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The Cult of Microsoft: What Greed Does to People


Mostly from the TMF board, as it works out. Includes links to words that posters will one day regret...

Us Against a Big Jealous World
So many lawsuits
Lawrence Lenin shills for the State by Sera1 on TMF
Punish the Best for being the Best on TMF
CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA by ursulaB on TMF
Selfish stockholders! on TMF
Microsoft's Real World by grapegeek on TMF, reproducing a WSJ editorial
(Oddly, this post was NOT pulled for excessive quoting of copyrighted material, as often happens to techno51, for example.)
MSFT and the Gov Thugs by ClarkSavageJr on TMF
MSFT Fool-Board's Useless Whining
Get a Life on TMF
Tall Poppy Syndrome by ozgipsy on TMF
Ayn Rand and Microsoft Antitrust by taipeiblaine on TMF
(Actually, it's by by some Randroid named Robert S. Getman)
Sell No More Windows or Cigaretts by generalvol on TMF

Microsoft Can Do No Wrong
Answering the monopoly apologists
Blinded by Love for MSFT by varney on TMF
The Big Picture by oldblue64 on TMF
What I don't get by Sera1 on TMF (long, of course)
A day in the life of MichaelRead on TMF
Hey George, was Jesus ethical by MyronASAP on TMF.
Yes, he's comparing Microsoft to Jesus. For real.
Microsoft is Innocent by montashigi on TMF, who doesn't give a damn what the courts say.
Microsoft: The Mythical Monopoly by HankDame on TMF

Golly, Microsoft Products Are Good!
Gerald Holmes (a dead-on parody of Microsoft worshippers)
Future of Microsoft (LONG) by olegik on TMF
Thank God for MSFT by viacomman on MSFT
Trash Talking About Microsoft on TMF
Meanwhile, in the real world

No Truth Allowed
I was ill last weekend, now I'm sick by rehowes on TMF
Re: ngr2 the big bad wolf by DBA2OHIO on TMF
Bashing the Bashers by DJWKLW on TMF
Ignoring a Fool by DJWKLW on TMF
Investors - TAKE BACK THIS FORUM by Piratelooksat40 on TMF

There are approximately 10 people that do NOTHING but promote LINUX and post negative information about Microsoft.

(Ignoring the fact that it's Microsoft lovers who keep bringing up the subject, and also that the fortunes of Linux are of direct relevance to those of Microsoft.)
Sera1, why are you here? by gettinbranded on TMF
Re: Industry turns a skeptical eye to new Window by ngr2 on TMF
bonky posted this gem:

Here's what I make of it: It's written from the author's perspective - Microsoft hater.

What a wonderfully elegant ad hominem! And it's not even untrue, merely irrelevant.

What you're really saying here is that anyone who criticises Microsoft is not to be taken seriously precisely because he is criticising Microsoft. The messenger is the message.


techo51 and montashigi in my Pbox by grapegeek on TMF
MSFT DoomSayers Please Exit by LRobi999 on TMF

Technical Ignorance is Bliss
Re: Why are You on this Board? by youngsl on TMF

Knowing what you own", from the point of view of the investor, doesn't require technical competency in the company owned. You can know a great deal about a business =as a business= without knowing anything at all about viruses or writing code or why Linux is or isn't a good end user platform

Why Post Linux here? by DJWKLW on TMF
Do you seriously think that what you write will change my position on Microsoft?

6 Months and Nothing's Changed by Piratelooksat40 on TMF
I really wish the Fool would have some kind of branching mechanism that would automatically send all the Linux messages to another thread or send them to the Red Hat board. If all the Linux crap were filtered out this board would be halfway decent.

Poll: The typical Linux-thread by ManfredF on TMF
It goes like this:


pro-MSFTie: "Linux sux"
con-MSFTie: "It does not because a) b) c)"
pro-MSFTie: "I'm tired of your Linux talk, go away, commie-pond-scum-Yugo-salesman"

If you don't want to talk about Linux, why the hell are you starting a Linux thread every 2 minutes?

The Cult of the Monkey Boy
The ritual: Steve Ballmer monkey dance video
The reactions:
Paul Larson of TMF comments

I can't write something about Microsoft and not mention the highly publicized antics of the company's CEO, Steve Ballmer. As one of my fellow Fools joked, "How can you watch Ballmer on stage and not want to short the stock?"

...But when your company's CEO starts making the late-night comedy shows because he has a reputation of occasionally acting like a raving lunatic... not good. Being the new posterboy for antiperspirant... not good.


Kuro5hin: Top 11 Thoughts After Watching the Ballmer Video
11. Kids, crystal meth is a dangerous substance....

The justifications:
ZDNet: Microsoft and Kool-Aid test By Charles Cooper
... Your CEO wouldn't do that, and that's probably one reason why your company's stock price is plummeting to new lows while yet another round of layoffs is in the works. Mock Ballmer all you want, but the passion of Microsoft's CEO hints at a larger truth about the software maker" "...But like Microsoft or not, the unsated appetite of this company is a testament to the ability and drive of the folks running the show. In business, like in war, half-measures don't make it. And when you go into battle, it helps if the true believers are in command"

... True believers indeed!
TMF: Re: Monkeyboy gets last laugh by dhreilly on TMF, in response to Charles Cooper
Do you think the courts will buy this theory? They haven't so far. So far the only interpretation of events that any judge will buy is that Microsoft lucked into a monopoly, and has been abusing it ever since.

If it walks like a chimp, and talks like a chimp, it's probably a chimp. Or an idiot.


Re: Would your CEO Do This? by ajhalligan
One of the hardest things CEO's to accomplish is to motivate their employees. Different managers have different styles. Ballmer is an exicitable and passionate guy and it shows. Thats his style.

ajhalligan goes on to affirm the cult mentality:
Jack Welch had an interested comment in GE's annual report about his managers buying into GE's corporate culture and vision. Basically those managers who didn't buy in were going to find themselves somewhere else. They are a cancer on the corporation.

Re: Would your CEO Do This? by dhreilly, responding to ajhalligan
"One of the hardest things CEO's to accomplish is to motivate their employees."

1. Why would that be hard, in this instance in particular? 2. What sort of employees would be pumped up by some guy running around and screeching like a monkey?


MVP action figures! (also condescendingly stupid)

Microsoft the Invincible
00-Mar TMF: What I'm Betting On by DJWKLW

You guys will eventual kill yourselves. Last count has several versions of Linux out there, with many different programmers making modifications. How long do you think you guys will brush off the Birkenstocks, stand round the campfire, hold hands, and sing Kumbyai (sp), before you've got hundreds of factions. Then it will be time for me to hit the Linux boards. I will sit back and laugh, as you beat each other to a bloody pulp.

00-Apr TMF: Why MS will beat the rap by Copiyy2a
00-Jul TMF: Always look at the bright side of life by CapricornFool
01-Mar TMF: Linux Can't Compete.... by DJWKLW
01-Mar TMF: Thoughts about Microsoft by olegik
Verdict - Microsoft is going to kill everyone in this industry.

01-May TMF: I was so much older then I'm .. by Thermopile

On the Verge of Panic
Fear and Loathing in Redmond
The Larger Picture

The Last Refuge of the Scoundrel
Salon: Life, liberty and the pursuit of free software

"I'm an American; I believe in the American way," continued Allchin. "I worry if the government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of policymakers to understand the threat."

AMERICA DON'T LET S/W GO OVERSEAS!! by jbfooljb on TMF
MICROSOFT - AMERICA WAKE UP! by jbfooljb on TMF
Wake Up, America! by filcro on TMF
EU wants to run U.S. Business by filcro on TMF

The Moral Abyss
Re: Why are You on this Board? by youngsl on TMF

It makes not a whit of difference what Microsoft actually =is=, as long as whatever they are continues to successfully sell product.

Re: The MSFT Not-A-Monopoly Myth by Mathematix on TMF
I am a MSFT stockholder and I applaud the management of MSFT each time they crush or preferably annihilate the competition. The higher the margins, the higher the revenues, the lower the costs, the more MSFT can charge, the happier I am.

Sell No More Windows or Cigaretts by generalvol on TMF
What if: the tobacco companies decided not to sell any more cigarettes in the US? Think maybe a few folks would get fired up and protest? (I don't smoke).

What if Microsoft held a new conference tomorrow and announce they would cease selling all Operating systems in the USA for 1 year? Think maybe we'd have a protest?


(I should think anyone who's had a loved one die of lung cancer should protest this one.)
Re: Poll: Inappropriate posts by JMHawkins on TMF
Now, some will argue that there is something to be said for "morally responsible" investing. Perhaps, but the crowd that's accusing Microsoft of being morally bankrupt appears to base their claim on Microsoft winning in the market. All the damned sob-stories I hear about how poor little Netscape was beat up just don't cut the mustard with me.

Shareholders to Microsoft: Pay out
Microsoft executives said Tuesday the company had no plans to pay dividends from its $40.5 billion in cash holdings as long as the software giant faced the threat of further litigation.

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