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List A

Los Angeles Railway/Los Angeles Transit Lines TD4506's


LAMTA #    Serial #        LAMC #          1st LATL #

6200 155 4401 6206 6201 143 --------- --------- 6202-6203 136-137 --------- --------- 6204 151 --------- --------- 6205 171 --------- --------- 6206 538 --------- --------- 6207 152 --------- --------- 6208 524 --------- --------- 6209 161 --------- --------- 6210 145 --------- --------- 6211 532 --------- --------- 6212 147 --------- --------- 6213 134 --------- --------- 6214 142 --------- --------- 6215 148 --------- --------- 6216 150 --------- --------- 6217 184 --------- --------- 6218 146 --------- --------- 6219 144 --------- --------- 6220 160 --------- --------- 6221 132 --------- --------- 6222 177 --------- --------- 6223 158 --------- --------- 6224 154 --------- --------- 6225 135 --------- --------- 6226 167 --------- --------- 6227 141 --------- --------- 6228 195 --------- --------- 6229 531 --------- --------- 6230 160 --------- --------- 6231-6233 528-530 --------- --------- 6234 527 --------- --------- 6235 520 --------- --------- 6236 523 --------- --------- 6237 540 --------- --------- 6238 533 --------- --------- 6239 192 --------- --------- 6240 187 --------- --------- 6241 519 --------- --------- 6242-6243 534-536 --------- --------- 6245 541 --------- --------- 6246 521 --------- --------- 6247 526 --------- --------- 6248 149 --------- --------- 6249 522 --------- --------- 6250 525 --------- --------- 6251 189 --------- --------- 6252 156 --------- --------- 6253 183 --------- --------- 6254 537 --------- --------- 6255 179 --------- --------- 6256 188 --------- --------- 6257-6258 173-174 --------- --------- 6259 180 4402 6208 6260 163 4403 6211 6261 166 4404 6229 6262 168 4405 6230 6263 164 4406 6231 6264 175 4407 6232 6265 172 4408 6233 6266 170 4409 6234 6267 159 4410 6235 6268 153 4411 6236 6269 157 4412 6237 6270 138 4413 6238 6271 185 4414 6241 6272 140 4415 6242 6273 196 4416 6243 6274 181 4417 6244 6275 186 4418 6245 6276 169 4419 6246 6277 182 4420 6247 6278 190 4421 6249 6279 133 4422 6250 6280 165 4423 6254 6281 198 4424 6269 6282 200 4434 6268 6283 199 4435 6267 6284 193 4436 6266 6285 191 4437 6265 6286 197 4438 6264 6287 162 4439 6263 6288 194 4440 6262 6289 139 4441 6261 6290 178 4442 6260 6291 176 4443 6259 6292 790 4425 6400 6293 795 4426 6401 6294 806 4427 6402 6295 828 4428 6403 6296 767 4429 6404 6297 777 4430 6405 6298 769 4431 6406 6299 764 4432 6407 6300 826 4433 6408 6301 784 --------- --------- 6302 759 --------- --------- 6303 787 --------- --------- 6304 762 --------- --------- 6305 750 --------- --------- 6306 760 --------- --------- 6307 772 --------- --------- 6308 778 --------- --------- 6309 773 --------- --------- 6310 752 --------- --------- 6311 746 --------- --------- 6312 763 --------- --------- 6313 768 --------- --------- 6314 808 --------- --------- 6315 819 --------- --------- 6316 766 --------- --------- 6317-6318 774-775 --------- --------- 6319 756 --------- --------- 6320 783 --------- --------- 6321 798 --------- --------- 6322 786 --------- --------- 6323 781 --------- --------- 6324 814 --------- --------- 6325 745 --------- --------- 6326 765 --------- --------- 6327 785 --------- --------- 6328 745 --------- --------- 6329 792 --------- --------- 6330 788 --------- --------- 6331 797 --------- --------- 6332 753 --------- --------- 6333 825 --------- --------- 6334 754 --------- --------- 6335 770 --------- --------- 6336 747 --------- --------- 6337 779 --------- --------- 6338 823 --------- --------- 6339 789 --------- --------- 6340 796 --------- --------- 6341 842 --------- --------- 6342 824 --------- --------- 6343 829 --------- --------- 6344 820 --------- --------- 6345 803 --------- --------- 6346 822 --------- --------- 6347 804 --------- --------- 6348 748 --------- --------- 6349 815 --------- --------- 6350 780 --------- --------- 6351 832 --------- --------- 6352 791 --------- --------- 6353 810 --------- --------- 6354 771 --------- --------- 6355 799 --------- --------- 6356 793 --------- --------- 6357 782 --------- --------- 6358 749 --------- --------- 6359 794 --------- --------- 6360 818 --------- --------- 6361 834 --------- --------- 6362 776 --------- --------- 6363 751 --------- --------- 6364 849 --------- --------- 6365 821 --------- --------- 6366 817 --------- --------- 6367 830 --------- --------- 6368 801 --------- --------- 6369 840 --------- --------- 6370 844 --------- --------- 6371 787 --------- --------- 6372 813 --------- --------- 6373 833 --------- --------- 6374 802 --------- --------- 6375 805 --------- --------- 6376 831 --------- --------- 6377 809 --------- --------- 6378 827 --------- --------- 6379 851 --------- --------- 6380 816 --------- --------- 6381 841 --------- --------- 6382 846 --------- --------- 6383 836 --------- --------- 6384 811 --------- --------- 6385-6386 838-839 --------- --------- 6387 848 --------- --------- 6388 835 --------- --------- 6389 761 --------- --------- 6390 843 --------- --------- 6391 800 --------- --------- 6392 758 --------- --------- 6393 845 --------- --------- 6394 847 --------- --------- 6395 807 --------- --------- 6396 812 --------- --------- 6397 852 --------- --------- 6398 850 --------- --------- 6399 837 --------- ---------

NOTES ON LIST B: Serial numbers in the 100's and 200's indicate buses built in 1945, while buses with serial numbers in the 500's, 700's, and 800's indicate buses built in 1946. This reflects a number of events. First, it should be noted that the first 69 buses delivered were actually ordered in 1942 by Los Angeles Railway, which had previously ordered 35-foot Yellow Coach buses (TD4502/4505, covered in List A), and these began to arrive in July 1945. A second order of 23 buses was placed by LARy in 1944, and these began to arrive in August to replace buses from the 1942 order that had been transferred to Los Angeles Motor Coach, a joint subsidiary of LATL (and previously LARy) and Pacific Electric.
Prior to the arrival of the first two groups, a third order of TD4506's was placed by LATL, presumably due to a belief that the war with Japan would continue for several more years, and equipment would be needed to carry the record number of passengers that were thronging the LATL system; two actual missions over Japan in August 1945 would cut the conflict short. This, as well as the second LARy order, were delayed by a strike at General Motors, and deliveries would not resume until April 1946. The third group made up a block from 6301 to 6308, and those from the 6400's would also be transferred to LAMC in early 1949, but would return to LATL with the dissolution of LAMC in May 1949. Eventually, all would be regrouped in the 6200-6399 series with returnees filling in number gaps.
Also, the reader of this list will note that there are only 5 instances of numbers in serial order. A number of reasons have been theorized regarding this. An interview with one of the sources consulted for this listed noted that when the first of the LARy buses arrived in 1945, they were immediately placed in service, in grey primer paint, with fleet numbers chalked on, apparently in no particular order (unlike situations later encountered in New York City, Minneapolis/St. Paul, and Philadelphia, where fleet numbers were pre-blocked by operating units, and small numbers were assigned to each facility at once to show off new buses). Considering the time of arrival, it may be understandable; World War II-related traffic was still at a high level, and the new operator, LATL, was in need for transit vehicles, so the first buses were immediately placed in service, after a possible cursory inspection. Curiously, this continued into the later orders of TD4506's delivered to LATL. -- MTG/082701.

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