How To Catch A
Scammer...And Get Him Back...
(True story...with narratives! for
your entertainment only...)
Some ppl should never do business...
Dear insuranceagentonline@yahoo.com,
This message is in response to your ad on Yahoo! Classifieds.
Response from
AMY:
Hi. I'm very interested in renting this house. Just to clarify, is it $900 for
the entire house or are you renting per room? Also, utilities paid means
including gas, water, heat, and electricity? If possible, I would like to
schedule a meeting to see the house. You can reach me at (xxx) xxx-xxxx. Thank
you.
For more information,
view the full ad. Thank you for using Yahoo! Classifieds.
Tell me that
ad isn't too good to be true...
Pay some mind to my questions...my normal to-be-asked questions...
Also, why is an "insurance agent" answering real estate ads??
About a week later... (what a way to do business)
From: Insurance Agent
To: AMY
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:03:57 PM
Subject: RE: Your Listing on Yahoo! Realestate
Hello,
Thanks for your concern and i am very sorry for my late reply,We really
appreiciate you concern on this apartment(Internet Facilities,3 Bedrooms,1
sitting room,Dvd Player,Dinning Room,Fire Place,Jacuzzi,Garage,Water
Dispencer,Security,Plasma TV and Well Furnished),As you can see i am an
agent,This Apartment Belong to Reverend Osein Olakunle,He came to the States for
a Crusade and Gospel of the Lord and some other christianmatic Mission and went
back to Nigeria where he came from and then he registered this apartment with us
and told us to help him look for a renter who will take care of the Single
Family Apartment...We are looking for a Trust Worthy Person who can take very
good care of this apartment just like his own.....We want you to stand to your
words and promise us that you will do no arm to the House....I would have love
to See you but we have moved from New York to Bowling Green,Kentuckey and that
will be no problem if you really want the apartment...Here is the address of the
apartment (89 Reeve Place,Brooklyn) and we want you to go and veiw the apartment
and then come to mail me back f you really like the apartment and if it is a
place that you will Love to Live In,And i will like to hear from you as soon as
possible.....
I await your reply as soon as possble...I await your reply
Insurance Agent
Yes...a Reverend from Nigeria is gonna come to the States for a crusade in this day in age...live in Bay Ridge with white ppl...and leave the keys with a random agent who moved to Kentucky and tells you a different address than the one in the ad...okay...
This person
needs to learn how to type proper English, and learn the uses of the "period"
Those run-on sentences drove me nuts! I don't even know how to read it...make my
own sentences? or take a deep, deep breath?
...and who the hell signs off as Insurance Agent...you want your money...gimme a
name!
From:
AMY
To: Insurance Agent
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:13:03 PM
Subject: Re: Your Listing on Yahoo! Realestate
Hi. The address for the ad is listed as 7020 Louise Terrace, not 89 Reeve Place. Please clarify which one it is. If it is 7020 Louise Place, I would love to take a look.
As if that wasn't clear enough...
From: Insurance Agent
To: AMY
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:42:39 AM
Subject: Re: Your Listing on Yahoo! Realestate
89 Reeve Place,My apartment is the both you can have a look and tell me the one
that you really like there......
Regards...
So which one is it? Do I need to toss a dice? Idiot...
From:
AMY
To: Insurance Agent
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:13:42 AM
Subject: Re: Your Listing on Yahoo! Realestate
89 Reeve Place is too far from where I want to live.
When can I see the one on 7020 Louise Place? Do I get a key to get in?
Special
ed...of course you need a key to get in...but you never know with these ppl...
You might just be able to open the door and run into a bum in the hallway...
From: Insurance Agent
To: AMY
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:52:40 PM
Subject: URGENT REPLY
Hello Amy,
Thank you very much for the reply you have sent me,Anyway if thats want its ok
by Us,But the Keys are with Us here in Kentuckey so what we are going to do is
that you will have to go and check the surroundings and the Neighboorhood First
and then you come back and mail me about it,If you are really interested and it
is a place that you will Love to live in tell us so that we are going to know
what to do about shiippuing the Keys to you and other Neccesary things...
Regards.
Oh...it becomes "urgent reply" now...so that they can ship the keys and other necessary things...like what??? I never said I was gonna live there yet...do you just send random ppl keys to houses nowadays?
From:
AMY
To: Insurance Agent
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:58:27 PM
Subject: Re: URGENT REPLY
Hi. I have visited the house
and the surrounding neighborhood. I like what I see. There's some trash in the
garbage can though...nobody else is living there, right? It's only a one family
house? You can send the keys so I can take a look inside.
Just to clarify, the $900 a month rent includes heat, gas, electricity, and
water, as said in the listing, correct? Who do I send the monthly payments
to...you or the owner? If you have any questions of me, feel free to ask...and
if there is any other information that you wish to provide, please do so. Thank
you.
Yep...questions I first asked a zillion yrs ago...and that
any normal agent would be happy to answer...cuz it's the norm...
and of course you gotta look INSIDE before you move in don't you...shoot...
From: Insurance Agent
To: AMY
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:12:17 AM
Subject: URGENT REPLY
Thanks very much for your reply and also i can see your willingness in this rent
and how is work?Hope great!!! So as i shall be giving you our house,pls again
take care of the house so that i might be glad when coming to visit you.How are
you and you do reply so late,Anyway,Hope everything is fine with you.However,Thw
Owner told me that,if you are ready to rent the house now,then that will not be
a problem but we will advice you due to a responsible person like you, to be
able to afford the 1st month fee now( $900) and also we would like to send the
following document to you via the DHL to the address you send to me and the
tracking number will be sent to you so that you can possible occupy our
house,Pls once again,we are giving you this on trust and do not dissapoint us
and i promise you that,you will love the house.So i am with the below document
here with me and i will like to know whether you are ready for the payment of
this first month because i shall be coming by month end to check on you so that
i can know how you take care of our house for us and if it is okay by me,then i
shall be collecting the next month fee from you by myself.Here are the contents
of the document.
1) Entrance and the rooms Keys
2)Paper/Permanent house form(Containing your reference details)
3)The house documetary file.
4)Payment Receipt.
So pls get back to me today so that you can get in touch with the owner for
receiving the payment.I await your reply ASAP.
Insurance Agent
Do you sense
my willingness in this rent? LoL. He asks "how's work" like we know each
other...
I laughed when I saw "and you do reply so late"...MEEE late??? As if!! It was
the very next day...
I dunno how they do it in Nigeria...but it takes time to go places here...at
least I didn't wait a wk to respond like some ppl...
Didn't realize they were "giving" me their house...I thought it was the
owner's...not the agent's...
...what's a house documentary file...does the house have a history? That sounds
scary...
From:
AMY
To: Insurance Agent
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:01:35 AM
Subject: Re: URGENT REPLY
Good morning. Yes I am ready
with the first month's payment.
You can send the documents to this address: xxx
Thank you very much.
Of course
I'm ready with the first month's payment...it's $900...everyone should have that
much at least...
Did it slip their minds that I never looked inside the house?
From: Insurance Agent
To: AMY
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:00:24 PM
Subject: URGENT REPLY
hello amy,
Thank you for the reply you sent to me anyway here is the owners address where
you need to deposit the money to through money gram only before we send you all
the needed stuffs,you are very well welcome to this apartment,we have been given
the authourity to send the keys and other things to the shipper but we are
waiting for the payment to be sent to the owner....here is the payment address
for you to send the money to...
Receivers name : OSEIN OLAKUNLE
Address : 42 WESTERN AVE.
City : APAPA
State : LAGOS
Country : NIGERIA
23401
I await your reply for you to send me the following Informations after you have
sent the money so as for me to forwad it to Mr Osein Olakunle (LandLord) to
confirm the payment.
Reference#.....
Senders Name.....
Amount Sent.....
City,....
State......
Zipcode.....
Country,....
After the payment have been confirmed the Keys will be sent to you and you get
it in 24 Hrs......
N.B
The Money should be sent through Money Gram Only......
I await your soonest reply.......
Thank you
Insurance Agent
This is the
good part...
Who in their right mind would send money to another country...for rent...before
getting any confirmation about...well, anything...
It's like looking at a box and saying I will buy whatever is inside...here's my
money... o.O
...and what the hell is N.B...?
From:
AMY
To: Insurance Agent
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:32:00 PM
Subject: Re: URGENT REPLY
I still have a couple of questions that I would like to ask you. Can you give me your telephone number so that we can speak over the phone. It would be alot easier. Thank you.
The test...
Right now...we know nothing about this "agent" other than email address
From: Insurance Agent
To: AMY
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:40:17 AM
Subject: URGENT REPLY
I will rather like you to call the owner Mr Osein Olakunle on 0112348038184753...
Regards.
Yeah...okay...I'm gonna go call Nigeria now...you wait for me...
From: Insurance Agent
To: AMY
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:57:56 AM
Subject: URGENT REPLY
Hello Amy,
The Reverend Called me and told me that he tried to call you and the phone was
getting disconnected,He tried again but the Phone Was Ringing and No one Picked
it,He told me to tell you to go make the payment to his address so as for us to
send you all Neccesary things,The New Month is beginning Tomorrow thats why,So
that you will get the Keys tomorrow...The address has been sent to you already
so you are just to write it down and take to the Nearest Bank to you to make the
payment.......
I await your reply for you to send me the following Informations after you have
sent the money so as for me to forwad it to Mr Osein Olakunle (LandLord) to
confirm the payment.
Reference#.....
Senders Name.....
Amount Sent.....
City,....
State......
Zipcode.....
Country,....
N.B
The Money should be sent through Money Gram Only......
I await your soonest reply.......
Regards...
Insurance Agent
He's really
pushy about the payment isn't he...? Can someone say red flag?
Oh...and someone DID call from Nigeria...at like 3am...what the hell is wrong
with these ppl...
From: Osein Olakunle
To: AMY
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:13:49 AM
Subject: MY APARTMENT
Hello Amy,
May the Good God Continue to bless you and your Family,I got your message from
my Insurance Agent and i tried to call you but you are not picking the phone at
all,Anyway,Please i hope the agent has sent you the address to send the
money,Tomorrow is the start of another month thats why i am doing all this,I
want a lovely and Kind person that will take very good care of the
Apartment,Please i will want you to send the Money as soon as possible,So as to
tell the Courier Service to Send the Keys to you......May God Bless you and your
family.....
Regards..
Rev Osein
Dun dun
dun...the big boss finally comes out...probably the same person...look at that
ugly writing...lol...
Who goes from wanting a "lovely, kind person to take care of the place" to
"please send money asap"...??
From:
AMY
To: Osein Olakunle
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:35:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: MY APARTMENT
Hello Rev. Osein,
How is Nigeria? I do not feel comfortable sending money overseas. I would rather
wait for your agent to come visit and we exchange everything in person, that way
I know you will receive the money. Your agent is not answering any of my
questions thru email...questions that an agent should know. That is why I wanted
to speak to him over the phone. Maybe he would understand me better that way.
Please have him call me here in the states because it's harder to connect to
another country. I will wait for his call. Thank you.
Do you sense
my sarcasm? I was feeling very sarcastic today...
Oh...and last time I checked...PST meant pacific standard time...since when did
Nigeria use PST...? someone please answer me that...
From: Osein Olakunle
To: AMY
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:35:10 PM
Subject: URGENT REPLY
Hello Amy,
May the Good God Continue to bless you and your Family,I do not like people that
are talking like you,What do you mean that you dont feel comfortable,I know that
it is what you can do but you have something in mind that is very bad,Anyway
anything that you want to ask please ask me i own my house the agent is just an
agent,She doesnt even have the time to come because she is a very busy person
thats why assuming she have the time she would have come,so i am the one that
you should ask,This is how the procedure will be,If you send the first month
payment i will deduct some money for my flight and then i will come over
there,If you are no more interested then i will return your money to you and get
back my keys,I have sent you the address to send the money to,so like i said
send the money through Money Gram Only.....I am a Man of God so i cant do
anything with your money,I would rather dont make that attempt,So provide the
following informations like Senders Name,Reference#,City,State,Country and
Postal Code,With this We will get your full informations to ship all the Keys
and the documents to you...
Thank you and God Bless you..
Reverend Osein
May the good
god continue to bless you and your family...yeah right...I hate when ppl talk
like that...keep your religion to yourselves...
Look at the rev talking all nasty now...lol...cracks me up...
I can send money to anywhere in the world...yes I can...but I have something bad
in mind...? I think he's talking about himself here...
An agent is just an agent...that's correct...so what do we need them for if
they're busy doing other stuff?
...and after all this bashing...he still asks for the money...yeah...like I'm
gonna give you anything now...
From:
AMY
To: Osein Olakunle
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: URGENT REPLY
Hello. What do you mean you do not like people that are talking like me. I'm just trying to clarify what you want...and what you want right now doesn't make any sense. Normal procedures for renting a house is looking at it first before proceeding with payments and paperwork, not the other way around. It's not a bad feeling, that's just how it goes. I assume you would not buy something first without guaranteeing its quality, correct? If we should be asking you for any questions, there would be no need for an agent...especially one that moved away from the area of where the posting is located. And if you were a man of god you would not be pushing us to send payments and just check email without answering any questions over the phone. That's just bad business.
Ooo...that
was fun...did you hear my neck wriggling in that email? =D
Never try to insult me when I'm high off sarcasm...even god can't save you...
Who wants to place bets on whether this guy will dare respond...?