Little drops of water,
Thus the little minutes -
Born Before 1700 TALLEDY, Stephen is found in the Rye Township, Westchester County, New York He is listed in listed in the book Chronicles of a Border Town: History of Rye, Westchester County, New York, 1660-1870, including Harrison and the White Plains Till 1788 by Charles W. Baird. This book was published in 1871 in New York by Anson D.F. Randolph and Company. The entry for Talledy is found on page 492 and reads as follows:
"Talledy, Steven, was of Rye in 1718, when the proprietors of Peningo Neck 'for their goodwill to' him, give 'him 1 acre 1 rood north of Nathan Kniffen's field'. John Tallady, witness in 1740. "
TALADY, Bartolomew fought in the French and Indian War between 1755 - 1763
Veterans of The American Revolutionary War
1757 TALLIDAY, Stephen is born in Rombout Ridge, Dutchess County New York, according to "The Settlers of Beekman Patent, Volume II of the American Revoutionary War" page 515. In this record of 1777 Stephen is described as 20 years old, 5' 11" with brown hair and grey eyes. From the book, during the war, " providing enough food for the troops was a constant problem." On several ocassions the Beekman Grist Mills provided the men with their food - casks of flour. On 10 Jan 1777 Stephen deserted from Capt. Thomas Lee's company in Col. Lewis Dubois's regiment quartered at Fishkill with Solomon. After his service in the Continenetals, Stephen joined the Queen's Rangers. It is not known wether or not he did so as a spy for the Continental's like John or as a Loyalist. All we know is that Stephen is listed in the "Muster Rolls of Captain David Shank's Company, Queen's Rangers, J. Graves Esq., Lieutenant Colonel Commandant from October 25 1779 to December 1779" as a Corporal who sustained fatal wounds and died 23 Nov 1779 at the age of 22.
- TALLIDAY Stephen
- TALLADAY, Solomon
- TALLADAY, John Thomas
- TALLYDAY, Henry
1758 TALLADAY, Solomon was born 16 February in the disputed territory of Connecticut, now part of New York. He is listed as a petitioner from Connecticut to Congress for the return of Lands in regards to the Yankee Pennamite Wars.
In his pension application, he listed his place of birth as Oswego Township, which is part of the Beekman Patent in Dutchess County, NY. Solomon was attached to the Continental Lines 5th Regiment of Captain Thomas Lee's Company under Colonel Louis du Bois's Regiment. In his pension application he states he entered service in April of the year Fort Montomgomery was built in the Hudson River Valley presummed to be in 1776. He served for a period of nine months, then "his term of enlistment having expired was dicharged from the said service at Fort Montgomery." For a glimpse into the past read an extract of GAZETTEER OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK by J. H. French Published by R. Pearsall Smith Syracuse, N.Y. 1860
In his petition for pension Solomon TALADAY stated he was at the Battle of Brandywine on September 11, 1777 in which he was shot through the left thigh. Now he doesn't actually say it and without his actual military records in front of me I can't contradict it - All I can go by is the photocopies of pages from a book "Loyalists in the Southern Campaign, Volume II: The Queen's Rangers" that lists Private Solomon TOLLADAY was indeed wounded and was laying on a Loyalist Hospital Ship attached and reflected in the "Muster Rolls of Captain John McGill's Company, late Captain John MacKay's Company, Queen's Rangers J. Graves Simcoe, Esq., Major Commandant from August 25 through November 24, 1777.
Further research in the "New York Line" page 515 states Solomon TALLIDAY deserted January 10, 1777 along with Stephen TALLIDAY from Captain Thomas Lee's Company in Colonel Louis DuBois Regiment while quartered at Fishkill. Solomon is listed as about the same age as Stephen, with grey eyes, light complexion 5" 11" tall, born in Oswego. A $5.00 reward was offered for their capture. This confirms that Solomon was in fact in the Continental's and we can take him at his word that he entered service in April of 1776. Now if we count 9 months forward - bingo - we have January of 1777 when the desertion charge was made. So, was he a spy as John was? Or, did he join the Loyalists? If his 9 month enlistment was up - why then was he charged with desertion? Which side was he on in the Battle of Brandywine when he was wounded? Only his military records can tell us.
Solomon also cited service at the Battle of Monmouth in June of 1778 in which he broke his left arm and later in the Battle of Hog Back Hill under the command of General Sullivan Tweed , but I have not had the time to research these battles and it would only serve to pose more questions that I cannot answer without his actual military records.
The American Revolutionary Soldiers in Bradford County Pennsylvania site also has some records on Solomon .
In 1763, TALLADAY, John Thomas is born in October in New York according to "The Boston Transcript" the DAR, NSDAR and his pension application.
1776-1781 John Thomas served in the Company B 50th New York Rangers under Capt. Samuel Bowman and Capt. James Harrison. John served from 1776 to 1781 according to his pay records. He was only 13 when he first entered service in the 2nd New York Regiment. Being so young his inital duty was tending the sick. John later served in Colonel Lewis Du Boys 5th New York Regiment till sometime in July of 1781 when he received a discharge to go home and help his father with the "reapings." Unfortunately when he got home there were no crops to harvest. The families home had been destroyed, burned to the ground by the British and Loyalists. Historical accounts of the region support his pension application statement that the family home was burned and with the home went the family bible and the rest of their belongings.
In 1788 John TALLIDAY drew a military lot in Pompey, Onondaga County, New York, "which was early settled by a number of soldiers and officers from Connecticut and Massachusetts." Under the treaty of 1788 the Onondagas ceded to the state of New York all their lands-excepting the Onondaga reservation and fishing and hunting rights; and the lands thus acquired and another tract lying west were under act of Congress, September 16th, 1776, and other legislation, set apart as bounty lands to soldiers of the Revolutionary war, and became known as the Military Tract. it included all the territory within the original county of Onondaga.
1790 Census Wysox District of Luzerne County, Pennsylvania page 78 lists John's parents: Father: Tallady, John Mother: Jemima and 4 of his siblings: a brother born in 1796, a brother born between 1774-1780 and two (2) sisters.
1795 The land John was granted for his military service is in the present town of La Fayette, NY is sold.
1796 Talliday, John listed among the settlers of the Wysox District in Bradford County, (formerly Luzerne County) , PA.
1800 Census Ulster Township, Luzerne County Pennsylvania lists both father and son:
Roll M32-39 Page:213B Line: 22
His Father TALLIDAY, JOHN SR. Code: 01101 00001.
John Sr., and his mother Jemima (LSU) are listed as over 45 placing their births before 1755.
Son 10-16 born between 1784-1790
Son 16-26 born 1774-1770
Roll M32-39 Page: 213A Line: 13 TALLIDAY, John Thomas (the American Revolutionary War soldier) Code: 20010 00010. John and Mary STROPE are listed as aged 26-45.
This is the John listed in the "Boston Transcript" as being born 1763 and having fought in the American Revolution. In 1800 he would be 37 years old. Mary born in 1766 is now 34.
Two (2) sons under 10 born between 1790-1800.
Son John born in 1796
Son Solomon born 1799
1812 Tax Table Wysox Township, Bradford County Pennsylvania lists Talladay, John
1820 Census Wayne Township, Fayette County Ohio page 114 / 20 B - 21A Code 123301-12010: TOLLADAY Taladay, John Thomas and wife Mary STROPE.
John is aged over 45 placing his birth before 1775 (He is 57 now).
Mary is aged 26-45 placing her birth between 1775 and 1794 (Mary is 54 now).
The family is now fourteen (14) strong.
1 male under 10 born 1810-1820 UNKNOWN
2 males age 10-16 born 1804-1810 (Stephen born 1806, Fleming born 1807 or 1808)br> 3 males age 16-18 born 1802-1804 UNKNOWN
3 males age 18-26 born 1794-1802 ( John born 1796, Solomon born 1799, and UNKNOWN)
1 female under 10 born 1810-1820 (Mary)
2 females age 10-16 born 1804-1810 (Phebe and Lydia)
Son Samuel and Son William fit in the above but I've no exact dates yet.
1830 Wayne Township, Fayette County Ohio page 329- 330: Code: 000020001-00012001
TALDY John Thomas is listed 60-70 born 1760-1770.
Wife is 50-60 born 1770-1780.
5 children are at home:
2 males age 20-30 born 1800-1810 (Stephen and Fleming)
1 female age 15-20 born 1810-1815 (Mary)
2 females age 20-30 born 1800-1810 (Phebe and Lydia)
See marriage recordsfor the family marriages between 1820 and 1830
1830 His children begin to appear listed in the census records with him: Son in Range Township, Madison County Ohio page 108 Code: 100011-200101 named Solomon born 1799 with Wife Elizabeth EVANS born 1797 with 3 Children : Mary he(named for Solomon's mother Mary STROPE) b. 1826, Nancy (named for Elizabeth Evans mother Nancy EVANS) b. 1828, Andrew Jackson (named for the President) b. 1830.
In Concord, Ross County page 243 Code 00001-10001 Son John and his wife Mary KEARL/CURL have one (1) daughter under fine (5) years of age.
In 1832 John Thomas TALDAY filed for pension in Bloomington, McLean County, Illinois, two years after settling in "Old Town Timbers".
1840 TOLDAY, John Thomas has moved even farther out onto the western frontier, to the place he would find his final rest; Old Town Timbers, McLean County Illinois. His name is on page 31 and oh my - would you look at that - for the first time our name is spelled the way our English ancestors spell it TOLLADAY. He has five (5) children still living at home: Lydia, William, Samuel and Clarke Code: 100110001-00010001
He is now listed as aged 60-70 placing birth 1770-1780. His wife Mary STROPE is now aged 50-60 born 1780-1790.
Children still at home:
1 male under 5 born 1835-1840
1 male 15-20 born 1820-1825
1 male 20-30 born 1810-1820
1 female aged 15-20 born 1820-1825
Elder Children now married and living nearby include:
1840 Census Old Town Timbers, McLean County Illinois page 255 Code: 1200001-101001
Son John is aged 40-50 born 1790-1800, his Wife Mary KEARL/CURL aged 30-40 born 1800-1810. Five (5) Children: 1 male under 5 born 1835-1840, 2 males 5-10 born 1830-1835, 1 female under 5 born 1835-1840, 1 female 10-15 born 1825-1830
1840 Livingston County Missouri page 263 Code 12100100001-101101 Son, Talliday, Solomon
His Family Composition: Solomon born 1799. Wife Elizabeth EVANS born 1796-1803 and unidentified elder aged 80-90 born 1750-1760 that could be John Thomas TOLLADAY. If your wondering why he could be in two places at once. He couldn't -The census were taken months apart.
Solomon and Elizabeth's children:
Mary born 1826
Nancy born 1828
Andrew Jackson born 1830,
John born 1832,
Isaac born 1835,
William Jackson born 1837
Lemuel Evan born 1838,
Zetta Anita born 1839.
TOLIDAY, John Thomas died about 1849 and is buried in the Oak Grove Cemetery near the present day town of Le Roy, McLean County Illinois. John's name ( TOLLIDAY) is engraved in a bronze plaque at the "Soldiers Monument, Miller Park, Bloomington, Illinois. There are errors in this online transcription. The original documents do not have the 1781 - 1782 dates. It was assumed by someone doing the transcription that he was 18 when he entered service. He was in fact 13.
1850 Census has the children of John Tolladay begin to scatter. For example:
Buckle Grove McLean County Illinois Family #1884 Line 3 Page 113 lists TOLIDA, John as twelve (12) years old born 1838. He is living in the household of Hiram BUCK.
Military Pay Records
Sweet's New Atlas of Onondaga Co., New York. NY: Walker Bros. & Co., 1874, pp. 12-12a.
Dwight C. Bruce (ed.), Onondaga's Centennial. Boston History Co., 1896, Vol. 1, pp. 147-1 52.
Pioneer Times in the Onondaga Country, by Carroll E. Smith, LL.D., C. W. Bardeen, Publisher, Syracuse, NY, 1904, pp. 195-198.
TALLYDAY, Henry served in the 11th Regiment Militia formed in Coxsackie, Albany County New York for a Land Bounty Grant. This area of New York is now in Greene County. Source: New York in the Revolution as Colony and State by James A. Roberts
Some believe John and Solomon were brothers. There is Stephen that no-one seems to claim and Henry is also found to have served in the Militia. And then there is Henry. It's possible that Henry served to protect Coxsackie in then Albany County, now part of Greene County and the regions surrounding it, which would include Catskill. Stephen died during the war - which explains why no-one claims him. He may had never married or had children. His name was carried on though - throughout the family.
According to this timeline the Patriarch of our family would have to have been born in the 1730's, placing him in his late twenties when Stephen, John and Solomon are born, in his 30's when Polly is born, and in his 40's when Althea is born.
Family by known birth year:
1757 TALLIDAY, Stephen is born
1758 TALLADAY, Solomon born 16 February in disputed territory of Connecticut
1760 TALLIDAY, Thomas is born in New York
1763 TALLADAY, John Thomas is born in October in New York
1764 TALLIDAY, Abraham is born in New York
1766 TALLADAY, Charles is born in New York
1769 TALLADAY, Polly was born in New York . She married John Northrup.
1774 TALLADAY, Althea was born in New York. She married James Northrup.
Other Online sites with Data: Dutchess County, New York Map
1790 Beekman Twp. Dutchess Co, NY Census:
TALLADY, Thomas is on page 59 - is married with 2 sons, 3 daughters so he's been married for about 10 years placing his birth about 20 years earlier or about 1760.
TALLIDAY, Abraham is on page 61 - is married with 1 son 1 daughter born between 1784-1790.
TALLADAY, Charles is on page 74 - is married with 1 daughter .
If that link is down try a mirror site.
To begin researching in Bradford County Pennsylvania its important to be familiar with the area. Here is a map. The earliest towns where we find our ancestors are Towanda, Ulster and Wysox .
1795 TALADY, Henry , upon returning from a hunting expedition near Bear Creek with a wolf in hand meets Rome's first settler Nathaniel Moody and his wife. Rome is in Bradford County, Pennsylvania. Clad in Buckskins, Our Henry is at first mistaken for a native. This link captures time for us - to see what life was like for our Pennsylvania ancestors.
1795 TALADAY, John sells his land; a military tract, in the Town of Pompey, Onondaga County New York to S. Smith. Land data: (1CF,591) lot 81. The town of Pompey originally included the towns of Fabius, Preble, Scott and Tully, and parts of Cuyler, LaFayette, Onondaga, Otisco, Spafford, and Truxton. As I mentioned above, the land John owned was is present day Lafayette.
1799 TALADY, Solomon is born in PA. He is the second son of John the American Revolutionary War Veteran.
1814 Talledy, Thomas is in the War of 1812. Reference: Swift's and Dobin's Regiment New York, Private Roll 204:602 This record should provide us with further information on Thomas such as birthdate, wife and lineage.
TALLADA, Stephen and TALLADA Thomas didn't think to much of the Patriots War- 1835 to 1846. The Buffalo Barracks Roster in Niagra New York has both of their names listed. They deserted. Stephen got away. Thomas however was caught, underwent a court martial, deserted again, was apprehended and then finally discharged on May 15, 1841. It definitely was not the same kind of war their ancestors had fought. The link above has detailed physical descriptions of them as well as their ages and place of birth. According to this record they were born about 1807-1808
1839 TALLADAY, Solomon of the American Revolution died. He was buried with military honors in the Old Riverside Cemetery, Athens, Bradford County, PA. It is said, he held an agreement with an old friend from the war; Archelaus Luce Temple. Whoever survived longest agreed to fire a volley over the others grave to remind others of the shot heard round the world. In 1832, the day Solomon buried his old friend Archy Temple, he did just that. When Solomon died, he was buried next to Archelaus "Archy" Friends for life and beyond. He was noted in life , "for his athletic powers, and lived on Millstone Run for a time." Solomon and Chloe lived in Towanda Twp. and Wysox Twp after the Revolutionary war. According to the census they had 8 children. Many of the names are missing
Locating the area today (where Solomon was born) we have to look in three states and several counties. Some records indicate our ancestors lived in Connecticut. Others say Albany, Greene, Ulster and Dutchess Counties of New York. According to the Hugenot Society he was offically born in Hopewell Township, Dutchess County New York. Other sources list Bradford and Luzerne Counties in Pennsylvania including "DAR Lineage Books", "Pioneer and Patriot Families of Bradford Co.,PA" and the Pennsylvania Pensioners List of 1835. All have claimed Solomon as a son of their state. Since the borders changed so frequently with county establishment and state admittance in the early years of America, its important to note and search in all three states.
1873 TALLIDAY, Tom died in February .
According to an obituary on page 129 of "AN OUTLINE HISTORY of Tioga and Bradford Counties in Pennsylvania, Chemung, Steuben, Tioga, Tompkins and Schuyler in New York by TOWNSHIPS, VILLAGES, BORO'S AND CITIES", written expressly for the Gazette Company, ELMIRA, N.Y. Copyright, 1885 by The Gazette Company. The obituary from Elmira New York says Thomas died when he was about 70 years old. In life he apparently gained himself a nickname. His death notice states he was "better known as "all right and "all wrong". Cornell University's Making of America has digitally scanned a journal that includes a mention and portrait of Thomas. The journal is Scribners monthly, an illustrated magazine for the people. Volume 4, Issue 2 Publisher: Scribner and son. Publication Date: June 1872 City: New York. The article is" Traveling by Telegraph, Northward to Niagara, by James Richardson: pp. 129-157 The portrait is on page 142 and the mention of his "all rights and all wrongs" is on pp. 145-146.
Some of the TOLLADAY family chose to stay in Indiana. You'll find them here in the 1850 Elkhart Indiana Censusand the 1820 Census Records. They also fought in the Civil War and you can see the 1860's Indiana Civil War Soldiers list has Laban Leeman TOLLADA, who moved to Texas after the Civil War.
Joyce Tice has developed an incredible, informative site for the The Tri- Counties! Genealogists if you'd like to do further research on the first Tolladay's in America - this is the area you'll want to start in.
If your interested Dutchess County Genealogical Society has more information and links to resources about the history of our New York roots.
Contribute your resources. This page is a work in progress. As I receive new information, clues or sources, the page will change. Please check back often. You will notice as you read through the page - there are numerous variations on how our surname is spelled. To date I have found more than 4 dozen! All these due to the good intentioned census takers phonetic spelling and to some degree - illiteracy. They will appear in this page as they appeared on the document found. Approximate birthdates are based on records from the Daughters of the Revolution, NSDAR, Pensioners lists, and numerous historical archives. Also taken into account are their ages and the number of children they had in each known census.
Oral history from family members across the nation all seem to relate the same story. Two brothers came to America together - the only TOLLADAY's to come to America - that is until Gloria's branch of the family came to America in the mid 1800's. The Quest is to find them.
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