[02/21/2010]
00:11 [Bootylyshis]: hey man
00:12 [Kaotsetung]: yessir? 00:12 [Bootylyshis]: i'm gonna pass on saturdays icc run 00:12 [Kaotsetung]: you mean SUnday? 00:12 [Bootylyshis]: today was pretty bad 00:12 [Bootylyshis]: no i mean doing our icc on saturdays to start 00:13 [Kaotsetung]: well today was bad because of wrong people on. 00:13 [Bootylyshis]: there were alts and stuff in on progression runs, add control was pretty much non-existant 00:13 [Bootylyshis]: ok, if our regular group is on for saturday, i have no problem 00:14 [Bootylyshis]: but people need to use their mains if there alts have no business in 10m icc 00:14 [Kaotsetung]: it will usually be mains. but, just like the day you didn't have your authenticor and the day you were late, the group had to try to make do with what ot had 00:14 [Kaotsetung]: I agree about alts. 00:15 [Kaotsetung]: But when people who sign up aren't here for whatever reason, using someone in an offspec (as tonight) or using an alt is about the only option. 00:15 [Bootylyshis]: the healers had to be brought in. they were ok 00:15 [Kaotsetung]: Had 1 of 3 healers on tonight. 00:15 [Bootylyshis]: but utu's alt did like 2.5k dps, and we asked him to switch to try to kill ldw and he said he wanted to stay on his mage 00:16 [Kaotsetung]: That shouldn't have happened 00:16 [Kaotsetung]: but I was surprised that you guys even wanted to try LDW with only 1 main spec healer 00:16 [Bootylyshis]: we needed his lock for extra dps, we might have had a better chance at killing her isntead of 3 full spawns of adds up at a time 00:16 [Kaotsetung]: yeah, I agree 00:17 [Bootylyshis]: but with the makeup that we had, we should have waited 00:17 [Kaotsetung]: That was why I suggested you guys only do the weekly 00:17 [Bootylyshis]: how is lylia gonna feel about going in tomorrow with the first boss down already? 00:17 [Kaotsetung]: I don't think that will be an issue with her tbh 00:17 [Kaotsetung]: She's usually enough of a team player. 00:17 [Kaotsetung]: And she got the weekly on 25 00:18 [Bootylyshis]: not about the weekly 00:18 [Bootylyshis]: i doubt she needs anything from 10m marrowgar anyway 00:18 [Kaotsetung]: Well here's the thing. The whole objective is to get a 2nd group deep into ICC. 00:18 [Kaotsetung]: She's part of that 2nd group so the 1st boss being dead won't impact her much at all. 00:19 [Bootylyshis]: nah, not for her 00:19 [Kaotsetung]: So long as we can actually field a full, regular group 00:19 [Bootylyshis]: that's fine 00:19 [Bootylyshis]: i'm just sayin, tonight should have been a night to just say "hmm, let's just wait for the solid people" 00:20 [Kaotsetung]: yeah, that's why I suggested stopping after weekly boss was down. 00:20 [Kaotsetung]: But left it up to you guys 00:20 [Bootylyshis]: now i'm not gonna get into it too much, it's none of my business to tell people how to play their class, it's their business.....but we're struggling on the "deep into icc" part 00:20 [Bootylyshis]: as a tank, i'd just like to contribute my concirn 00:21 [Bootylyshis]: *concern 00:21 [Bootylyshis]: however lol 00:21 [Kaotsetung]: I want to hear your concerns always. 00:21 [Kaotsetung]: But here's my take on it. 00:21 [Bootylyshis]: that's my concern, nothing really too it. we need to start pushing some people 00:21 [Kaotsetung]: Every week it's been a"role player" that's been missing. 00:22 [Kaotsetung]: 1st week you couldn't get on. 00:22 [Kaotsetung]: Next week you were a little late and we were short a healer 00:22 [Kaotsetung]: last week, heals were short 00:22 [Kaotsetung]: this week missing 2 healers 00:22 [Bootylyshis]: maybe we should get some backups? 00:22 [Kaotsetung]: Working on it 00:23 [Kaotsetung]: Just grabbing 2 people and saying "heal this" is rough as you know 00:23 [Bootylyshis]: i bombed the first 2 raids, one i kinda had no control over, the other was my fault. but i've been to every other 10 man and have been in or available for every single 25m since i started 00:24 [Kaotsetung]: Yeah, I know. 00:24 [Kaotsetung]: Shit happens to all of us at one point or another. 00:25 [Kaotsetung]: But I recruited a 2nd tank for ICC and I'm talking to a couple of healers as well. 00:25 [Bootylyshis]: coolbeans 00:25 [Kaotsetung]: The issue a lot of folks have is they want guarantees for 25 raiding. 00:26 [Bootylyshis]: now i should be able to do next sunday's icc run, but i won't be available thursday through saturday. me and crankeh are going to a lan. i don't want to sign up and get hammered and leave you hanging 00:27 [Kaotsetung]: That's fine man. Just remind me you're going to be out. 00:27 [Bootylyshis]: mmk 00:28 [Bootylyshis]: but yeah man, the current status of our main 10m group is starting to worry me 00:28 [Kaotsetung]: It's Saturday. I'll have a few drinks between now and Thurs lol 00:28 [Kaotsetung]: the group Far runs? 00:28 [Bootylyshis]: i know there is a bunch of drama with some people, imma stay out of that 00:28 [Bootylyshis]: no, the group i run with you 00:29 [Kaotsetung]: If we can get 3 consistent healers for that group, it'll be fine. 00:29 [Bootylyshis]: i've been tanking since the day wrath came out 00:29 [Kaotsetung]: Weekends are rough for lylia with her kids 00:29 [Bootylyshis]: i can spot some lazy healers 00:29 [Bootylyshis]: it's the main healers i'm worried about 00:29 [Kaotsetung]: Esh and Kau? 00:29 [Bootylyshis]: more or less healer 00:30 [Bootylyshis]: no, kau is good, just not as consistant 00:30 [Kaotsetung]: Just give me a name lol 00:30 [Bootylyshis]: lylia has some bad healing man 00:30 [Bootylyshis]: it's just bad 00:30 [Bootylyshis]: i dont' wanna be mean 00:30 [Bootylyshis]: but this char right here can do better 00:30 [Kaotsetung]: Yeah, she's been dropping off badly over the past month 00:31 [Kaotsetung]: and I'm not really sure why. I knoa part of why in 25's. 00:31 [Kaotsetung]: but not so much in 10's 00:31 [Bootylyshis]: i watch the meters 00:31 [Bootylyshis]: she had some gear issues and stuff before, that's coming around 00:31 [Bootylyshis]: but the main thing that i see is that she's lazy 00:31 [Kaotsetung]: I'm curious why you say that? 00:32 [Kaotsetung]: and are you tlaking 25's? 00:32 [Bootylyshis]: both 00:33 [Bootylyshis]: i've healed in groups like our 25m before 00:33 [Kaotsetung]: Haven' looked at her 10 heals. Been looking closely at her 25's esp since her heal time has been low 00:33 [Bootylyshis]: there is no reason she should only be doing less than 20% healing 00:33 [Bootylyshis]: she's doing 10-15% 00:33 [Kaotsetung]: Actually there is. 00:34 [Kaotsetung]: her heal target in 25's has been overhealed by other healers. She hasn't been pushing heals on tank when he's at close to max health all the time 00:34 [Bootylyshis]: i don't understand 00:35 [Bootylyshis]: is she sharing a target? 00:35 [Kaotsetung]: no 00:35 [Kaotsetung]: well,not by assignment 00:35 [Kaotsetung]: but thta's what's been happening 00:35 [Bootylyshis]: then she should be healing the hell out of him 00:35 [Bootylyshis]: who else is healing her target more than her 00:36 [Kaotsetung]: Far's ebacon, Dray's chain 00:36 [Bootylyshis]: she's heaing a tank? 00:36 [Kaotsetung]: Lylia? yes 00:36 [Kaotsetung]: Far is on Skav, Lylia is on Marv, Esh is on Gorey and "floats" 00:37 [Bootylyshis]: well, i dunno about her, but a beacon never kept my target up enough to cut out my heals 00:37 [Bootylyshis]: but then again 00:37 [Kaotsetung]: Far uses that "huge heal" pally build 00:37 [Bootylyshis]: if a beacon and a chain heal are able to keep up a tank, then she should be healing someone else that is low on health 00:37 [Bootylyshis]: doesn't matter who, just pick a target 00:37 [Bootylyshis]: or... 00:37 [Kaotsetung]: they tlak about it in the link that far put on our forums 00:37 [Bootylyshis]: maybe you should look at replacing a healer with another dps 00:38 [Kaotsetung]: Well, here's what should be happening. Far should be beaconing Gorey and healing Skav 00:38 [Bootylyshis]: if their heals are enough to keep him up, then why not put in a dps? 00:38 [Kaotsetung]: at times we do 00:39 [Bootylyshis]: maybe we should do it more often 00:39 [Kaotsetung]: we had t find out why her healing time was so low 1st. 00:39 [Kaotsetung]: and didn't figure it out until Wed 00:39 [Bootylyshis]: but that's 25's, that's not my full area since i'm still on the edge of sat most times lol 00:39 [Bootylyshis]: let's talk about the 10m's where it's my game lifeblood on the line 00:40 [Kaotsetung]: Want my honest opinion on the 10? 00:40 [Bootylyshis]: always 00:40 [Kaotsetung]: We still haven't really had a "full" 10 group yet. At this point we can't really say much about it because I have yet to get the 2 tanks and 3 healers I want in there even once. 00:41 [Bootylyshis]: me and augustus rock the tank house, you're in good hands here 00:41 [Kaotsetung]: Until we can put those 5 people into the instance at the same time for the 1st time, it's not doing any good to play with the makeup. 00:41 [Bootylyshis]: esh, kau and lylia aren't the tanks you want? 00:41 [Kaotsetung]: they're the healers I want 00:42 [Kaotsetung]: we just haven't fielded them plus the 2 of you tnaks together yet 00:42 [Bootylyshis]: well i got an example for you 00:42 [Bootylyshis]: last night in the uld hm we did 00:42 [Kaotsetung]: I was hoping that this week we'd get you 5 together and plug in DPS 00:43 [Bootylyshis]: we were doing iron council with just kau and lylia healing 00:43 [Bootylyshis]: which, tbh, should have been overkill 00:44 [Bootylyshis]: kau, cracka and utu died at times they had no business dying 00:44 [Kaotsetung]: I don't heal. 2 healers for 3 tanks plus raid damage? 00:44 [Bootylyshis]: 2 tanks 00:44 [Bootylyshis]: me and sutha were tanking 00:44 [Bootylyshis]: sutha is plenty geared for it, i'm way over geared for it, so was the rest of the raid 00:45 [Kaotsetung]: 2 tanks on 10 man council? 00:45 [Bootylyshis]: yup 00:45 [Kaotsetung]: kk 00:45 [Bootylyshis]: well check it out.... 00:45 [Bootylyshis]: we got close several times into the 3rd phase 00:45 [Bootylyshis]: the one time kau died, bogart stepped up and was healing raid and me and sutha while he br'd kau 00:46 [Kaotsetung]: k 00:46 [Bootylyshis]: did a f'in great job 00:46 [Bootylyshis]: so we said hey, we have enough dps, let's have bogart be a 3rd healer to help out 00:46 [Bootylyshis]: so that's how it was 00:46 [Bootylyshis]: next thing ya know, i'm dying while still killing the 2nd guy 00:46 [Bootylyshis]: several times 00:46 [Bootylyshis]: we finally called it as a loss and dropped group, i checked my meters 00:47 [Kaotsetung]: k 00:47 [Bootylyshis]: lylia went from doing some ok healing to doing damn near 8% 00:47 [Bootylyshis]: she was MY healing, i was her only target 00:47 [Bootylyshis]: bogart and kau did raid and sutha 00:47 [Bootylyshis]: i had cd's popped 00:47 [Bootylyshis]: dropped dead 00:47 [Bootylyshis]: there's no reason for that and it was pissing a lot of people off. 00:48 [Kaotsetung]: Doesn't make sense n the surface that's for sure. 00:48 [Kaotsetung]: I'll have a look at the report and see what I can dig up. if we need to replace her then we need to replace her 00:50 [Bootylyshis]: thank you for listening man 00:50 [Kaotsetung]: always willing to 00:50 [Bootylyshis]: sorry if i got a lil abrasive, it's just worrying me. i want to do good 00:50 [Bootylyshis]: and, well, we're not 00:51 [Kaotsetung]: a little abrasive is ok 00:51 [Kaotsetung]: at times 00:51 [Bootylyshis]: it's just bothersom that the same people every raid are keeping us from progressing 00:51 [Kaotsetung]: 25's? 00:51 [Bootylyshis]: yeah, 25's 00:51 [Bootylyshis]: and 10's 00:52 [Kaotsetung]: Here's what I'll say about 25's. And I had this discussion yesterday afternoon lol 00:52 [Kaotsetung]: Someone came to me about how "the same people" keep screwing it up for everyone. 00:52 [Kaotsetung]: And I said, fair enough.. tell me who. 00:53 [Kaotsetung]: and they named a name and talked about "low dps" 00:53 [Kaotsetung]: then I took them inot the report where the "low dps" person had a debuff 5 times longer than anyone else in the raid 00:53 [Kaotsetung]: Want my take on our issue with 25's? 00:54 [Bootylyshis]: always 00:54 [Kaotsetung]: we have about 6 people that are performing at near 100% on all attempts. 00:54 [Kaotsetung]: Some of those 6 blame our failures on "the same people over and over" 00:55 [Kaotsetung]: but we have 19 people that are half coasting on some attmepts 00:55 [Kaotsetung]: here's an example 00:55 [Kaotsetung]: "How did I get cleaved? I was behind him" 00:55 [Kaotsetung]: now this is from a caster mind you 00:55 [Kaotsetung]: my 1st responses were: 00:56 [Kaotsetung]: a) If he cleaved you then you weren't bhind him, so quit bullshitting 00:56 [Kaotsetung]: b) You're a caster, why are you so damned close? 00:56 [Bootylyshis]: i agree 00:56 [Kaotsetung]: c) Do you really think that I'm going to fall for the "bitch about how the fight was broken" defense to cover your stupidity? 00:57 [Kaotsetung]: now for the best part.... 00:57 [Kaotsetung]: the person who said all that wasn't Utu 00:57 [Kaotsetung]: but someone who rags on him all the time and tlaks about how he "holds back the guild" 00:57 [Bootylyshis]: hey now...i haven't mentioned utu's name yet lol 00:57 [Kaotsetung]: lol 00:57 [Bootylyshis]: don't judge me :p 00:58 [Kaotsetung]: I'm not 00:59 [Bootylyshis]: but while we're on the subject, he could use some work 00:59 [Bootylyshis]: and no, i'm not talking about hte princes fight 00:59 [Kaotsetung]: he could. I talk to him every day 00:59 [Bootylyshis]: that shit is hard, i totally agree, i have no beef with him doing that the other day 00:59 [Kaotsetung]: Eh, that princess fight is annoying as hell 00:59 [Bootylyshis]: yeah it is 00:59 [Kaotsetung]: This is just my opinion but we should have been using a tank on that all along 01:00 [Kaotsetung]: Remeber the 10 where I told you to do it? 01:00 [Bootylyshis]: in our 10m, i remember when someone hit the trap for the guys in front of putricide 01:00 [Bootylyshis]: i was ready with a dnd and grabbed them, utu was in the back of the raid and he just dropped dead after just joining the raid 30 seconds prior 01:00 [Bootylyshis]: wtf lol 01:01 [Kaotsetung]: lol 01:01 [Kaotsetung]: he lives more lately.. now to get him to focus on his rotation 01:02 [Kaotsetung]: If I could get him to do that and tenzi to not divulge every detail of his day 01:02 [Bootylyshis]: i'm starting to get the hang of my dps, the more i do, the more i pull away from him in 25m's 01:02 [Kaotsetung]: yep 01:02 [Bootylyshis]: now, i'm not gonna bitch.. 01:02 [Kaotsetung]: locks are kind of screwed in some ways tho 01:02 [Bootylyshis]: but the way i would see it is, if someone needs to be sat, it would usually be the lower dps's 01:03 [Kaotsetung]: sometimes 01:03 [Kaotsetung]: it depends on utility some too 01:03 [Kaotsetung]: Cylar is low DPS but he's the only replen we have 01:04 [Kaotsetung]: My DPS is about to drop considerably but I picked up replen also 01:04 [Bootylyshis]: cylar can pump it out, i've seen him above me plenty 01:04 [Kaotsetung]: because Far is going oom 01:04 [Bootylyshis]: while tenzi is extremely annoying, he does do decent dps 01:04 [Bootylyshis]: very decent 01:04 [Kaotsetung]: but he's also "twitchy" 01:04 [Bootylyshis]: now to get him to stay away from the raid...... lol 01:05 [Kaotsetung]: him on Rot is a healer's nightmare 01:05 [Bootylyshis]: LMAO 01:05 [Kaotsetung]: and has been known to kill a couple of raid members as well 01:05 [Kaotsetung]: heres my point before I todle off to bed 01:05 [Bootylyshis]: on princes', i wanted to strangle him for standing int he middle of the stage where we were all running to 01:06 [Kaotsetung]: lol 01:06 [Kaotsetung]: During a given raid, there are between 15-21 people that are half assing it at any goven time 01:06 [Kaotsetung]: Some on purpose, some cuz they aren't "up to speed" 01:06 [Bootylyshis]: do they all know they are causing issues 01:07 [Kaotsetung]: Pound, some of them are the people who bitch about "the same people holding us back" 01:07 [Bootylyshis]: everyone has the right to be coached mildly 01:07 [Kaotsetung]: Let me ask you a question 01:07 [Kaotsetung]: someone is griping about another player 01:07 [Kaotsetung]: but the person griping has no flask and no food buff 01:07 [Kaotsetung]: Do they have a right to bitch? 01:07 [Bootylyshis]: like, durign the fight? 01:07 [Kaotsetung]: yep 01:08 [Bootylyshis]: then i'd say no 01:08 [Kaotsetung]: happens every night 01:08 [Bootylyshis]: were they br'd? 01:08 [Kaotsetung]: nope 01:08 [Kaotsetung]: that way on the pull 01:08 [Kaotsetung]: hit yes on the ready check, missing buffs 01:09 [Bootylyshis]: then they don't have a right to bitch, why weren't they told? marv is pretty good about that, since there's an addon for it 01:09 [Kaotsetung]: then piss and moan and bitch about "people holding us back" 01:09 [Kaotsetung]: oh we talk to people about it 01:09 [Kaotsetung]: I use that add on 01:09 [Kaotsetung]: Just telling you about some stuff our guild does 01:10 [Kaotsetung]: but here's my deal. Me not having a food or flask buff won't costb us a fight 01:10 [Bootylyshis]: prolly not 01:11 [Kaotsetung]: but I make sure i have it every time. becuase that's how it's supposed ot be 01:11 [Kaotsetung]: My DPS is low for what it should be 01:11 [Kaotsetung]: some of that is all the other crap i deal with 01:11 [Kaotsetung]: some of it is my conn and comp 01:11 [Kaotsetung]: and some of it is my slow assed "twitch" muscles 01:11 [Bootylyshis]: well my main question about this whole convorsation up to now is: how much longer will it be before the people doing bad get sat 01:12 [Kaotsetung]: We sit them now, as we can. 01:12 [Kaotsetung]: Toma sat 5 days then g quit 01:12 [Kaotsetung]: didn't :like the direction of the guild" 01:12 [Kaotsetung]: Some nights we don't have anyone to fill the holes tho 01:12 [Bootylyshis]: toma did retarded high dps 01:13 [Bootylyshis]: how come he was sat? 01:13 [Kaotsetung]: he did. He also didn't switch targets when supposed to 01:13 [Kaotsetung]: blew off the raid a few times 01:13 [Bootylyshis]: aaah 01:13 [Kaotsetung]: refused to flask a couple times 01:13 [Kaotsetung]: team players play 01:13 [Bootylyshis]: wow 01:13 [Bootylyshis]: that's messed up 01:14 [Kaotsetung]: But I should have let him get away with it since he's such high dps right? 01:14 [Bootylyshis]: i believe he was a young kid, too 01:14 [Kaotsetung]: he is a kid..like 18 01:14 [Bootylyshis]: well if he was screwing up, then no, he shouldn't stay in 01:15 [Kaotsetung]: He thought he was better than everyone here. Pure elitist. 01:15 [Kaotsetung]: and he was a much higher DPS than a lot of us. 01:15 [Bootylyshis]: yeah, fuck that 01:16 [Kaotsetung]: but to answer your question. 01:16 [Kaotsetung]: some of the "screwing up" is hard to lay blame to 01:16 [Kaotsetung]: and just "low dps" isn't always a reason (like the debuffed person from earlier) 01:16 [Bootylyshis]: yeah, screwing up isn't always "low dps" 01:16 [Kaotsetung]: exactly 01:16 [Bootylyshis]: lmao right 01:17 [Kaotsetung]: I need people that I can depend on and that I know are doing it the "right way" 01:17 [Kaotsetung]: right now I have between 5-10 most of the time 01:17 [Bootylyshis]: maybe you should start talking to your raiders one at a time 01:17 [Kaotsetung]: WHo says I' haven't been ? :P 01:18 [Bootylyshis]: one day, maybe you and ech just pick a person and basically grill and interview them 01:18 [Bootylyshis]: ask them how their doing, how they think the guild is doing, any concerns they have 01:18 [Kaotsetung]: lol 01:18 [Bootylyshis]: it's way better to ask someone about guild concerns before it builds up and they explode about it 01:18 [Kaotsetung]: I'm trying to do that as well 01:18 [Kaotsetung]: but I also have a crap load of other stuff to deal with 01:19 [Bootylyshis]: i ran a 50 member corp in eve online for about 3 years 01:19 [Kaotsetung]: add to that the "tension" over some of the things that some of the "other 10 man ICC group" said 01:19 [Bootylyshis]: i started that corp from me and one other player in high sec starter space and by the time i quit to go pirate, i had 50 people with stations set up in 0.0 space 01:19 [Bootylyshis]: and i did it by talking to my corp members all the time 01:19 [Kaotsetung]: ummm.. is that good? 01:20 [Bootylyshis]: yes...yes it is lol 01:20 [Bootylyshis]: eve online is rediculous 01:20 [Kaotsetung]: you're using terms I don't know here lol 01:20 [Bootylyshis]: totally player controlled and all on 1 server 01:20 [Kaotsetung]: god 01:20 [Kaotsetung]: I don't evenw ant tot hink about that 01:20 [Bootylyshis]: dude, check it out 01:20 [Bootylyshis]: www.eve-online.com 01:20 [Kaotsetung]: lol 01:20 [Kaotsetung]: I have time for 1 addiction atm 01:21 [Bootylyshis]: omg you should do the trial. not to get into it, i wanna show you what it's like 01:21 [Kaotsetung]: and I'm currently supporting 4 01:21 [Bootylyshis]: just play it for an hour lol 01:21 [Bootylyshis]: you won't be addicted, i promise. you can't do jack shit to get addicted to eve in just 1 hour 01:21 [Kaotsetung]: lol, this was just an "hour" as well 01:21 [Bootylyshis]: that game take a long time to do anything 01:21 [Kaotsetung]: ah gotcha 01:21 [Bootylyshis]: i'm not exagerating lol 01:22 [Kaotsetung]: well right now I've got to go put my desktop back together 01:22 [Bootylyshis]: the people that really play eve haven't just walzed into the game, that's for sure 01:22 [Bootylyshis]: watch a trailer for it or something, at least. all the trailers are actual ingame recorded footage 01:22 [Bootylyshis]: your jaw will drop lol 01:22 [Kaotsetung]: thanks for taking the time out to chat a few 01:22 [Bootylyshis]: any time man 01:23 [Kaotsetung]: if you see a solid healer, send them to the website 01:23 [Kaotsetung]: unless they want some kind of guarantees lol 01:23 [Bootylyshis]: Munchies 01:23 [Bootylyshis]: lol 01:23 [Kaotsetung]: umm... 01:23 [Kaotsetung]: he was in guild for a while 01:23 [Bootylyshis]: i dunno what he's doing atm, but i know he's a beast of a healer 01:23 [Bootylyshis]: oh? 01:23 [Kaotsetung]: Not sure which one of us booted him 01:24 [Kaotsetung]: His attitude was pure shit 01:24 [Bootylyshis]: was he a bad egg? 01:24 [Bootylyshis]: aah 01:24 [Kaotsetung]: pissed off the entire guild 01:24 [Bootylyshis]: oh wow 01:24 [Bootylyshis]: i never knew him to talk a lot 01:24 [Kaotsetung]: think it was him anyway..Sham? 01:24 [Bootylyshis]: but wasn't guilded with him, so i guess that's different 01:24 [Bootylyshis]: no, pally 01:24 [Kaotsetung]: maybe diff guy then 01:25 [Bootylyshis]: you thinking of maybe Trusted? 01:25 [Kaotsetung]: but that name sure ruings alarm bells lol 01:25 [Kaotsetung]: no, wasn't trusted 01:25 [Kaotsetung]: anyway, I'm out for now.. later man 01:25 [Bootylyshis]: c ya