Not by Hand Charles Krauthammer
Friday, November 17, 2000
Equally as fraudulent, however, would be the "over-votes" potentially created by any waving, shuffling, rubbing or other movement which can easily cut the thread, dislodge the chad, and thereby produce two votes in the presidential column when only one vote was cast by the actual voter.
In view of the following, you should be as concerned as we have been all along that not only the two major party candidates may have lost votes during the recount, but 3rd party candidates, although I could find only one canvassing board which added votes to 3rd party total after the Florida Supreme Court said to count only the "undervotes" (Hagelin), may have lost votes if such chad dislodging occurred.
Miami-Dade certified its Nov. 8 vote totals - Texas Gov. George W. Bush, 289,533; Vice President Al Gore, 328,808 - with the secretary of state's office by the 5 p.m. Sunday deadline. Gore had gained six votes after a Nov. 8 hand count of 1 percent of Miami-Dade's 654,000 votes.
While we assume military and domestic absentee ballots were included in the report of the totals, the difference between the total votes reported for both candidates and the 654,000 votes we assume were cast, begs further investigation.
We are the only Net presence inquiring and searching, still, for the full and accurate report of how many registered voters actually showed up at the polls and cast a ballot, how many ballots were classified as rejected (overvotes and undervotes, or other), how many absentee ballots were received, and how many absentee ballots were rejected (overvotes, undervotes, illegal).
One chart shows the overvotes, while another chart shows the undervotes per county. We're still searching for all the data in order to make an informed analysis.
7 JUDGES TEACH US THE LAW OF THE LAND: A LEGAL VOTE MUST COME FROM A PROPERLY CAST BALLOT.
Neal Boortz Puts it thusly:
"The Court said that Florida law "cannot reasonably be thought to require the counting of improperly marked ballots." In short, an improperly marked ballot is not a legal vote, and only legal votes should be counted."
JUSTICE SOUTER QUESTIONS OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE CONCERNING EQUAL PROTECTION
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BOIES LIED TO U.S. SUPREME COURT WHAT A BULLY
Boies argued before the Supremes of the land Monday, Dec. 11, 2000 that there is nothing in the "record" that suggests there are such votes.
Boies was responding to the Supreme Justice's query about the Overvotes that some counties in Florida report have occured when voter writes in a name and punches out or marks the same name on his/her ballot.
Boies surely does know about such overvotes, because a pundit asked him Dec. 9 or 10 about why they were not considering the overvotes. Boies responded: We have not contested those.
Therein is the end of the line for the Gore-in-Cheat gain-just-one-more-vote-by-dimples gravy-train. All along Gore has maintained he wants every vote counted. Since we know from reports that there are potential legal votes in the overvotes where candidate marked and wrote in the same name on the ballot, we know for certain that there are potential legal votes among those votes. The clear intent of the voter on those overvote ballots wherein the voter poked or marked the ballot and also wrote in the same name can definitely be discerned. But Gore doesn't want those votes. Cause those votes come from a different pool and in counties wherein more people voted for Bush than for Gore-in-Defeat!
Board discovers that over-votes could present a problem
By Kathleen Chapman, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
kathleen_chapman@pbpost.com
Sunday, December 10, 2000
http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/sunday/news_11.html Board discovers that over-votes could present a problem December 10, 2000
Now we must also question just when these so-called undervotes in Miami-Dade were "disputed," according to the protest period, and according to the contest period.
We know the answer, but you find out on your own.
Remember the chronological order of things.
Recall when the protest of Miami-Dade election results occurred? Why a mere day after the election. And what was the problem being reported? Overvotes due to confusion by voters where? In Palm Beach County. Miami-Dade never had such a problem, but were brought into the protest process because Gore could choose 3 counties within which to conduct a sample survey to determine how great the discrepancies were from first and second MACHINE counts.
Thursday, Nov. 9: Voters file four more lawsuits in Palm Beach County requesting a revote. The Rev. Jesse Jackson leads a protest rally in West Palm Beach. Gore's campaign calls for a manual recount in Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade counties.
At least, that's what we've been led to believe. But keep in mind, http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4787-2001Jan30.html"only Palm Beach County had dramatic difference between first and second MACHINE recount. Dade initially voted not to conduct a manual recount of the whole entire county after the sample survey showed there was not a great difference between their own first and second machine counts.
Only after pressure from Gore-in-Cheat, some contend threats, did the canvassing board there determine to reverse itself and conduct the full manual recount. Checking dates. Very important to know when Dade began hand recount which included separation of undervotes by a special computer program.
We found the answer we needed... A week after the election.
Since this event occurred, we believe Dade board voted to start their hand recount of only the undervotes only after this ruling, which makes sense because in between and behind the scenes was an effort by the Gore-in-Cheat operatives to get the canvassing board to begin a recount, but because of time limitations imposed by Florida Supremes, to only look at the undervotes.
But we were misled and so we now know that Miami-Dade began separating undervotes via a special computer program before the new deadline ordered by the state Supreme Court.
But remember, the Hispanic areas and 51 percent Republican leaning Miami-Dade County areas were going to be left out when only the undervotes were going to be looked at under a microscope in that back room in private without public or press being present.
Wednesday, Nov. 22: Amid a mob scene, Miami-Dade County elections officials cancel their hand recount.
The Miami-Dade canvassing board abandoned its manual recount Nov. 22 after counting 140 of the county's 616 precincts.
So now we have this article to consider:
Palm Beach Post
What Broward did differently
From The Post, Dec. 1, 2000
By Noah Bierman
Miami-Dade certified its Nov. 8 vote totals - Texas Gov. George W. Bush, 289,533; Vice President Al Gore, 328,808 - with the secretary of state's office by the 5 p.m. Sunday deadline. Gore had gained six votes after a Nov. 8 hand count of 1 percent of Miami-Dade's 654,000 votes.
Sorting software in high demand
By Scott Hiaasen, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 10, 2000
...
What Browning wanted was a computer program designed to sort out under-votes from punch-card ballots. It was designed last month by Nolte's company, Election Resources Corp., a software contractor to elections supervisors in 12 Florida counties that use punch-card ballots.
The sorting program was first created to help Miami-Dade officials find the under-votes -- ballots that, for whatever reason, recorded no vote for president -- when Al Gore protested the election results there. But with the state Supreme Court's ruling, it suddenly, albeit briefly, became a hot commodity....
When in the timeframe of the protest period did the Miami-Dade officials request this software? Because, as this article points out, the software was just developed last month. Well people, last month was just November of this election year 2000.
Makes you think, doesn't it? Why was something that had never been done before, separating undervotes from the whole pool of ballots in Miami-Dade, now being done, when UNDERVOTES WERE NOT AT THIS TIME (before the contest period which didn't start until suit and testimony before Judge Sauls Nov. 26) BEING PROTESTED OR CONTESTED BY GORE-IN-CHEAT?
UNDERVOTES in Miami-Dade were not con-tested until the certification on November 26, 2000 because and importantly a contest of an election on the basis of illegal votes accepted, legal votes rejected cannot be done until the certification of the election.
Very crucial to this trail of treachery is that this software was developed specifically to help Miami-Dade separate "undervotes." The Miami-Dade undervotes were not contested until the certification of the election which occurred on Sunday November 26, 2000. Yet, the software to separate undervotes was in-place prior to November 26, 2000. If the latter point is true, software in place prior to Nov. 26 certification, then we have one analysis, people. A conspiracy. You don't start ordering software to separate Undervotes before and until a formal "contest" of "particular" ballots has occurred. In this case, Gore-in-Cheat Boies did not contest the undervotes until November 27, 2000. Those ballots along with the contested ballots of Palm Beach County were transported to the court of Judge Sauls. Sauls didn't order those "contested" ballots to be sent to his offices until November 29, 2000.
Thus and emphatically, if Miami-Dade had possession of such software to use to separate undervotes prior to November 26, 2000, then somebody knew that undervotes would become a subject of a legal contest dispute before November 26 the date that we can agree is important only because all "protest" period ballot hand re-counts were to be submitted to the Secretary of State.
If officials from Miami-Dade had such software ordered and in place before the contest of the election by Boies on November 27, then such officials knew those ballots, undervotes would be contested before they ACTUALLY WERE CONTESTED. So now we consider that on November 22, Republican observers and the press were refused access to proceedings of the Dade board. If software to separate undervotes was going to be used on Nov. 22, before a contest of undervotes was made on Nov. 27, officials were in colusion with Boies to separate those undervotes prior even to the time when a contest of such undervotes was made, which we now know was Nov. 27. That, folks, is a conspiracy.
And now our update Feb. 2, 2001 includes the info from washingtonpost.com series, so we are now confirmed correct in our analysis.
READ IT FOR YOURSELF...
The request for a hand count was made two days after the election on Nov. 7. The canvassing board took its time answering, waiting until Nov. 14 to consider the request. The canvassing board chairman, following Florida law, was a judge – Lawrence D. King. The elections supervisor, David Leahy, was the board's second member. Like his counterparts in Broward and Palm Beach, Leahy was an experienced bureaucrat who opposed hand counts almost on principle. Another county judge, Myriam Lehr, a registered independent married to a prominent Republican, completed the roster.
A week after Election Day, the board convened to weigh Gore's request for a sample count. It met on the 18th floor of the Stephen P. Clark Government Center in downtown Miami. Leahy complained that the state law was screwy. If the goal of the sample was to decide on the need for a recount, the test precincts should reflect the whole county. Instead, the complaining candidate got to hand-pick the sample precincts. But Leahy ultimately joined the others in approving the test.
The counting began. Unlike Broward and Palm Beach, Miami-Dade made no provision for observers to sit. Lawyers for Gore and Bush stood for hours, peering over the shoulders of the board members as they, in turn, peered at the ballots.
At least 16 times, the board could not agree. At day's end, the sample produced a net gain of six votes for Gore. The board took a vote on whether to proceed. Again Leahy voted no. King voted yes. "Although six votes does not sound like a lot," he said, "it was six people that otherwise may have been disenfranchised." Everyone turned to Lehr, who quietly voted no.
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 Deadlock: The Inside Story of America's Closest Election by the Political Staff of The Washington Post
TRUTH ON-LINE ONLY PLACE ON THE ENTIRE NET TO PRESENT A VALID OBSERVATION THAT CHAD FRAUD HAS OCCURRED UNDENIABLY DURING FLORIDA HAND RE-COUNTS
The proof of this valid observation occured on two certain dates:
Nov. 29, 2000 when Circuit Judge N. Saunders Sauls heard oral arguments from Bush attorney, Phil Beck, prior to the Judge ordering the Miami-Dade ballots transported to Leon County jurisdiction. Beck relayed reports by observers which contend that Miami-Dade numbers for undervotes increased in different precincts from the original automatic mandated machine recount.
Beck contended observers reported that canvassers initiated another separation of ballots to determine which were undervotes. However, observers complained when original numbers of undervotes in specified precincts began to increase. Beck requested the Judge order a halt to the activity so that the ballots would not suffer further handling. Sauls so ordered live on national television.
Our second certain date:
November 26, 2000 when Palm Beach County had not provided legal signature to its faxed submission to Katherine Harris and Sunday, Dec. 3, 2000 at which time it was reported by Joe Klock, attorney for Katherine Harris, before Leon Circuit Judge N. Sanders Sauls on nationwide TV, that Palm Beach County had still not signed and reported accurate return figures from the manual recount.
Dec. 1, 2000
What Broward did differently
Noah Bierman
Palm Beach Post
Secretary of State Katherine Harris rejected the partially hand-counted results that Palm Beach County faxed to her. Inconsistent ballot totals - possibly the result of speed and an all-night session - marred even those returns finished on time. Joseph Klock, an attorney representing Harris, described the report as an indecipherable "numerical potpourri."
What Broward did differentlyDec. 1, 2000
Quirks delay ballot tallying in Palm Beach County
By BRAD HAHN and NEIL SANTANIELLO
Sun-Sentinel.com Staff Writers
Web-posted: 10:43 p.m. Nov. 28, 2000
Nov. 28, 2000Quirks delay ballot tallying in Palm Beach County
We now also, as of the Bush v Gore case presented before the U.S. Supreme Court, have this article which notes that Palm Beach still has a discrepancy concerning how many votes were garnered as a net for Al Gore!
Rumors fly on fate of our ballots
Palm Beach Post Staff Reports
Monday, December 11, 2000
http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/monday/news_9.html
The U.S. Supreme Court's suspension of Florida's statewide presidential vote recounts also has halted an explanation of discrepancies in Palm Beach County's vote tallies.
The Florida Supreme Court in its ruling Friday said Al Gore had gained 215 votes in Palm Beach County's recount, but Elections Supervisor Theresa LePore said revised calculations showed Gore had only picked up 174 votes -- a difference of 41 votes.
County attorneys were supposed to file explanations with the Leon County Circuit Court by noon Sunday, but they did not because of the U.S. Supreme Court's stay.
Monday, December 11, 2000 Palm Beach Post
While we now have major discrepancies from Post study:
Voters in black precincts in the Glades had their ballots disqualified three times more than the average of Palm Beach County.
Overall, nearly 7 percent of the 462,657 ballots cast countywide were thrown out.
Palm Beach Post Nov. 18, 2000 William Cooper Jr. and Alexandra Clifton
Of 462,657 ballots cast countywide
19,120 overvotes PBC
In Palm Beach County, 19,120 people invalidated their votes for president by punching more than one hole.
Frank Cerabinohttp://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/news/gore_9.html
SO NOW WE CAN PIECE TOGETHER THE PUZZLE
When counting began two weeks ago, Palm Beach County had more potentially questionable ballots than Broward did. Specifically, 10,311 of its 462,644 ballots were considered under-votes, cases in which machines did not register a vote for any of the presidential candidates.
LEADS US TO BE PUZZLED BY DIFFERENT NUMBERS FOR TOTAL AMOUNT OF BALLOTS CAST COUNTY WIDE 462,657 ballots vs 462,644 ballots
BUT WE TALLY THE TOTAL UNDER AND OVER VOTES FOR Palm Beach County
19,120 overvotes
10,311 under-votes
29,431 invalidated ballots over and under votes! Let's see if we can ever find what was reported?
AND WE FIND 28,036 OVERVOTES AND UNDERVOTES THROWN OUT. GEE THAT'S LESS THAN 29,431 OOPS SOMEBODY GOOFED IN PALM BEACH COUNTY! AS WE HAVE NOW PROVEN!
"Nearly half of the 28,036 ballots that Palm Beach County tossed out in the presidential election came from areas of the county that are mostly black or elderly, a Palm Beach Post computer analysis shows.
Those ballots were thrown out because the voter either didn't vote for president or voted for two presidential candidates."
I don't know about you, but I vote for somebody checking the analysis of the Palm Beach Post which relies on different totals within less than two weeks of reporting!!
OVERVOTES AND UNDERVOTES THROWN OUT ARE DIFFERENT TOTALS FROM ONE REPORT TO ANOTHER REPORT too:
28,036 vs 29,431
YET, WE are to believe the Post analysis based on different numbers reported??
DEMS JUST A TAD BIT LATE FEARING CHADS CAN FALL OUT IN DUVALL COUNTY AND SUGGEST FALLING CHAD WILL INVALIDATE GORE VOTES YEP, DO A DOUBLE READ ON THIS ONE
Florida's Duval County won't start recounts till Sunday
December 9, 2000
Web posted at: 12:20 p.m. EST (1720 GMT) http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/09/duval.county/index.html
...On Saturday, the Duval County board discussed counting procedures and heard Bush campaign attorney Reynold Hoover and Gore campaign attorney Ben Kuhne disagree sharply on which punch-card ballots should be considered legitimate.
At issue is the validity of ballots with "pregnant" or "hanging" chads -- pieces of paper that result when holes are not completely punched through. Kuhne, representing the Gore campaign, said they should be included as votes, while Hoover, representing the Bush campaign, disagreed.
"If there is an agreement on most standards, we'd certainly like to see that," said Duval County Canvassing Board Chairman John Stafford.
...In its original machine count, Duval County identified 4,967 undervotes and about 22,000 ballots that contained two or more votes for president, known as "overvotes."
Already, some Democratic observers have objected to running all of the county's votes through a machine to sort them. They fear some of the ballots once counted as undervotes may be recognized by the computer program as overvotes because chad may have been dislodged.
Republicans are optimistic that the hand recount in Duval County will produce a net gain for George W. Bush. Democrats believe the roughly 5,000 votes in question will break evenly for Gore and Bush.
In Duval County's initial election night results, Bush won 58 percent of the vote, while Gore won 41 percent. However, after a machine recount, 200 new votes were identified and Gore gained 168 votes.
No Controlling Legal Authority Is Counting or Auditing Loose Chads
County Officials Unconcerned With Falling Chads
By Timothy P. Carney
In Broward County, Republicans asked a deputy from the county sheriff’s office to collect and count the fallen chads in the counting rooms. On Wednesday, November 15, the deputy counted 78 chads and sealed them in an evidence envelope. The next day, the deputies from the sheriff’s office refused to collect the chads. Then, because they did not want the evidence destroyed, the Republicans themselves gathered up the fallen chads–finding 283 ...
In Palm Beach, observer Collister Johnson claims in a sworn statement that he personally counted over 460 chads on the floor after the county’s second automated recount on November 12....
CNN 2:30 PM Dec. 11, 2000 Greta says she listened and she learned and she knew that a judicial review was going to happen under the contest period.
But that didn't happen Greta, a judicial review was not going to happen in any Florida county other than for those 9,000 undervotes Gore in Cheat wanted to contest. So Greta, can it and your candidate!
Recall these events and those numbers of ballots which are portrayed as the amount of voters casting a vote on election day:
Sunday, Nov. 12: The Palm Beach County Elections Canvassing Board orders a hand recount of 462,657 ballots.
Tuesday, Nov. 14: The Palm Beach County canvassing board submits its results but says it will amend them after a hand recount.
Friday, Nov. 17: Tallahassee judge rules Harris can reject recounts in three counties.
Saturday, Nov. 18: Bush wins the overseas absentee ballot count by 1,380 votes to Gore's 750. Republicans complain about the disqualification of 1,420 ballots.
Tuesday, Nov. 21: The state Supreme Court says Harris must accept results of recounts until 5 p.m. Nov. 26, or no later than 9 a.m. Nov. 27.
Sunday, Nov. 26: The Palm Beach County canvassing board fails to meet deadline, submits partial results. Harris rejects Palm Beach County's recount totals because they are incomplete. She certifies Bush the winner by 537 votes.
Wednesday, Nov. 29: A Tallahassee judge orders 1.1 million ballots from Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties sent to the capital by Friday
Thursday, Nov. 30: Palm Beach County's 462,644 ballots are shipped in a rental truck to the Leon County Courthouse in Tallahassee.
Saturday, Dec. 2: In a Florida Supreme Court hearing in Tallahassee, Leon Circuit Judge N. Sanders Sauls heard from Democrats who used an Ivy League statistician and a live voting demonstration to make their point that 14,000 disputed ballots in Palm Beach and Broward counties need recounting. Republicans called Palm Beach County elections board member Judge Charles Burton to the stand, seeking to quash the Democratic assertion that disputed ballots were meant for Gore.
Sunday, Dec. 3: Both sides wrapped up their cases before Leon Circuit Judge N. Sanders Sauls on the Gore campaign's contest of the Florida election results.
Palm Beach County opens contested ballots
11/28/00- Updated 06:50 PM ET
The county is scrambling to complete the necessary audit of the manual recount before it releases the final results. Late Monday, spokeswoman Denise Cote said the manual count did not match up with the last machine count but refused to discuss details....
the manual count did not match up with the last machine count...
Those counties would come up with not only different numbers for undervotes, but new totals for all races. And there's a risk that some ballots would be double-counted, notes Bush lawyer Phil Beck....
"This is very disturbing," said Ken Lisaius," a spokesman for Bush's legal team in Tallahassee, Fla
"These ballots have been through the ringer," he said. "You saw what happened in Broward County. They found chad on the floor and on the tables. They came from somewhere. They didn't magically appear. They came out of those ballots."
"So there's some real questions about the integrity of those ballots," Lisaius said...
SPECIFICALLY, the fraud considered herein at Truth On-Line is this:
Ballots which in the past were historically and by precedent rejected, invalidated, or disqalified for having non-votes in a column are now being reviewed under a standardless system. Keep in mind, there was no proven machine breakdowns in the TABULATING PROCESS. The tabulating machine is different than the votomatic machine. The tablating machine does not know whether a candidate is Republican, Democrat, or Independent, and functions only as a methodology to record those votes in a manner consistent with the laws governing use of the equipment. The votomatic machines were not "proven" in Judge Sauls court, either, however, to be malfunctioning.
We are fortunate to now have this article. Our observations were noted from actually viewing the testimony before Judge Sauls. We've said all along we need to obtain the actual court transcripts, one day, if things progress, we will.
Human Events Includes a Partial Transcript Direct Examination
This theory hypothesized several possible mishaps. The first was that too many chads had built up in the machines–but only below the column for presidential choices–thus preventing people from pushing through their chads. This hypothesis could have been tested simply by unsealing the suspect voter machines in court to see if they were indeed packed with chads–only under the presidential choices.
Had the Florida legislature addressed statewide what constitutes a legal vote before this election, at the same time they tried to address rampant election fraud, which would include counting dimpled chads on machine-rejected undervotes and overvotes and undervotes found even with other voting methods, we would not be in this position. The Florida legislature did not address this in any of the previous statutes.
Now we have this guy telling us dimples and pregnant chads never heard of before! Replay to Texas law which refers to "indentation." Confusing, right.
He says his own machines don't produce any dimpled chad as they perforate the thousands of ballot cards used by the Florida counties and others around the country.
...Nolte says virtually all undervotes are not the result of error, but of voter apathy.
"He may find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't vote for president, but they didn't," he said.
"And the same situation holds true whether this is optical-scan paper ballots, or whether it's punch-card ballots -- or even if it's direct-recording electronic ballots," he said. "Those are people who just don't vote for everything."
Indeed, WorldNetDaily found that undervote rates in several Florida counties that use pencil-marked paper ballots, which are read by optical-scanners, were as high as or higher than rates in Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties, which use the much-maligned punch-card ballots.
Of course, as a vendor with contracts in several states, Nolte has a financial interest in downplaying any flaws in his system.
But he says tests prove his system read ballots without a hitch...
In fact, Palm Beach Supervisor of Elections Theresa LePore, a Democrat, was happy with the results, according to the chairman of the county's canvassing board.
"Her opinion was (that) the counting equipment was working fine," Palm Beach Judge Charles Burton testified Saturday in a Tallahassee, Fla., circuit court hearing on Gore's petition for a hand recount.
Under Florida law, hand recounts require evidence of machine malfunction or voter fraud. Voter error is not an automatic reason to trigger the statute.
THOSE TABULATING MACHINES, DIMPLES, AND PERCENTAGES OF UNDERVOTES IN WHICH COUNTIES
WorldNetDaily's own survey of counties that use optical-scan balloting found that several had undervote rates as high or higher than Palm Beach County (2.2 percent), Miami-Dade County (1.6 percent) or Broward County (1.1 percent), which also uses the punch-card ballot and has already manually recounted its ballots at Gore's urging...
DECEMBER 4Punch-card vendor refutes Gore claims
TRUTH ON-LINE ONLY ONE TO QUESTION CHAD FRAUD PROBABILITY
We have been the only ones anywhere on the entire Net to point out emphatically and undeniably:
During the hand re-count process, chads on previously machine tallied ballots fell out.
In any court of law, altered evidence would be rejected IMMEDIATELY.
OK WE WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES WHO SAID THE BALLOTS WERE ALTERED, BUT WE SAID IT SOONER...
Human Events Editor Terence P. Jeffrey was invited to appear on MSNBC’s "Hardball with Chris Matthews."
On Friday, November 17
... Now, look at this picture. [Holds up photo clipped from the Washington Times.] This is an Associated Press picture. The only newspaper I saw it published in today was the Washington Times. What it shows is a Broward County deputy sheriff carefully counting 78 ballot chads that two days ago ended up on the floor of the counting room in Broward County. Those are 78 ballots that we know absolutely for a cold-hard fact were altered, either inadvertently or purposefully, by the ballot counters in Broward County."
Dershowitz: "How were they altered?"
Jeffrey: "We don’t know."
Matthews: "Well, how were they altered negatively? Give me the impact of what that means?"
Peggy Noonan: "It means that the ballot got changed."
Matthews: "How did it get changed?"
Dershowitz: "How did it get changed?"
Noonan: "All of a sudden the chads are on the floor. . . . Now, it’s a vote."
NOT EVEN HARDBALL'S MATTHEWS CATCHES THE FACT THAT THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN ALTERED. WE WOULD!
Consider the one-man one-vote system of constitutional law in this way:
It may be, that on a ballot which once had one clear vote for Ralph Nader, with the chad clearly punched through, the machine recount process and the hand recounting process dislodged another chad per happenstance in the presidential column.
When that ballot made its way to the canvassing board then reviewing all ballots of the county per law, that ballot would be tallied, not as a vote for Ralph Nader, but rather, as an over-vote, wherein two choices for president were made.
The vote for Nader would now be invalidated. That is negating the true will of the people.
Therein is the inherent fraud of the entire standardless hand re-tallying process.
In addition, as Phil Beck pointed out, due to the Miami-Dade situation of having different and increased numbers for undervotes, it is a likely probability that some votes would have been a vote already tallied and then, during a manual recount, actually counted twice.
An election on a certain date is a point in time. Variations after that date alter the election-time, and therefore, alter the election. We are not saying that Florida law does not apply for a protest to occur and a contest to occur. Keep in mind that these are two different legalities which have different evidenciary processes to show different LEVELS of irregularity, or irregularities.
The Florida legislature also wanted the "intent" of the voter to be determined, but there are contingencies concerning the circumstances of arriving at the point to even begin to consider manually reviewing ballots. Those include, charges of election fraud and tampering, and machine malfunction.
The first machine count across the state of Florida produced a pool of tallied ballots which contained a difference between the major party candidates of less than half of one percent. That outcome initiated a mandated automatic recount across the entire state.
In Florida law, there has never been a mandate to hand re-count to verify the second machine re-count.
Candidates have undergone protest and contest periods in the past elections particularly because fraud was charged to have occurred, particularly in the area of absentee ballots.
This is a crucial distinction which nobody else on the Net is addressing, except for Truth On-Line.
Florida law was changed by the state legislature in 1999. Pay particular attention to reviewing those sections which pertain to the protest period and those which pertain to the contest period. In the contest period, we agree that ballots can be contested, of that there is no doubt. However, which ballots and from what pool of original ballots remains the over-riding constitutional question during a Federal presidential election.
An entire statewide election in Florida has never been subject to a contest period before according to the new 1999 laws wherein undervotes and overvotes were ever counted.
In addition, the Florida Law does address what is to happen after a canvassing board does a review of a sample 1 percent of the county. The manual recount must then be applied to all of the ballots in the county, not just a manual recount of a segregated pool of ballots. It would follow, that in a statewide election, for a contest, a manual recount must include all of the ballots cast, not merely a segregated pool which might contain legal votes. The entire pool must be reviewed to determine wherein there are ANY AND ALL LEGAL VOTES.
I cannot believe as I am listening to the U.S. Supreme Court interchange with Ted Olson that no one has yet brought out that there may be OTHER VALID TRUE LEGAL VOTES which will NEVER be assessed because the ballots we are considering are only those WHICH WERE CAST USING A PUNCH-HOLE VOTING DEVICE! Nice that there is an intent of the voter standard to apply to ballots which are contested, but that standard must be applied to all of the state's cast ballots, not just a segregated amount that for political purposes Gore wants considered! Because, as has been admitted by Boies, in reply to a question from one of these pundits, the Boies legal team is not contesting OVERVOTES. The Gore team only wants those ballots looked at which it considers as UNDERVOTES because those are the only ones the CANDIDATE has contested!
It is important for all of us to continue to keep our attention focused on the difference in numbers that have never ever been reported pertaining to how many voters actually voted in any county, with the exception of Nassau County.
Nassau County is the only Florida County which revealed that it knows precisely how many voters actually voted in Nassau County on election day. When the automatic mandated recount process ended Nov 8, 2000, in Nassau County the superviser of elections determined only days later that there were 215 ballots that had not been recounted during the automatic mandated recount.
Be apprised only here, nowhere else, that the actual numbers for how many voters actually voted on election day have not been presented by the media for any Florida county.
In addition, we still don't have accurate numbers for how many disqualified ballots there were, which would include undervotes and overvotes, and some of these Florida canvassing boards, consider non-votes as well. Some of these non-votes are ABSOLUTELY ABLE TO BE DETERMINED, because of the type of ballot and counting methodology used.
How ludicrous to keep handling these ballots by hand and reinserting in machines and re-handling - cause more nicks and bumps, more chads falling out - the evidence is no longer in its original condition.
That's proven by the events actions of the canvassing board just prior to Miami-Dade shipping all their ballots to Tallahassee, the undervotes somehow grew.
Note, we'll probably never know what the increase in overvotes has been from the mandated and automatic machine recount and the hand re-counts that were initiated by the first time the Florida Supremes extended the deadlines.
We'll probably never know which 3rd party candidates votes were invalidated during the hand re-counts. Won't it be interesting to find out that the amount of overvotes which once consisted of some 19,500 in Palm Beach County increased. Won't it be interesting to find out years after this mess that most of those over-votes consisted of a chad combination of Bush/Buchanan, and/or any other combination which includes Bush and a 3rd Party candidate. Won't it be interesting to find out that of the so-called original 19,500 overvotes, the combination of Gore/Buchanan is far less than the combinations for Bush/3rd Party.
And we will probably never have an accurate number for all Florida counties concerning how many voters actually voted in those counties, except for Nassau County, on election day.
We will probably never know because all that is reported is how many new votes-by-dimples Gore has obtained. We at least know from reports prior to the second machine recount that appoximately 6 million voters voted in Florida. Note, that's always said to be "approximately," so when faced with the Broward County situation, and the potential for counting the usually disqualified "undervotes," as new votes gained for Gore-in-Cheat, we will never know how many people voted once, but possibly had their one-vote counted twice.
Published Wednesday, December 13, 2000, in the Miami Herald
Affidavit filed against counting
Religious figure levels charges of misconduct
BY CAROL MARBIN MILLER
A nationally known Christian conservative activist filed a sworn statement in Broward Circuit Court on Tuesday, declaring that ``misconduct'' and ``corruption'' in Broward County's presidential recount placed her ``at risk of being disenfranchised...''
Janet Folger, a broadcast commentator and religious activist affiliated with the Fort Lauderdale-based Center for Reclaiming America, filed a sworn affidavit challenging the county canvassing board's manual recount of disputed presidential ballots. ...
Folger, who said she was a Republican observer for much of the two-week recount, said that an earlier ``most accurate'' mechanical count of 587,928 Broward ballots should be certified by the state.
``The misconduct, corruption and negligent counting procedures of the manual recount of the ballots cast in Broward County are sufficient to change or place in doubt the results of the November 7, 2000 election,'' the affidavit states.
Mitch Ceasar, chairman of the Broward Democratic Party, denied any improper behavior by Democratic canvassers. ``Obviously, she saw things no one else in the entire world saw,'' Ceasar said Tuesday.
On Nov. 7, Gore beat Bush by 209,238 votes in Broward County. The 11-day reexamination of more than 587,000 ballots that ended Nov. 25 netted Gore an additional 567 votes...
We've been the only ones questioning why these numbers have changed from first machine count to second machine count in some counties, but not in other counties. Somebody should do a study of that.
For those of us who remain inquisitive, we need to know exactly how many absentee ballots were accepted and rejected, how many military ballots were accepted and rejected, and how many machine tallies there were and what those differences were, if any.
Therein lies the Trail of Treachery which Truth On-Line is intent on following as best as possible.
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Published Monday, December 11, 2000
Miami Herald
Legal vote definition ignites debate
BY JAY WEAVER
jweaver@herald.com
The seeming lack of a uniform standard for handling disputed ballots across Florida has become a paramount legal issue for the U.S. Supreme Court.
At the core of the controversy is a Florida law that says a legal vote is any ballot from which the voter's intent can be discerned. But state courts for years have been unwilling to say explicitly what that means.
And that has drawn the attention of the U.S. Supreme Court majority whose view may have been reflected in an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia. He questioned whether presidential ballots that cannot be read by machine are legal votes and whether counting them might give the presidency to the wrong candidate.
More important, he implied that the standards for discerning voter intent vary so widely from county to county that they violate the equal protection clause of the U.S. Constitution.
What constitutes a legal vote, a ballot that is not punched is not a legal vote! Clear intent determined by a damaged ballot, and there are very clear directions as to what to do to determine the intent...
Very important to our own assessements.
Hogan Case 4th District Court of Appeal cited by Joe Klock
TRAIL OF TREACHERY EXCLUSIVE ANALYSIS
Helped along on our journey are these fine articles from the Palm Beach Post
'84 race called punch ballots into question
By Scott McCabe, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 10, 2000
http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/sunday/news_18.html
Before the Year of the Chad, we had the "60-40 syndrome."
Sixteen years ago, before Al Gore or George W. Bush carried White House hopes, before the dimpled chads and butterfly ballots bogged the presidential election process, candidates challenged the validity of the computer punch-card system that's under heavy scrutiny today.
... And, to add to the fire of chad-related problems, consider that in 1988, a researcher working on behalf of the Markle foundation recommended the elimination of pre-scored punch card ballots in a report called Accuracy, Integrity and Security in Computerized Vote-Tallying.
report called Accuracy, Integrity and Security in Computerized Vote-Tallying.msnbc.com
PEOPLE, WE STILL DO NOT HAVE CORRECT FACTS CONCERNING TYPES OF VOTING MACHINES WHICH ALLEGEDLY CAUSE NON-VOTES ONLY IN THE PRESIDENTIAL COLUMN BECAUSE OF WEAR AND TEAR! EVEN AFTER TEXTIMONY OF DEC. 2, 2000 BEFORE JUDGE SANDERS SAUL WE'RE STILL NOT GIVEN ABSOLUTE FACTS ABOUT MACHINES AS WERE OBSERVED TO BE USED ON THE DAY OF THE ELECTION.
We saw two machines finally brought into the courtroom, alleged to be in use in Palm Beach County:
Votomatic
Pollstar
Now is anyone else concerned that the guy who did testify, Kimball Brace, president of Election Data Services, had to admit that he's relying only on his imagination to determine the basis of his testimony?!!
THE CLAIM IS THAT THE OLDER TYPES OF PUNCH-CARD MACHINES CAUSE THESE SITUATIONS OF UNDERVOTES.
NewsMax.com
Monday, Nov. 27, 2000 8:29 PM EST
Palm Beach Elections Chief Is Big Gore Backer
...
Winchester claimed that the voting machines have been faulty for some time. (Why this was not an issue for her when she was in office is not clear.)
Because most people vote for the office of president first, Winchester said that area of the ballot becomes prone to problems, one of which is that the hardening of plastic doesn't allow individuals to punch through the ballot.
HOWEVER, ONE OF THE FEW INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS LEFT IN THE COUNTRY FOUND THAT THE MACHINES USED IN PALM BEACH COUNTY WERE NEWER MACHINES!! AND THESE MACHINES HAD MORE UNDERVOTES
THAT INFORMTION UNDERCUTS THE DEMOCRAT STATEMENTS THAT OLDER MACHINES WERE IN USE IN PREDOMINATELY "POORER" "LOW-INCOME" PRECINCTS.
DATA PUNCH USER COUNTIES HAD MORE UNDERVOTES
Newer machines had more 'under-votes'
By Marc Caputo, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
marc_caputo@pbpost.com
Tuesday, November 28, 2000
Voters who used the newest machines in Palm Beach County were three times more likely to have a problem making their votes count in the race for president.
About one-third of the votes cast Nov. 7 were on machines made by Data Punch. But they accounted for nearly half of the so-called "under-votes," where no vote for president was registered, an analysis by The Palm Beach Post shows.
Reproduction Newer machines had more 'under-votes'
BUT WAIT GO GET TRANSCRIPT OF LEON COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT TESTIMONY BEFORE JUDGE SANDERS SAUL BECAUSE PEOPLE, NOBODY HAS YET TOLD US HOW LONG THESE MACHINES HAVE BEEN AROUND IN SUNNY FLORIDA.
Nobody except these reporters:
Voting-machine errors discovered 4 years ago
By George Bennett and Marc Caputo,
Palm Beach Post Staff Writers
Friday, December 8, 2000
http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/friday/news_3.html
Actually, it happened four years ago.
Former Elections Supervisor Jackie Winchester said in a memo to state elections officials after the 1996 presidential election that the county had registered an unusual number of under-votes in 10 precincts that used new Data Punch machines.
A Palm Beach Post analysis last month found that precincts using Data Punch machines in this election had a 4.4 percent under-vote rate, compared with a 1.5 percent rate on older, more expensive Votomatic machines used elsewhere in the county. The Data Punch machines accounted for nearly half of all 10,311 under-votes in this year's election.
An under-vote is recorded when a voter skips a race or when the perforated "chad" next to a candidate's name isn't detached thoroughly enough to be read by a tabulating machine. Under-votes and attempts to count them have become key issues in Florida's close presidential race.
Winchester's memo doesn't name the 10 precincts, but she said Thursday she believed they were the precincts with the highest number of under-votes that year. Those precincts had a 16 percent under-vote rate in 1996.
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Reproduction Voting-machine errors discovered 4 years ago
Winchester suspects, doesn't prove, and in fact was not among the witnesses who testified before Judge Sauls under oath. Meaning: no proof exists that any Palm Beach County machines malfunctioned, power outage only occurred in one county, Volusia.
Exclusive: Voter Error Not Limited to Democrat Counties
Stephan Archer
Saturday, Dec. 2, 2000 Saturday, Dec. 2, 2000 newsmax.com
SEARCH FOR TRUTH...
Ballot Convoy? Part of an absurd Dem / Repub Criminal Process.
November 28, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire
Citizens for a Fair Vote Count - Go to: http://www.votefraud.org
Network America - go to http://www.networkamerica.org
Ballots that look like they've been through World War II? PINK (!!!) ballots used to replaced "destroyed" ballots - punched by election officials instead of voters - WHAT OBVIOUS FRAUD! First of all, there is no reason in the world that these ballots are beat up at all. Remember MSNBC's Forrest Sawyer's testimony on national TV --- holding up a punch card ballot - that he had carried one around for four or five days beating it all up, and it was in solid condition without any chad "even thinking" about falling out, according to Sawyer. MSNBC's Brian Williams testified in so many words to the same reality.
Klayman's initiative has underscored our Network America contention that the ballots now in play are not the same ballots punched by the voters. While it is now known that high speed key punch machines could recreate REPLACEMENT BALLOTS for an entire county in a few hours - it is still not clear why the ballots in play are so darn fragile and beat up. Nor does any of the "lamestream" press - (to borrow a phrase from Honest Election Crusader Grant Noble of Illinois) - have the least bit of curiosity as to WHY the ballots are in such condition.
The key thing to keep in mind is this: everywhere and always since 1973, EVERY Republican local party and EVERY Democratic local party have fought like hades to keep ALL regular voters and citizens from getting anywhere near any ballots. Thus, Americans have been treated like slaves, serfs, third world victims, and morons by our RULERS in these two major party establishments.
The whole current "election" system is so fraught with officially sanctioned criminality that it is impossible to know how many levels of fraud, vote distortion, computer rigging and ballot switching - have taken place.
WHENEVER YOU REMOVE THE BALLOTS FROM THE SIGHT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRECINCT PEOPLE before they are publicly counted with the results posted - the chain of evidence is broken! That's why Canada has a law that any ballots taken out of the public view of the neighborhood election officials are thereby invalidated.
Which brings us back to this absurd convoy. Do you realize that by the correct Canadian standard (once the American standard) of keeping an election TRANSPARENT to public view, of always keeping the ballots in public view so that criminals could not switch them - means that once these hundreds of thousands of ballots were loaded into the rented Rider truck and locked - that every one of them would thereby be disqualified in Canada and in the old USA? And that's as it should be.
I want to close this e-wire by emphasizing that for 27 years, once a computerized or machine system was installed in a county -- EVERY local county Republican and Democratic party in such counties has been protecting these crooked computerized and machine voting systems (which take the ballots, if any, out of public view as a MATTER OF POLICY!); EVERY STATE REPUBLICAN and DEMOCRATIC Party, all the Secretaries of State, and the National Committees of both these major parties have protected the easily rigged, NON-TRANSPARENT vote "counting" systems. Where applicable, EVERY ONE of these entities has protected CHAD, has tweezed chad, and on and on and on.
The two major parties are equally guilty. Neither side, in my judgement, cares a whit who actually won the election. Both sides are cutting deals and trying to file clever lawsuits that will strong arm themselves into the White House.
In my judgement, Jim Condit Jr., Director, Citizens for a Fair Vote Count
Bush actually beat the insufferable Gore by 10 points or more before the contrived "too close to call" computerized count was engineered for reasons we will detail soon. And Bush will be in the White House, as the Ruling Elite is slowly but surely quelling the rebellion on the hardcore Democratic left that has been trying to upset the Ruling Elite game plan.
Jim Condit Jr., Director, Citizens for a Fair Vote Count
Ballot Convoy? Part of an absurd Dem / Repub Criminal Process.
Brooks Jackson: 'Dimpled' ballots count in Texas
From Brooks Jackson/CNN
November 21, 2000
Web posted at: 11:00 p.m. EST (0400 GMT) 'Dimpled' ballots count in TexasNovember 21, 2000
December 7, 2000
The ignored elephant
Thomas Sowell
There was nothing unusual, much less unique, about the election in Florida. It was like elections all over the country, year after year.
There are always ballots which cannot be counted for one reason or another -- millions of them nationwide. There were more of them in Republican counties in Florida than in the Democratic counties where so much noise, so much spin and so much litigation has been unleashed.
These plain facts are like the elephant in the middle of the living room that everyone pretends not to see. What has been happening in Florida after the election is a contrived crisis, used to justify recounts and re-re-recounts, in a desperate hope of winning after losing.
Interpreting Votes
By Geraldine Sealey
Nov. 22 — If a voter pokes a hole in a ballot, but leaves a “hanging” chad — or shred of paper — did the voter intend to cast a vote? What if the ballot appears “dimpled,” but no hole was punched?Oliver Yates Libaw, ABCNEWS.com
TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND BEGIN. NOWHERE ELSE ON THE NET IS THIS KIND OF IN-DEPTH COMPREHENSEIVE ANALYSIS GOING ON
Since the hand recounts began, guess what has been happening. Chads, the bits of paper never before loosened from a ballot card by the sharp stylus on a punch-hole machine, are now just happenstance falling to the floor. 78 of them. 200 of them, and in Miami Dade thousands of them. Yes, you read that correctly, not necessary to hold up to sun, there's enough light!
In one Florida county, during the hand recount, reports showed that Bush had lost 120 plus votes. In a Tuesday November 21 noon Fox News report, an anchor shows a visual for Broward County tallies while the hand-counting is ongoing. In precinct 162 E, the first hand recount shows Gore votes increased to 1103. In the same precinct, the second hand recount shows Gore votes decreased to to 1092.
Fox News report Nov. 22, 2000 at 12:45 p.m. (yes, tv is on all day long, as I type away) mindless reporter just regurgitating numbers says:
In Palm Beach County 260 votes for Bush have been thrown away.
Then the reporter just nonchalantely tallies the Gore votes, which seem to be slow as molasses in raising the count.
But wait, in Palm Beach County take a look at (11-30-2000) final results:
PALM BEACH
Gore: Election Night 268,945 269,754 Gore Change: +809
Bush: Election Night 152,846 Certified 153,964 Bush Change: +1118
INTERESTING, THAT. BUSH ACTUALLY GAINED MORE VOTES THAN GORE??
It's obvious what has been happening...
12/18/2000
Washington's Week
Gore Scrounges for Florida Votes
By Jennifer G. Hickey
hickey@insightmag.com
The Gore campaign was well-prepared beforehand for a vote recount in Florida and immediately put into play its no-holds-barred strategy to spin the vote total around in Gore’s favor.
Washington's Week Gore Scrounges for Florida Votes
As I pointed out IN MY LETTER TO THE EDITOR AS YET UNPUBLISHED in newspapers probably because they can't call to check whether I am still alive and able to send it, we see videotape of these hand counters holding up these ballots. There are fully poked out holes all over the card. There were allegedly in Palm Beach County 19,000 double-punched holes for two presidential candidates, thus invalidating them. Obviously, voters pressed hard enough for two candidates, but couldn't press hard enough for just one candidate, and on ballots where the voter did clear holes for other positions like senators and representatives. I mean, these ballots look like they were used for target practice. Yet, we are expected to believe, according to testimony before Judge LaBarga Nov. 22, 2000, that ballots which contain all these holes for other offices, where the stylus obviously poked through hard enough, we are expected to swallow, that the voter meant to vote for President, too, but just didn't press the stylus hard enough!
Days later, the story changed even further.
November 24, 2000
WE HEARD NOTHING THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION ON NOV. 7, 2000, ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT THESE TYPES OF VOTING MACHINES WERE PRONE TO WEAR AND TEAR WHICH MIGHT CAUSE THE STYLUS TO WORK IMPROPERLY!
I don't think we are this stupid, but maybe I am wrong.
We've written a scathing reply to e-mail Subject: Florida-Electoral-Fraud? from GOPBias Group.
from GOPBias Group
Hard to believe...but the Bush electoral apparatus in Florida may actually be a criminal electoral conspiracy. Bush Republicans have placed in predominantly Democratic areas old voting machines known to off-punch and dimple-punch because of worn rubber backing - - which is why...in fact...there are over ten thousand ballot votes...WHICH HAVE NEVER BEEN COUNTED.
William Rouverol, the inventor of the Votomatics in question...has testified that hand counts are required and routine in close elections.
The dimpled ballots are but ONE of the several "irregularities" in the current voting mechanism in Florida...which voting mechanism has given George W. Bush a 500 vote advantage. Were all legal votes for Albert Gore in Florida counted, Mr. Gore would likely defeat Mr. Bush by a five thousand+ vote margin.
In hindsight, I think something was suspicious. The tape was cut to precisely cover the hole and not be seen. I do think these ballots were doctored by someone. I was more focused on the tape and not which candidate this was affecting. Plus the only thing we could do was put the taped ballots into the questionable pile to be reviewed later. Reading Monday's news, I see the ballots were taking votes away from Bush and giving them to Gore.
With Palm Beach County being heavily Democratic, Gore's pile was much bigger than Bush's pile. With four sets of eyes on our work, someone would catch if a ballot was being accidentally placed in the wrong pile. This almost happened a few times when there would be many consecutive votes for Gore, then a vote for Bush. We would almost get into an automatic mode of putting the ballot into the Gore pile. But no votes were misplaced by our group.
Given this man's observations, alone, we must question how the Florida Supremes do not see that the evidence, the original ballot of an individual voter who voted on election day, may now be altered beyond recognition.
The proof is further in the recounts which show a loss of votes for Bush and a loss of votes from the first recount to the second recount for Gore! There is still no explanation of that.
There's so much more. First it was voters who couldn't follow arrows, then it was voters who thought they had voted incorrectly for Buchanan, now the Gore argument is that votes are left uncounted because of faulty machines - the machines couldn't read the vote.
What is wrong with this?
All across the country, there are these machine rejections. 2 Million for Year 2000, according to reports, and IMUS IN THE MORNING and FOX AND FRIENDS! The past election boards all across the country have known that these particular problems have occurred in each and every election for president ever since these Puncho-Voto-Rob-a-vote-matic machines have been in use, for some 25 years.
Why is this an issue now?
It's an issue because Gore-in-Cheat cannot take defeat.
No complaints were made about the rejection by machine of 15,000 of these undervotes in Palm Beach County in gee, what year? What election? Who won. That's right, in 1996 for the presidential election between Dole and Clinton and the Reform candidate, Libertarian candidate, and other third-party candidates - and Clinton won under those circumstances!
Not one complaint from Al Gore, the Vice Presidential candidate in 1996 about the matter of how these people's votes didn't count because of a faulty machine. Not one complaint from Democrat pundit Bill Press in 1996 although he apparantly knew of such undervotes when he discussed the Year 2000 circumstances of overvotes and undervotes in Palm Beach County on the program Crossfire and other programs.
Cause people - the machine didn't count those undervotes in 1996. Somebody needs to ask Gore and Press about that. Do you think the Jonathan Alters of the darling media will ask?
Republicans pointed out that four years ago, only 46 people in Roosevelt County — less than 1 percent of voters — did not vote for president. Statewide that year, the drop-off was 3.6 percent.
In this year's election, 2.8 percent of voters statewide did not vote for president. But in some counties the undervote was substantially higher: 10 percent in Rio Arriba County, 7 percent in McKinley County and 5 percent in Mora County, all Democratic strongholds.
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WHY ISN'T GORE-INCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE 10 percent in Rio Arriba County, 7 percent in McKinley County and 5 percent in Mora County, all Democratic strongholds IN NEW MEXICO?
Because he is winning there. He doesn't want any more Democrat votes in those counties from the undervotes because he doesn't need those people to win in that state!!
And, even more unbelievably, Gore-inch is not coming to the rescue of Democrat absentee ballots in Seminole County. Democrat plaintiff Harry Jacobs, a Democrat trial lawyer from Orlando seeks to have not just 4,700 Republican absentee ballots thrown out, but all 15,000 of those county absentee ballots thrown out.
Claire Shipman didn't ask Gore anything along these lines during her exclusive interview on Wed., Nov. 29, 2000. Just unbelievable.
We would have asked right up front:
Mr. Vice President - during the 1996 presidential election, in numerous counties in Florida, including Palm Beach County, there were these undervotes. Here are the numbers:
Why weren't these undervotes important to you in 1996, people's votes were left uncounted, thrown away as non-votes, Mr. Gore. Why didn't you complain then?
Uh, because, because, everybody's vote does count now, that's what we're trying to correct.
But that's now, Mr. Gore. What about then?
Uh duh, we have to build on the past for the future.
Ok. Mr. Gore, but let me say this, your refusal to address these important questions should show the public that your political future is past.
The injustice of the entire hand re-count situation isn't only that ballot fraud is going on in favor of Gore-in-Cheat. Gore folks want to count ballots that supposedly have no indication for president. It doesn't matter if the machines did not record these votes since the election officials in these counties knew in 1996 that such undervotes occurred.
The injustice is somebody else's ballot has been altered.
Remember, people, only here at Truth On-Line are you finding this aspect of the situation.
In their efforts to find new votes, the Democrats are showing that they are willing to disenfranchise other voters who voted for whomever. One chad, just one is all the proof needed that somebody's ballot has been distorted and altered from its original condition.
That isn't just cheating, it's criminal and it's unconscionable.
No court of law in the nation would accept altered or distorted evidence.
We are on top of things, here. We said exactly the same thing as CBSNews.com's Dick Meyer
on the day Gore-inch lawyers kept saying, "Bush could have asked for a recount, too. He had the chance."
Gore Gets Gonged
Is The Veep Fighting For Democracy ...
...Or Just For Himself?
Commentary By CBSNews.com's Dick Meyer
Dick Meyer - If Gore’s goal were really a "single, full, and accurate count" he would have demanded manual recounts in all 67 Florida counties. And his forces would not have tried to suppress the heavily Republican overseas absentee vote. And they would not have fought so desperately to make select Democratic counties use select methods for counting ambiguous ballots with "indented chads."
Battle Of The Briefs Gore v. Bush Survival Guide
WASHINGTON, Nov. 28, 2000 It is both ironic and educative that Vice President Al Gore’s address to the nation Monday night was laced with half-truths.
Cases hinge on what definition of 'vote' is
Lack of vote-counting uniformity among Fla. counties is a key issue in challenges.
By Warren Richey (richeyw@csps.com)
Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
NOVEMBER 28, 2000
What is a valid vote for president of the United States?
On Nov. 7, there was no doubt about how to win Florida's 25 electoral votes. The clear, jointly accepted standard for presidential victory was whichever candidate received the most votes as read by a machine.
Three weeks later, new categories of votes have been counted from ballots that would not have been recognized as valid votes on election night.
For example, a vote-counting machine is unable to register a dimpled chad as a legitimate vote. But local canvassing boards in both Broward and Palm Beach have determined since the election that, under certain circumstances, dimples are votes.
NOVEMBER 28, 2000 Christian Science Monitor
What is a valid vote for president of the United States?
MILITARY BALLOTS ACCORDING TO LAW SHALL BE FREE OF POSTAGE
Ubicumque Tyrannus: Wherever the Tyrant
Diane Alden
Nov. 29, 2000
According to 39 USC 3406, "balloting materials under the Uniformed and Overseas Absentee Voting Act, individually or in bulk, shall be carried expeditiously and free of postage." There are severe penalties for violations, but obviously the Democratic lawyers running things in Florida do not care about that. They wrote a memo to the vote counters and distributed it throughout Florida. Fiedor states in his article that one of the specific errors in that memo is that it incorrectly instructs ballot counters to reject all military absentee ballots that do not have a postmark.
On or about November 7, 2000, democratic attorneys in Miami wrote a legal opinion memo titled "Overseas Absentee Ballot Review and Protest" and distributed the memo to people responsible for counting votes throughout the state of Florida. Because of that memo, hundreds of military votes were not counted in Florida.
Other information shows that this fraud on the American military may have been part of a well-thought-out plan. For instance, last year the Clinton-Gore administration reversed the Decades-old practice of setting up polling places on military bases. They even tried to stop National Guard facilities from being used as polling places. Congress responded with a bill overruling that action, but Clinton and Gore had Senator Carl Levin, D-Mich., the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, block its passage in the Senate.
For the military the cut that went deepest was when outgoing Democratic senator and former military hero Bob Kerrey of Nebraska berated his fellows in uniform for not paying attention to details such as postmarks. Not surprisingly, he is either not aware of one of the laws he helped create or he knows about it and just doesn't care. One wonders where Senators Kerrey and Max Cleland were when the military voting facilities were being dismantled. Perhaps they had more important things to do, such as voting themselves a pay increase or desperately trying to avoid a trial in the Senate for the impeached draft dodger in the White House, their fellow Democrat, William Jefferson Clinton.
It is a shame that those senators are so cavalier with the rights of the men and women in uniform. But it is par for the corrupt course we have been on in this country for a number of years.
All this portends ill if Al Gore takes office. He will be commander in chief of a military that he and his mentor in the White House have nearly destroyed.
Saturday, November 25, 2000
Evidence of Massive Ballot Tampering in Palm Beach County
There is "Explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in Palm Beach, Fl.," says expert statistician Robert Cook, who notes that ballot errors only occurred in presidential races?
And, he adds, the same kind of ballot tampering occurred in Palm Beach County in 1996.
Exclusive: Voter Error Not Limited to Democrat Counties
Stephan Archer
Saturday, Dec. 2, 2000
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In Taylor County, voters selected their candidate of choice on a sheet of paper consisting of all the candidates' names. Voters selected their favorite candidate by filling in an oval next to the name with a No. 2 pencil.
Even though this ballot, similar to multiple-choice tests taken in school, was seemingly straightforward, 517 of the county's 6,800 ballots, or roughly 7.6 percent of all ballots, had to be thrown out due to overvoting. An overvote occurs when a voter casts a vote for more than one candidate in the same election.
Miami-Dade Vote Fraud: A Tradition Since 1982
NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Nov. 22, 2000 Wednesday, Nov. 22, 2000 Miami-Dade Vote Fraud: A Tradition Since 1982
Published Wednesday, November 15, 2000, in the Miami Herald
Manual review of ballots may lack precision
BY PETER WHORISKEY
pjwhoriskey@herald.com
Even though hand-counting ballots will correct some errors in the original tallies, voting experts and elections officials say, the method may not be precise enough to accurately determine the winner in a contest as close as the Florida presidential race.
As required by law, the GSA set up a transition office complete with computers and telephones and stood ready to turn over the keys -- and the bank account -- to either Bush or Gore the morning after Election Day. But the recounting and legal battles, which are now likely to intensify, kept the door locked.
Now, personally, I'm not losing any sleep over this. As far as I'm concerned, the United States of America would operate well, in most cases, without any president. The trouble is, we still have one. In fact, we have a president who would welcome any excuse to avoid leaving office Jan. 20.
And the other problem is that Bush simply doesn't get it. Did you hear his speech after the certification in Florida? He's still making campaign speeches about Social Security, government schools and senior citizen health care. Many of you told me that was all just campaign rhetoric prior to the election. Well, folks, the election is over. And Bush is making clear that his No. 1 priority remains the transfer of wealth from one segment of society to another -- regardless of what the Constitution might say about such plans.
What he ought to be talking about is the prosecution of the organized criminal enterprise known as the Clinton administration.
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Ignoring votes means ignoring democracy itself. And if we ignore the votes of thousands in Florida in this election, how can you or any American have confidence that your vote will not be ignored in a future election?
That is all we have asked since Election Day: a complete count of all the votes cast in Florida. Not recount after recount as some have charged, but a single, full and accurate count.
We haven't had that yet. Great efforts have been made to prevent the counting of these votes. Lawsuit after lawsuit has been filed to delay the count and to stop the counting for many precious days between Election Day and the deadline for having the count finished.
And this would be over long since, except for those efforts to block the process at every turn. In one county, election officials brought the count to a premature end in the face of organized intimidation. In a number of counties, votes that had been fairly counted were simply set aside. And many thousands of votes that were cast on Election Day have not yet been counted at all, not once.
There are some who would have us bring this election to the fastest conclusion possible. I have a different view. I believe our Constitution matters more than convenience. So, as provided under Florida law, I have decided to contest this inaccurate and incomplete count, in order to ensure the greatest possible credibility for the outcome.
Gore's statement is untrue: "In one county, election officials brought the count to a premature end in the face of organized intimidation."
The Miami-Dade Canvassing Board Chairman, David Leary, on four different occasions, said that the board was not intimidated, rather, they acknowledged they simply did not have the time to count ALL OF THE BALLOTS. His belief, he further stated, is that to count only the undervotes, to speed things up, would be unfair to the ballots that would not be able to be counted/re-counted, ever, in time for the Sunday deadline imposed by the Florida Supreme Court.
But Gore-in-Cheat doesn't believe his own registered Democrat Canvassing Board member.
Morse was one of dozens of Republican observers who took time off work for congressional Republicans to travel down to Florida to take part in what he felt was a historic event. Like many of the volunteers who flocked to Florida, he thought he was going to witness democracy at work. Instead, what he saw at the Stephen P. Clark Center in Miami-Dade County made him sick.
"After three days of changing the rules every time we walked in the room, the Democrats finally decided to conduct a partial recount behind closed doors, and took the disputed ballots from the main counting room to a small, private room up on the 19th floor without the press," Morse said. "They barred the doors to Republican observers, and refused to let us enter. That's when we realized we had to do something to prevent them from stealing the election."
Under Florida's "sunshine" laws, dozens of television news teams had been allowed to film the manual recount at county election offices in Miami-Dade, West Palm Beach and other disputed counties from behind a rope line.
The Free Congress Commentary: The Will of the People
By LISA DEAN
November 14, 2000
I am talking about the threat to our liberties which is being enacted on the national stage right now as the troops of Albert Gore Jr. prepare to march forward to win an election they know they had lost.
That they can do so with a straight face is a tribute to what they have managed to get away with over the past eight years. The fact is if they succeed in getting another four years it will be because they know you don't care.
GEE THANKS LISA, WE NEEDED THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS NOTHING THE REST OF THE COUNTRY CAN DO EXCEPT WATCH THE BUMBLING NEWS REPORTERS WHO DON'T EVEN GATHER THE FACTS. IT IS UP TO FLORIDA CITIZENS WHO ACTUALLY VOTED, LEGALLY VOTED, TO STORM THE COURT AND DEMAND THAT THE ONE MAN ONE VOTE RULE BE CHECKED.
Not once have I heard an accurate accounting of exactly how many actual voters are even LEGALLY registered in one of these counties where recounts and handcounts were requested BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY PEOPLE WHEN, EVEN BEFORE THE UNOFFICIAL COUNT WAS IN!! Now we, the people are being told that Broward Conty has 588,000 ballots to recount. Yet, not one reporter has verified that the county officials have even verified the names and addresses and registration status of 588,000 potential voters who all supposedly voted on Election Day!
So Lisa, sorry, we have enough problems here in Fayette County PA trying to verify that our own county election board and registration board has verified who even is alive or dead in this county to be registered to vote. I'm angry, too. It is all fraudulent.
And it is all going on right before our eyes.
Ashley whoever of MSNBC stood in front of us this morning Nov. 15, 2000 for two hours, reporting on what's going on and hearing reports of affadavits being signed and presented which allege voting fraud on the part of a canvassing board Democrat commissioner, and what does Ashley say after all this time:
I've been fingering this sample punch ballot and guess what, I made a chad!!!
Ashleigh then showed us the hanging chad she herself created without any utensil, nothing except rubbing and fingering the ballot normally!
NOTICE HOW FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY FLORIDA THE NUMBER OF TOTAL REGISTERED VOTERS WHO ACTUALLY VOTED KEEPS GOING UP! ### ! AND GUESS WHAT? MORE VOTES HAVE BEEN FOUND FOR GORE DUE TO A COMPUTER POWER OUTAGE ON WHAT DAY - ELECTION DAY - THAT WE NEVER HEARD OF UNTIL ONE WEEK LATER! where did this malfunction occur? Not in Florida? You think? Read on! ### keep piling up.
AROUND NOON MONDAY, NOV. 13, 2000 A TV REPORT (CNN, FOX, MSNBC) STATED 425,000 BALLOTS WERE GOING TO BE HAND COUNTED BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE HAND COUNT OF A 1% SAMPLE OF BALLOTS IN THE PRECINCTS CHOSEN FOR THE HAND COUNT IN PALM BEACH COUNTY FLORIDA. AT 8:30 p.m. A REPORTER STATED MORE THAN 460,000 VOTES WOULD BE HAND COUNTED
BUT WAIT CNN REPORTER MARTIN SAVAGE AT 11 PM EASTERN STANDARD TIME MONDAY, NOV. 13, 2000 JUST SAID ALL THE VOTES CAST IN PALM BEACH COUNTY = 425,000!! AND ON TUESDAY NOV. 14, 2000 KELLY O'DONNELL ON MSNBC STATED AT STAKE ARE SOME 460,000 VOTES CAST IN THE ELECTION.
CNN November 16, 2000 stated some 431,000 at stake in the recount in gee, which county?? PALM BEACH COUNTY
Thursday, Nov. 16, 2000; 6:33 p.m. EST
Palm Beach To Resume Hand Recount
By Karin Meadows
Associated Press Writer
Within minutes of a Florida Supreme Court ruling permitting the hand recounts in the state's disputed presidential election, the county began preparing to count all
MORE from Broward County again. Earlier report Nov. 15, 2000 stated at stake were 588,000 ballot votes to hand count by a full hand count. While another reporter later said, just in passing, that now it's about 855,000 ballot votes. Does someone have dyslexia, too, in Florida?
CNN NOVEMBER 17, 2000 ET 1:44 PM
Palm Beach County talking about 431,000 ballots to be hand recounted.
Yet four days earlier, reports all over continued to cite 425,000 ballots to be hand recounted pending ruling of judge at the time.
HOW MANY VOTERS ACTUALLY VOTED AT THE POLLS ON NOV. 7, 2000 IN PALM BEACH COUNTY??
Con-cerning those 19,000 BALLOTS SAID TO BE OVERCAST - by law they cannot be counted! Therefore, the officials tallying those ballots were obligated to disallow (discard) those. Those are thankfully not in the mix.
But DAYS LATER HOW QUICKLY THINGS PROGRESS now in the mix are ballots that had no discernible hole punch which were rejected by the initial machine recount!
Now come on, any thinking person cannot possibly believe that out of 4,000 ballots checked (by a hand count) in Palm Beach County all half-a-hole or incomplete punched chads were found only, only in the Gore hole!!! What are the statistics for that? just because potentially more people in the county voted for Gore-in-Cheat does not mean that statistically, those voters would have been so weak-handed and inattentive as to not press hard enough on the gizmo guzmo.
And you have to ask yourself, why weren't any of these half-poked hanging chads found for the
Buchanan hole!
To date, I haven't heard of even one, not one, hanging chad found for Ralph Nader, who had a good bit of votes, too. What are the chances of not one hanging chad being found on Nader's and on Buchanan's holes? You figure. Why isn't anyone questioning that there have been no new votes found from hanging chads for any third party candidate?
In addition, if these people say they thought they voted incorrectly for Buchanan and then they voted for Gore, too, then two holes would have been punched out. You have been paying attention and reading this far, right??
One for Gore, one for Buchanan. Those, we have heard reported, amounted to the tune of 19,000 and were discarded, BY LAW!
Obviously the GORE hole was punched out in those cases because those ballots were discarded because what, hmm, people cast two votes, one for Buchanan, and one for Gore. Officials discarded the two-punched hole ballots because a voter can only choose one candidate for president. Obviously, the Gore hole was working fine in those cases where people voted twice, once for Gore and once for Buchanan!! See, if you keep repeating something over and over again, people begin to believe it.
But somehow, other voters who voted for only Gore had a malfunctioning machine which did not record thir vote accurately?
Believe that and I have beachfront property in Iowa to sell you.
What is going on? In which instances were ballots undercast?
Of course, Democrat Gore supporters say MOST OF THE UNDERCAST BALLOTS will show Gore ahead!! One commissioner, CAROL ROBERTS, went so far as to say initially, when 19 more votes for Gore were found that that would translate into 1900 votes for Gore if 400,000 ballots were recounted by hand!
What is the basis for that KNOWLEDGE AND ASSESSMENT when faced with this days' old now information from Volusia County where for the 1 percent hand count, out of 4000 samples - 30 have been tallied for Gore and for Bush, there are a few - 19.
There is absolutely no way to predict or forecast that because 4,000 samples produced 30 and 19 additions respectively, that 400,000 samples hand counted will produce 1000 times more for each Gore and Bush tallies. In other words, we cannot say that because 30 more votes for Gore were found in a sample of 4,000 then in a hand count of 400,000 1,000 times more that amount or 3,000 more votes would be found for Gore. We cannot say that because 19 more votes for Bush were found in a sample of 4,000 then in a hand count of 400,000 1,000 times more that amount or 1,9000 more votes would be found for Bush. In fact, there could be no change at all, because remember, the fault cannot be in the MACHINE, BECAUSE THE MACHINE POKED THE HOLES THROUGH ENOUGH ON THE OVERVOTES FOR GORE AND BUCHANANAN TO BE DISCARDED TO THE TUNE OF 19,000 BALLOTS, rather, the fault is in the individual voter, and in a sample of 4,000 just a total of 30 were found for the Gore hole!
Also, we have not been apprised of how any of these so-called undervotes have been accumulated to the astronomical numbers we are hearing about. If there was this much of a problem in a county the first few hours of voting in that county the word would have spread like wildfire that votes weren't being tallied, after all, initially the machines were counting the ballots. Poll workers have registration cards, etc. there with them, or should have. If ten people come into the poll, and ten people have left without showing a #hole punched, someone should have caught that immediately.
It is just inconceivable that nobody, no voter who says they may have pressed two holes did not check their initial ballot.
Well, we found one who did check. During testimony before the Florida state legislature on Wednesday, November 29, 2000, a blonde-haired woman who rarely looked up from the podium did relay her saga. I knew I made a mistake on my ballot, I went to the officials standing around, they didn't want to help me. I went over to the other officials, hoping they'd help. They said to me, you already voted, you can't have another ballot.
So I didn't get to vote, the woman said.
Now people, how can we fall for this? This woman, may be very nice, but she's leaving out an important key piece of the story - did she turn in her original ballot to officials, or did she not?
Check out these reports: one of the counties reported NO CHANGE IN THE NUMBERS AFTER A HAND RECOUNT! Now if that doesn't throw off the statistics, I don't know what does!
So, statistically, anything goes for the remaining two counties, or three, or four.
This just in Nov 13, 2000 at 8 PM Eastern Standard Time MSNBC:
THAT IS NOT A WHOLE (#HOLE) LOT OF CHANGE, PEOPLE!
But a representative just said that extrapolates to 400 more votes for Al Gore if 100 percent were hand counted.
Unbelievable!
Again and emphatically, when one considers that the initial suspect 19,000 overcasts were punched for both the Buchanan hole and for the Gore-in-Cheat hole there really should not be a whole (HOLE)lot that were NOT PUNCHED FOR GORE-IN-CHEAT by machine error! The error then, if we believe there were an amount of undercasts in the first place not caught by the tally machine, is an error on the part of the voter!
And the info just in from Broward County absolutely proves that it is voter-error, not machine malfunction! And not that many voters were weak-handed!!
It cannot be statistically possible that only the Gore people were inattentive to what they were doing, were weak-handed in depressing the puncher on the ballot machine, and were irresponsible by not looking at their ballot after voting to check whether the hole punched through. It cannot be statistically possible that only Gore voters were too weak to emphatically punch down hard enough for their vote to be recorded! Bush people could have been inattentive and irresponsible, too. And so, too could Nader and Buchanan people!
So, if we are to believe in all of this that Gore-in-Cheat gained more because of weak handed voters, then we have to have at least one, just one little hanging chad for Buchanan and for Nader. There have to be a few weak-handed voters among them.
Just one little hanging chad, that's all I'm asking for. Just one for Nader, that's all that's needed to convince me that there really are ANY MORE FOR GORE-IN-CHEAT!
You read this at Truth On-Line, first. Nobody else in the nation is asking why there isn't one hanging chad for Nader and Buchanan. No report has added even one vote to the Nader or Buchanan tallies due to hanging chad.
Notice that there has been no problem with the Libertarian vote tallies - those people know their stuff!
The ballot could be designed to be a maze, with the Libertarian candidate for president written so microscopically as to need a pair of USA-Made designer eyeglasses to detect, and a Libertarian, who takes his or her vote so seriously will find their candidate, no matter how difficult.
It's just too bad for our country that more such ballot machines were not used across the country with the Libertarian Party candidate, Harry Browne, placement in the position which has reportedly caused so much confusion!
According to the Libertarian Party, there have been more registrants in the Libertarian Party than ever before.
And we know that there has been an increase in disatisfaction with both the Republican and Democrat parties.
And the reports show that even in Palm Beach County, Florida, there has been an increase in the registration in independent party classification. That has held true across the American states.
WHY SUCH DRAMATIC DISCREPANCY IN AP REPORTING VS FLORIDA STATE OFFICIAL REPORT OF AS YET UNCERTIFIED RESULTS?
Machine recounts in 66 of Florida’s 67 counties showed Bush with a
961 vote lead statewide, according to the secretary of state. An unofficial survey of all 67 counties by the Voter News Service showed the Republican candidate (Bush)with a 327 vote edge.
KIDS CAN MANAGE WITH THE ARROWS AND LARGE LETTERING
11-24-00
Butterfly Ballot Doesn't Baffle School Kids
By Joseph A. D’Agostino
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/11-24-00/dagostino.html
Other Jurisdictions, Including Daley's Chicago, Use Palm-Beach-Style Ballot11-24-00
Computer Vote Counts are Unverifiable
by Jim Condit, Jr.
HOW ARE YOUR VOTES BEING COUNTED?
http://www.votefraud.org/Archive/Write/unverifiable.htm
In 1977, American Opinion magazine ran an article entitled How Elections Are Stolen by Dr. Susan L.M. Huck. (Dr. Huck was later assistant to Congressman Lawrence P. McDonald who was aboard Korean Flight 007 which was downed by the Soviet Union in the mid 80s).
This article represented, as far as we know, the first major expose' of the dangers of computerized voting. The Washington-based weekly, The Spotlight, later, in the mid 1980s carried a lengthy series of articles entitled Votescam: The Stealing of America by James and Kenneth Collier.
In 1987, a Cincinnatus political commercial gave a forum to two former Cincinnati Bell phone installers who announced to the public that they had done massive wiretapping of people, places, and voting machines. The focus of the commercial was when installer Leonard Gates looked into the camera and said, "In 1979 I was told by my supervisor at Cincinnati Bell to wiretap the voting machine so that the votes could be altered. YOUR votes." Channel 12 Anchorman Nick Clooney and reporter Mary Krutko aired an excellent five minute report on the 6 PM news on the night these commercials aired in late October 1987.
The next day, Cincinnati Post reporter Randy Ludlow did a superb article summarizing the situation. But then the local media masters again slammed down the news curtain. No investigation. Not even a few tough questions for Cincinnati Bell or the Board of elections.
There's much, much more to this story including: eventually almost 400 articles in the local papers; dozens of television news reports; several radio talk shows in Cincinnati, Detroit, Washington D.C. and Florida; a two year lawsuit; the admission by policemen to being involved with illegal wiretaps on individuals; the admission by Cincinnati Bell that its truck had been used in wiretapping; the expose' by the former Bell employees of the MLT-2 monitor - which device - set in your office or living room and properly hooked into the phone lines - is capable of listening in on any phone number in the continental United States without trace or detection; and more.
We will try to investigate every aspect of votescam for the benefit of fair minded Americans all over this nation - with a view to having this farcical, to say nothing of criminal, situation remedied. In 1988 - eleven years after the American Opinion article and seven years after the filing of the Cincinnatus lawsuit concerning computer vote fraud and unverifiable elections, CBS evening news and THE NEW YORKER magazine finally brought the issue into the mainstream media. CBS's almost excellent report by Dan Rather was actually prompted by Ronnie Dugger's comprehensive article in the November, 1988 NEW YORKER magazine entitled The Dangers of Computerized Voting. In late 1989, Dugger came to Cincinnati to cover the wiretap exhibits and court records in the archives of the Cincinnatus Political Action Committee. Mr. Dugger assures us he will eventually publish the results of all his research.
There is hope on the horizon! Mr. Paul Ernst of Reading, Ohio has invented a voting machine called the SEED system. The name is an acronym for those who helped bring the machine into existence. But Ernst also says that - in contrast to the unverifiable computerized elections that are now being held - properly counted votes can be the SEEDS of freedom.
This Could Be the End For the Punchcard Ballot
Wednesday, November 29, 2000
By Terry Spencer
MIAMI — By 2004, some Florida voters may cast their ballots by touching a computer screen and others will mark paper ballots counted by computer. In tiny Union County, voters still might do it the old-fashioned way, marking an "X" on a paper ballot that will be counted by hand...
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The "direct recording electronic" system is used in hundreds of counties across the country, but none in Florida. It places a computer in each booth, with buttons next to each candidate's name or screens that voters can touch to make their choices.
Votes are recorded within the computer as a backup, and some print a paper ballot that's put in a ballot box in case of a system failure.
Each computer costs between $3,000 and $6,000 and one is needed for every 400 to 500 voters.
