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Anonymous  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Date: 1998/05/05
Subject: Re: very sad: hungry scientologists
Deana Holmes  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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Wolf  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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Garry Scarff  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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StveJ  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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WONDERFULR  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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WONDERFULR  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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WONDERFULR  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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Baba ROM DOS  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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WONDERFULR  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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Roland  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: Roland <roland.rashleigh-be...@virgin.net>
Date: 1998/05/05
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Baba ROM DOS  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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Date: 1998/05/05
Subject: Re: very sad: hungry scientologists
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© Anti-Cult ®  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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Martin Hunt  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
Date: 1998/05/05
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Martin Hunt  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
Date: 1998/05/05
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Martin Hunt  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
Date: 1998/05/05
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Martin Hunt  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
Date: 1998/05/05
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Martin Hunt  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
Date: 1998/05/05
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Martin Hunt  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
Date: 1998/05/05
Subject: Re: very sad: hungry scientologists
Martin Hunt  
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From: mart...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
Date: 1998/05/05
Subject: Re: very sad: hungry scientologists

In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.980504221816.14069F-100...@molly.hh.org>,
The Momentary Delurker <del...@molly.hh.org> wrote:

>On 4 May 1998, Captain Nerd wrote:

>>        So, we've got an Asian wgert, possibly a German wgert, and
>>        a couple of North American/English wgerts, one who posts
>>        occasionally as "Rod Fletcher," and one who writes up the
>>        "justin" posts.  I wonder how long their shifts are?

Typically, 16-18 hours. Longer, if they're deemed to be "downstat",
ie, not keeping up with their ever-increasing production quotas.
As you can surmise, being "downstat" is a common thing for cult
members.

>I wonder if they are hungry?

Very likely they are. Especially if they're in a lower condition,
which, again, is a part of the miserable life inside Scientology.

It goes like this:

                    THE FIVE CARD SYSTEM

  In Sea Org Executive Directive 3490 International, 24 July 1986, a
new system of rewards and penalties was announced. This directive is
by the "Sea Organization Admiralty Officer," and is approved by the
Watchdog Committee:

    A brilliant system is being put into your org which heavily validates
  those staff `who are actively working on contributing to and achieving
  your org's purpose of 5.4Xed statistics [meaning increasing one's
  production by 5.4 times before Hubbard's birthdate].
    At the same time, this new system penalizes downstat staff who are
  not actively contributing....

  This system grants each member of the team "shares" in the group.

    There are five team shares and you, as a team member of the group,
  will be issued five special cards representing each share:
    1. Social Card (blue)
    2. Bonus Card (green)
    3. Allowance Card (orange)
    4. Berthing Card (yellow)
    5. Chow card (red)

  The social card entitles the staff member to "participate in any
social activity such as liberty, parties, sports events, special meals,
outings, and the like" (note that "liberty" is any day off).
  The bonus card entitles the staff member to a "bonus in addition to
the regular Sea Org allowance." The allowance card "entitles one to
receive regular Sea Org allowance" [approximately $7 to $12 per
week].
  The berthing card grants a space in which to berth (a bed).
  The chow card entitles the staff member to receive food at meal
times from the Org.
  Here's the good news:
  A staff member who "is pulling his weight and taking responsibility
for the org as a whole" is entitled to all five cards. He is also awarded
a "Silver Star." He is to wear this star at all times on his lapel.
  Here's the bad news:
  If the staff member is "being downstat or generally unproductive,
or uncooperative" he starts losing his cards one at a time starting with
the blue card.
  Lose one card and you lose your silver star.
  Loss of all cards means the person "goes on rice and beans (each
meal) while living in pig's berthing...." The directive goes on to
explain:

    The Sea Organization is the most ethical group this planet has ever
  known or will know. Star-high standards are enforced. It is with clean
  hands [good deeds and honestly that the Sea Org has maintained itself
  as the single most effective group of OTs in existence....
    LRH has entrusted the Sea Org to maintain the exact degree of ethics
  on this planet so that the wins and gains of his technology can be
  had by all....
    Those who have other fish to fry show up fast on the Team Share
  System and can be quickly handled.

- From Bent Corydon's book, _Messiah or Madman?_

Silver star, eh? I wonder if it has five points or six? Achtung,
RPFen!

My roomates and I were assigned to pig's berthing once after an
inspection. We were downstat, and had to be punished. Punishment
is a big thing in the cult; a lot of it is devoted to punishment
by various means from marks/signs, forced labour, begging to "rejoin"
the group, shaming, starvation, prison camps, etc.

--
Cogito, ergo sum.                http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~av282/
  "In South Africa, a Bantu's withholds read not on the needle alone
  but on the Tone Arm as well. The Tone Arm goes up as much as two
  divisions (3 to 5) just before you get off a bad withhold on one."
  - L. Ron Hubbard, E-Meter Essentials, page 23.


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© Anti-Cult ®  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: The.Galactic.Federat...@ThePentagon.com (© Anti-Cult ®)
Date: 1998/05/05
Subject: Re: very sad
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Rob Clark  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: x...@mindspring.com (Rob Clark)
Date: 1998/05/05
Subject: Re: very sad---URL unobtainable.
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Wolf  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: Wolf <wolft...@micron.net>
Date: 1998/05/05
Subject: Re: very sad: hungry scientologists
Discussion subject changed to "Poor, lying, hostile Martin Hunt" by Garry Scarff
Garry Scarff  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: Garry Scarff <sca...@mindspring.com>
Date: 1998/05/05
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Discussion subject changed to "very sad---URL unobtainable." by Paul
Paul  
  May 5 1998, 3:00 am
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Date: 1998/05/05
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