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Unfair Alimony???

 

The web is replete with story after story of unconscionable child support/alimony awards given to greedy, cruel, sick women ... by just as sick and sadistic courts.

Do a search, what you'll find is unbelievable. The depths that some women go to torture and enslave men seem to know no bounds. Many, many women are simply horrible, other women are not however. Men have no way of knowing in advance ... why marry/have kids? Marriage is dead. It's a contract of adhesion. Kids are tools that many women simply use to financially abuse the father with.

The following post come from a different board, many of the posts are from women. Here's a sampling:
http://bein.com/forums/fathers/posts/78.html

 

Author Subject: unfair alimony???


My brother's wife filed for divorce in 2001 and I just can't seem to think the courts or his lawyer has any interest in his well being. Alberta had a drastic oilfield boom last year and he made 116,000. and the two previous years he made 84,000. and 79,000. The case is not finished but in the last months since sept 11 oil and gas has employment has slowed down dramatically. Working all his days off the maximum amount in the last 6 months he made $3400. and the court has ordered temporarily for him to pay 3200. per month plus half the child care expenses. So he has been in the hole for the last 6 months. He moved backed home and it quite embarrassed to be with his parents. The court also said for his visitation he is to provide food and shelter. I asked how is this. He has lost 31 pounds from not eating...can't afford to eat that is why last month I encouraged him to move to our parent's home. She is living in the house and secretly cleaned out the bank accounts and in court she said she needed the money to feed the children...but spent 2 weeks in Hawaii for Christmas. I had to secretly buy presents for the children at Christmas for him and for having been a successful caring man he is suffering depression (I think). His lawyer said he should sign off his half of the house and give her all the rrsp.s and keep it easy. We are not talking about a guy who would even raise his voice to his wife and a very caring father and if she decided to have an affair why should she and the boyfriend (she had an affair and carried it on) get to live the life style she is accustomed to and he can't even pay rent. We are from Red Deer Alberta and I know he can't afford another lawyer but any suggestions. I am sick to my stomach about this and I can see how helpless he feels. PLEASE, IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO HELP US. MY BROTHER SAID HE IS ALMOST TO THE POINT OF NOT FIGHTING FOR ANY ASSETS OR HIS TWO DAUGHTERS ANYMORE. IT'S LIKE A DEATH TO HIM. SHE HONES HIM AND SAYS I HOPE YOU HAVE MONEY TO AT LEAST GET TO WORK TO PAY ME AND I SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT KNOWING YOU ARE STARVING ha ha! SHE HAS VERBALLY AND PSYCHICALLY ABUSED HIM THROUGHOUT THE MARRIAGE IN FRONT OF ALL THE FAMILY AND I AM THANKFUL HE HAS NEVER HIT HER. Kim Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 17:50:20 03/11/2002
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I cannot believe what you said, we are going through almost the exact same thing. We are in the process of losing everything. What a feeling to know that someone else understands. Thank you so very much!! Kim Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 1 replies) Posted At 17:51:22 03/11/2002
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Trina, my friend is going through pretty much the EXACT same thing as your brother, so I know where you are both coming from. My friend has lost everything in the last year from his house to the fish in his fish pond (she stole them one weekend when she cleaned out the family home while he went away with the children for the weekend) if you can access my email addy from this I would love to hear from you. Leanne Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 10:42:22 04/21/2002
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Trina, I can believe what you say. My brother is going through the exact same thing. What I cannot believe is how unfair our so called justice system is. Not only is my brother being screwed by the system but 2 other male friends that I know of. My brother has worked hard for over 20 years, thinking that he is building himself a life and family. The next thing he knows is everything he worked for is taken from under his feet and handed over to her along with his children. He cannot afford to live on his own, because by the time he pays her child and spousal support he has nothing left for himself. In the meantime she brings home more than he does. Over the past 2 years I have had my eyes opened up to our so called justice system and just wonder who makes these laws and if/when they will be changed. Peter Woodcock Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 12:14:31 09/30/2002
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I thought I was alone in this problem! I divorced an alcoholic wife last year and at the same time lost a good paying job. We were married 15 years with no children. I spent most of that time trying to help her with her disease. Bottom line "no good deed goes unpunished" I have been out of work for 18 months and have no money with loosing everything slowly, day by day.

I was hauled into court in Massachusetts last week and they did not care that I had no money. I have to pay $3,000 in arrears or go to jail. They don't care, they just want the money. I am stunned at the kangaroo court system and loosing faith in our justice? system.

My attorney was useless.

I'm sorry for every decent person that is getting the shaft.....it's heartbreaking. At least I don't have kids. That would be even worse. Not to be dramatic but I do think of killing myself or picking up a drink...but have to keep the faith. Good luck to all of you. Peter Tyler Ell Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 12:02:20 10/27/2002
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I too am about to embark on a similar situation. I've been married only about 2 years but have also shared in the growth of my two children, 3 and 2, with my wife for five years she now wants to leave me. I feel also I will be dragged through the sharped sprockets of injustice. After reading your story I can't believe there isn't some type of constitutional challenge here. I mean you too like myself are citizen of this so called free country, Canada. Are we not allowed to pursue happiness here like anyone else and if there are laws preventing us from that pursuit of happiness, is there then not a constitutional challenge here? I'm not a lawyer in any aspect of the word but hope this will bring some insight and direction for your absent Brother. Good Luck Tyler Ell Janet Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 14:18:00 11/06/2002
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My friend is divorcing his physically and verbally abusive spouse of 21 years (stayed till the kids were 18, and he's being shafted for $45,000 support, she gets ALL the assets (including his retirement!) and he gets ALL the liabilities. The formula for the support, according to the judge, was (his income - her income) X 1.5.

This is just wrong. He's worked 3 jobs for 20 years to support her spending habits and now he's being screwed for it.

Oh, I almost forgot. He has to pay BOTH lawyers.

I love Oklahoma, but you don't want to be a man in a divorce case here. John Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 07:55:19 04/01/2003
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They (the court system) could care less about the men. As long as you have access to a newspaper and a park bench that should be good enough for you.

Then when the guy is at the end of his rope and snaps and does something to her and gets in trouble with the law everybody scratches their heads and say "I wonder what got into him" We have a system (thanks in large to the HATEFUL feminazis) that discriminates against men and until we as men are willing to stand up for ourselves it will continue and only get worse. Charles Buchanan Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 10:48:16 08/23/2003
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My ex, who lives 7000 miles away from me, is bright and applied for an alimony increase through her country's court system, when she was in between jobs. She now has a better paying position and I'm being milked dry. As a Canadian how can I have this reversed as it's crippling me? T.Labon Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 12:56:04 10/28/2003
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I had a gambling wife for 27 yrs. She spent all the money I made. We separated last year and she got the house, half the pension, and I have to pay about half my earnings which she uses to go to Atlantic city and other gambling places. She used to work but now she says she has a hip problem. Yet she goes bowling and dancing but the Judge can't see that. My Lawyer was useless and it looks like he was working for her. They Just want to move on to the next case and nail another hard working man. I am very disappointed with the court system. I cant believe that a Judge can show such a lack of wisdom and understanding. People in a position of authority and trust should be held accountable for their actions but I'm sure these arrogant bastards won't be reading this to educate themselves. I feel for you all. Jennifer Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 00:03:58 11/20/2003
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I have a friend who is married to a severe alcoholic, very abusive woman. He has documentation of everything she has put the family through and the lawyer says he can do nothing. He has to pay her 4000+ a month plus his retirement plus the equity in his house all the assets. She got fired from her job a day or so ago because of her heavy drinking. This is a woman who goes through 1.75L of vodka in 2 days. She hits him, she stalks him, and all the lawyer says is perhaps the judge will grant her a lifetime of spousal support. I am a woman and I think this is horrid to ruin someone! The court system sucks, the justice system is bad, and can't a woman be the abuser and the dead beat? He feels just helpless. Chris J. Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 09:30:35 12/20/2003
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I have been married for 12 years, have one son (7 yrs) and my wife filed for divorce in February this year. I make $60K/Year Salary plus Commissions. I am on track to make $100K Gross this year. The court temporarily ordered me to pay $2900 month Child Support $2000 month Alimony (She doesn't work, claims she is disabled) 1/2 Mortgage, 1/2 private school tuition, 100% Car insurance, 100% Both life insurance policies. Oh yea...when we split she took the $25k in the bank earmarked for taxes. We still have not filed for 2002 because she has all the receipts and papers. The judge ordered me responsible for paying the taxes but if there is a refund I have to split it!!! I was making good money $15-20K per month, but biz got slower just before the breakup. The judge thinks it was suspicious that the income went down and that I am hiding income! I am going bankrupt, lost my car, and my son's mother still claims she has no money for X-Mas shopping. She is going to Toys for Tots!!!

The way I see it, I could have a bad commission month, I am obligated to pay out $4900/mo for alimony and support but my salary is $5K/mo BEFORE TAXES!!!! Where is the justice? Jerry H Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 11:14:34 12/24/2003
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Does anyone have any suggestion for avoiding unfair alimony? No kids, only a greedy ex wife that is getting 40K per year, and garnished my wages. I am planning on running, I just don't know where. E. Kelly Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 20:55:37 01/11/2004
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Unfair alimony and child support. I am a self employed woman who is shocked at the number of men getting sucked dry through the court system after divorce. I am involved with a man who resides with me and couldn't live on his own if he wanted to. The ex-#$$% gets all his pay for alimony and child support. The courts in N.J. could care less if the man has enough money to buy a cup of coffee. We are fighting...let her chase the money...he pays the CS (garnished) but she can chase the alimony!!! I have no respect for the week and needy women in this world who use the laws to punish their ex-husbands. If they can't understand why they aren't married anymore look at how they are through a divorce!! The laws are wrong. When will men start to fight this. The laws need to be changed. The laws are never about parenting and children, only money. I hope no good man ever gets involved with the woman my man has divorced. Well I could go on and on but there are far too many unfair divorce cases for men in this country. WORRIED FOR HIM Re: unfair alimony??? (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 13:09:00 01/22/2004
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THE MAN I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO MARRY FOR 3 YEARS HAS BEEN TAKEN FOR MORE THAN HE BRINGS HOME. ALSO WITH PERMANENT ALIMONY AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. I OWN A HOME AND HE LIVES WITH ME. NOW IT SEEMS THE COURTS ARE TAKING IN CONSIDERATION MY INCOME. I'VE BEEN CONSULTED BY 4 LAWYERS AND THEY SAY NOT TO MARRY THIS MAN. THAT I SHOULD BE CONSIDERING LEAVING VERSES A PRENUPTIAL TO KEEP HIS X-WIFE FROM MY ASSETS. SO, LAWYERS NOT ONLY HAD NO CARE OF HIS DAY IN COURT, THE ARE QUICK TO TELL ME HIS FUTURE IS IMPOSSIBLE. I HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD OF THE DRASTIC MEASURES THEY ARE GOING TO. (SUICIDE) NO ONE WANTS TO BELIEVE THESE STORIES UNTIL ONE HAPPENS TO THEM. WE ARE TOTALLY BLOWN AWAY THAT A JUDGE CAN ORDER THE IMPOSSIBLE. I THINK THEY WANT TO SEE HIM HANG HIMSELF SO SHE CAN COLLECT THE LIFE INSURANCE