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[02/21/2010]

00:11 [Bootylyshis]: hey man

00:12 [Kaotsetung]: yessir?

00:12 [Bootylyshis]: i'm gonna pass on saturdays icc run

00:12 [Kaotsetung]: you mean SUnday?

00:12 [Bootylyshis]: today was pretty bad

00:12 [Bootylyshis]: no i mean doing our icc on saturdays to start

00:13 [Kaotsetung]: well today was bad because of wrong people on.

00:13 [Bootylyshis]: there were alts and stuff in on progression runs, add control was pretty much non-existant

00:13 [Bootylyshis]: ok, if our regular group is on for saturday, i have no problem

00:14 [Bootylyshis]: but people need to use their mains if there alts have no business in 10m icc

00:14 [Kaotsetung]: it will usually be mains. but, just like the day you didn't have your authenticor and the day you were late, the group had to try to make do with what ot had

00:14 [Kaotsetung]: I agree about alts.

00:15 [Kaotsetung]: But when people who sign up aren't here for whatever reason, using someone in an offspec (as tonight) or using an alt is about the only option.

00:15 [Bootylyshis]: the healers had to be brought in. they were ok

00:15 [Kaotsetung]: Had 1 of 3 healers on tonight.

00:15 [Bootylyshis]: but utu's alt did like 2.5k dps, and we asked him to switch to try to kill ldw and he said he wanted to stay on his mage

00:16 [Kaotsetung]: That shouldn't have happened

00:16 [Kaotsetung]: but I was surprised that you guys even wanted to try LDW with only 1 main spec healer

00:16 [Bootylyshis]: we needed his lock for extra dps, we might have had a better chance at killing her isntead of 3 full spawns of adds up at a time

00:16 [Kaotsetung]: yeah, I agree

00:17 [Bootylyshis]: but with the makeup that we had, we should have waited

00:17 [Kaotsetung]: That was why I suggested you guys only do the weekly

00:17 [Bootylyshis]: how is lylia gonna feel about going in tomorrow with the first boss down already?

00:17 [Kaotsetung]: I don't think that will be an issue with her tbh

00:17 [Kaotsetung]: She's usually enough of a team player.

00:17 [Kaotsetung]: And she got the weekly on 25

00:18 [Bootylyshis]: not about the weekly

00:18 [Bootylyshis]: i doubt she needs anything from 10m marrowgar anyway

00:18 [Kaotsetung]: Well here's the thing. The whole objective is to get a 2nd group deep into ICC.

00:18 [Kaotsetung]: She's part of that 2nd group so the 1st boss being dead won't impact her much at all.

00:19 [Bootylyshis]: nah, not for her

00:19 [Kaotsetung]: So long as we can actually field a full, regular group

00:19 [Bootylyshis]: that's fine

00:19 [Bootylyshis]: i'm just sayin, tonight should have been a night to just say "hmm, let's just wait for the solid people"

00:20 [Kaotsetung]: yeah, that's why I suggested stopping after weekly boss was down.

00:20 [Kaotsetung]: But left it up to you guys

00:20 [Bootylyshis]: now i'm not gonna get into it too much, it's none of my business to tell people how to play their class, it's their business.....but we're struggling on the "deep into icc" part

00:20 [Bootylyshis]: as a tank, i'd just like to contribute my concirn

00:21 [Bootylyshis]: *concern

00:21 [Bootylyshis]: however lol

00:21 [Kaotsetung]: I want to hear your concerns always.

00:21 [Kaotsetung]: But here's my take on it.

00:21 [Bootylyshis]: that's my concern, nothing really too it. we need to start pushing some people

00:21 [Kaotsetung]: Every week it's been a"role player" that's been missing.

00:22 [Kaotsetung]: 1st week you couldn't get on.

00:22 [Kaotsetung]: Next week you were a little late and we were short a healer

00:22 [Kaotsetung]: last week, heals were short

00:22 [Kaotsetung]: this week missing 2 healers

00:22 [Bootylyshis]: maybe we should get some backups?

00:22 [Kaotsetung]: Working on it

00:23 [Kaotsetung]: Just grabbing 2 people and saying "heal this" is rough as you know

00:23 [Bootylyshis]: i bombed the first 2 raids, one i kinda had no control over, the other was my fault. but i've been to every other 10 man and have been in or available for every single 25m since i started

00:24 [Kaotsetung]: Yeah, I know.

00:24 [Kaotsetung]: Shit happens to all of us at one point or another.

00:25 [Kaotsetung]: But I recruited a 2nd tank for ICC and I'm talking to a couple of healers as well.

00:25 [Bootylyshis]: coolbeans

00:25 [Kaotsetung]: The issue a lot of folks have is they want guarantees for 25 raiding.

00:26 [Bootylyshis]: now i should be able to do next sunday's icc run, but i won't be available thursday through saturday. me and crankeh are going to a lan. i don't want to sign up and get hammered and leave you hanging

00:27 [Kaotsetung]: That's fine man. Just remind me you're going to be out.

00:27 [Bootylyshis]: mmk

00:28 [Bootylyshis]: but yeah man, the current status of our main 10m group is starting to worry me

00:28 [Kaotsetung]: It's Saturday. I'll have a few drinks between now and Thurs lol

00:28 [Kaotsetung]: the group Far runs?

00:28 [Bootylyshis]: i know there is a bunch of drama with some people, imma stay out of that

00:28 [Bootylyshis]: no, the group i run with you

00:29 [Kaotsetung]: If we can get 3 consistent healers for that group, it'll be fine.

00:29 [Bootylyshis]: i've been tanking since the day wrath came out

00:29 [Kaotsetung]: Weekends are rough for lylia with her kids

00:29 [Bootylyshis]: i can spot some lazy healers

00:29 [Bootylyshis]: it's the main healers i'm worried about

00:29 [Kaotsetung]: Esh and Kau?

00:29 [Bootylyshis]: more or less healer

00:30 [Bootylyshis]: no, kau is good, just not as consistant

00:30 [Kaotsetung]: Just give me a name lol

00:30 [Bootylyshis]: lylia has some bad healing man

00:30 [Bootylyshis]: it's just bad

00:30 [Bootylyshis]: i dont' wanna be mean

00:30 [Bootylyshis]: but this char right here can do better

00:30 [Kaotsetung]: Yeah, she's been dropping off badly over the past month

00:31 [Kaotsetung]: and I'm not really sure why. I knoa part of why in 25's.

00:31 [Kaotsetung]: but not so much in 10's

00:31 [Bootylyshis]: i watch the meters

00:31 [Bootylyshis]: she had some gear issues and stuff before, that's coming around

00:31 [Bootylyshis]: but the main thing that i see is that she's lazy

00:31 [Kaotsetung]: I'm curious why you say that?

00:32 [Kaotsetung]: and are you tlaking 25's?

00:32 [Bootylyshis]: both

00:33 [Bootylyshis]: i've healed in groups like our 25m before

00:33 [Kaotsetung]: Haven' looked at her 10 heals. Been looking closely at her 25's esp since her heal time has been low

00:33 [Bootylyshis]: there is no reason she should only be doing less than 20% healing

00:33 [Bootylyshis]: she's doing 10-15%

00:33 [Kaotsetung]: Actually there is.

00:34 [Kaotsetung]: her heal target in 25's has been overhealed by other healers. She hasn't been pushing heals on tank when he's at close to max health all the time

00:34 [Bootylyshis]: i don't understand

00:35 [Bootylyshis]: is she sharing a target?

00:35 [Kaotsetung]: no

00:35 [Kaotsetung]: well,not by assignment

00:35 [Kaotsetung]: but thta's what's been happening

00:35 [Bootylyshis]: then she should be healing the hell out of him

00:35 [Bootylyshis]: who else is healing her target more than her

00:36 [Kaotsetung]: Far's ebacon, Dray's chain

00:36 [Bootylyshis]: she's heaing a tank?

00:36 [Kaotsetung]: Lylia? yes

00:36 [Kaotsetung]: Far is on Skav, Lylia is on Marv, Esh is on Gorey and "floats"

00:37 [Bootylyshis]: well, i dunno about her, but a beacon never kept my target up enough to cut out my heals

00:37 [Bootylyshis]: but then again

00:37 [Kaotsetung]: Far uses that "huge heal" pally build

00:37 [Bootylyshis]: if a beacon and a chain heal are able to keep up a tank, then she should be healing someone else that is low on health

00:37 [Bootylyshis]: doesn't matter who, just pick a target

00:37 [Bootylyshis]: or...

00:37 [Kaotsetung]: they tlak about it in the link that far put on our forums

00:37 [Bootylyshis]: maybe you should look at replacing a healer with another dps

00:38 [Kaotsetung]: Well, here's what should be happening. Far should be beaconing Gorey and healing Skav

00:38 [Bootylyshis]: if their heals are enough to keep him up, then why not put in a dps?

00:38 [Kaotsetung]: at times we do

00:39 [Bootylyshis]: maybe we should do it more often

00:39 [Kaotsetung]: we had t find out why her healing time was so low 1st.

00:39 [Kaotsetung]: and didn't figure it out until Wed

00:39 [Bootylyshis]: but that's 25's, that's not my full area since i'm still on the edge of sat most times lol

00:39 [Bootylyshis]: let's talk about the 10m's where it's my game lifeblood on the line

00:40 [Kaotsetung]: Want my honest opinion on the 10?

00:40 [Bootylyshis]: always

00:40 [Kaotsetung]: We still haven't really had a "full" 10 group yet. At this point we can't really say much about it because I have yet to get the 2 tanks and 3 healers I want in there even once.

00:41 [Bootylyshis]: me and augustus rock the tank house, you're in good hands here

00:41 [Kaotsetung]: Until we can put those 5 people into the instance at the same time for the 1st time, it's not doing any good to play with the makeup.

00:41 [Bootylyshis]: esh, kau and lylia aren't the tanks you want?

00:41 [Kaotsetung]: they're the healers I want

00:42 [Kaotsetung]: we just haven't fielded them plus the 2 of you tnaks together yet

00:42 [Bootylyshis]: well i got an example for you

00:42 [Bootylyshis]: last night in the uld hm we did

00:42 [Kaotsetung]: I was hoping that this week we'd get you 5 together and plug in DPS

00:43 [Bootylyshis]: we were doing iron council with just kau and lylia healing

00:43 [Bootylyshis]: which, tbh, should have been overkill

00:44 [Bootylyshis]: kau, cracka and utu died at times they had no business dying

00:44 [Kaotsetung]: I don't heal. 2 healers for 3 tanks plus raid damage?

00:44 [Bootylyshis]: 2 tanks

00:44 [Bootylyshis]: me and sutha were tanking

00:44 [Bootylyshis]: sutha is plenty geared for it, i'm way over geared for it, so was the rest of the raid

00:45 [Kaotsetung]: 2 tanks on 10 man council?

00:45 [Bootylyshis]: yup

00:45 [Kaotsetung]: kk

00:45 [Bootylyshis]: well check it out....

00:45 [Bootylyshis]: we got close several times into the 3rd phase

00:45 [Bootylyshis]: the one time kau died, bogart stepped up and was healing raid and me and sutha while he br'd kau

00:46 [Kaotsetung]: k

00:46 [Bootylyshis]: did a f'in great job

00:46 [Bootylyshis]: so we said hey, we have enough dps, let's have bogart be a 3rd healer to help out

00:46 [Bootylyshis]: so that's how it was

00:46 [Bootylyshis]: next thing ya know, i'm dying while still killing the 2nd guy

00:46 [Bootylyshis]: several times

00:46 [Bootylyshis]: we finally called it as a loss and dropped group, i checked my meters

00:47 [Kaotsetung]: k

00:47 [Bootylyshis]: lylia went from doing some ok healing to doing damn near 8%

00:47 [Bootylyshis]: she was MY healing, i was her only target

00:47 [Bootylyshis]: bogart and kau did raid and sutha

00:47 [Bootylyshis]: i had cd's popped

00:47 [Bootylyshis]: dropped dead

00:47 [Bootylyshis]: there's no reason for that and it was pissing a lot of people off.

00:48 [Kaotsetung]: Doesn't make sense n the surface that's for sure.

00:48 [Kaotsetung]: I'll have a look at the report and see what I can dig up. if we need to replace her then we need to replace her

00:50 [Bootylyshis]: thank you for listening man

00:50 [Kaotsetung]: always willing to

00:50 [Bootylyshis]: sorry if i got a lil abrasive, it's just worrying me. i want to do good

00:50 [Bootylyshis]: and, well, we're not

00:51 [Kaotsetung]: a little abrasive is ok

00:51 [Kaotsetung]: at times

00:51 [Bootylyshis]: it's just bothersom that the same people every raid are keeping us from progressing

00:51 [Kaotsetung]: 25's?

00:51 [Bootylyshis]: yeah, 25's

00:51 [Bootylyshis]: and 10's

00:52 [Kaotsetung]: Here's what I'll say about 25's. And I had this discussion yesterday afternoon lol

00:52 [Kaotsetung]: Someone came to me about how "the same people" keep screwing it up for everyone.

00:52 [Kaotsetung]: And I said, fair enough.. tell me who.

00:53 [Kaotsetung]: and they named a name and talked about "low dps"

00:53 [Kaotsetung]: then I took them inot the report where the "low dps" person had a debuff 5 times longer than anyone else in the raid

00:53 [Kaotsetung]: Want my take on our issue with 25's?

00:54 [Bootylyshis]: always

00:54 [Kaotsetung]: we have about 6 people that are performing at near 100% on all attempts.

00:54 [Kaotsetung]: Some of those 6 blame our failures on "the same people over and over"

00:55 [Kaotsetung]: but we have 19 people that are half coasting on some attmepts

00:55 [Kaotsetung]: here's an example

00:55 [Kaotsetung]: "How did I get cleaved? I was behind him"

00:55 [Kaotsetung]: now this is from a caster mind you

00:55 [Kaotsetung]: my 1st responses were:

00:56 [Kaotsetung]: a) If he cleaved you then you weren't bhind him, so quit bullshitting

00:56 [Kaotsetung]: b) You're a caster, why are you so damned close?

00:56 [Bootylyshis]: i agree

00:56 [Kaotsetung]: c) Do you really think that I'm going to fall for the "bitch about how the fight was broken" defense to cover your stupidity?

00:57 [Kaotsetung]: now for the best part....

00:57 [Kaotsetung]: the person who said all that wasn't Utu

00:57 [Kaotsetung]: but someone who rags on him all the time and tlaks about how he "holds back the guild"

00:57 [Bootylyshis]: hey now...i haven't mentioned utu's name yet lol

00:57 [Kaotsetung]: lol

00:57 [Bootylyshis]: don't judge me :p

00:58 [Kaotsetung]: I'm not

00:59 [Bootylyshis]: but while we're on the subject, he could use some work

00:59 [Bootylyshis]: and no, i'm not talking about hte princes fight

00:59 [Kaotsetung]: he could. I talk to him every day

00:59 [Bootylyshis]: that shit is hard, i totally agree, i have no beef with him doing that the other day

00:59 [Kaotsetung]: Eh, that princess fight is annoying as hell

00:59 [Bootylyshis]: yeah it is

00:59 [Kaotsetung]: This is just my opinion but we should have been using a tank on that all along

01:00 [Kaotsetung]: Remeber the 10 where I told you to do it?

01:00 [Bootylyshis]: in our 10m, i remember when someone hit the trap for the guys in front of putricide

01:00 [Bootylyshis]: i was ready with a dnd and grabbed them, utu was in the back of the raid and he just dropped dead after just joining the raid 30 seconds prior

01:00 [Bootylyshis]: wtf lol

01:01 [Kaotsetung]: lol

01:01 [Kaotsetung]: he lives more lately.. now to get him to focus on his rotation

01:02 [Kaotsetung]: If I could get him to do that and tenzi to not divulge every detail of his day

01:02 [Bootylyshis]: i'm starting to get the hang of my dps, the more i do, the more i pull away from him in 25m's

01:02 [Kaotsetung]: yep

01:02 [Bootylyshis]: now, i'm not gonna bitch..

01:02 [Kaotsetung]: locks are kind of screwed in some ways tho

01:02 [Bootylyshis]: but the way i would see it is, if someone needs to be sat, it would usually be the lower dps's

01:03 [Kaotsetung]: sometimes

01:03 [Kaotsetung]: it depends on utility some too

01:03 [Kaotsetung]: Cylar is low DPS but he's the only replen we have

01:04 [Kaotsetung]: My DPS is about to drop considerably but I picked up replen also

01:04 [Bootylyshis]: cylar can pump it out, i've seen him above me plenty

01:04 [Kaotsetung]: because Far is going oom

01:04 [Bootylyshis]: while tenzi is extremely annoying, he does do decent dps

01:04 [Bootylyshis]: very decent

01:04 [Kaotsetung]: but he's also "twitchy"

01:04 [Bootylyshis]: now to get him to stay away from the raid...... lol

01:05 [Kaotsetung]: him on Rot is a healer's nightmare

01:05 [Bootylyshis]: LMAO

01:05 [Kaotsetung]: and has been known to kill a couple of raid members as well

01:05 [Kaotsetung]: heres my point before I todle off to bed

01:05 [Bootylyshis]: on princes', i wanted to strangle him for standing int he middle of the stage where we were all running to

01:06 [Kaotsetung]: lol

01:06 [Kaotsetung]: During a given raid, there are between 15-21 people that are half assing it at any goven time

01:06 [Kaotsetung]: Some on purpose, some cuz they aren't "up to speed"

01:06 [Bootylyshis]: do they all know they are causing issues

01:07 [Kaotsetung]: Pound, some of them are the people who bitch about "the same people holding us back"

01:07 [Bootylyshis]: everyone has the right to be coached mildly

01:07 [Kaotsetung]: Let me ask you a question

01:07 [Kaotsetung]: someone is griping about another player

01:07 [Kaotsetung]: but the person griping has no flask and no food buff

01:07 [Kaotsetung]: Do they have a right to bitch?

01:07 [Bootylyshis]: like, durign the fight?

01:07 [Kaotsetung]: yep

01:08 [Bootylyshis]: then i'd say no

01:08 [Kaotsetung]: happens every night

01:08 [Bootylyshis]: were they br'd?

01:08 [Kaotsetung]: nope

01:08 [Kaotsetung]: that way on the pull

01:08 [Kaotsetung]: hit yes on the ready check, missing buffs

01:09 [Bootylyshis]: then they don't have a right to bitch, why weren't they told? marv is pretty good about that, since there's an addon for it

01:09 [Kaotsetung]: then piss and moan and bitch about "people holding us back"

01:09 [Kaotsetung]: oh we talk to people about it

01:09 [Kaotsetung]: I use that add on

01:09 [Kaotsetung]: Just telling you about some stuff our guild does

01:10 [Kaotsetung]: but here's my deal. Me not having a food or flask buff won't costb us a fight

01:10 [Bootylyshis]: prolly not

01:11 [Kaotsetung]: but I make sure i have it every time. becuase that's how it's supposed ot be

01:11 [Kaotsetung]: My DPS is low for what it should be

01:11 [Kaotsetung]: some of that is all the other crap i deal with

01:11 [Kaotsetung]: some of it is my conn and comp

01:11 [Kaotsetung]: and some of it is my slow assed "twitch" muscles

01:11 [Bootylyshis]: well my main question about this whole convorsation up to now is: how much longer will it be before the people doing bad get sat

01:12 [Kaotsetung]: We sit them now, as we can.

01:12 [Kaotsetung]: Toma sat 5 days then g quit

01:12 [Kaotsetung]: didn't :like the direction of the guild"

01:12 [Kaotsetung]: Some nights we don't have anyone to fill the holes tho

01:12 [Bootylyshis]: toma did retarded high dps

01:13 [Bootylyshis]: how come he was sat?

01:13 [Kaotsetung]: he did. He also didn't switch targets when supposed to

01:13 [Kaotsetung]: blew off the raid a few times

01:13 [Bootylyshis]: aaah

01:13 [Kaotsetung]: refused to flask a couple times

01:13 [Kaotsetung]: team players play

01:13 [Bootylyshis]: wow

01:13 [Bootylyshis]: that's messed up

01:14 [Kaotsetung]: But I should have let him get away with it since he's such high dps right?

01:14 [Bootylyshis]: i believe he was a young kid, too

01:14 [Kaotsetung]: he is a kid..like 18

01:14 [Bootylyshis]: well if he was screwing up, then no, he shouldn't stay in

01:15 [Kaotsetung]: He thought he was better than everyone here. Pure elitist.

01:15 [Kaotsetung]: and he was a much higher DPS than a lot of us.

01:15 [Bootylyshis]: yeah, fuck that

01:16 [Kaotsetung]: but to answer your question.

01:16 [Kaotsetung]: some of the "screwing up" is hard to lay blame to

01:16 [Kaotsetung]: and just "low dps" isn't always a reason (like the debuffed person from earlier)

01:16 [Bootylyshis]: yeah, screwing up isn't always "low dps"

01:16 [Kaotsetung]: exactly

01:16 [Bootylyshis]: lmao right

01:17 [Kaotsetung]: I need people that I can depend on and that I know are doing it the "right way"

01:17 [Kaotsetung]: right now I have between 5-10 most of the time

01:17 [Bootylyshis]: maybe you should start talking to your raiders one at a time

01:17 [Kaotsetung]: WHo says I' haven't been ? :P

01:18 [Bootylyshis]: one day, maybe you and ech just pick a person and basically grill and interview them

01:18 [Bootylyshis]: ask them how their doing, how they think the guild is doing, any concerns they have

01:18 [Kaotsetung]: lol

01:18 [Bootylyshis]: it's way better to ask someone about guild concerns before it builds up and they explode about it

01:18 [Kaotsetung]: I'm trying to do that as well

01:18 [Kaotsetung]: but I also have a crap load of other stuff to deal with

01:19 [Bootylyshis]: i ran a 50 member corp in eve online for about 3 years

01:19 [Kaotsetung]: add to that the "tension" over some of the things that some of the "other 10 man ICC group" said

01:19 [Bootylyshis]: i started that corp from me and one other player in high sec starter space and by the time i quit to go pirate, i had 50 people with stations set up in 0.0 space

01:19 [Bootylyshis]: and i did it by talking to my corp members all the time

01:19 [Kaotsetung]: ummm.. is that good?

01:20 [Bootylyshis]: yes...yes it is lol

01:20 [Bootylyshis]: eve online is rediculous

01:20 [Kaotsetung]: you're using terms I don't know here lol

01:20 [Bootylyshis]: totally player controlled and all on 1 server

01:20 [Kaotsetung]: god

01:20 [Kaotsetung]: I don't evenw ant tot hink about that

01:20 [Bootylyshis]: dude, check it out

01:20 [Bootylyshis]: www.eve-online.com

01:20 [Kaotsetung]: lol

01:20 [Kaotsetung]: I have time for 1 addiction atm

01:21 [Bootylyshis]: omg you should do the trial. not to get into it, i wanna show you what it's like

01:21 [Kaotsetung]: and I'm currently supporting 4

01:21 [Bootylyshis]: just play it for an hour lol

01:21 [Bootylyshis]: you won't be addicted, i promise. you can't do jack shit to get addicted to eve in just 1 hour

01:21 [Kaotsetung]: lol, this was just an "hour" as well

01:21 [Bootylyshis]: that game take a long time to do anything

01:21 [Kaotsetung]: ah gotcha

01:21 [Bootylyshis]: i'm not exagerating lol

01:22 [Kaotsetung]: well right now I've got to go put my desktop back together

01:22 [Bootylyshis]: the people that really play eve haven't just walzed into the game, that's for sure

01:22 [Bootylyshis]: watch a trailer for it or something, at least. all the trailers are actual ingame recorded footage

01:22 [Bootylyshis]: your jaw will drop lol

01:22 [Kaotsetung]: thanks for taking the time out to chat a few

01:22 [Bootylyshis]: any time man

01:23 [Kaotsetung]: if you see a solid healer, send them to the website

01:23 [Kaotsetung]: unless they want some kind of guarantees lol

01:23 [Bootylyshis]: Munchies

01:23 [Bootylyshis]: lol

01:23 [Kaotsetung]: umm...

01:23 [Kaotsetung]: he was in guild for a while

01:23 [Bootylyshis]: i dunno what he's doing atm, but i know he's a beast of a healer

01:23 [Bootylyshis]: oh?

01:23 [Kaotsetung]: Not sure which one of us booted him

01:24 [Kaotsetung]: His attitude was pure shit

01:24 [Bootylyshis]: was he a bad egg?

01:24 [Bootylyshis]: aah

01:24 [Kaotsetung]: pissed off the entire guild

01:24 [Bootylyshis]: oh wow

01:24 [Bootylyshis]: i never knew him to talk a lot

01:24 [Kaotsetung]: think it was him anyway..Sham?

01:24 [Bootylyshis]: but wasn't guilded with him, so i guess that's different

01:24 [Bootylyshis]: no, pally

01:24 [Kaotsetung]: maybe diff guy then

01:25 [Bootylyshis]: you thinking of maybe Trusted?

01:25 [Kaotsetung]: but that name sure ruings alarm bells lol

01:25 [Kaotsetung]: no, wasn't trusted

01:25 [Kaotsetung]: anyway, I'm out for now.. later man

01:25 [Bootylyshis]: c ya