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Black Saints, Mystics, Holy Folk (The Ancient African Liturgical Church, Vol. I (to year 599 A.D.) Smith, James Wesly (Author) August, 2007, Third Ed. 456 p. Paperback 19.95 digital editions,16.99, contact www.booklocker.com/3088.html. (ISBN: 9781609103590; ISBN 978-1-60145-088-3; ISBN digital:9781609103590, http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/isbn9781609103590


For apple itunes/apple bookstore. Other digital versions available later this month ), E-book: ISBN 978-1-60910-359-0 First published, August, 2007., in this third edition, folks traditionally surmised that Christian spirituality was brought into the African continent. Author James Wesly Smith indicates in this 456 reference tome. Not so fast. Yeshua (Jesus) grew up in Africa until age 6 or 7 to escape ing Herods 10 assassins, Smith points out. He cites the Christian Bible references of Hosea 11:1, and Matthew 2:13-15, Out of Africa, I called my son.


Blending the lists of Coptic, Orthodox and Latin Rite friends of God called saints, Smith points out that more than 56,000 Black and African-heritaged folks labored in the faith. He says it was partly that because places such as Kemet (Egypt) was Romes bread baskets subject to higher taxes, this forced many holy folk into the deserts where the faith thrived.


In folksy style, Smith also goes onto to say that in ancient Macedonian, Greek, Roman, or even Ottoman Turkish maps, the term North Africa, is found nowhere. The attorney author concludes it as a colonialist construct to denigrate the achievements and contributions of holy Africans.


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Out of Egypt I called My Son See Hosea 11:1, Matthew 2:13-15


Why do you follow a white god? Why do you worship in institutions that never accepted you? Stinging questions Black Catholics and others ethnic perennially parry from members in the historically Black Churches.


The questions traditionally have included queries from Al Islam (Muslims) believers in the urban areas.


But now evidence exists that Christianity (also) sprang out of the African, as opposed to the Saudi Arabia origination of the Prophet Muhammad and his original followers. Black Saints, Mystics, and Holy Folks (The Ancient African Liturgical Church, Vol. I). seeks to correct the oversight, especially as the Church grows by leaps in bounds in the Africa and the geologic and historical lands of Black Diaspora.


Such proofs can be gleaned from the 57,000 African Saints in the early 500 years from when Jesus (Yeshua) commissioned His apostles to go forth and teach all nations.


Horrors of enslavement and colonialism still haunt and direct the Black Church experience in the church.(The barbaric practice still exists in some parts of Africa and elsewhere). But now, Black Christians, Catholics and ethnics can show that Yeshua, Jesus the Christ, grew up in Africa, personally establishing an African root to His vine, and the branches.


Black Saints, Mystics, and Holy Folk shows that the once powerful African Church had at least five apostles ministering there before their departures to other lands. Cephas (Simon Peter) in set up a church in Babylon, Egypt before going to Antioch and finally Rome. Phillip visited and assisted the Ethiopian Eunuch (See Acts 8:26-39). Nathaniel Bartholomew Levi ministered in Africa.


Tradition calls Matthew, Apostle to the Ethiopians (See http://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/j092sdMatthew_9-21.htm


And Jude Thaddeus Lebbeus (Jesus cousin) healed there, according to Black Saints introductory chapters. The Coptic branch of the one, holy catholic (which means universal) Church still manifests proud traditions of the Holy Familys visits. (See Isaiah 19:1, Matthew 3: 13-15. http://touregypt.net/featurestories/journey.htm).


Important information, inasmuch United States Bishops (and those elsewhere) blew an opportunity to evangelize the formerly enslaved after the American Civil War.


As the Holy Catholic church struggles in the West, the Church African (originally part of the oriental Church), finds the leaves of growth regaining the light of day, bursting thought the concrete of neglect, persecution, and heresies of the Vandals, and Arians who nearly destroyed the African Church during the AD 400s.


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Before there was Bishop TD Jakes, Noel Jones, Drs. Price & Creflo Dollar, there was Bishop Athanasius, Augustine, Macarius, Antony, --and there was Anub and Amoun. Yes! More than 56,000 Africa Black saints (in groups), from the early church (we mention a few; tell where to find the rest).


To answer our brethren from Al Islam, no longer will you have to shirk, when you hear "Why do you follow a religion from Europe.� You will be able to show that Christianity-- the faith of Our Lord Yeshua, Jesus the Christ-- came out of Africa, along with its precursor, the African Essenne and Therapeutae movements. Get yours today!


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Now Volume I, Second Edition,contains more than 450 +plus pages of lists 57,000(grouped) Black Saints, Mystics, Holy Folk, in 1000 lines of information about Black Saints of African Heritage to the year 599 A.D. (Later volumes will list those to the present date).


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Most Blacks know about the African St. Augustine, and his mom, St. Monica. Some might be vaguely familiar with St. Martin de Porres, or St. Benedict the Moor. But few know the writer of the Gospel of Mark and secretary to both Apostles Peter and Paul--was African, Mark! We have not been taught about the Saints Clement and Denis of Alexandria, nor St. Catherine the Great. Thousands of Desert Fathers and Mothers who followed Christ in the first 599 years of the Church have been hidden from us.


How many of us know about St. Macarious the Elder, and St. Macarious the Younger, Apa Noub, Ammon the Great, St. Cyprian of Carthage, Pope St. Victor I-- all African friends of God (called (I>saints)


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�Out of Egypt I called My Son� See Hosea 11:1, Matthew 2:15


�Why do you follow a white god? Why do you worship in institutions that never accepted you?� � Stinging questions Black Catholics and others ethnic perennially parry from members in the historically Black Churches. The questions traditionally have included queries from Al Islam (Muslims) believers in the urban areas.


But now evidence exists that Christianity (also) sprang out of the African, as opposed to the Saudi Arabia origination of the Prophet Muhammad and his original followers. Black Saints, Mystics, and Holy Folks (The Ancient African Liturgical Church, Vol. I). seeks to correct the oversight, especially as the Church grows by leaps in bounds in the Africa and the geologic and historical lands of Black Diaspora.


Such proofs can be gleaned from the 57,000 African Saints in the early 500 years from when Jesus (Yeshua) commissioned His apostles to go forth and teach all nations.


Horrors of enslavement and colonialism still haunt and direct the Black Church experience in the church. But now, Black Christians, Catholics and ethnics can show that Yeshua, Jesus the Christ, grew up in Africa, personally establishing an African root to His vine, and the branches.


Black Saints, Mystics, and Holy Folk shows that the once powerful African Church had at least five apostles ministering there before their departures to other lands. Cephas (Simon Peter) in set up a church in Babylon, Egypt before going to Antioch and finally Rome. Phillip visited and assisted the Ethiopian Eunuch (See Acts 8:26-39. Nathaniel Bartholomew Levi ministered in Africa.



Tradition calls Matthew, Apostle to the Ethiopians (See http://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/j092sdMatthew_9-21.htm

And Jude Thaddeus Lebbeus (Jesus� cousin) healed there, according to Black Saints introductory chapters. The Coptic branch of the one, holy catholic (which means universal) Church still manifests proud traditions of the Holy Family�s visits. (See Isaiah 19:1, Matthew 3: 13-15. http://touregypt.net/featurestories/journey.htm).


Important information, inasmuch United States Bishops (and those elsewhere) blew an opportunity to evangelize the formerly enslaved after the American Civil War.


As the Holy Catholic church struggles in the West, the Church African (originally part of the oriental Church), finds the leaves of growth regaining the light of day, bursting thought the concrete of neglect, persecution, and heresies of the Vandals, and Arians who nearly destroyed the African Church during the AD 400s.


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Most Blacks know about the African St. Augustine, and his mom, St. Monica. Some might be vaguely familiar with St. Cyprian of Carthage and Denis of Alexandria. But few know the Gospel of Mark --John Mark--was African. We have not been taught about the esteemed St. Catherine the great, or the thousands of Desert Fathers who followed Christ in the first 500 years of the Church.


How many of us know about St. Macarious the Elder, and St. Macarious the Younger, Apa Noub, Ammon the Great, Bassilides--all saints, all Africans, and all friends of God.


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Yes! We place the Blessed Virgin Mary, Co-redemptrix and Theotokos as the first Early Black Saint, based on the European one drop rule, which one can investigate on these sites. As a brief preface, the color black in light theory is the absence of color . In pigment theory, the color black is the sum total of all colors.

COUSINS YUSEF AND MYRYM

Yusef/Joseph and Myriam, Mariam, Mary were distant cousins. Yusef was of the house of David, as was Myrym (alternate spellings of their names). One came from the Aaronic side. The other from the Levitical side.

So Our Lord, Yeshua, the Christ, Jesus-- was bound to be Koheinen, a priest(of the order of Melchisedek), Rabbi (more like Rebi) as ordained from before Genesis.

Tradition indicates it a reason the Angel sent them to Africa was that there were (strict Jewish) Essenian cousins still living there.

David's son was Solomon. Solomon of Song of Songs/Solomon fame, had a tryst and issue (chil'ren as they sayin the American South) with Queen Makeda, aka, the Queen of Sheba /SabaBof Abyssinia.,ne: Ethiopia,Cush/Nubia!

If one doesn't want to accept that, Solomon had issue with Pharoah=s (of Khemet-Egypt) Daughter. The ethnocentric can take their pick. But as the song says, Whoooppps! There it is. Backgrounder: When Solomon and Sheba (Queen Malek) split, it is said she inadvertently through the machinations of the high priest Zacharias= sibling, returned to Abyssinia with the Ark of The Covenant and her/ solomon=s son, King Manelik/Manelek. Reference the former Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selaissie=s titles.

That Ark was said to be deposited in Axum, where it reportedly is still guarded in St. Mary=s Cathedral by Coptic priests to this day.

More importantly, the Jewish faith was also taken back. Some of her entourage became Essenian Jews, strict observers of the Jewish faith. These and others later wrote about, and were looking for the "Sons of Light. (See the Qumran/Dead sea scrolls documents.).

It is said Mary raised Baby Jesus in the Essenian tradition. An irony is that one can readily see the connection several hundred years later at or about Pentecost, the Ethiopian Finance minister of the Kandake (Queen Candace in Scripture , successor to Queen Makeda) reading the Isaiah , as the apostle Philip approached the coach through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

There are no coincidences. God never does anything by accident! Everything is according to His plan!

It matters only as apologetics to those who say we are following a European God, or family! As one can readily see, we are not!.

And folks wonder why they were able to hang out in Africa --reportedly among their Essenian African cousins, near Heliopolis (now Zeitun, vicinity of Old Cairo ) We refer folks to the recent pictures of Mary as the Lady of All Nations, the various Black Madonnas throughout the world.

Africa is the birthplace of man, the Great Rift Valley Olduvai Gorge). According to Ray East, Msgr of Washington D.C. ,even the birthplace of A-dam (first man) is us. For Africa birthplace of homo sapiens, sapiens (modern man).

At least two gifts of the Magi to the Christ child can be found on that continent. The Frankincense and the Gold (see Genesis___ ).

There exists a wonderful old apocryphal tale that Mary used the Frankincense and the Myrrh to anoint the body of Yeshua after the crucifixion.

We begin:

HONOR OF MARY


Many Christians of the European 16th, and 17th Century developments wonder why 1 billion of their brethren in the Liturgical parts of the Mystical Body of Christ (Latin Rite, Byzantine Rite Ways of Worship, including Episcopalian and Anglican, and Orthodoxies) honor the Mother of Jesus, Mary. Several misconceptions exist.


We had to write about this sister to clear misconceptions, and to honor her, as she has a festival(called feast day coming Dec.8. Sister, because she is Of the House of David -David's son, Solomon, had issue with Queen Makeda of Sheba, OR married Pharaoh=s daughterBEuropean one drop of black blood ruleBchoose your line of descent).



All mothers are honored(not worshiped). Neither is Mary worshiped. But she is highly honored.


Commandment IV tells us: Honor thy father and mother. Recognizing her as Jesus= mother, the Liturgical Church's recognition of her is understandable.



Rejoice, Mary! Theotokos! Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Yeshua, Jesus, The Christ. Pray for us now and the hour of our death, amen!



Like so many black women, Mary, called Our Lady throughout the world, remains an example for us (especially the First world, African us).


Mary's Appearance:


"Per Epiphanus, an early Christian: Mary had brown eyes and dark eyebrows, with an oval oval face visage. Her skin color-complexion resembled wheat. She wore linen or wool clothes, weather determinative, with wooden, or leather sandals, or even bare feet bare. A veil covered her hair, such as in Iraq these days (2005). Traveling into the streets, she wore an over robe or someimes a heavier gown.


Early Byzantine, Orthodox, and Latin Rite Christian art, including Byzantine- shows Mary in paintings or the Madonna such as those from the St. Luke, the Apostle. It is said in tradition that Luke once painted her atop a wood table, as well as the disciple carved small statues of her."



For she was at one time: unwed teenager, expectant mother (14 years of age),political refugee, dispossessed and former middle class seamstress, homeless (trek into Khemet-Egypt), mother of one wrongfully accused and executed.


She remains an example of humility and obedience (the Latin root ob-audiere means TO HEAR).


Verses the Church feels alludes to, touches on, exemplifies Mary (remember to view a few verses before and after, as well as the footnotes. Certain Bibles are staggered,omitting some verses, adding others, depending on translation):


Gen 3:13;Isa 7:14;Micah 5:2,3. Matt 1:22,23; Luke 1:48; Luke 1:35;Luke 2:5;2:6; Luke 2:12;1:27; Mt 1:18;Luke 2:19;2:34 (see also Luke 12:51; Isa 8:14;John 9:39; Rom 9:33; 1 Cor 1,23; 1Pt 2, 7-8; Luke 2:35 (see also Luke 11: 27-28; 8,20-21 exegesis; Matt 1:18;(see 15:7,14); Matt 1:20 [Mt 2:13,19;]; Matt 1:21[Isa 714 LXX]; Matt 1:25;Lk 2,7. Matt 2:3-15; Mt 12:46 [Mk 3,31-35;Lk 8,19-21];


John 2:1-5;John 4:46; Gen 41:55; John 19:25; Acts 1:4; Let it be according to thy will Luke 1:28-38; cf Rom 1:5; Mother of the Lord Lk 1:43; John 2:1;19:25; cf Mt 13:55; fiancee Mt 1:20; Isa 7:14 in the LXX; Mt 1:23 (Greek); Mk 3:31-35; John 19:26,27; Rom 8:29 ; Rev. 12:17;


REVELATIONS 12 :1 (Woman clothed in the sunBsee the picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe, those who live around Mexican or Spanish neighborhoods); 1 Cor 7: 34-35;


John 19:26-27; Lk 1:34,35;cf Mt 1:20;2:1-12;Lk 1:35; Lk 2:8-20; John 1:31-34; 2:11; Acts 10: 28;


Gen 3:15, 20; Immaculate Conception alliteration Lk 1:28; God chose her Eph 1:3-4; p>
In many countries there are pictures of the Black Madonna, including Poland. The Coptic branch has many such Icons, a Black Madonna with with Black Baby Jesus.


The reference above may be found in the principle source: Catechism sites below mentioned.


Mary goes before us all in the holiness that is the Church=s mystery as the Abride without spot or wrinkle see Eph: 5:27; That is why the Marian dimension of the Church precedes the Petrine MD 27.


Our (East and West) tradition calls her Eschatological Icon of the Church.


Catechism Section 972 (you can access on the Web. See kerygma site below, if really interested)


After speaking of the Church, her origin, mission, and destiny, we can find no better way to conclude than by looking to Mary.


In her we contemplate what the Church already is in her mystery on her own Apilgrimage of faith,: and what she will be in the homeland at the end of her journey.


There, Ain the glory of The Most Holy and Undivided Trinity,in the communion of all the saints. LG 69, Athe church is awaited by the one she venerates as Mother of her Lord and as her own mother


In the meantime, the Mother of Jesus, in the glory which she possesses in body and soul in heaven, is the image and beginning of the Church as it is to be perfected in the world to come. Likewise she shines both on earth, until the day of the Lord cf 2 Pet 3:10.


Documents for the scholarly:
MD= Mulieres dignitatem
LG= Lumens Gentum
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Mary Co-Redemptrix-What The Vatican Says


By Fr Lawrence Faisal


"The Church always believed and proclaimed Jesus Christ as the only Savior of the world, The only Redeemer of mankind. Shedding His blood on the Cross, He paid the penalty for our sins, and snatched us away from the hands of Satan.


St. Peter said to the early Christians: "It was not with perishable things such as silver or gold, that you were redeemed from the way of life handed down to you from your forefathers; but with the precious Blood of Christ, a Lamb without blemish or spot." (I Peter 1:18-19)"


"However, the Early Fathers of the Church stated that the Blessed Virgin Mary played a significant role in the Mystery of Redemption. They noticed her presence on Calvary, beneath the Cross.


They knew that Adam's rebellion prompted Jesus to drink the bitter chalice of suffering and drew a conclusion: As a woman (Eve) contributed to death, so also a Woman (Mary) contributed to life.


In fact, the Blessed Virgin gave birth to the Source of life (Jesus) who said: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life". (John 14:16)".


"The knot of Eves disobedience was untied by Mary s obedience", they said. "What Eve bound through disbelief the Virgin Mary loosened by faith". Having contemplated this unfathomable Mystery, the Fathers exclaimed: Death through Eve, life through Mary".


"By the Second Century, the Church believed the Blessed Mother contributed to the work of our salvation by her faith and total submission to the Will of God.


St. Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons in the Second Century said: By her obedience, she became the cause of salvation for herself and the whole human races" -


"Throughout the centuries, this doctrine was enshrined in the consciences of the Christians, and constituted an important part in their culture and pious devotion".


"During the sessions of the (Church convention) Vatican II in 1964, Pope Paul VI promulgated the Dogmatic Constitution >Lumen Gentium". The second chapter is entitled: RoIe of the Blessed Mother in the Economy of Salvation".


Consecrated to Our Lady, the chapter showed the Fathers of the Ecumenical Council declared without ambiguity that >Mary devoted herself totally to the Person and work of Christ, serving the Mystery of the Redemption'".


On Calvary, she united herself with a maternal heart to His Sacrifice, and lovingly consented to the immolation of this Victim which she herself had brought forth . Vatican II)".


"Notice this document is called Dogmatic Constitution. The belief is not a defined dogma. But it is generally accepted by the majority of Christ s faithful, to fervently pray that one day, the Co-Redemptrix of Mary will be officially proclaimed by the Pope as a Dogma of Faith- That proclamation will be the Culmination of the glorification of The Blessed Mother".


POPE JOHN PAUL II AND THE NEW DOGMA OF MARY


by Scott Hahn


"Pope John Paul II used these titles (Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix of all Graces and Advocate repeatedly (along with Co-Redemptrix ) throughout his pontificate.


He found just the right formula to make it possible for the Catholic world not only to believe them, which it already, does, but to grasp Mary with both head and heart C end to celebrate them.


John Paul II as a well-trained theologian, introduced the compact phrase, >maternal mediation' into the common currency of flue Church s theological vocabulary. It captures the very heart of Marian doctrine and devotion".


"As an evangelical, I(the writer reviewed here) rushed to the one verse that seemed to snuff out this seemingly heretical spark (of) St Paul's categorical assertion that Christ is the only mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5). How dare we refer to Mary s maternal mediation, or call her Mediatrix"? (I asked).


"But the Greek word used here for >one is "eis", which means first or primary , not "monos", which means >only or sole .


Just as there is one mediator there is also one Divine Sonship, which we all share -- by way of participation-- with Christ ("filii in Filio", sons in the Son).


Christ's mediation excludes not Mary's. It rather established it, by way of her participation".


"Furthermore, the Epistle to the Hebrews explains Christ's high priesthood in terms of his being the firstborn Son of God (Heb 1:6-2:17).

This (which) serves as the basis for our divine sonship (Heb 2:10-11), as well as our priestly sanctity and service (Heb 13:10-16): >Pet 2:5). Once again, there is no tug-of-war between us".


"As firstborn Son in Gods family, Jesus mediates as the High Priest between the Father and His children: whereas Mary mediates as queen-mother (see Kg 2:19) and Rev 12:1-17)


This is the meaning of Mary's maternal mediation. For the Father, Mary mothers the Son. For us sinners, she mothers His siblings. When it comes to Mary's role in God's saving plan, >mother is not only a noun but a verb, and hence an office".


"As the Mother of God and His children, Mary shows us how to glorify the Father, not by groveling, but by receiving the gift of His Son in the fullness of the Spirit.


It is the means God s sovereign grace enables us to share in His glory, and so become partakers of the divine nature (2 Pet 14). So if you want to judge how well a person grasps the Gospel in its essence, fir~d out how much they make of having God as their Father, and Mary as their Mother".


"Judging by this standard, I would say that Pope John Paul II appreciates the Gospel as much as any other man of our time. And his magisterial insight into maternal mediation may well prove decisive."


(From the Book of the Ancestor)(Author Unknown-So Test! Discern the Spirit on these traditions. Have your Bibles open! Be always in meditative and contemplative prayer):


"493 Fathers of the Eastern tradition call the Mother of God "the All-Holy" (Panagia). They celebrate her as "free from any stain of sin, as though fashioned by the Holy Spirit and formed as a new creature".


[138] By the grace of God Mary remained free of every personal sin her whole life long. "Let it be done to me according to your word. . ."


"Her previous temple service probably allowed Simeon in the Spirit to speak to her (Luke 2:25-32),


490 "To become the mother of the Savior, God enriched Mary " with gifts appropriate to such a role."[132] She was, by sheer grace, conceived without sin as the most humble of creatures, the most capable of welcoming the inexpressible gift of the Almighty. It was quite correct for the angel Gabriel to greet her as the "Daughter of Zion": "Rejoice."[103]


491 Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, "full of grace" through God,[134] was redeemed from the moment of her conception."


"Rejoice, you who are full of grace"


Archangel Gabriel salutes her at the moment of the annunciation as "full of grace".[133] For Mary to freely assent in her faith to the announcement of her vocation, it was necessary that she be wholly borne by God's grace.


La Virgen's consent to Archangel Gabriel to be the mother of the Savior, betrothed her spiritually as the spouse of the Holy Spirit. Consent to God's word, allows Mary to become the mother of Jesus.


Espousing the Divine Will for salvation wholeheartedly, without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person and to the work of her Son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with him and dependent on him, by God's grace:[140]


In or about 6-4 B.C. she gave flesh (so as to save flesh), blood, and birth to Emmanuel, Who was to perpetually be her Immaculate Heart. Yeshua, Jesus, name means God is Salvation.


"By pronouncing her >fiat' at the Annunciation, and giving her consent


To the Incarnation, Mary joined with the whole work her Son was to accomplish. She is mother wherever he is Savior, and head of the Mystical Body.


Such assent at the Annunciation starts the fullness of time (Gal. 4:4), the time of fulfillment of God's promises and preparations, wherein the "whole fullness of deity" would dwell bodily (Col. 2:9).


"The Holy Trinity descended with Its perfections, inhabited with its Three Persons enclosed Its infinity in a small place." 485 "The mission of the Holy Spirit is always conjoined and ordered to that of the Son.[122]"


Results of that acquiescence became the first of seven life- circumstances that earned her the title of Our Lady of Sorrows. At the time, she could have been stoned to death as an unwed mother.


But Our Lord in poetic literature said of her," in her, the absence of incentives, the inheritance of sin. She is contented only with loving God...In her, there is only the icy and white-hot wisdom of divine love.


A fire that strengthens the flesh with ice, so that iit may be a transparent mirror at the altar where God married a Virgin and does not lower Himself because His perfection embraces Her perfection, which as it becomes a bride, is only inferior to His by one point, subject to Him as a Woman, but without fault, as He is without fault".


br> 486 "The Father's only Son, conceived as man in the womb of the Virgin Mary, is "Christ", that is to say, anointed by the Holy Spirit, from the beginning of his human existence."


While born into the propertied class, refuge from the Idumean King Herod the Great's(d. 4 B.C.) murderous rage soon reduced Joseph and Mary to abject homelessness and poverty as, the result of a political persecution which lasted throughout Mary's lifetime.


As the Ark of The New Covenant (her womb), she returned to the traditional place of sanctuary for persecuted Jews, Africa. Joseph and Mary settle in and around what is now Old Cairo.


Mary teaches Jesus

Here, the around 4'5" Mary taught Jesus to read and write several languages. Reportedly, He studies at one the great African libraries in Heliopolis about six miles nearby. Tradition has it another comprehensive library lay near the Sphinx Temple complex.


An African upbringing initially gave Yeshua His outlook on life. Experiences of the Holy Family there can still be spiritually felt in their old neighborhoods as Zeitun /Zaytoun, ((Khemet-(Khemet-Egypt))/Kemet).


She was involved in the life of Jesus throughout His ministry. She cared for Him as an infant (Matt 1:18 - 2:23); she looked for Him in the Temple when she thought He was lost (Luke 2:41-49); she cared for Him through adolescence (Luke 2:51-52); she interceded with Him at the wedding at Cana (John 2:2-5);


She worried about Him as He began His ministry (Matt 13:46); she was at His cross when He was crucified (John 19:25-26); and she prayed with the other followers of Jesus after His ascension (Acts 1:14).


Eastern and Western members of the Mystical Body of Christ greet Mary as Our Blessed Mother due to the commission given by Our Lord, Yeshua on the Cross to the Apostle John(d.100 A.D.)


721 Mary, the all-holy ever-virgin Mother of God, is the masterwork of the mission of the Son and the Spirit in the fullness of time. Because his Holy Spirit prepared her, for the first time in the plan of salvation and, the Father found the dwelling place by his grace, where his Son and his Spirit could dwell among men.


In this sense the Church's Tradition has often read the most beautiful texts on wisdom in relation to Mary.[101] Mary is acclaimed and represented in the liturgy as the "Seat of Wisdom." In her, the "wonders of God" that the Spirit was to fulfill in Christ and the Church began to be manifested:


722 It was fitting that the mother of him in whom "the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily"[102] should herself be "full of grace." Mary in her canticle[104] lifts up to the Father in the Holy Spirit while carrying within her the eternal Son the thanksgiving of the Church and whole People of God.


723 In Mary, the Holy Spirit fulfills the plan of the Father's loving goodness. With and through the Holy Spirit, the Virgin conceives and gives birth to the Son of God. By the Holy Spirit's power and her faith, her virginity became uniquely fruitful.[105]


724 The Holy Spirit in Mary, manifests the Son of the Father, now become the Son of the Virgin. She is the burning bush of the definitive theophany. Filled with the Holy Spirit she makes the Word visible in the humility of His flesh. She makes him known.[106] to the poor and the first representatives of the gentiles.


725 Through Mary, the Holy Spirit begins to bring men, the objects of God's merciful love,[107] into communion with Christ. And the humble are always the first to accept him: shepherds, magi, Simeon and Anna, the bride and groom at Cana, and the first disciples.


726 At the end of this mission of the Spirit, Mary became the Woman, the new Eve ("mother of the living"), the mother of the "whole Christ."[108] She was present with the Twelve, who "with one accord devoted themselves to prayer,"[109] at the dawn of the "end time" which the Spirit opened on the morning of Pentecost with the manifestation of the Church.


" 964 Mary's role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. "This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ's virginal conception up to his death";[502] it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion:


Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross.


In keeping with the divine plan there she stood, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: "Woman, behold your son."[503]


"Woman(symbolizing mother church) behold thy son. Son, behold thy mother." [John 19:26,et.seq.] Commentaries show the "woman" title Jesus" spoke of his mother subtly referenced the woman of Gen 3:15, "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel."( a footnote refers us to Is 7,14; 9:5; Rom 16, 20; 1 John 3,8; Rev 12,17.


Commentaries indicate He will strike ...at his heel: since the antecedent for he and his is the collective noun offspring, i.e., all the descendants of the woman, a more exact rendering of the sacred writer's word would be, "They will strike...at their heels."However, later theology saw in this passage more than unending hostility between snakes and men.


He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel" (Gen 3:15). Here, God promises humanity salvation through the woman of Genesis; her offspring will crush the head of the serpent. Jesus' reminds us in this way all that He is the salvation promised by His Father. He tells us that God always keeps His covenant.



The serpent was regarded as the devil(Wis 2,24; John 8, 44; Rev 12, 9; 20,2) whose eventual defeat seems implied in the contrast between head and heel. Because "the Son of God appeared that he might destroy the works of the devil".


(1 John 3,8), the passage can be understood as the first promise of a Redeemer for fallen mankind. The woman's offspring then is primarily Jesus Christ. and the enmity between her offspring and that of the Satan serpent.


"Mary beneath the cross represents a double role. First as feminine symbol of mother church, caring for, and placed in the care of Jesus' Apostle /disciples , who became her children, and consequently, Jesus' brothers and sisters.


Secondly, as woman of victory, showing the feminine contribution to salvation "the negative biblical portrait of Eva has been replaced by that of the life-giving Ave.


During Mary's presence at the Cross, her future role in Christianity is unveiled. "When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, 'Woman, behold your son.' Then he said to the disciple, `Behold, your mother.'"(John 19:26).


The use of the word "woman" in this context is unusual. Jesus, like any loving Jewish son of His time, would address His mother with more affection than the use of "woman" seems to indicate. However, Jesus, quoted at the Crucifixion and at the wedding at Cana, as refers to His mother as "woman".


A Genesis description of the Savior indicates, "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers.


The knot of Eve's disobedience was untied by Mary's obedience: what the virgin Eve bound through her disbelief, Mary loosened by her faith."[142] Comparing her with Eve, they call Mary "the Mother of the living" and frequently claim: "Death through Eve, life through Mary."[143]


MARY AS CHURCH MOTHER

Now, many of our Black Churches have Church mothers, the wife of the Pastor, or Pastor Emeritus. Mary, the model of humility and all other virtues, becomes the Mother of the Christian Church, Mother of Christians, at the birth of the Christian Community..


"The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the Redeemer.... She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ' ... since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."[500] "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."[501]


For the Crucifixion is the epitome of Christendom. Redemption was effected. Resurrection remains epilogue (since He himself had already foretold it would happen).


"But while in the most Blessed Virgin the church has already reached that perfection whereby she exists ...the faithful still strive to conquer sin and increase in holiness. And so they turn their eyes to Mary(cf Eph 5:26-27; Lumen Gentum 65) in her, the Church is already the "all- holy".


Western Catechism declare, "We look to Mary. In her we contemplate what the Church already is in her mystery on her own pilgrimage of faith, and what she will be in the homeland at the end of her journey.


There ,"in the glory of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity," "in the communion of all the saints,"(referencing Lumens Gentum 69) the Church is awaited by the one she venerates as Mother of her Lord and as her own mother.

(Note: The church means the total Christian church in all its divisions, branches. The church, because Christ established it, is all holy. It is the people that have problems).


In the meantime the Mother of Jesus, in the glory which she posses in body and soul in heaven, is the image and beginning of the Church as it is to be perfected in the world to come.


Likewise, she shines forth on earth, until the day of the Lord shall come, a sign of certain hope and comfort to the pilgrim people of God."(Lumen Gentum 68, cf 2 Pet 3:10)


"Mary goes before us all in the holiness that is the Church's mystery, as the bride without spot or wrinkle."(Eph 5:27). This is the "Marian" dimension of the Church precedes the "Petrine"(cf John Paul II Mulieres Dignitatum 27).


Now no Christian worships Mary. She is honored(as all mothers are honored, or should be). This mother of the Savior, Theotokos she is called in the Eastern Churches,"Called in the Gospels "the mother of Jesus", the Holy Spirit prompts Elizabeth to acclaim Mary at the prompting of the Spirit and even before the birth of her son, as "the mother of my Lord".[144]


In fact, the One whom she conceived as man by the Holy Spirit, who truly became her Son according to the flesh, was none other than the Father's eternal Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity. Hence the Church confesses that Mary is truly "Mother of God" (Theotokos).[145]


MOTHER FULL OF GRACE

967 By her complete adherence to the Father's will, to his Son's redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church's model of faith and charity. Thus she is a "preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church"; indeed, she is the "exemplary realization" (typus) of the Church.


968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. "In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior's work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace."


969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfilment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."


970 "Mary's function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin's salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it.


No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source."


"Mary Immaculate, delight of the Trinity God created for Himself, and then for the salvation of men was the first salvation, never deprived of the remembrance of God...An all knowing God conceived her from the beginning of His works. So Holy Church honors the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God with a special love."


"She is inseparably linked with the saving work of her Son. In her, the Church admirers and exalts the most excellent fruit of redemption. The Church also joyfully contemplates, as in a faultless image that which she herself desires and hopes wholly to be. (Sacrosanctum Concilium 103)


Paragraph numbers are to the Church's Catechism


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MARY - ESCHATOLOGICAL ICON OF THE CHURCH

972 After speaking of the Church, her origin, mission, and destiny, we can find no better way to conclude than by looking to Mary. In her we contemplate what the Church already is in her mystery on her own "pilgrimage of faith," and what she will be in the homeland at the end of her journey.


There, "in the glory of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity," "in the communion of all the saints,"[516] the Church is awaited by the one she venerates as Mother of her Lord and as her own mother.


In the meantime the Mother of Jesus, in the glory which she possesses in body and soul in heaven, is the image and beginning of the Church as it is to be perfected in the world to come. Likewise she shines forth on earth until the day of the Lord shall come, a sign of certain hope and comfort to the pilgrim People of God.[517]


IN BRIEF


973 By pronouncing her "fiat" at the Annunciation and giving her consent to the Incarnation, Mary was al ready collaborating with the whole work her Son was to accomplish. She is mother wherever he is Savior and head of the Mystical Body.


974 The Most Blessed Virgin Mary, when the course of her earthly life was completed, was taken up body and soul into the glory of heaven, where she already shares in the glory of her Son's Resurrection, anticipating the resurrection of all members of his Body.


975 "We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Christ" (Paul VI, CPG # 15).


Citations are to the Bible Apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary, The Catechims, Lumens Gentum


Exegesis/ Catechetics: (Western sources, but they are not antithetical to derivative, African thought)Sections 484-507 (with cross references);829;773,973;965;963-72;2030;273;966,974;485,509,723,490,488-93;508,491-92;489,721,968-70; as mediator, not source of God=s grace,970;in restoration of supernatural life into souls,968;intercessor before God, 969,975; Mother of the church,963;Panagia, 493;personification of the Church, 507; Theotokos,495;Throne of Wisdom,721; obedience of faith 144,494,511;prayer of Mary; 2617-19;prepared by the Holy Spirit, 722; prophecy of Jesus= birth 484; sinless during her life,411; virginity 496-507,510,502-506; in the gospels 497-98;500;tradition of the Fathers, 496.


Now the only thing mandated by the Liturgical Christian Church traditions one MUST believe with respect to Myriam, Mary, Mara is in the two creeds. AHe (Jesus) was born of the Virgin Mary...


With respect to Jesus= mother, that=s it. Todo! Finiti! Nada mas!


Research:
For those with a extensive prayer life(exegetical sources):
THE BIBLE (anybody=s copy, depending on your tradition And for that all important checking doctrinal/dogma re: quotations. Neither Jesus, nor His mother have ever uttered anything contra scripture. Impossible. Can=t be done. It=s the Father=s book.


Also, an Amplified Bible(s)(with footnotes)
a good concordance and commentary(not the same).
A good Bible Dictionary


www.ChristusRex.org
www.Alapadre.net


Metaphysical Sources(Do not view if on Aspiritual milk):


http://members.aol.com/bjw1106/marian.htm
http://www.medjugorje.org/
http://www.conyers.org/conyers.html
http://members.aol.com/bjw1106/marian1b.htm
http://web.frontier.net/Apparitions/Resources.html
(links to other apparitions, Betania, Guadalupe, etc).
http://www.nervline.com/therock/appar/emmits/frontier/emmitsbu.htm


Books:
16th Century City of God Ven Maria de Agreda (English translation available) Thomas A. Nelson book publishers have an extensive listing.


17th Century (anything by the German Anne Catherine Emmerich, English translation available) AThe Life and Passion of Our Lord, etc
18th Century: Life of St. Joseph (Maria Cecilia Bay, OSB (English Translation from the German, 101 Foundation, NJ)


20th Century: Poem of the Man God,5 Volumes, Maria Valtorta
Eastern Side(Byzantine): The Church of The Ancient Councils, St. Vladimirs Seminary Press.
Holy Qu=ran (there are a couples of Suras on her).
Other approved-- depending on your tradition-- apocryphal sources.


SPECIAL PRAYERS(Meditations)

Rosary of the Seven Sorrows: Mary's heart is pierced seven times.


1) The Prophesy
Joseph comforts Mary
. The Prophesy of Simeon to Mary (Luke 2:2-35)
Our Father, 7 Hail Marys
2) The Flight
Joseph has a dream.
Mary's Flight into Khemet-Egypt (Matthew 2:13-15)
Our Father, 7 Hail Marys
3) The Loss
Joseph comforts Mary.
Mary Loses Jesus in the Temple (Luke 2:43-51)
Our Father, 7 Hails Marys
4) The Meeting
Mary Meets Jesus Carrying the Cross (Luke 23:27)
Our Father, 7 Hail Marys
5) The Death
Mary at the Foot of the Cross (John 19:25-27)
Our Father, 7 Hail Marys
6) The Embrace
Mary Receives the Body of Jesus (John 19:38)
Our Father, 7 Hail Marys
7) The Burial
Mary Buries her Son Jesus (John 19:39-42)
Our Father, 7 Hail Marys

The Apostolic Constitution on the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary

YOUR BODY IS HOLY AND GLORIOUS

In their sermons and speeches on the feast day of the Assumption of the Mother of God, the holy fathers and the great doctors of the church were speaking of something that the faithful already knew and accepted: all they did was to bring it out into the open, to explain its meaning and substance in other terms.

Above all, they made it most clear that this feast commemorated not merely the fact that the blessed Virgin Mary did not experience bodily decay, but also her triumph over death and her heavenly glory, following the example of her only Son, Jesus Christ.

Thus St John Damascene, who is the greatest exponent of this tradition, compares the bodily Assumption of the revered Mother of God with her other gifts and privileges: It was right that she who had kept her virginity unimpaired through the process of giving birth should have kept her body without decay through death. It was right that she who had given her Creator, as a child, a place at her breast should be given a place in the dwelling-place of her God.

It was right that the bride espoused by the Father should dwell in the heavenly bridal chamber. It was right that she who had gazed on her Son on the cross, her heart pierced at that moment by the sword of sorrow that she had escaped at his birth, should now gaze on him seated with his Father. It was right that the Mother of God should possess what belongs to her on and to be honoured by every creature as the God's Mother and handmaid.

St Germanus of Constantinople considered that the preservation from decay of the body of the Mother of God, the Virgin Mary, and its elevation to heaven as being not only appropriate to her Motherhood but also to the peculiar sanctity of its virgin state:


It is written, that you appear in beauty, and your virginal body is altogether holy, altogether chaste, altogether the dwelling-place of God; from which it follows that it is not in its nature to decay into dust, but that it is transformed, being human, into a glorious and incorruptible life, the same body, living and glorious, unharmed, sharing in perfect life.

Another very ancient author asserts: Being the most glorious Mother of Christ our saviour and our God, the giver of life and immortality, she is given life by him and shares bodily incorruptibility for all eternity with him who raised her from the grave and drew her up to him in a way that only he can understand.

All that the holy fathers say refers ultimately to Scripture as a foundation, which gives us the vivid image of the great Mother of God as being closely attached to her divine Son and always sharing his lot.

It is important to remember that from the second century onwards the holy fathers have been talking of the Virgin Mary as the new Eve for the new Adam: not equal to him, of course, but closely joined with him in the battle against the enemy, which ended in the triumph over sin and death that had been promised even in Paradise.

The glorious resurrection of Christ is essential to this victory and its final prize, but the blessed Virgin's share in that fight must also have ended in the glorification of her body. For as the Apostle says: When this mortal nature has put on immortality, then the scripture will be fulfilled that says "Death is swallowed up in victory".

So then, the great Mother of God, so mysteriously united to Jesus Christ from all eternity by the same decree of predestination, immaculately conceived, an intact virgin throughout her divine motherhood, a noble associate of our Redeemer as he defeated sin and its consequences, received, as it were, the final crowning privilege of being preserved from the corruption of the grave and, following her Son in his victory over death, was brought, body and soul, to the highest glory of heaven, to shine as Queen at the right hand of that same Son, the immortal King of Ages.

On Mary's Virginity


Mary's virginal motherhood in God's plan


502 The eyes of faith can discover in the context of the whole of Revelation the mysterious reasons why God in his saving plan wanted his Son to be born of a virgin.


504 Jesus is conceived by the Holy Spirit in the Virgin Mary's womb because he is the New Adam, who inaugurates the new creation: "The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven."


[162] From his conception, Christ's humanity is filled with the Holy Spirit, for God "gives him the Spirit without measure."[163] From "his fullness" as the head of redeemed humanity "we have all received, grace upon grace."[164]


These reasons touch both on the person of Christ and his redemptive mission, and on the welcome Mary gave that mission on behalf of all men. 503 Mary's virginity manifests God's absolute initiative in the Incarnation. Jesus has only God as Father.



In fact, Christ's birth "did not diminish his mother's virginal integrity but sanctified it."[155] And so the liturgy of the Church celebrates Mary as Aeiparthenos, the "Ever-virgin".[156] 500 Against this doctrine the objection is sometimes raised that the Bible mentions brothers and sisters of Jesus.


[157] The Church has always understood these passages as not referring to other children of the Virgin Mary. In fact James and Joseph, "brothers of Jesus", are the sons of another Mary, a disciple of Christ, whom St. Matthew significantly calls "the other Mary".[158] They are close relations of Jesus, according to an Old Testament expression.


505 By his virginal conception, Jesus, the New Adam, ushers in the new birth of children adopted in the Holy Spirit through faith. "How can this be?"[165] Participation in the divine life arises "not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God".[166]


The acceptance of this life is virginal because it is entirely the Spirit's gift to man. The spousal character of the human vocation in relation to God[167] is fulfilled perfectly in Mary's virginal motherhood.


506 Mary is a virgin because her virginity is the sign of her faith "unadulterated by any doubt", and of her undivided gift of herself to God's will.[168] It is her faith that enables her to become the mother of the Savior: "Mary is more blessed because she embraces faith in Christ than because she conceives the flesh of Christ."[169]


507 At once virgin and mother, Mary is the symbol and the most perfect realization of the Church: "the Church indeed. . . by receiving the word of God in faith becomes herself a mother.


By preaching and Baptism she brings forth sons, who are conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of God, to a new and immortal life. She herself is a virgin, who keeps in its entirety and purity the faith she pledged to her spouse."[170]


510 Mary "remained a virgin in conceiving her Son, a virgin in giving birth to him, a virgin in carrying him, a virgin in nursing him at her breast, always a virgin" (St. Augustine, Serm. 186, 1: PL 38, 999): with her whole being she is "the handmaid of the Lord" (Lk 1:38).


511 The Virgin Mary "co-operated through free faith and obedience in human salvation" (LG 56). She uttered her yes "in the name of all human nature" (St. Thomas Aquinas, S Th III, 30, 1). By her obedience she became the new Eve, mother of the living.


Mary as Christ bearer is the bridge between the Old and The New Testament


"488 God sent forth his Son", but to prepare a body for him,[125] he wanted the free co-operation of a creature. For this, from all eternity God chose for the mother of his Son a daughter of Israel, a young Jewish woman of Nazareth in Galilee, "a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary":[126]


The Father of mercies willed that the Incarnation should be preceded by assent on the part of the predestined mother, so that just as a woman had a share in the coming of death, so also should a woman contribute to the coming of life.[127]"


MARY=S DEATH

"Mary lived about 15 years after Jesus' Ascension. She died around 69 or 70 years of age, around the reign of Claudius Caesar, having overseen her Son's sibling the Church struggle to take its first walks, and talking loudly, boldly.


Only Thomas missed the funeral. He wept bitterly because of it. 965 After her Son's Ascension, Mary "aided the beginnings of the Church by her prayers."[504] In her association with the apostles and several women, "we also see Mary by her prayers imploring the gift of the Spirit, who had already overshadowed her in the Annunciation."[505]


She was assumed(taken up)into Heaven.(Remember, Jesus went up under His own power). Now it is said there presently exists only two human bodies in heaven, Jesus, and Mary. Albeit glorified, these are also is composed of the corpus, as well.


966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death."


[506] The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:


In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.[507]



968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. "In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior's work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace."[509]


969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfilment of all the elect.


Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."[510]


970 "Mary's function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin's salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it."


[511] "No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source."[512]


"Mary Immaculate, delight of the Trinity God created for Himself, and then for the salvation of men was the first salvation, never deprived of the remembrance of God"


An all knowing God conceived her from the beginning of His works. So Holy Church honors the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God with a special love. She is inseparably linked with the saving work of her Son.


In her, the Church admirers and exalts the most excellent fruit of redemption and joyfully contemplates, as in a faultless image that which she herself desires and hopes wholly to be. (Sacrosanctum Concilium 103)


DEVOTION TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN


971 "All generations will call me blessed": "The Church's devotion to the Blessed Virgin is intrinsic to Christian worship."[513] The Church rightly honors "the Blessed Virgin with special devotion.


From the most ancient times the Blessed Virgin has been honored with the title of 'Mother of God,' to whose protection the faithful fly in all their dangers and needs.... This very special devotion ... differs essentially from the adoration which is given to the incarnate Word and equally to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and greatly fosters this adoration."


[514] The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an "epitome of the whole Gospel," express this devotion to the Virgin Mary.[515]



From the Book of the Ancestor: and Rev(Apoc) 12: 1,2


MARY, THEOTOKOS, MOTHER OF JESUS, MOTHER OF GOD

(Or all you wanted to know about Mary, But Were Afraid To Ask)


"A great and wondrous sign(Gen 37:9) appeared in the heaven: a woman clothed in the sun, the moon under her feet. On her head was a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and cried out in pain and distress (due to Eve's transgression[ Gen 3,16; cf Is 66,7-14] in labor giving birth".


While the passage bespeaks many meanings, the Byzantine, Church Oriental (including African), and Latin rite branches of the Mystical Body of Christ ascribes that the woman, on at least one level (following ancient world folkways) refers to and prefigures Mary, the Mother of Yeshua, Jesus Christ, the Savior and Redeemer of mankind.


As Woman, Mary , adorned with the sun, the moon, and the stars (Joseph's symbols in Gen to Jacob) signifies God's Old and New Testament people. Old Israel


births the Messiah(vs 5), becoming the New Israel. The church which suffers throughout the tribulation (Rev. 6,13-17).


The Revelations/ Apocalypse verses depict evil power , represented by a dragon fighting, God and his people. The dragon stalks the woman about to give birth. But her son is saved and "caught up to God and his throne"


"493 Eastern tradition Fathers call the Mother of God "the All-Holy" (Panagia). They celebrate her as "free from any stain of sin original or personal, her whole life, fashioned by the Holy Spirit and formed as a new creature, by God's grace", "Let it be done to me according to your word. . ." It was her previous temple service which probably allowed Simeon in the Spirit to speak to her (Luke 2:25-32),


490, 491 Centuries helped the Church recognize that Mary, "full of grace" through God,(Lk 1: 28) was redeemed from the moment of her conception." Archangel Gabriel salutes her at the moment of the annunciation as "full of grace".Lk 1:28.] "God enriched Mary to become the Savior's mother, with gifts appropriate to such a role."


By grace, she was conceived without sin as the most humble of creatures, the most capable of welcoming the inexpressible gift of the Almighty. For Mary to freely assent in her faith to the announcement of her vocation, it was necessary that she be wholly borne by God's grace. Thus Archanangel Gabriel greeted her as the "Daughter of Zion": "Rejoice." cf Zeph 3:14; Zech 2:14


Such assent at the Annunciation starts the fullness of time (Gal. 4:4), the time of fulfillment of God's promises and preparations, wherein the "whole fullness of deity" would dwell bodily (Col. 2:9).


"The Holy Trinity descended with Its perfections, inhabited with its Three Persons enclosed Its infinity in a small place." 485 "The mission of the Holy Spirit is always conjoined and ordered to that of the Son." cf John 16:14,15


Results of that acquiescence became the first of seven life- circumstances that earned her the title of Our Lady of Sorrows. At the time, she could have been stoned to death as an unwed mother.


But Our Lord in poetic literature said of her," in her, the absence of incentives, the inheritance of sin. She is contented only with loving God...In her, there is only the icy and white-hot wisdom of divine love.


A fire that strengthens the flesh with ice, so that iit may be a transparent mirror at the altar where God married a Virgin and does not lower Himself because His perfection embraces Her perfection, which as it becomes a bride, is only inferior to His by one point, subject to Him as a Woman, but without fault, as He is without fault".


486 "The Father's only Son, conceived as man in the womb of the Virgin Mary, is "Christ", that is to say, anointed by the Holy Spirit, from the beginning of his human existence."


As the Ark of The New Covenant (her womb), she returned to the traditional place of sanctuary for persecuted Jews, Africa. Joseph and Mary settle in and around what is now Old Cairo. Here, the around 4'5" Mary taught Jesus to read and write several languages. Reportedly, He studies at one the great African libraries in Heliopolis, about 6 miles nearby.


An African upbringing initially gave Yeshua His outlook on life. Experiences of the Holy Family there can still be spiritually felt in their old neighborhoods as Zeitun /Zaytoun, Khemet-Egypt Kemet).


Now, many of our Black Churches have Church mothers, the wife of the Pastor, or Pastor Emeritus. Mary, the model of humility and all other virtues, becomes the Mother of the Christian Church, Mother of Christians, at the birth of the Christian Community..


MARY-"EVER-VIRGIN"


Skeptics raise objections that the Bible mentions brothers and sisters of Jesus. cf Mk 3:31-35;6:3; 1 Cor 9:5; Gal 1:19. The Church always understood these passages as not referring to other children of the Virgin Mary.


James and Joseph, "brothers of Jesus", are the sons of another Mary, a disciple of Christ, whom St. Matthew significantly calls "the other Mary". Mt 13:55;28:1, cf Mt 27:56. They are close relations of Jesus, according to an Old Testament expression. Cf Gen 13:8; 14:16; 29:15 et seq.


501 Jesus is Mary's only son. But her spiritual motherhood extends to all men whom indeed he came to save: "The Son whom she brought forth is he whom God placed as the first-born among many brethren, that is, the faithful in whose generation and formation she co-operates with a mother's love."cf John 19:26-27; Rom 8:29; Rev. 12:17


Mary's Virginal Motherhood in God's Plan


502 The eyes of faith can discover in the context of the whole of Revelation the mysterious reasons why God in his saving plan wanted his Son to be born of a virgin. These reasons touch both on the person of Christ and his redemptive mission, and on the welcome Mary gave that mission on behalf of all men.


503 Mary's virginity manifests God's absolute initiative in the Incarnation. Jesus has only God as Father. "He was never estranged from the Father because of the human nature which he assumed. . . He is naturally Son of the Father as to his divinity and naturally son of his mother as to his humanity, but properly Son of the Father in both natures." 1 Cor 15: 45,47


504 Jesus is conceived by the Holy Spirit in the Virgin Mary's womb because he is the New Adam, who inaugurates the new creation: "The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven.


" From conception, Christ's humanity is filled with the Holy Spirit, for God "gives him the Spirit without measure." From "his fullness" as the head of redeemed humanity "we have all received, grace upon grace." Jn 1:16. Cf Col 1:18



510 Mary "remained a virgin in conceiving her Son, a virgin in giving birth to him, a virgin in carrying him, a virgin in nursing him at her breast, always a virgin" (St. Augustine, Serm. 186, 1: PL 38, 999): with her whole being she is "the handmaid of the Lord" (Lk 1:38). 511 The Virgin Mary "co-operated through free faith and obedience in human salvation" (LG 56).


She uttered her yes "in the name of all human nature" (St. Thomas Aquinas, S Th III, 30, 1). By her obedience she became the new Eve, mother of the living.


506 And Mary is a virgin because her virginity is the sign of her faith "unadulterated by any doubt", and of her undivided gift of herself to God's will. 1Cor 7:34-35. It is her faith that enables her to become the mother of the Saviour: "Mary is more blessed because she embraces faith in Christ than because she conceives the flesh of Christ."


507 Virgin and mother, Mary symbolizes the most perfect realization of the Church: "the Church indeed. . . by receiving the word of God in faith becomes herself a mother. By preaching and Baptism she brings forth sons, who are conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of God, to a new and immortal life.


She herself is a virgin, who keeps in its entirety and purity the faith she pledged to her spouse."


Mary, Christ bearer is the bridge between the Old and The New Testament


"Mary lived about 15 years after Jesus' Ascension. She died around 69 or 70 years of age, around the reign of Claudius Caesar, having overseen her Son's sibling the Church struggle to take its first walks, and talking loudly, boldly.


Only Thomas , coming in from India, missed the funeral. He wept bitterly because of it. After her Son's Ascension, Mary "aided the beginnings of the Church by her prayers." In her association with the apostles and several women, "we also see Mary by her prayers imploring the gift of the Spirit, who had already overshadowed her in the Annunciation."


She was Assumed into Heaven. Now, it is said there presently exists only two human bodies in heaven, Jesus, and Mary. Albeit glorified, these are also is composed of the corpus, as well.


966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death."cf Rev 19:16.


The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians: In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.


BLESSED VIRGIN MARY: MYRYM BAT JOACHIM OR
MARY The Mother of Yeshua MARY, THE MOTHER OF GOD

Virgin Mary: Jesus conceived of a virgin, by power of Holy Spirit:

Matt: 1, 18-25 in part, quoting, AAll this took place to fulfill what Our Lord had said through prophet, >Behold, Virgin shall be with child, and bear a son.

And creature shall call Him Emmanuel. Is 7, 14. (Earlier, Prophet Isaiah gave a sign to King Ahaz that a young woman (virgin: Greek translation-parthenos in our tradition, aiparthenos -ever Virgin) later would bear a son.

AYusef (Joseph) decided to make Jesus a Davidic child by assuming legal obligations of paternity, albeit, Mary was of House of David. Joseph, himself, was a virgin, through a vow of that perpetual state to God.

He became a betrothed while Mary was 14, and He 30-35. Although it is said of apocryphal gospels,(books that didn=t make final list or canon of Bible) Nativity of Mary and Proto-Evangelium of James, Joseph was between 80 and 90 years of age. Pictures of him to this day show him old. But now, he was 30ish.

(Now Mary was of House of David- see Luke 1:32 ALLUSION THERETO. HE WILL BE GREAT AND WILL BE CALLED SON OF THE MOST HIGH.(Most High is a title for God, commonly used by Luke (35.76; 6.35;8.28; Acts 7.48;16,17 ).

A: Although we have no extant genealogy of Mary other than the Metaphysical through such as Venerable Mary de Agreda, Anne Emmerich, and others, Luke 1:32 alludes to her being in line of David.

Since, Jesus had no human father, Mary's lineage puts Him in family of David. However, Matthew's Gospel shows difficulty in this.

He lists Joseph's lineage only, as Jewish custom dictates. Matthew traces Joseph back to David, but then states that Joseph is not Jesus' father.

For Matthew, when Joseph named Jesus, he became His legal father and so assured Jesus' place in Davidic line. In either case, evangelists saw no contradiction between Jesus' Davidic lineage and His birth from a Virgin.

Children: AHe had no relations with her until she bore a son, and he named Him Jesus. In our traditions, word until neither implies normal marital conduct after Jesus= birth, nor does it exclude it.

For literalist(unless one wants to add interpretation), it doesn=t say. If it doesn=t say, for literalists, then it isn=t there, it doesn't exist.Until Q: In Matthew 1:25, New American Bible states, "He [Joseph] had no relations with her [Mary] until she bore a son, and he named him Jesus. Does word "until" imply that marital relations occurred after Jesus was born?

According to Fr Rene Laurentin answers

Mt 1:25 says that "(Joseph) did not know her 'until' she had borne a son ... Jesus." 'To know' evidently here biblical sense of intercourse, contrary to interpretation proposed by certain Fathers of Church.

But may one conclude therefrom that Joseph 'knew' Mary afterwards? No, for this expression 'until' does not in any way anticipate what came to pass afterwards. According to Semitic usage it simply marks term and limit of author's interest.

The most striking example is 2 Sam. 6:23, "Michal daughter of Saul had no child 'until' day of her death." Obviously she had none afterwards either.

Similar uses are in Gen 8:7, Dt. 34:6, Num. 20:17, Ps 110:1, 1 Mac. 5:54, 1 Tim. 4:13, Is. 14:2, Mt. 16:28, 28:20 1 Cor 4:5. The expression 'until' in no way implies a change of situation after limits mentioned.

("Short Treatise on Mary", p. 321). Note especially that Matthew's Gospel itself uses word 'until' (i.e. heos in Greek) as Laurentin describes in two places besides Mt 1:25 (i.e. 16:28 and 28:20). note that in English 'until' may be used in this sense.

For example, statement "Our immigration policy will not change until we elect a new President" does not imply that a new President will change current policy, only certainty that current President will not. Q: Are there written sources which indicate belief by early Church in Mary's perpetual virginity?

A: Discussions of Mary's virginity (Mary's virginitas post partum) eventually came to examine Mary's virginity during three periods: ante partum (i.e. before birth of Christ); in partu (i.e. during delivery of Christ); and post partum (i.e. after birth of Christ).

The best sources of information on Mary's virginity prior to birth of Jesus are Infancy narratives in Gospels of Matthew and Luke, usually dated around 80 A.D.

There are several writings before 350 on both Mary's virginitas in partu and on her virginitas post partum which expand on Biblical reflection about Mary's virginitas ante partum.

The first witnesses are to be found in Apocrypha from around 150, especially: Protogospel of James, Book of Sybils, Ascent of Isaiah, and Acts of Peter (see: Corp. Mar. I, 131-158). These apocryphal texts may not be considered sufficient doctrinal justification for Mary's lifelong virginity.

However, it points out how widespread conviction about this point was among early Christians.

There are suggestions that Irenaeus (d. ca 220) and Justin (d. ca 165) may have alluded to Mary's virginitas in partu, but there are no explicit statements by either author.

Origen (d. 254) may first to affirm Mary's lifelong virginity (see: PG 14, 320) in commenting on Protogospel of James (see Corp. Mar. 265; GCS 38, 42f; PG 13, 1631). Clement of Alexandria (d. ca 215) accepted Protogospel of James without problem (Strom VII, 16, 93, 7) along with its perspective on Mary as ever-virgin.

However, Tertullian (d. ca 200) rejected apocryphal protogospel and with it Mary's virginitas in partu and her virginitas post partum (see De carne Christi, 23).

Others allude to Mark 6:3(as it is said, Matthew drew heavily on Mark (written around 70 A.D. and Matthew somewhat later near turn of century). In Mark's day, brothers and sisters could refer to cousins, stepbrothers or stepsisters, or members of extended family.

Now a crowd was sitting about him, and it said to him, Abehold, thy mother and thy brethren are outside, seeking thee. And he answered and said to them, Who are my mother and my brethren?

And looking round on those who were sitting about him, he said, ABehold, my mother and my brethren. For whoever does will of God, he my brother and sister and mother@. Again in 31, brethren : relatives of Jesus, not blood brothers. This wider use of term was common among Jews.

ABrothers and sisters@See Gn 14: 15(16) He recovered all goods, and his kinsmen Lot and his goods he recovered.MARY, THE MOTHER OF GOD Virgin Mary: Jesus conceived of a virgin, by power of Holy Spirit:

Matt: 1, 18-25 in part, quoting,AAll this took place to fulfill what Our Lord had said through prophet,>Behold, Virgin shall be with child, and bear a son. And creature shall call Him Emmanuel=@. Is 7, 14.(Earlier, Prophet Isaiah gave a sign to King Ahaz that a young woman (virgin: Greek translation-parthenos in our tradition, aiparthenos -ever Virgin) later would bear a son.

AIs he not carpenter=s, The son of Mary, and brother of James, and Joses, and Judas, and Simon@. But term Abrother (and sisters)@ here, included nephews, nieces, cousins, half brothers, and half sisters.

And Jewish term Ason of Mary@ designated only son of a widow. See Mark 3, 31: And his mother and his brethren came, and standing outside, sent to him, calling him.

DO ORTHODOX OR LATIN CHRISTIANS pray to Mary? Do creature adore Mary?

Though English words like 'worship' and 'adoration' are occasionally used to signify only veneration, honor or affection, creature are generally understood to refer to that highest type of worship reserved for God alone. In this sense, Catholics do NOT adore or worship Mary, or any other created person or thing.

The Ecumenical Council held at Nicaea in 787 considered issue of veneration which is not directed to Divine persons in relation to sacred images.

At this Council, Church taught that special type of worship called adoration may only be offered to God: Latria from Greek term for enslavement.

However, Church acknowledged that certain persons, though only creatures of God, are entitled to honor or veneration of a qualitatively lesser degree than absolute allegiance owed to God.

The Conciliar Fathers termed this lesser devotion: Dulia. Such veneration was proper for Mary and Saints. In view of Mary's important role in salvation history as Mother of Jesus, Church recognized that Mary warranted a special degree of honor among Saints.

For this class of devotion, St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274) suggested term hyperduliaQ: Why are candles lit in front of Mary's statue?

A: First, consider statues; then consider significance of candles burning near them. Statues have meaning only as "conductors;" creature help in directing our attention to one signified by statue.

A statue of Mary can be compared to such a "conductor." She leads to what is most important to her, and that is her Son Jesus Christ. All she does is put our petition before Our Lord and plead on our behalf.

Mary is a great woman, and of all entourage of Jesus, most intimately related to him. At same time, she is utterly dependent on God. Without this dependence neither her role nor her glory make much sense. The many candles may convey a sometimes ambiguous message. However, creature should never be understood as a sign of adoration. They are located at a side altar marking clearly subordination to main "attraction," which is Jesus Christ's salvific action symbolized in tabernacle, altar and gospels. Candles are not lit as a sign of adoration only. Although not known in Jewish liturgy of Old Testament, candles were used by Romans and from early Christian times on for evening prayer, in funeral processions, and were burned at tombs of dead, especially martyrs and relics of Saints. Hence, in Christian tradition candles do not have meaning of adoration. Popular devotion often let candle symbolize one's presence. One usually cannot spend long hours contemplating person represented by statue, so one leaves behind a lit candle to indicate: "If I could, I'd stay and think more about relationship of Jesus and Mary. So, let little flame stays in my stead. We might say to person represented by statue: "Think of me, though I leave here, and I will think of you." Have a look at "Mary Page" under "FAQ" and "Your Questions" for more observations on this topic, i.e., "Praying to Mary."Q: Is it proper to pray through Mary and saints although Bible says to pray only to Jesus and our Our Lord, God? A: There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying Hail Mary. The ground rules for authentic Christian prayer are following: 1) Jesus Christ is only mediator between God and us. 2) He taught us how to pray, makes our prayer accessible to God, and gives it merit to be granted through his salvific action. 3) Prayer makes sense in him and through him only. 4) Prayers we entrust to fellow brothers and sisters, to saints and Mary must follow these ground rules. We do not take away from Jesus but try to help ourselves by multiplying our friends who happen to be Jesus' friends, in case of Mary his mother. 5) Saints and Mary help us as models and intercessors. They teach us how to pray and discern God's will. They go with us to Jesus supporting us in our faith and worries. Then it is up to Jesus to do rest. 6) Is it ludicrous to believe that Jesus is blind and deaf to what his friends tell him, his mother in particular? It was his intention to make of his followers a Communion of Saints, meaning a community of interdependent believers helping each other in name of Jesus. Nobody is an island, isolated from everybody else. 7) This is sense of 1 Timothy 2,1-4: an invitation to all to offer "supplications, prayers, petitions, and thanksgiving...for everyone." This is not in contradiction with verse 5 (one God, one Mediator), not in Paul's mind for sure. Now if we should pray for each other, isn't it more appropriate to have saints with and for us? The saints are not dead but alive and well with God. Thanks to one=s spiritual intimacy with God creature have his ear. 8) As for Mary's help -- never that of a goddess! -- we should reread two passages from John's Gospel: (1) John 2,3 f. which shows clearly what Mary's role is. She intercedes with her Son for newly wed couple (v.3). Jesus rebukes her (v.4) not to tell her that she should refrain from interceding but to let her know that it was his decision as to whether, when and how he would help couple. He is master, sole mediator. Mary accepts. She does not insist with her Son but prepares servants to follow Jesus' order (v.5). We understand how Mary acts on our behalf: She brings our concerns before Our Lord, entrusts them to his infinite wisdom, and tells us to listen and follow Jesus' will. (2) John 19,25-27 is Jesus' testament regarding Mary's role in our life. He entrusts her to John, and apostle John to her motherly care. Being disciples of Christ ourselves, we have mutually inherited new hearts. Her role on our behalf is that of a mother: Mother of her Son she is our mother. Could there be any conflict between sons of same mother? Q: Why does Psalm 69, a Messianic Psalm, refer to Messiahs' brothers and sisters if He didn't have any? A: Psalm 69 as a whole may be messianic but person mentioned in 96.8 is not Christ but Psalmist. We are talking about brothers of psalmist, not of Jesus Christ as any solid interpretation of this psalm would point out. that nativity of these latter days when Word of God came down from heavens and was made flesh of holy and glorious Mary, mother of God and ever-virgin, and was born from her ... By way, those brothers and sister in Mark 3:31 et seq are Acousins@ throughout you see Paul referring to AMy brothers@, but creature are not. It=s just like Abro, or brother@ is used among African diasporic folks to this day. You know, it takes a village to raise a adage.

Mary=s title Immaculate Heart of Mary, refers specifically to JESUS (who is Immaculate Heart of Mary. Immaculate =Pure Heart, in Essenian Judaic construct, and many ancient peoplesBthe heart was seat of one=s action, analogous loosely to Spirit.

Heart, here =the Holy Spirit . Thus Pure Spirit of Mary( Immaculate Heart of Mary) is JESUS (God is salvation). (So now, when you pass by those churches, schools, colleges, and hospitals named Immaculate Heart, you=ll know creature are talking about Jesus= place).

Mary brought forth Word (Jesus-God is salvation) through her womb.(Thus second part of greeting ABlessed is fruit of thy womb@...

Some have commented on salutation of her cousin , El -iza- Beth (those who have studied denomination of God=s name, El, know significance), when she greeted Mary, REJOICE, MARY, FULL OF GRACE.

Now Agrace@in that context. means, Afavor of God@.

ABlessed@ (NOT real word, but an English translation of it, means Agrace@ here, as well). In Latin (established in Church by African chief priest St. Victor I words were ABeati Maria@... Bso we should not get too hung up on word Ablessed@.

Mary was (and is) new Ark of New Covenant. The New Covenant was (and is) Yeshua (God is Salvation, Jesus). Mary=s whole gig, her whole existence was to bring Jesus (God is Salvation).

Indeed those of Orthodox and Latin traditions know her own words that she exclaimed in an allusion her MAGNIFICAT, AMy Soul (that spirit given by Holy Spirit ), doth magnify Our Lord@. She prepared for job at a quite early age, being consecrated to temple and living there from age 5 until 12 when she had to become betrothed. In the temple, she repaired curtains and drapes of Holy of Holies (a precursor of Jesus= (God is Salvation) repairing all creation). To Be Continued: Black Catholics and MARY Mary Mothers in the black community. Extended mothers. Cook Seamstress Mary as blackBfrom the hosue of David...Aaronite and Davidic side. Example of virtue Example of obedience Mother of a Criminal-as so many of our black children are incacerated. Mother of a perceived felon MARY, THE MOTHER OF GOD Virgin Mary: Jesus conceived of a virgin, by the power of the Holy Spirit: Matt: 1, 18-25 in part, quoting,AAll this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet,>Behold, the Virgin shall be with child, and bear a son. And they shall call Him Emmanuel=@. Is 7, 14.(Earlier, the Prophet Isaiah gave a sign to King Ahaz that a young woman (virgin: Greek translation-parthenos in our tradition, aiparthenos -ever Virgin) later would bear a son. AYusef (Joseph) decided to make Jesus a Davidic child by assuming the legal obligations of paternity, albeit, Mary was also of the House of David. Joseph, himself, was a virgin, through a vow of that perpetual state to God. He became a betrothed while Mary was 14, and He 30-35. Although the it is said of the apocryphal gospels,(books that didn=t make the final list or canon of the Bible) Nativity of Mary and the Proto-Evangelium of James, Joseph was between 80 and 90 years of age. Pictures of him to this day show him old. But no, he was 30ish.(Now Mary was also of the House of David- see Luke 1:32 ALLUSION THERETO. HE WILL BE GREAT AND WILL BE CALLED SON OF THE MOST HIGH.(Most High is a title for God, commonly used by Luke (35.76; 6.35;8.28; Acts 7.48;16,17 ). A: Although we have no extant genealogy of Mary, Luke 1:32 alludes to her being in the line of David. Since, Jesus had no human father, Mary's lineage puts Him in the family of David. However, Matthew's Gospel shows the difficulty in this. He lists Joseph's lineage only, as Jewish custom dictates. Matthew traces Joseph back to David, but then states that Joseph is not Jesus' father. For Matthew, when Joseph named Jesus, he became His legal father and so assured Jesus' place in the Davidic line. In either case, the evangelists saw no contradiction between Jesus' Davidic lineage and His birth from a Virgin. Children: AHe had no relations with her until she bore a son, and he named Him Jesus. In our traditions, the word Auntil@neither implies normal marital conduct after Jesus= birth, nor does it exclude it. For the literalist(unless one wants to add interpretation), it doesn=t say. If it doesn=t say, for the literalists, then it isn=t there, it doesn=t exist.@Until@Q: In Matthew 1:25, the New American Bible states, "He [Joseph] had no relations with her [Mary] until she bore a son, and he named him Jesus. Does the word "until" imply that marital relations occurred after Jesus was born? According to Fr Rene Laurentin answers Mt 1:25 says that "(Joseph) did not know her 'until' she had borne a son ... Jesus." 'To know' evidently has here the biblical sense of intercourse, contrary to the interpretation proposed by certain Fathers of the Church. But may one conclude therefrom that Joseph 'knew' Mary afterwards? No, for this expression 'until' does not in any way anticipate what came to pass afterwards. According to Semitic usage it simply marks the term and limit of the author's interest. The most striking example is 2 Sam. 6:23, "Michal the daughter of Saul had no child 'until' the day of her death." Obviously she had none afterwards either. Similar uses are in Gen 8:7, Dt. 34:6, Num. 20:17, Ps 110:1, 1 Mac. 5:54, 1 Tim. 4:13, Is. 14:2, Mt. 16:28, 28:20 1 Cor 4:5. The expression 'until' in no way implies a change of situation after the limits mentioned. ("Short Treatise on Mary", p. 321). Note especially that Matthew's Gospel itself uses the word 'until' (i.e. heos in Greek) as Laurentin describes in two places besides Mt 1:25 (i.e. 16:28 and 28:20). Also note that in English 'until' may also be used in this sense. For example, the statement "Our immigration policy will not change until we elect a new President" does not imply that a new President will change the current policy, only certainty that the current President will not. Q: Are there written sources which indicate belief by the early Church in Mary's perpetual virginity? A: Discussions of Mary's virginity (Mary's virginitas post partum) eventually came to examine Mary's virginity during three periods: ante partum (i.e. before the birth of Christ); in partu (i.e. during the delivery of Christ); and post partum (i.e. after the birth of Christ). A Then Moses summoned Misael and Elisapha, the sons of Aarons uncle with the order,@Come, remove your kinsmen from the sanctuary and carry them to a place outside the camp@. (Joseph had brothers, who were married). And Joseph was dead at this time. Jesus ignored them, giving a discourse on who was His true brothers and sisters. Now in our tradition, at the death of Joseph (in his 61st year, Friday, at the 21st hour, generally thought to be our 19th March) there were no Abrothers and sisters@ present. Just Jesus and Mary. That other >brothers and sisters@ would not be present would have been inconceivable (in view of Jewish traditions on honoring ... father). But there could be none. Joseph had made a vow of perpetual virginity to God., as had Mary (Q: Does Mary's virginal marriage and conception diminish the spiritual value of ordinary married love)? A: Married love should not be called ordinary. After all, it was ordained by God at very start of human history. Mary was called to life-long virginity because of her special role in salvation history, being mother of the divine Son of God. In general, virginity is not perfection. Rather it is a sign of imperfection, of our need to cling to God in order to find fulfillment in Him. It is like a sore thumb pointing out that there is perfection only in God. In the case of Mary, virginity means that God is now and remains forever the initiator and creator of His bond with humanity, a free gift of His love materializing in Jesus Christ. Virgnity without active participation in God's creative act, however this materializes in the life of an individual believer, remains sterile. Virginity expresses constant readiness to be creative according to God's will for us. Virginity in and for itself is inhuman and god-less, the ultimate sign of sterility. As expression of our dedication/consecration to God, virginity is anticipation of life eternal, a reminder that our earthly experience is not an end in itself. punch up on the net, the traditions of the Essenian Jews, of which it is said Mary and Joseph belonged. Strict observers of the law). If one would argue that there was no mention of that death in the Bible, then by extension, he did not die.If as some suggest, the bible can be relied upon for everything. (Nor is there a mention of Mary=s death, so by the same analysis, she did not die). But we know he did, and she did, so we have to dig deeper, within other sources. Hence our reliance on tradition. (See also, Matt 12,47,48-50)@Someone told Him, your mother and your brothers are standing outside, asking to speak to you.@ This verse (47) is omitted in the original Codex Sinaiticus, and Codex Vaticanus. And older Bibles, ABehold, thy mother and brethren are standing outside,seeking thee(47) but he answered and said to him who told him, AWho is my mother and brethren? And stretching forth his hand towards his disciples, he said,@Behold, my mother and my brethren@ For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven, he is my brother and sister and mother.@(1961 version) Luke 8: 19-21,Then his mother and brothers came to him, but were unable to join him because of the crowd. He was told, AYour mother and your brothers and sisters are standing outside, and they wish to see you@. He said to them in reply, AMy mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and act on it.@ Older Bible: Now his mother and brethren came to him, and they could not go to him because of the crowd. And it was told him, AThy mother and thy brethren are standing outside, wishing to see thee@. My mother and my brethren are they who hear the word of God and act upon it@. Jesus felt spiritual relationship higher than carnal relationship. Q: If Mary had no children besides Jesus, how should we interpret biblical references to brothers and sisters of the Lord? A: The Greek word for these "brothers and sisters" derives from adelphoi. Differences of opinion on how this term should be interpreted existed in the early Church until around 380 CE. Tertullian and Helvidius considered these "adelphoi" to be full blood brothers and sisters of Jesus. Epiphanius and Origen considered them to be children of Joseph from a former marriage. Jerome opted for cousins of Jesus, children of another Mary, the wife of Clopas and sister of Mary of Nazareth, Jesus' Mother. The New Testament says nothing of any children of Joseph and Mary, nor does the earliest tradition of the Church. Various episodes crucial for the understanding of the Holy Family as family are silent: the genealogies of Matthew and Luke; the family pilgrimage to Jerusalem in Lk 2 without mention of brothers and sisters; Mary's entrustment to John at Calvary in Jn 19 rather than to a son or daughter. It is true that Catholic exegetes are influenced by the ancient doctrine of Mary's perpetual virginity and the singularity of the Christ event. For more details, see FAQ #18. The classic text on this question remains that of Joseph Blinzler. After a careful study of all the relevant texts, he offers this conclusion: The so-called brothers and sisters of Jesus were male and female cousins. The relationship of Simon and Jude with Jesus occurs through their father Clopas and thus, these were of the lineage of David. Their mother's name is not known. The mother of the Lord's brothers, James and Joses, was a different Mary from the Lord's mother. Either she or her husband were related to the family of Jesus, but the nature of the relationship cannot be ascertained (Joseph Blinzler, Die Bruder und Schwestern Jesu, 1967 quoted according to B. Buby in Mary of Galilee, Vol I of Mary in the New Testament series, 1994, p. 44) Catholic exegesis focuses both on fact and meaning. The Christ event (fact) implies an important spiritual dimension (meaning): Who is this Savior?; What is redemption?; Who is His Mother?; and what is their relationship? All of these questions lead to interpretation of the fact(s). Interpretations may never contradict facts. However, many facts are open to interpretation if not disproved. The spiritual dimension attempts to lead the reader from facts to significance. It is highly significant that Mary would be totally and exclusively dedicated to this only son, the savior of all. So, too, Paul used the phrase, not in the meaning of blood relations: Mary In the Bible: "Behold the Mother Of God""A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars."Revelations 12:1-2 The official acts of the Fifth Ecumenical Council held at Constantinople in 553 refer to Mary as aeiparthenos (i.e. ever-virgin). For example, an anathema against the 'three chapters' condemns those who deny: These statements were not made in reference to a direct discussion of Mary's virginity. Hence, some argue that this statement was not a dogmatic definition, even though it was issued within a definatory document. For Catholics, such definitions may be made by the episcopal college, in communion with its President, the Bishop of Rome, or by the Pope in virtue of his Presidency over the entire episcopal college. Such definitions must be derived, at least implicitly, from the revelation closed at the death of the Apostles. (If it is not dogma, if you don=t want to believe, then don=t, but you might be condemned in certain circles. But no more burning at the stake.)Following the example of Mary, the Church remains the virgin faithful to her spouse ... For the Church is the Spouse of Christ, as is clear from the Pauline Letters (cf. Eph 5:21-33; 2 Cor 11:2), and from the title found in John: "bride of the Lamb" (Rev 21:9). If the Church as spouse "keeps the fidelity she has pledged to Christ", this fidelity, even though in the Apostle's teaching it has become an image of marriage (cf Eph 5:23-33), also has value as a model of total self-giving to God in celibacy "for the kingdom of heaven", in virginity consecrated to God (cf. Mt 19:11-12; 2 Cor 11:2). Precisely such virginity, after the example of the Virgin of Nazareth, is the source of a special spiritual fruitfulness: it is the source of motherhood in the Holy Spirit. (Mother of the Redeemer #43) NOW DO ORTHODOX OR LATIN CHRISTIANS pray to Mary? Do they adore Mary? Though English words like 'worship' and 'adoration' are occasionally used to signify only veneration, honor or affection, they are generally understood to refer to that highest type of worship reserved for God alone. In this sense, Catholics do NOT adore or worship Mary, or any other created person or thing. The Ecumenical Council held at Nicaea in 787 considered the issue of veneration which is not directed to the Divine persons in relation to sacred images. At this Council, the Church taught that the special type of worship called adoration may only be offered to God: Latria from the Greek term for enslavement. However, the Church also acknowledged that certain persons, though only creatures of God, are entitled to honor or veneration of a qualitatively lesser degree than the absolute allegiance owed to God. The Conciliar Fathers termed this lesser devotion: Dulia. Such veneration was proper for Mary and the Saints. In view of Mary's important role in salvation history as Mother of Jesus, the Church recognized that Mary warranted a special degree of honor among the Saints. For this class of devotion, St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274) suggested the term hyperduliaQ: Why are candles lit in front of Mary's statue? A: First, consider statues; then consider the significance of the candles burning near them. Statues have meaning only as "conductors;" they help in directing our attention to the one signified by the statue. A statue of Mary can be compared to such a "conductor." She leads to what is most important to her, and that is her Son Jesus Christ. All she does is put our petition before the Lord and plead on our behalf. On the Cross, woman behold thy mother. Jesus was actually giving us to Mary, in our tradition, this is why we call her Our Blessed Mother. Referencing God the Father, and ending with Jesus, well, as aforementioned, so does the Rosary mantra. Once again, want answers to prayer (Christian) ,or Marian theology, go to www.alapadre .net or www.ChristusRex.org and your fears will be allayed.. Look at Mary with Africanized eyes, not Eurocentrically, and it will all become clear. Re: Mary-Co-Redemptrix To the members of the Mystical body of Christ (that=s all Christendom combined, without the political divisions, and those not united philosophically to the Orthodox nor Latin roots). Not taking away from no one=s sacred beliefs (and respecting all), we fail to see (and that=s not hard, as we wear glasses) how the promulgation in anyway takes away from Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. For Mary always BRINGS AND LIFTS UP JESUS, not attenuates Him. The promulgation of the doctrine (which, by the way does NOT have to be accepted by those not within the Latin or Orthodox side of the Church; just as a condition of rain does NOT have to be accepted by those getting wet) in no way diminishes the salvation of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. How can one take away from God? One cannot take away from the SOURCE of all things. Now our discussion below shall be quite simplistic, for we need not repeat the machinations of our European brethren in examining things in too much detail (not seeing the trees because of the forest, so to speak). Now Myryam Bat Joachim--called by us Blessed Virgin Mary, La Virgen, Mary, and other appellations-- herself has indicated her whole purpose is to bring Jesus (Yeshua-God Is Salvation), to uplift Jesus (God is Salvation), to PUSH Jesus, to teach JESUS. (We place the definitions so that one may readily understand and break down in exegesis-which is a breaking open The Word--what is going on and meant). We have said it before her title the Immaculate Heart of Mary, refers specifically to JESUS (who is the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Immaculate =Pure Heart, in the Essenian Judaic construct, and even many ancient peoplesBthe heart was the seat of one=s action, analogous loosely to Spirit Heart, here =the Holy Spirit . Thus the Pure Spirit of Mary(the Immaculate Heart of Mary) is JESUS (God is salvation). (So now, when you pass by those churches, schools, colleges, and hospitals named Immaculate Heart, you=ll know they are talking about Jesus= place). Mary brought forth the Word (Jesus-God is salvation) through her womb.(Thus the second part of the greeting ABlessed is the fruit of thy womb@... Some have commented on the salutation of her cousin , El -iza- Beth (those who have studied the denomination of God=s name, El, know the significance), when she greeted Mary, REJOICE, MARY, FULL OF GRACE. Now Agrace@in that context. means, Afavor of God@. ABlessed@ (NOT the real word, but an English translation of it, means Agrace@ here, as well). In Latin (established in the Church by the African chief priest St. Victor I the words were ABeati Maria@... Bso we should not get too hung up on the word Ablessed@. Mary was (and is) the new Ark of the New Covenant. The New Covenant was (and is) Yeshua (God is Salvation, Jesus). Mary=s whole gig, her whole existence was to bring Jesus (God is Salvation). Indeed those of the Orthodox and Latin traditions know her own words that she exclaimed in an allusion her MAGNIFICAT, AMy Soul (that spirit given by the Holy Spirit ), doth magnify the Lord@. She prepared for the job at a quite early age, being consecrated to the temple and living there from age 5 until 12 when she had to become betrothed. In the temple she repaired the curtains and drapes of the Holy of Holies (a precursor of Jesus= (God is Salvation) repairing all creation). Now one must follow that way one has chosen, or upon one has set his or her own foot along the path, unless one makes a conscience determination to change that path. Let us Black folks not get caught up in Amy Christianity is better than your Christianity@. That is a decidedly European construct. Let=s not sink in that quicksand. We have known Khemetians, and Buddhists, and followers of Al Islam more Christian than we. (After all Christianity is not the title, but the doing. Loving god, and Loving one=s neighbor. Seems to me that Yeshua said all the law and (words) of the prophets were ensconced in these rubrics. I t ain=t about reciting, or knowing or even reading the word. IT IS ABOUT LIVING THE WORD). Far too many of our brethren look upon the Orthodox and Latin Church root with European eyes of reformation-a condition the Africans (our African ancestors) WERE NOT A PART THEREOF, having been among the first converted. As per Myrym=s own words: : " Children, today I invite you that each of you begin anew to love first God who saved and redeemed each of you, and then brothers and sisters in your vicinity. Without love, little children, you cannot grow in holiness and you cannot do good deeds. Therefore, little children, pray without ceasing that God reveals His love to you. I have invited all of you to unite yourselves with me, and to love. Today also, I am with you and I invite you to discoverlove in your hearts and in your families. For God to live in your hearts, you must love@. (No we are NOT going to discuss the source. Those that know know. Those don=t, won=t believe anyway). MARY NEVER LIFTS UP HERSELF, BLESSED VIRGIN MARY: MYRYM BAT JOACHIM OR
MARY The Mother of Yeshua MARY, THE MOTHER OF GOD

Virgin Mary: Jesus conceived of a virgin, by power of Holy Spirit:

Matt: 1, 18-25 in part, quoting, AAll this took place to fulfill what Our Lord had said through prophet, >Behold, Virgin shall be with child, and bear a son.

And creature shall call Him Emmanuel.@ Is 7, 14. (Earlier, Prophet Isaiah gave a sign to King Ahaz that a young woman (virgin: Greek translation-parthenos in our tradition, aiparthenos -ever Virgin) later would bear a son.

AYusef (Joseph) decided to make Jesus a Davidic child by assuming legal obligations of paternity, albeit, Mary was of House of David. Joseph, himself, was a virgin, through a vow of that perpetual state to God.

He became a betrothed while Mary was 14, and He 30-35. Although it is said of apocryphal gospels,(books that didn=t make final list or canon of Bible) Nativity of Mary and Proto-Evangelium of James, Joseph was between 80 and 90 years of age. Pictures of him to this day show him old. But now, he was 30ish.

(Now Mary was of House of David- see Luke 1:32 ALLUSION THERETO. HE WILL BE GREAT AND WILL BE CALLED SON OF THE MOST HIGH.(Most High is a title for God, commonly used by Luke (35.76; 6.35;8.28; Acts 7.48;16,17 ).

A: Although we have no extant genealogy of Mary other than the Metaphysical through such as Venerable Mary de Agreda, Anne Emmerich, and others, Luke 1:32 alludes to her being in line of David.

Since, Jesus had no human father, Mary's lineage puts Him in family of David. However, Matthew's Gospel shows difficulty in this.

He lists Joseph's lineage only, as Jewish custom dictates. Matthew traces Joseph back to David, but then states that Joseph is not Jesus' father.

For Matthew, when Joseph named Jesus, he became His legal father and so assured Jesus' place in Davidic line. In either case, evangelists saw no contradiction between Jesus' Davidic lineage and His birth from a Virgin.

Children: AHe had no relations with her until she bore a son, and he named Him Jesus. In our traditions, word Auntil@neither implies normal marital conduct after Jesus= birth, nor does it exclude it.

For literalist(unless one wants to add interpretation), it doesn=t say. If it doesn=t say, for literalists, then it isn=t there, it doesn=t exist.@Until@Q: In Matthew 1:25, New American Bible states, "He [Joseph] had no relations with her [Mary] until she bore a son, and he named him Jesus. Does word "until" imply that marital relations occurred after Jesus was born?

According to Fr Rene Laurentin answers

Mt 1:25 says that "(Joseph) did not know her 'until' she had borne a son ... Jesus." 'To know' evidently here biblical sense of intercourse, contrary to interpretation proposed by certain Fathers of Church.

But may one conclude therefrom that Joseph 'knew' Mary afterwards? No, for this expression 'until' does not in any way anticipate what came to pass afterwards. According to Semitic usage it simply marks term and limit of author's interest.

The most striking example is 2 Sam. 6:23, "Michal daughter of Saul had no child 'until' day of her death." Obviously she had none afterwards either.

Similar uses are in Gen 8:7, Dt. 34:6, Num. 20:17, Ps 110:1, 1 Mac. 5:54, 1 Tim. 4:13, Is. 14:2, Mt. 16:28, 28:20 1 Cor 4:5. The expression 'until' in no way implies a change of situation after limits mentioned.

("Short Treatise on Mary", p. 321). Note especially that Matthew's Gospel itself uses word 'until' (i.e. heos in Greek) as Laurentin describes in two places besides Mt 1:25 (i.e. 16:28 and 28:20). note that in English 'until' may be used in this sense.

For example, statement "Our immigration policy will not change until we elect a new President" does not imply that a new President will change current policy, only certainty that current President will not. Q: Are there written sources which indicate belief by early Church in Mary's perpetual virginity?

A: Discussions of Mary's virginity (Mary's virginitas post partum) eventually came to examine Mary's virginity during three periods: ante partum (i.e. before birth of Christ); in partu (i.e. during delivery of Christ); and post partum (i.e. after birth of Christ).

The best sources of information on Mary's virginity prior to birth of Jesus are Infancy narratives in Gospels of Matthew and Luke, usually dated around 80 A.D.

There are several writings before 350 on both Mary's virginitas in partu and on her virginitas post partum which expand on Biblical reflection about Mary's virginitas ante partum.

The first witnesses are to be found in Apocrypha from around 150, especially: Protogospel of James, Book of Sybils, Ascent of Isaiah, and Acts of Peter (see: Corp. Mar. I, 131-158). These apocryphal texts may not be considered sufficient doctrinal justification for Mary's lifelong virginity.

However, it points out how widespread conviction about this point was among early Christians.

There are suggestions that Irenaeus (d. ca 220) and Justin (d. ca 165) may have alluded to Mary's virginitas in partu, but there are no explicit statements by either author.

Origen (d. 254) may first to affirm Mary's lifelong virginity (see: PG 14, 320) in commenting on Protogospel of James (see Corp. Mar. 265; GCS 38, 42f; PG 13, 1631). Clement of Alexandria (d. ca 215) accepted Protogospel of James without problem (Strom VII, 16, 93, 7) along with its perspective on Mary as ever-virgin.

However, Tertullian (d. ca 200) rejected apocryphal protogospel and with it Mary's virginitas in partu and her virginitas post partum (see De carne Christi, 23).

Others allude to Mark 6:3(as it is said, Matthew drew heavily on Mark (Mark written around 70 A.D. and Matthew somewhat later near turn of century). In Mark=s day, brothers and sisters could refer to cousins, stepbrothers or stepsisters, or members of extended family.

Now a crowd was sitting about him, and it said to him, Abehold, thy mother and thy brethren are outside, seeking thee.@ And he answered and said to them,@ Who are my mother and my brethren?@

And looking round on those who were sitting about him, he said, ABehold, my mother and my brethren. For whoever does will of God, he my brother and sister and mother@. Again in 31, brethren : relatives of Jesus, not blood brothers. This wider use of term was common among Jews.

ABrothers and sisters@See Gn 14: 15(16) He recovered all goods, and his kinsmen Lot and his goods he recovered.MARY, THE MOTHER OF GOD Virgin Mary: Jesus conceived of a virgin, by power of Holy Spirit:

Matt: 1, 18-25 in part, quoting,AAll this took place to fulfill what Our Lord had said through prophet,>Behold, Virgin shall be with child, and bear a son. And creature shall call Him Emmanuel=@. Is 7, 14.(Earlier, Prophet Isaiah gave a sign to King Ahaz that a young woman (virgin: Greek translation-parthenos in our tradition, aiparthenos -ever Virgin) later would bear a son.

AIs he not carpenter=s, The son of Mary, and brother of James, and Joses, and Judas, and Simon@. But term Abrother (and sisters)@ here, included nephews, nieces, cousins, half brothers, and half sisters.

And Jewish term Ason of Mary@ designated only son of a widow. See Mark 3, 31: And his mother and his brethren came, and standing outside, sent to him, calling him.

DO ORTHODOX OR LATIN CHRISTIANS pray to Mary? Do creature adore Mary?

Though English words like 'worship' and 'adoration' are occasionally used to signify only veneration, honor or affection, creature are generally understood to refer to that highest type of worship reserved for God alone. In this sense, Catholics do NOT adore or worship Mary, or any other created person or thing.

The Ecumenical Council held at Nicaea in 787 considered issue of veneration which is not directed to Divine persons in relation to sacred images.

At this Council, Church taught that special type of worship called adoration may only be offered to God: Latria from Greek term for enslavement.

However, Church acknowledged that certain persons, though only creatures of God, are entitled to honor or veneration of a qualitatively lesser degree than absolute allegiance owed to God.

The Conciliar Fathers termed this lesser devotion: Dulia. Such veneration was proper for Mary and Saints. In view of Mary's important role in salvation history as Mother of Jesus, Church recognized that Mary warranted a special degree of honor among Saints.

For this class of devotion, St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274) suggested term hyperduliaQ: Why are candles lit in front of Mary's statue?

A: First, consider statues; then consider significance of candles burning near them. Statues have meaning only as "conductors;" creature help in directing our attention to one signified by statue.

A statue of Mary can be compared to such a "conductor." She leads to what is most important to her, and that is her Son Jesus Christ. All she does is put our petition before Our Lord and plead on our behalf.

Mary is a great woman, and of all entourage of Jesus, most intimately related to him. At same time, she is utterly dependent on God. Without this dependence neither her role nor her glory make much sense. The many candles may convey a sometimes ambiguous message. However, creature should never be understood as a sign of adoration. They are located at a side altar marking clearly subordination to main "attraction," which is Jesus Christ's salvific action symbolized in tabernacle, altar and gospels. Candles are not lit as a sign of adoration only. Although not known in Jewish liturgy of Old Testament, candles were used by Romans and from early Christian times on for evening prayer, in funeral processions, and were burned at tombs of dead, especially martyrs and relics of Saints. Hence, in Christian tradition candles do not have meaning of adoration. Popular devotion often let candle symbolize one's presence. One usually cannot spend long hours contemplating person represented by statue, so one leaves behind a lit candle to indicate: "If I could, I'd stay and think more about relationship of Jesus and Mary. So, let little flame stays in my stead. We might say to person represented by statue: "Think of me, though I leave here, and I will think of you." Have a look at "Mary Page" under "FAQ" and "Your Questions" for more observations on this topic, i.e., "Praying to Mary."Q: Is it proper to pray through Mary and saints although Bible says to pray only to Jesus and our Our Lord, God? A: There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying Hail Mary. The ground rules for authentic Christian prayer are following: 1) Jesus Christ is only mediator between God and us. 2) He taught us how to pray, makes our prayer accessible to God, and gives it merit to be granted through his salvific action. 3) Prayer makes sense in him and through him only. 4) Prayers we entrust to fellow brothers and sisters, to saints and Mary must follow these ground rules. We do not take away from Jesus but try to help ourselves by multiplying our friends who happen to be Jesus' friends, in case of Mary his mother. 5) Saints and Mary help us as models and intercessors. They teach us how to pray and discern God's will. They go with us to Jesus supporting us in our faith and worries. Then it is up to Jesus to do rest. 6) Is it ludicrous to believe that Jesus is blind and deaf to what his friends tell him, his mother in particular? It was his intention to make of his followers a Communion of Saints, meaning a community of interdependent believers helping each other in name of Jesus. Nobody is an island, isolated from everybody else. 7) This is sense of 1 Timothy 2,1-4: an invitation to all to offer "supplications, prayers, petitions, and thanksgiving...for everyone." This is not in contradiction with verse 5 (one God, one Mediator), not in Paul's mind for sure. Now if we should pray for each other, isn't it more appropriate to have saints with and for us? The saints are not dead but alive and well with God. Thanks to one=s spiritual intimacy with God creature have his ear. 8) As for Mary's help -- never that of a goddess! -- we should reread two passages from John's Gospel: (1) John 2,3 f. which shows clearly what Mary's role is. She intercedes with her Son for newly wed couple (v.3). Jesus rebukes her (v.4) not to tell her that she should refrain from interceding but to let her know that it was his decision as to whether, when and how he would help couple. He is master, sole mediator. Mary accepts. She does not insist with her Son but prepares servants to follow Jesus' order (v.5). We understand how Mary acts on our behalf: She brings our concerns before Our Lord, entrusts them to his infinite wisdom, and tells us to listen and follow Jesus' will. (2) John 19,25-27 is Jesus' testament regarding Mary's role in our life. He entrusts her to John, and apostle John to her motherly care. Being disciples of Christ ourselves, we have mutually inherited new hearts. Her role on our behalf is that of a mother: Mother of her Son she is our mother. Could there be any conflict between sons of same mother? Q: Why does Psalm 69, a Messianic Psalm, refer to Messiahs' brothers and sisters if He didn't have any? A: Psalm 69 as a whole may be messianic but person mentioned in 96.8 is not Christ but Psalmist. We are talking about brothers of psalmist, not of Jesus Christ as any solid interpretation of this psalm would point out. that nativity of these latter days when Word of God came down from heavens and was made flesh of holy and glorious Mary, mother of God and ever-virgin, and was born from her ... By way, those brothers and sister in Mark 3:31 et seq are Acousins@ throughout you see Paul referring to AMy brothers@, but creature are not. It=s just like Abro, or brother@ is used among African diasporic folks to this day. You know, it takes a village to raise a adage.

Mary=s title Immaculate Heart of Mary, refers specifically to JESUS (who is Immaculate Heart of Mary. Immaculate =Pure Heart, in Essenian Judaic construct, and many ancient peoplesBthe heart was seat of one=s action, analogous loosely to Spirit.

Heart, here =the Holy Spirit . Thus Pure Spirit of Mary( Immaculate Heart of Mary) is JESUS (God is salvation). (So now, when you pass by those churches, schools, colleges, and hospitals named Immaculate Heart, you=ll know creature are talking about Jesus= place).

Mary brought forth Word (Jesus-God is salvation) through her womb.(Thus second part of greeting ABlessed is fruit of thy womb@...

Some have commented on salutation of her cousin , El -iza- Beth (those who have studied denomination of God=s name, El, know significance), when she greeted Mary, REJOICE, MARY, FULL OF GRACE.

Now gracein that context. means, favor of God@.

ABlessed (NOT real word, but an English translation of it, means Agrace@ here, as well). In Latin (established in Church by African chief priest St. Victor I words were ABeati Maria... Bso we should not get too hung up on word Ablessed.

Mary was (and is) new Ark of New Covenant. The New Covenant was (and is) Yeshua (God is Salvation, Jesus). Mary=s whole gig, her whole existence was to bring Jesus (God is Salvation).

Indeed those of Orthodox and Latin traditions know her own words that she exclaimed in an allusion her MAGNIFICAT, AMy Soul (that spirit given by Holy Spirit ), doth magnify Our Lord.


She prepared for job at a quite early age, being consecrated to temple and living there from age 5 until 12 when she had to become betrothed.


In the temple, she repaired curtains and drapes of Holy of Holies (a precursor of Jesus= (God is Salvation) repairing all creation). To Be Continued: Black Catholics and MARY Mary Mothers in the black community. Extended mothers. Cook Seamstress Mary as blackBfrom the hosue of David...Aaronite and Davidic side. Example of virtue Example of obedience Mother of a Criminal-as so many of our black children are incacerated. Mother of a perceived felon MARY, THE MOTHER OF GOD Virgin Mary: Jesus conceived of a virgin, by the power of the Holy Spirit:


Matt: 1, 18-25 in part, quoting,AAll this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet,>Behold, the Virgin shall be with child, and bear a son. And they shall call Him Emmanuel. Is 7, 14.


(Earlier, the Prophet Isaiah gave a sign to King Ahaz that a young woman (virgin: Greek translation-parthenos in our tradition, aiparthenos -ever Virgin) later would bear a son.


Ausef (Joseph) decided to make Jesus a Davidic child by assuming the legal obligations of paternity, albeit, Mary was also of the House of David. Joseph, himself, was a virgin, through a vow of that perpetual state to God.


He became a betrothed while Mary was 14, and He 30-35. Although the it is said of the apocryphal gospels,(books that didn=t make the final list or canon of the Bible) Nativity of Mary and the Proto-Evangelium of James, Joseph was between 80 and 90 years of age.


Pictures of him to this day show him old. But no, he was 30ish.(Now Mary was also of the House of David- see Luke 1:32 ALLUSION THERETO. HE WILL BE GREAT AND WILL BE CALLED SON OF THE MOST HIGH.(Most High is a title for God, commonly used by Luke (35.76; 6.35;8.28; Acts 7.48;16,17 ).


A: Although we have no extant genealogy of Mary, Luke 1:32 alludes to her being in the line of David. Since, Jesus had no human father, Mary's lineage puts Him in the family of David. However, Matthew's Gospel shows the difficulty in this. He lists Joseph's lineage only, as Jewish custom dictates.


Matthew traces Joseph back to David, but then states that Joseph is not Jesus' father. For Matthew, when Joseph named Jesus, he became His legal father and so assured Jesus' place in the Davidic line. In either case, the evangelists saw no contradiction between Jesus' Davidic lineage and His birth from a Virgin.


Children: He had no relations with her until she bore a son, and he named Him Jesus. In our traditions, the word until neither implies normal marital conduct after Jesus= birth, nor does it exclude it. For the literalist(unless one wants to add interpretation), it doesn=t say. If it doesn=t say, for the literalists, then it isn't there, it doesn't exist.


Until Q: In Matthew 1:25, the New American Bible states, "He [Joseph] had no relations with her [Mary] until she bore a son, and he named him Jesus. Does the word "until" imply that marital relations occurred after Jesus was born?


According to Fr Rene Laurentin answers


Mt 1:25 says that "(Joseph) did not know her 'until' she had borne a son ... Jesus." 'To know' evidently has here the biblical sense of intercourse, contrary to the interpretation proposed by certain Fathers of the Church.


But may one conclude therefrom that Joseph 'knew' Mary afterwards? No, for this expression 'until' does not in any way anticipate what came to pass afterwards.


According to Semitic usage it simply marks the term and limit of the author's interest. The most striking example is 2 Sam. 6:23, "Michal the daughter of Saul had no child 'until' the day of her death." Obviously she had none afterwards either.


Similar uses are in Gen 8:7, Dt. 34:6, Num. 20:17, Ps 110:1, 1 Mac. 5:54, 1 Tim. 4:13, Is. 14:2, Mt. 16:28, 28:20 1 Cor 4:5. The expression 'until' in no way implies a change of situation after the limits mentioned. ("Short Treatise on Mary", p. 321).


Note especially that Matthew's Gospel itself uses the word 'until' (i.e. heos in Greek) as Laurentin describes in two places besides Mt 1:25 (i.e. 16:28 and 28:20).


Also note that in English 'until' may also be used in this sense. For example, the statement "Our immigration policy will not change until we elect a new President" does not imply that a new President will change the current policy, only certainty that the current President will not.


Q: Are there written sources which indicate belief by the early Church in Mary's perpetual virginity?


A: Discussions of Mary's virginity (Mary's virginitas post partum) eventually came to examine Mary's virginity during three periods: ante partum (i.e. before the birth of Christ); in partu (i.e. during the delivery of Christ); and post partum (i.e. after the birth of Christ).


Then Moses summoned Misael and Elisapha, the sons of Aarons uncle with the order,Come, remove your kinsmen from the sanctuary and carry them to a place outside the camp.


(Joseph had brothers, who were married). And Joseph was dead at this time. Jesus ignored them, giving a discourse on who was His true brothers and sisters. Now in our tradition, at the death of Joseph (in his 61st year, Friday, at the 21st hour, generally thought to be our 19th March) there were no brothers and sisters present. Just Jesus and Mary. That other >brothers and sisters would not be present would have been inconceivable (in view of Jewish traditions on honoring ... father). But there could be none. Joseph had made a vow of perpetual virginity to God., as had Mary


(Q: Does Mary's virginal marriage and conception diminish the spiritual value of ordinary married love)?


A: Married love should not be called ordinary. After all, it was ordained by God at very start of human history. Mary was called to life-long virginity because of her special role in salvation history, being mother of the divine Son of God. In general, virginity is not perfection.


Rather it is a sign of imperfection, of our need to cling to God in order to find fulfillment in Him. It is like a sore thumb pointing out that there is perfection only in God. In the case of Mary, virginity means that God is now and remains forever the initiator and creator of His bond with humanity, a free gift of His love materializing in Jesus Christ.


Virgnity without active participation in God's creative act, however this materializes in the life of an individual believer, remains sterile. Virginity expresses constant readiness to be creative according to God's will for us. Virginity in and for itself is inhuman and god-less, the ultimate sign of sterility.


As expression of our dedication/consecration to God, virginity is anticipation of life eternal, a reminder that our earthly experience is not an end in itself. punch up on the net, the traditions of the Essenian Jews, of which it is said Mary and Joseph belonged. Strict observers of the law).


If one would argue that there was no mention of that death in the Bible, then by extension, he did not die.If as some suggest, the bible can be relied upon for everything. (Nor is there a mention of Mary=s death, so by the same analysis, she did not die). But we know he did, and she did, so we have to dig deeper, within other sources. Hence our reliance on tradition.


(See also, Matt 12,47,48-50)@Someone told Him, your mother and your brothers are standing outside, asking to speak to you. This verse (47) is omitted in the original Codex Sinaiticus, and Codex Vaticanus. And older Bibles, ABehold, thy mother and brethren are standing outside,seeking thee(47) but he answered and said to him who told him, AWho is my mother and brethren?


And stretching forth his hand towards his disciples, he said,Behold, my mother and my brethren For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven, he is my brother and sister and mother.(1961 version) Luke 8: 19-21,Then his mother and brothers came to him, but were unable to join him because of the crowd. He was told,


Your mother and your brothers and sisters are standing outside, and they wish to see you. He said to them in reply, My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and act on it. Older Bible: Now his mother and brethren came to him, and they could not go to him because of the crowd. And it was told him, AThy mother and thy brethren are standing outside, wishing to see thee.


My mother and my brethren are they who hear the word of God and act upon it. Jesus felt spiritual relationship higher than carnal relationship. Q: If Mary had no children besides Jesus, how should we interpret biblical references to brothers and sisters of the Lord?


A: The Greek word for these "brothers and sisters" derives from adelphoi. Differences of opinion on how this term should be interpreted existed in the early Church until around 380 CE. Tertullian and Helvidius considered these "adelphoi" to be full blood brothers and sisters of Jesus.


Epiphanius and Origen considered them to be children of Joseph from a former marriage. Jerome opted for cousins of Jesus, children of another Mary, the wife of Clopas and sister of Mary of Nazareth, Jesus' Mother.


The New Testament says nothing of any children of Joseph and Mary, nor does the earliest tradition of the Church. Various episodes crucial for the understanding of the Holy Family as family are silent: the genealogies of Matthew and Luke; the family pilgrimage to Jerusalem in Lk 2 without mention of brothers and sisters; Mary's entrustment to John at Calvary in Jn 19 rather than to a son or daughter.


It is true that Catholic exegetes are influenced by the ancient doctrine of Mary's perpetual virginity and the singularity of the Christ event. For more details, see FAQ #18. The classic text on this question remains that of Joseph Blinzler. After a careful study of all the relevant texts, he offers this conclusion:


The so-called brothers and sisters of Jesus were male and female cousins. The relationship of Simon and Jude with Jesus occurs through their father Clopas and thus, these were of the lineage of David. Their mother's name is not known. The mother of the Lord's brothers, James and Joses, was a different Mary from the Lord's mother.


Either she or her husband were related to the family of Jesus, but the nature of the relationship cannot be ascertained (Joseph Blinzler, Die Bruder und Schwestern Jesu, 1967 quoted according to B. Buby in Mary of Galilee, Vol I of Mary in the New Testament series, 1994, p. 44)


Catholic exegesis focuses both on fact and meaning. The Christ event (fact) implies an important spiritual dimension (meaning): Who is this Savior?; What is redemption?; Who is His Mother?; and what is their relationship? All of these questions lead to interpretation of the fact(s). Interpretations may never contradict facts.


However, many facts are open to interpretation if not disproved. The spiritual dimension attempts to lead the reader from facts to significance. It is highly significant that Mary would be totally and exclusively dedicated to this only son, the savior of all. So, too, Paul used the phrase, not in the meaning of blood relations:


Mary In the Bible: "Behold the Mother Of God""A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars."Revelations 12:1-2


The official acts of the Fifth Ecumenical Council held at Constantinople in 553 refer to Mary as aeiparthenos (i.e. ever-virgin). For example, an anathema against the 'three chapters' condemns those who deny: These statements were not made in reference to a direct discussion of Mary's virginity.


Hence, some argue that this statement was not a dogmatic definition, even though it was issued within a document.


For Catholics, such definitions may be made by the episcopal college, in communion with its President, the Bishop of Rome, or by the Pope in virtue of his Presidency over the entire episcopal college. Such definitions must be derived, at least implicitly, from the revelation closed at the death of the Apostles. (If it is not dogma, if you don=t want to believe, then don't, but you might be condemned in certain circles.


But no more burning at the stake.)Following the example of Mary, the Church remains the virgin faithful to her spouse ... For the Church is the Spouse of Christ, as is clear from the Pauline Letters (cf. Eph 5:21-33; 2 Cor 11:2), and from the title found in John: "bride of the Lamb" (Rev 21:9).


If the Church as spouse "keeps the fidelity she has pledged to Christ", this fidelity, even though in the Apostle's teaching it has become an image of marriage (cf Eph 5:23-33), also has value as a model of total self-giving to God in celibacy "for the kingdom of heaven", in virginity consecrated to God (cf. Mt 19:11-12; 2 Cor 11:2). Precisely such virginity, after the example of the Virgin of Nazareth, is the source of a special spiritual fruitfulness: it is the source of motherhood in the Holy Spirit. (Mother of the Redeemer #43)


NOW DO ORTHODOX OR LATIN CHRISTIANS pray to Mary? Do they adore Mary? Though English words like 'worship' and 'adoration' are occasionally used to signify only veneration, honor or affection, they are generally understood to refer to that highest type of worship reserved for God alone. In this sense, Catholics do NOT adore or worship Mary, or any other created person or thing.


The Ecumenical Council held at Nicaea in 787 considered the issue of veneration which is not directed to the Divine persons in relation to sacred images. At this Council, the Church taught that the special type of worship called adoration may only be offered to God: Latria from the Greek term for enslavement.


v However, the Church also acknowledged that certain persons, though only creatures of God, are entitled to honor or veneration of a qualitatively lesser degree than the absolute allegiance owed to God. The Conciliar Fathers termed this lesser devotion: Dulia. Such veneration was proper for Mary and the Saints.


In view of Mary's important role in salvation history as Mother of Jesus, the Church recognized that Mary warranted a special degree of honor among the Saints. For this class of devotion, St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274) suggested the term hyperduliaQ: Why are candles lit in front of Mary's statue?


First, consider statues; then consider the significance of the candles burning near them. Statues have meaning only as "conductors;" they help in directing our attention to the one signified by the statue. A statue of Mary can be compared to such a "conductor." She leads to what is most important to her, and that is her Son Jesus Christ. All she does is put our petition before the Lord and plead on our behalf.


On the Cross, woman behold thy mother. Jesus was actually giving us to Mary, in our tradition, this is why we call her Our Blessed Mother.


v Referencing God the Father, and ending with Jesus, well, as aforementioned, so does the Rosary mantra. Once again, want answers to prayer (Christian) ,or Marian theology, go to www.alapadre .net or www.ChristusRex.org and your fears will be allayed.. Look at Mary with Africanized eyes, not Eurocentrically, and it will all become clear. Re: Mary-Co-Redemptrix


To the members of the Mystical body of Christ (that=s all Christendom combined, without the political divisions, and those not united philosophically to the Orthodox nor Latin roots). Not taking away from no one=s sacred beliefs (and respecting all), we fail to see (and that=s not hard, as we wear glasses) how the promulgation in anyway takes away from Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. For Mary always BRINGS AND LIFTS UP JESUS, not attenuates Him.


The promulgation of the doctrine (which, by the way does NOT have to be accepted by those not within the Latin or Orthodox side of the Church; just as a condition of rain does NOT have to be accepted by those getting wet) in no way diminishes the salvation of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. How can one take away from God? One cannot take away from the SOURCE of all things.


Now our discussion below shall be quite simplistic, for we need not repeat the machinations of our European brethren in examining things in too much detail (not seeing the trees because of the forest, so to speak).


Now Myryam Bat Joachim--called by us Blessed Virgin Mary, La Virgen, Mary, and other appellations-- herself has indicated her whole purpose is to bring Jesus (Yeshua-God Is Salvation), to uplift Jesus (God is Salvation), to PUSH Jesus, to teach JESUS.


(We place the definitions so that one may readily understand and break down in exegesis-which is a breaking open The Word--what is going on and meant).


We have said it before her title the Immaculate Heart of Mary, refers specifically to JESUS (who is the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Immaculate, Pure Heart, in the Essenian Judaic construct, and even many ancient peoplesBthe heart was the seat of one=s action, analogous loosely to Spirit


Heart, here =the Holy Spirit . Thus the Pure Spirit of Mary(the Immaculate Heart of Mary) is JESUS (God is salvation). (So now, when you pass by those churches, schools, colleges, and hospitals named Immaculate Heart, you=ll know they are talking about Jesus= place).


Mary brought forth the Word (Jesus-God is salvation) through her womb.(Thus the second part of the greeting Blessed is the fruit of thy womb...


Some have commented on the salutation of her cousin , El -iza- Beth (those who have studied the denomination of God=s name, El, know the significance), when she greeted Mary, REJOICE, MARY, FULL OF GRACE.


Now grace in that context means favor of God.


Blessed (NOT the real word, but an English translation of it, means grace here, as well). In Latin (established in the Church by the African chief priest St. Victor I the words were ABeati Maria... Bso we should not get too hung up on the word blessed.


Mary was (and is) the new Ark of the New Covenant. The New Covenant was (and is) Yeshua (God is Salvation, Jesus). Mary=s whole gig, her whole existence was to bring Jesus (God is Salvation).


Indeed those of the Orthodox and Latin traditions know her own words that she exclaimed in an allusion her MAGNIFICAT, My Soul (that spirit given by the Holy Spirit ), doth magnify the Lord.


She prepared for the job at a quite early age, being consecrated to the temple and living there from age 5 until 12 when she had to become betrothed. In the temple she repaired the curtains and drapes of the Holy of Holies (a precursor of Jesus= (God is Salvation) repairing all creation).


Now one must follow that way one has chosen, or upon one has set his or her own foot along the path, unless one makes a conscience determination to change that path. Let us Black folks not get caught up in Amy Christianity is better than your Christianity.


That is a decidedly European construct. Let=s not sink in that quicksand.


We have known Khemetians, and Buddhists, and followers of Al Islam more Christian than we.


(After all Christianity is not the title, but the doing. Loving god, and Loving one=s neighbor. Seems to me that Yeshua said all the law and (words) of the prophets were ensconced in these rubrics. I t ain=t about reciting, or knowing or even reading the word. IT IS ABOUT LIVING THE WORD).


Far too many of our brethren look upon the Orthodox and Latin Church root with European eyes of reformation-a condition the Africans (our African ancestors) WERE NOT A PART THEREOF, having been among the first converted.


As per Myrym=s own words: : " Children, today I invite you that each of you begin anew to love first God who saved and redeemed each of you, and then brothers and sisters in your vicinity. Without love, little children, you cannot grow in holiness and you cannot do good deeds.


Therefore, little children, pray without ceasing that God reveals His love to you. I have invited all of you to unite yourselves with me, and to love. Today also, I am with you and I invite you to discoverlove in your hearts and in your families.


For God to live in your hearts, you must love. (No we are NOT going to discuss the source. Those that know know. Those don't, won't believe anyway). MARY NEVER LIFTS UP HERSELF, ALWAYS GOD FIRST.


Seldom do you see Jesus in disputation, even when the Scribes and the Pharisees tried to Aset Him up@. His response (if given at all), was short, curt, to the point. Sometimes, He refused to respond.


Thus, as Christ-ians the exemplification of AThe Way, The Truth, and The LifeBsome say The Light@Bthat remains the gig of us all who so profess that path. Myrym Bat Joachim, who lived to about 69 or 70 (some say, 72)years of age did that all her life. She, as Ark of the New Covenant, helped bridge the Old Testament into the New. Hence, she is honored as being a Co-Redemptrix.


(Slightly different than the word Aredeemer@ as used here. Now that definition includes 1 a : to buy back : REPURCHASE b : to get or win back 2 : to free from what distresses or harms: as a : to free from captivity by payment of ransom b : to extricate from or help to overcome something detrimental c : to release from blame or debt : CLEAR d : to free from the consequences of sin 3 : to change for the better : REFORM 4 : REPAIR, RESTORE c : to make good : FULFILL 6 a : to atone for : EXPIATE b (1) : to offset the bad effect of (2) : to make worthwhile : RETRIEVE synonym see RESCUE The pre-eminent early black saint.


Her Rosary proves Scriptural.


Reading Scripture gives grace against temptations:.


Reflections that might be of Myrym Bt Jchm (aka Blessed Virgin Mary)


Test! Discern The Spirit (re-read the Epistle of St. James)


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