Rod Ferrell's Confession Pt.2
Q: What about the knife, was it still in the car?
A: Ah, Zoey had it on her cause it was her father's knife and she
wanted to keep it as a souvenir I guess.
Q: Okay. Where were you guys going?
A: You mean after Florida?
Q: Yeah.
A: The place we actually went to, New Orleans. We got pulled over
by the cops there too (unintel). We got pulled over five times on this whole trip and never got caught til now, til we checked into a hotel.
Q: Why did you let one of them call? Who called their grandmother?
Did somebody call South Dakota?
A: Yeah, that was Che.
Q: Che did.
A: She was freaking out and she's basically the only thing I care about
in this world, so
Moran: Bingo, that's who got when she made the phone call.
A: Oh, I know. That's when I told them, get out of town now but
they didn't listen to me. See, they never listen to the leader.
Q: Where were you going to go?
A: Don't know, don't care.
Q: Just ride til you lit somewhere?
A: Til I found a nice forest area. I was just going to fucking ditch
the fucking Explorer in some lake and start going through the fucking woods,
killing deers or whatever I could find for meat. It was her grandparents
that turned them in?
Q: Ahm, I don't know for a fact.
A: Cause I thought it was her mom cause she's like a Deputy Sheriff in Rapid City.
Q: I don't think her mom knew where she was.
A: Uhm, she called her mom too.
Q: Rapid City, South Dakota. May have been, I don't know. There was somebody up there.
A: Yes, sir, her mom and she's a bitch.
Q: Did, did you all ever discuss these homicides, prior to the day you went
over there, with anybody that you can remember?
A: We never thought about it until about ten minutes before we did it.
Q: Okay, so you didn't, it wasn't a planned thing til you went over there?
A: It wasn't premeditated - it would be like spontaneous (unintel) because
if you premeditate something it's too easily planned out and easily known.
Q: How long you guys been knowing each other?
A: All of us?
Q: Yeah.
A: Me and Scott, since second grade. I've know Che for eleven months,
going on twelve. I've know Dana for two weeks and Zoey for a year.
Q: And Dana lived in Eustis with Zooey? No, Dana lived in Kentucky.
I'm so confused Rod.
A: Yeah, you need fucking help.
Q: You and Scott and Dana and Che were all from Kentucky?
A: Yeah.
Q: Yeah, all right, when you all went to Eustis that's when you saw Zoey?
A: We were supposed to pick up Zoey and Jeanine.
Q: And you've known Zoey for?
A: One year, I just moved from Florida about a year ago.
Q: In Eustis?
A: Yeah, used to go to Eustis High.
Q: Were your parents there or?
A: I lived with my mom and my grandparents. Later on mom got married to
Darren Breven which if you had jurisdiction in Michigan tell you a few
things about him, but this is about me right now so
Q: Did you know Zoey's parents prior to this?
A: I'd never even seen them before until I found them that night so
I wasn't even, hell, I went to the wrong house first. Didn't kill
anybody though cause I looked in and saw there was little kids and
that's my rule, I don't kill anything that's little. Now adults,
that's perfectly fine, 16 and up.
Q: In this trip that you all taken, did you ever, did you assault anybody or?
A: Just the parents.
Q: Nobody else since them?
A: I was on my way here, we went into a secluded forest area to rest
so that way no policeman could see us. My idea of course, they cut
down camouflage and shit to cover up the Explorer. Worked quite nicely.
Q: Where was that?
A: Somewhere in the state.
Q: In Louisiana?
A: I think so cause, yeah, it had to be cause last two days cause we
just been here a few days.
Q: Was it before you got to New Orleans or after?
A: It was after, cause in New Orleans and started walking through this
big complex. It was not too nice of a neighborhood.
Q: There aren't too many nice neighborhoods anymore.
A: That's when Che freaked out because she's never been to a big
city and she's never seen black people carry around AK-47's in their
hack yards. So we left there and came here and were like flat broke,
had no food and the only thing I could...
Q: That was here in Baton Rouge?
A: It was not in Baton Rouge, it was like maybe 7 to 10 cities some direction
Q: Right outside of, were you on the Interstate?
A: I don't know, we took this back road, like wow. We were totally lost,
we just found the Interstate today. We've been over at the USS Kidd all
day on Airline Highway and so we had four or five of your patrol cars go
right past us. I was like, what the fuck.
Q: Did you think that they had put the thing out?
A: I would suspected as much. I was like uhm... so it's pretty much obvious
that they were looking at warrants and shit out on us.
Q: Have you considered staying there and waiting for Jennifer?
A: Jeanine.
Q: I mean Jeanine?
A: No, cause they, Scott wanted to stay at the house just to dump the
corpses in the pool.
Q: Uh-hum.
A: And I was like for one thing that's just sick and for another - no...
Q: You didn't want to hang around?
A: Cause the police - once one of them didn't show up at work or they
didn't show up at school they would have somebody go out there and check
or call or something and they get worried and they have cops come in.
Didn't want to deal with cops because they are a lot more hostile there
than you ever seem to be here. That's why I'm cooperating with you.
You didn't like beat my ass or anything.
Q: Why would we do that, Rod?
A: Because the Murray cops have done it, the Florida cops have done it
and whenever I see a cop car I get a nightstick upside my head.
That's why I've had such lack of faith in law enforcements.
Q: Well, everybody's not like that, buddy.
A: I know, that's why I check out everybody. I checked out (unintel).
I got cracked upside the head or something I would be totally different.
Q: Dana and Zoey and, and ah, Che weren't involved in this, right?
A: Those three were basically just the ones we kind of kidnapped we
weren't accompanied
Q: But they went along agreeably right?
A: Che had no choice. I told her either she agreed or I'd hogtie her,
take her with me. Dana came with Che because she was worried about Che.
Zoey came along cause she's been planning to come with me for about a
year because we had planned on whenever I moved back into Eustis,
her and Jeanine were going to come up here and we were just like going
to go somewhere cause I still have a lot of friends in New Orleans and
that was were I was going to live
Q: Yeah
A: And if Che didn't freak out that's where I would have been right now.
What can I say, it's a bitch about living in the big cities,
you learn to be good friends with the cops and crime lords.
Q: Any questions?
Dewey: Rod, you talked about a, you said that Scott never saw a murder before,
did you see a murder before then?
A: I've fucking seen murders like all my life, every since I was
five cause my grandfather for one, he's never been caught either.
Q: You saw these people murder other people?
A: He's part of an organization called the Black Mask. Whenever I was
five they chose me as the Guardian of the Black Mask and the Guardian
has to become one with everybody. In other words, they raped me.
And they have to sacrifice a human to the Guardian so they sacrificed
someone right in front of me.
Q: What city was that in?
A: It was in Murray.
Q: Would you call that a cult?
A: Yeah.
Q: These guys that are with ya, are they, have you indoctrinated
them into the ways of the cult or you just ah their friends that your run with?
What about Scott?
A: No, I never became part of them.
Q: Kind of tough even when you're hard core, isn't it man?
A: Two things bother me: what happened whenever I was five and the fact
that I never will get to see Che after this... I've been hanging around
gangs and cults and all that shit all my life, so I've seen like sacrifices
and drug buys...
Q: I'm just asking, Rod.
A: Killing is a way of life, animals do it, and that's the way humans are,
just the worst predators of all actually.
Q: How old is Che?
A: Sixteen (unintel) about all of this, she is carrying around my kid.
She's almost two months pregnant. Like they say, shit happens.
Q: Well Rod, I'm not going to sugarcoat this thing, buddy, cause you
know what you've done.
A: It's pretty simple, I'm fucked.
Q: The guys from Lake City, the detectives, are on their way here.
They'll probably be here around 6:00 or 7:00.
A: Is it actually possible for somebody my age to get like a death penalty?
Q: It depends, ah, I don't know what the laws are in Florida, ah, when you
are sixteen years old in this state you can be tried as an adult and you're
subject to adult penalties.
A: Cause what I was thinking, what I would have done if I was an adult would
equal the death penalty.
Q: Sure.
A: So I was hoping, you know, I was like, please go ahead, ha!
Q: To be straight up with ya, yeah, it's probably going to entail the death penalty.
A: Petty.
Q: Yeah, there you go.
A: I'm sorry, this is just like a big fucking joke. My life seems
like a dream. My childhood was taken away at five, I don't know whether
I'm asleep or dreaming anymore so whatever, for all I know I could
wake up in five minutes.
Q: Rod, I can assure you it's not a dream.
A: It's cold.
Q: Anything else you want to add?
A: Ah, yeah, beginning like get a hold of Michigan police.
Q: Uh-hum
A: Darren Breven, he just happens to be shipping drugs.
Q: Darren Breven?
A: Breven, he's an asshole.
Q: How does he spell his name?
A: D, you're talking about Darren now?
Q: Yeah
A: B-R-E-V-E-N.
Q: What city?
A: Pontiac, Michigan, he's somewhere in Michigan State right now
and he owns like this pizzeria joint. That's where he has his local
drug trafficking. He deals marijuana, occasional cocaine, heroin.
Q: Has he been arrested before?
A: Yes.
Q: Has he done any time that you know of?
A: Nope, never got convicted. The most time he did was like thirty
days in jail. That was for not paying his child support.
Q: What's his date of birth, do you know? Know how old he is?
A: Like I said, I just know he's from Michigan and I know his name.
I know he's not to hard too find cause the cops there don't like him.
Q: That's your mom's current husband or ex?
A: It's her ex, she just got a divorce from him. She's, her boyfriend
right now is Kyle Newman. He just got out of prison for forgery.
I don't know where she stays.
Q: Okay Rod, well, they're going to come here and they're probably going
to want to talk to you and it's up to you whether you talk to them or
not.
A: I hope they're nice like you all, you know. If they're assholes I'm
just going to be really quiet and clam up.
Q: Okay.
A: I didn't speak for two years at one time so I can do it again.
Q: May I see your thumb? How did you cut it?
A: With a knife
Q: By, for yourself?
A: Just went phutt (phonetic).
Q: Okay.
A: Could you see I do that quite frequently.
Q: We'll get that looked at for ya.
A: Now all the things I said, can see her - now that I spilled my guts?
Odom: Yeah, yes you may.
A: You promised.
Dewey: See. I told you.
A: The Florida police tried that once.
Dewey: I told you I wasn't going to lie to you.
A: You aren't too.
Dewey: Hang on man.
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