From: michael pappie <pappie@telegram.infi.net>

A short while ago Mike M. relayed how back in '75 Stewart was into
charting growth projections and said that within X years Cobu would be
well into the millions.  I remember those meetings. I also remember that
at the time going to Europe was a topic of conversation..limited, but it
was discussed.  Even to the point of discussing which countries we
should go to first!  England?..or France maybe?  This didn't get alot of
real play, but it was talked about. I want to say a couple of things
about Haiti,..specfically how and in what manner it was presented to the
fellowship and the way it was introduced.  I was at the meeting in NY
when this was annouced..by way of proclamation.. that we were going to
Haiti.  In essence, we were TOLD that we were going to Haiti(!) Stewart
never approched the fellowship and said..Well brothers and sisters, how
do you feel about going to Haiti? Or..I've been thinking it over and
here are some good reasons why I feel we as a fellowship should consider
beginning a work in Haiti and I'd like your thoughts in the matter. No
councel was sought from the fellowship collectively as a whole. The
matter was not up for discussion! It had been decided and that was
that!  I'd like to share with you a Tale of Two Missions.  Of course the
Haiti/Cobu story we all know..,BUT!.., I would like to compare Stewart's
work in Haiti with another man named George DeTellis.  George and his
wife Jean are from Worcester, Massachusetts. My wife and I have met both
George and Jean personally. George is from a small church here in
Worcester. In 1980 the DeTellis' went down to begin a mission in Haiti
just outside of Port au Prince. They went down with almost next to no
money, actually later in time than Stewart went down. Today they are
responsible for building and staffing 19 elementary schools!  They also
have built a high school that is attended by more than 500 students!
More than a hundred students attend their Bible and Business College.
They have erected 43 buildings, including a clinic which provides health
care to people from 57 surrounding villages! They have established 10
churches where Haitian pastors are preaching the Gospel. Now the kick
here is that George and Jean went down with almost no money and even
later in time than Stewart and look at the comparison between the two
works..Draw your own conclusions! For those interested, the DeTellis'
website is: www.newmissions.org     (Changing subjects)  A quick note to
Beverly Diehl.  Bev, I remember awhile back you had written that it was
you who was actually responsible for the Good Shepard tract(the picture
of Jesus holding the lamb in his arm with the shepards staff) I was at
this meeting when Stewart showed this tract to the fellowhship and
passed it off as his own creation. I also remember HOW he presented it
to the fellowship..after holding it proudly up for display he
caustically said to the fellowhship.."Even you can't mess this one up".
But regarding the picture itself , I thought it was beautiful,..I still
do..nice work Bev.
In Christ, Mike Pappie
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From: Herman M Weiss <hmweiss@juno.com>

Mike P., I can vouch for that too. ST just declared we're going to Haiti
without even
asking the membership. What I like to know is what is ST's real purpose
in COBU
being there, other than what he advertises on COBU's Haiti site. Can
anyone shed
some light on this subject. Maybe some of the people that were there.
Herm Weiss

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From: NILin86030@aol.com

Did you ever think that despite the poverty, Haiti has beautiful beaches for
ST & Gayle to vacation, not to mention the need for them to stop in FL on the
way down for a few days.  What kind of recreation would be available say in
the Appalachians for them?
Nancy Lin
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From: "Diana Clarke" <fiddleydee@hotmail.com>

I always loved that picture of Jesus holding the lambs in his arms too!,,,I
found a beautiful screensaver , that includes that very same picture..and
you can use it as your windows "wallpaper too!..If you'd like a beautiful
screensaver, go here;

http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=000Z18&b=

Blessings!
Diana.
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From: Tom Pierron <tpierron@Op.Net>
 

I'm reading after work.  No one else is probably up now.
Otherwise someone else would have written already.
Haiti was not "forced" on us.  We had a few meetings.
There was one where we went over all the "Blessed is he
who considers the poor" verses and stuff like that.  And ST was asking
what we were going to do with all the money we were making
in Christian Brothers?
Then he brought up we should help cases of "urgent need".
Then when we decided we should do a work somewhere with
the money we were making, the question was where.  And we
thought of all the places where people were starving and then he said
"What about rescuing and developing Haiti?"  And he went on to tell
us about the abject poverty there, and how, it's very close and accessible
to us also - so what about there?
So we were "seduced" into what he had probably already decided, just
like the name change.  I was at that meeting.  We go round and round
for an hour or two suggesting new names.  Then he comes up with
"What about the Church of Bible Understanding"  And the rest, as they
say, is history.  We all know, if a vote didn't go like he wanted, he would
say, "Wait a minute" and on with his manipulation....
But Haiti was introduced slowly and methodically.
(Why didn't we decide to go to Appalachia?)

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From: Beverly Diehl <bevsfun@earthlink.net>
 
 

michael pappie wrote:

> From: michael pappie <pappie@telegram.infi.net>
>
> (Changing subjects)  A quick note to
> Beverly Diehl.  Bev, I remember awhile back you had written that it was
> you who was actually responsible for the Good Shepard tract(the picture
> of Jesus holding the lamb in his arm with the shepards staff) I was at
> this meeting when Stewart showed this tract to the fellowhship and
> passed it off as his own creation.

Technically, one could say it was his creation - I may have made the
suggestion for the picture, a tiny scared little voice in the crowd, but
Stewart was the one who listened to the tape or other input later and made
the decision to go with it, instead of the dripping-with-blood-Jesus he had
originally proposed.  And HE wrote all the marvelous text (which, reviewing
a few weeks ago, I found not nearly as deep and insightful as I had thought
when it came out.)

The reason I mentioned it wasn't to stand up and demand recognition, though,
but to point out that there are a lot of us who during our time in the
FF/COBU did certain works or said certain things or had certain ideas that,
at the time, we were CERTAIN were 'inspired by the Holy Spirit.'  Now...?

I still haven't figured it if it will be accounted to me as a good deed, for
bringing people into COBU, or a bad deed, for the exact same reason.

> I also remember HOW he presented it
> to the fellowship..after holding it proudly up for display he
> caustically said to the fellowhship.."Even you can't mess this one up".
> But regarding the picture itself , I thought it was beautiful,..I still
> do..nice work Bev.

Well, I don't want to be ungracious, though your compliment makes me feel
uncomfortable.  Gulp, gulp, thank you, Mike.  I do still like that picture,
myself.

> In Christ, Mike Pappie

--

- Beverly

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The airplane crash wouldn't cost the fellowship a thing......  interesting....    but did he pay the cost of the plane back to the fellowship?  Probably NOT!

Love life and live,
Carol Stutts
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From: Jeff Benninger <jeffBenninger@compuserve.com>

Carol,
Stewart crashed the church helicopter years ago before he crashed the
Airplane. Also the FAA  revoked Stewarts pilots license after the crash. I
remember he told us that he forgot to put down the landing gear, this guy
is really on a roll . told us at a meeting that you get forgetful as you
get older.
he also said that the cable snapped on the helicopter tha goes to the tail
but who knows crashed a copter and a plane .

Jeff B
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From: Herman M Weiss <hmweiss@juno.com>

Hey Jeff, you forgot he crashed a fellowship too. LOL!!!            Herm
Weiss
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From: Tom Pierron <tpierron@Op.Net>

> From: Jeff Benninger <jeffBenninger@compuserve.com>
> he also said that the cable snapped on the helicopter tha goes to the tail
> but who knows crashed a copter and a plane .

I remember after the helicopter crash he said that a chain is only as strong
as its weakest link, and therefore he was going to build up the weak in
the fellowship.  I was very encourage and took heart, knowing that I
fell in that category.  Only thing is, though,
It never happened.  That was one nail in the coffin.
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From: Tom Pierron <tpierron@Op.Net>
 
 
 

> From: Herman M Weiss <hmweiss@juno.com>
>
> Hey Jeff, you forgot he crashed a fellowship too. LOL!!!            Herm
> Weiss

I'm laughing but it isn't funny.  Doesn't comedy have a lot to do with
tragedy?
Anyway - good wit!
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From: cooganjd@juno.com

Well, ya know if you can always get another one where that came from, ya
tend to just use it up and not care... those of us with kids will
understand that as a principle of human nature that ST didn't have to
point out, that we Moms have to teach about daily... And forgetful as you
get older... hmmm just how old is the geezer now?
Nancy C.
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From: "Owen D Camp" <DOCOC@prodigy.net>

From:  Owen
        Dear N
       He was born in 1936.  So he turns 63 this year.
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From: JThomas945@aol.com

>From John Thomas
I remember the diplomat meeting when Nancy Colgan and I got smashed for
questioning the purchase of this helicopter.  ST had said the week before
that for various reasons, the helicopter would be impractical.  The next
week, he said they were in the process of the purchase.  Nancy C. asked about
the previous concerns, (boldly, I might add); ST attacked her and then I
proceeded to question the same and you guessed it: "El Cabong" ala Quickdraw
McGraw.
How often we knew we were being bamboozled and said nothing.  Thanks for
being bold Nancy.

In Christ,
JT

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St. used to call Haiti the conscience of the fellowship.  Could it be that it was his way to avoid guilt over turning us all into his personal slaves?
Love life and live,
Carol Stutts
 
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No, that was his way of making us feel guilty if we wouldn't
serve him as slaves.
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