ministry of War Transport & Civil Aviation listing of ships my uncle had sailed on.

Here is ref info MARLENE ENID ARDUINO please quote BRMDET606-04957133 late of 5 Cope Street Stuart 4811 date of death 03/03/2000

October 2008 I went through the process of submitting the paperwork to obtain the unclaimed monies or property or whatever of my Uncle Jeremiah Riney. My emails to Sue-Ann Bolton who seems unable to provide a status, for whatever the reason, she now passes the ball to your Group. I wonder if this is a problem I can help with. I'm going to attach my exchanges and curious responses. Chris Martin who works in the same office is so "spot on" and gets the job done. His help is the reason I've managed to pull pieces of a hero uncle's life story together.

What unclaimed monies status might you provide to me?

Thank you.

Denis Riney

I've created a web site through which I hope to find my uncle's medals that your office had custody of in 1966. Someone sent them off to (RSSILIA), now RSL, they asked me for information on who passed them off. Was there an identity on my Uncle Jerry's medals? This site will hopefully flush out something either through search engines or by sending emails to whomever I may.

http://www.angelfire.com/ri/poste/medalsgone.html

As an aside - I'm having a headstone erected next month over my uncle's grave (6A-597) in Nudgee Cemetery. Not knowing who needs what I've included as I have. More of the puzzle left to unravel in 2009.

HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and yours

+++++++++++++++++++ This is the drop-out response I received from PTQ

Hello again Mr Riney

I am not currently in the unclaimed money section so cannot provide any information about your claim. The documents you provided initially are on file and will be attended to in due course. However, if you have further queries about your unclaimed money application it would be best if you forward your queries to:

unclaimed moneys group unclaimedmoney@pt.qld.gov.au

I apologise for any inconvenience.

Thank you.

Sue-Ann Bolton Public Trust Officer The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au

>>> Denis Riney 01/06/09 9:59 am >>>

Sue-Ann,

Chris I understood from you that Sue-Ann would be the person to address my uncle's unclaimed monies issue.

The wonderment of seeing Marlene Enid Arduino address of Stuart as reference on your mailing was another item I wished knowing about.

Because of these issues I'm not sure from whom I should expect to hear from. Chris perhaps to provide an answer on the other.

Regards,

Denis Riney

Happy New 2009

+++++++++++++++++++++
Sue-Ann Bolton wrote:

Dear Mr Riney

Happy New Year to you too.

Chris Martin advised me before Christmas that he was mailing you some documents and that he had the relevant files which he was looking into.

I believe the matter is being investigated further by Chris Martin and he would probably be the best person to speak to about this right now.

His e-mail address should be on the letter that he sent to you - it is: christopher.martin@pt.qld.gov.au

Thank you.

Kind regards

Sue-Ann Bolton Public Trust Officer The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au

>>>>>Denis Riney 01/06/09 5:23 am >>>

Happy New Year Sue-Ann,

would you update me on the status or provide information regarding my Uncle Jerry's property/unclaimed monies and the like. I've created a web page http://www.angelfire.com/ri/poste/medalsgone.html that I intend adding to and then passing along to those who have been so helpful.
Chris Martin (in your office) mailed my uncle's sea records which I got before Christmas of which I'm so grateful to him for. His accomanying letter used the reference; a Marlene Enid Arduino someone is now deceased. I traced the address noted for her as being Stuart - a 17.5 miles drive from Brisbane. What is the connection between she and my uncle. She must have sought something of his also as like Dame Cecelia McNally, a friend, who wanted his medals now gone missing. Who was Ms Arduino, her interest, and why used as ref.

Please advise. Thanks.

Happy New Year.

Denis Riney (nephew of Uncle Jerry whose last days were being handled by the QLD Public Curator

PS: did you receive my email with Uncle's birth certificate ?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sue-Ann Bolton wrote:

Dear Mr Riney

Thank you for your recent letter dated 23 October 2008 enclosing an application to claim unclaimed money.

I am writing to advise that your application to claim unclaimed money in the name of Jeremiah Riney (Estate of) is currently under review.

Please be advised that you may be asked to provide further documentation to support your application.

In the meantime, should you have any queries regarding this matter please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you.

Kind regards

Sue-Ann Bolton Public Trust Officer The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au

January 6, 2009 - Your Ref: Re: Application to claim unclaimed money
- Estate of Jeremiah Riney

Chris,
I appreciate knowing the situation that befell - its led me to impact others, who as like you are the best. Thanks.

See below a response that received from RSL that I'm passing along in hopes that your office can help Mr. Polson who is a Manager Pensions, Advocacy & Welfare Service RSL logo CMYK copy RSL Queensland Branch 283 St Pauls Tce, Fortitude Valley
P F E
(07) 3634 9491 (07) 3634 9499 hugh.polson@rslqld.org "LEST WE FORGET"

I hope you may be able to provide an answer to this gentleman. Thanks again,

Best Regards,

Denis

PS:
Thoughts;
Since Sue-Ann Bolton said she is now out of the unclaimed monies section and she advised me to email a group@pt.... email address if I needed to know the status of my claim for my uncle's unclaimed monies. Navigating that area and getting an answer of it being worked on and now left to wonder what such a group might offer.

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Denis

I am not sure how the name Arduino got on the letter but this is another estate here and has no relation to Jeremiah Riney.

Best wishes Chris Martin

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Medals awarded to Jeremiah Riney
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:48:57 +1000 From: Hugh Polson To: CC: reception

Dear Mr Riney,

Thank you for your email (below).

++++ Mr Polson's Answer +++++
The organisation referred to by the Public trustee as RSSAILA is now known as the RSL. As there are some 250 RSL sub-branches throughout Queensland alone, I would not be able to assist you without further information.

Could I suggest in the first instance that you contact the Queensland Public Trustee?s office and establish who they entrusted your uncle?s medals to. Secondly this would at least give you a sound starting point for your search. If this proves to be fruitless however then the only real option open to you is to get in touch with the following to establish exactly what medals your uncle was entitled to:

· Directorate of honours and Awards 1800 111 321
· National Archives of Australia 1300 886 881

I hope the above information is of assistance to you in your quest to recover your uncles medals.

Yours sincerely,

Hugh Polson
Manager Pensions, Advocacy & Welfare Service
RSL logo CMYK copy
RSL Queensland Branch 283 St Pauls Tce, Fortitude Valley
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(07) 3634 9491 (07) 3634 9499 hugh.polson@rslqld.org
"LEST WE FORGET"

----Original Message-----
From: Denis Riney [mailto:riney@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Saturday, 20 December 2008 9:48 AM
To: reception
Subject: Medals and such of my Uncle Jeremiah Riney

Dear Sirs/Madam,

My uncle passed in 1966 in Brisbane. His medals for service over two world wars were in the custody of Queensland Public Trustee where Uncle Jerry's friend Cecilia McNally (she passed in 1996) had initially asked for them but never came by their office to collect them so they were sent to the veteran organization R.S.S.A.I.L.A. in the year of my uncle's death. I wonder if you would know where they are stored. I'm eager to obtain my uncle's medals since he left no dependants. I, his nephew, being a seaman on Cunard Liners can identify somewhat with him. My search for Uncle Jerry starting in June 2007 was triggered by having access to Ancestry.com which enabled me to view ship manifests. This led me on a search for an uncle who was lost to our Riney family. On September 22, 2008 his death certificate arrived in the mail and I was thereby able to locate his unmarked grave (a graphic of which Manager David Molloy of Nudgee Cemetery provided).

A little on what I found.
Through the National Archives of Australia I was able to learn that he got to Brisbane in early 1948 by sailing from Hong Kong as a Steward on the "Lepton."

In 1960/61 he sought medals for his Battle of the Atlantic during WWII where in corresponding for such he allowed that he had lost his WWI medals. He expressed being hired by the Ministry of War Transport which had him sailing on ships of other countries on loan to Britain. During September 2008 I obtained his death certificate which revealed that he had no dependents, next of kin. He having died on Jan 22, 1966 and was buried in Nudgee Catholic Cemetery. I'm in the process of having a headstone placed over his resting place since the War Graves Commission of Australia did not deem him entitled to a memorial since he had not died in wartime. Some such an explanation. Thanks in advance for any ideas/suggestion that you may offer.

Sincerely,

Denis Riney

January 7, 2009 - PTQ - Sue-Ann Bolton's replacement - same tune

Thank you Brooke,

you provided a same response as that which I already received from the beginning. Just send me a scanned document with your official looking heading with wording to the effect that Mr Denis Riney (nephew of a hero uncle, an ex-Seaman like his uncle an ex-IBMer who having interacted with Australians be it from NY, 2.5 Years in Tokyo, from Hong Kong and now retired, performing gigs and seeking and wondering what problem my PTQ helpers are confronting.) Someone over there will figure out something surely.

The respect shown for my uncle's services is feeding my ... wonderment, the mystery as to what hidden agenda they be.

Happy New 2009

Denis Riney

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Unclaimedmoney Unclaimedmoney wrote:
Hi Denis,

Thank you for your enquiry.

We have received your application to claim the amount of $92.30 which is unclaimed money in the name of "Esate of Riney - Jeremiah - Deceased".

We are currently assessing the documentation you have included with your application to ascertain whether or not the claim can be accepted.

You will be notified in due course if your claim application is accepted or if further documentation is required.

Kind regards,

Brooke McAlister


Unclaimed Moneys Officer
Public Trustee of Queensland
GPO Box 1449
BRISBANE QLD 4001

Telephone 3213 9368 Fax 3213 9471
Website: pt.qld.gov.au

>>>> Denis Riney 6/01/2009 4:26:24 pm >>>

Dear Unclaimed Monies Group,

23 October 2008
The confirmation of mailing from Sue-Ann Bolton Thank you for your recent letter dated 23 October 2008 enclosing an application to claim unclaimed money.

Mail received, letter dated December 18, 2008
Chris Martin advised me to use a new reference when contacting QLD Public Trustee as per letter he included in his mailing of Ministry of War Transport & Civil Aviation listing of ships my uncle had sailed on.

Here is ref info MARLENE ENID ARDUINO
please quote BRMDET606-04957133
late of 5 Cope Street Stuart 4811
date of death 03/03/2000

October 2008 I went through the process of submitting the paperwork to obtain the unclaimed monies or property or whatever of my Uncle Jeremiah Riney. My emails to Sue-Ann Bolton who seems unable to provide a status, for whatever the reason, she now passes the ball to your Group. I wonder if this is a problem I can help with. I'm going to attach my exchanges and curious responses. Chris Martin who works in the same office is so "spot on" and gets the job done. His help is the reason I've managed to pull pieces of a hero uncle's life story together.

What unclaimed monies status might you provide to me?

Thank you.

Denis Riney

I've created a web site through which I hope to find my uncle's medals that your office had custody of in 1966. Someone sent them off to (RSSILIA), now RSL, they asked me for information on who passed them off. Was there an identity on my Uncle Jerry's medals? This site will hopefully flush out something either through search engines or by sending emails to whomever I may.

http://www.angelfire.com/ri/poste/medalsgone.html As an aside - I'm having a headstone erected next month over my uncle's grave (6A-597) in Nudgee Cemetery. Not knowing who needs what I've included as I have. More of the puzzle left to unravel in 2009.

HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and yours
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Hello again Mr Riney

I am not currently in the unclaimed money section so cannot provide any information about your claim. The documents you provided initially are on file and will be attended to in due course. However, if you have further queries about your unclaimed money application it would be best if you forward your queries to:

unclaimed moneys group unclaimedmoney@pt.qld.gov.au I apologise for any inconvenience.

Thank you.

Sue-Ann Bolton Public Trust Officer The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au

>> Denis Riney 01/06/09 9:59 am >>>

Sue-Ann,

Chris I understood from you that Sue-Ann would be the person to address my uncle's unclaimed monies issue.

The wonderment of seeing Marlene Enid Arduino address of Stuart as reference on your mailing was another item I wished knowing about.

Because of these issues I'm not sure from whom I should expect to hear from.

Sue-Ann if you are the person who is working on the matter of my uncle's unclaimed monies - what is the decision regarding that. Do you require something more from me. It being some time perhaps you could update on that issue alone.

Chris perhaps to provide an answer on the other.

Regards,

Denis Riney

Happy New 2009

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Sue-Ann Bolton wrote:

Dear Mr Riney

Happy New Year to you too.

Chris Martin advised me before Christmas that he was mailing you some documents and that he had the relevant files which he was looking into.

I believe the matter is being investigated further by Chris Martin and he would probably be the best person to speak to about this right now.

His e-mail address should be on the letter that he sent to you - it is: christopher.martin@pt.qld.gov.au
Thank you.

Kind regards

Sue-Ann Bolton
Public Trust Officer The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au >>

>>>>Denis Riney 01/06/09 5:23 am >>>

Happy New Year Sue-Ann,

would you update me on the status or provide information regarding my Uncle Jerry's property/unclaimed monies and the like. I've created a web page
http://www.angelfire.com/ri/poste/medalsgone.html that I intend adding to and then passing along to those who have been so helpful.

Chris Martin (in your office) mailed my uncle's sea records which I got before Christmas of which I'm so grateful to him for. His accomanying letter used the reference; a Marlene Enid Arduino someone is now deceased. I traced the address noted for her as being Stuart - a 17.5 miles drive from Brisbane. What is the connection between she and my uncle. She must have sought something of his also as like Dame Cecelia McNally, a friend, who wanted his medals now gone missing. Who was Ms Arduino, her interest, and why used as ref.

Please advise. Thanks.

Happy New Year.

Denis Riney (nephew of Uncle Jerry whose last days were being handled by the QLD Public Curator

PS: did you receive my email with Uncle's birth certificate ?

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Sue-Ann Bolton wrote:

Dear Mr Riney

Thank you for your recent letter dated 23 October 2008 enclosing an application to claim unclaimed money.

I am writing to advise that your application to claim unclaimed money in the name of Jeremiah Riney (Estate of) is currently under review.

Thank you.

Kind regards

Sue-Ann Bolton Public Trust Officer The Public Trustee of Queensland 444 Queen Street Brisbane Qld 4000 (07) 3213 9429 boltons@pt.qld.gov.au

January 21, 2009 - Public Trusee of Queensland

The Public Trustee of Queensland (established in 1915), an organization that administered to my Uncle Jerry's at his end, and who afterwards would pass his WWI and WWII service medals to RSL (a veteran's organization) in the year of his death, 1966. This they did when Dame Cecelia McNally who claimed to be a friend of my uncle's did not show up to collect his medals. Having contacted RSL in December 2008, their respondant's suggested I contact the QLD PT office for a listing of what was sent which would identify the contents of what was purported to have been sent them. They had none, any letter of that period would have been destroyed, they said. The National Archives of Australia had his petition for medals and associated correspondances going back to 1960.

I've had reasonably good success thus far, but the QPT organizational structure is now revealing itself, as being oriented towards more of a single issue handling. The exception being, a stands out, a professional, who I am most grateful to. Without him I may not have achieved as I have, at this point in time. The help provided to me from Australian is truly remarkable. Having great regard for their history, and of those who served in either of the four services (Merchant Navy Mariners, the fourth) they more, readily identify with what each contributed.

On an issue of unclaimed monies where having returned a completed application and relevant identity I received a confirmation of its arrival on October 23, 2008. My contact indicated that more proof might be required. Weeks went by and obtaining a copy of my Uncle Jerry's birth certificate I sent its scanned object and asked what it might add to their need for analysis. I received no reply. Its January 2009 and I emailed the person again the unclaimed monies handler, her response was that my particulars being on file and that she was no longer the one - she gave me a "group" email address to email if I needed knowing of the status. I had such a sense of something being afoot, as one does from years of interacting with others across the world, using a company's communication system that was Internet-like, even in the early 1980s. Now Jan 7, 2009 a member of unclaimed monies group responded with the same line as when they acknowledged back on Oct 23, 2008.