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From: "Linda" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 8:06:12 PM Subject: Burns Family Website

Peter John Burns My 2nd great grandfather Birth 1828 in Virginia, USA Death 19 Dec 1893 in LeHigh, Webster, Ia, USA I know his dad was from PA and Mom was from France – I found on this on a census record
He Married Maria Jane Lockhart Birth 25 Apr 1822 in Terre Haute, Vigo, Indiana, United States Death 3 Jul 1908 in Callender, Webster, Iowa, United States
Children – John William Burns was my great grandfather so I have all info on him the rest of the kids I have some information on but have not confirmed any of it yet.

I didn’t if anyone had any information on Peter John Burns – Like brothers or sisters or parents, because he was born in Virginia. Most of his children where born in Illinios. If this will help you or if you have any info for me I would appreciate it.
Linda Nicely

Subject: Burns From: Pete Lorah
Date: Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:33:48 -0400

I stumbled upon your site from a google search. Here are some facts I know from my own family tree. My grandfather was William Herbert Burns 1932-2004. His father was a German Baptist (AKA mennonite) named Samuel Herbert Burns born in 1901. Samuel's father is a mystery. We know his father was John Burns 1849-1932 married to a Nancy E. We know that John was raised German Baptist an he was born in West Virginia. An old picture of him makes us believe that he is Native American and perhaps adopted by German Baptist parents but we don't know any information to confirm that. Unfortunately since my Grandfather left the church and German Baptist don't use the computer research has been difficult. If you have any more information or would like to know more from me let me know.
Thanks, Pete Lorah

From: "Michael Radcliff"
Subject: James Burns, Sr, b 1744, d 5/28/1778 in Greenbrier County, (West) Virginia
Date: Friday, 29 October 2010 14:01:07 -0400
Wonder if you could give me any clues on a 5th great grandfather of mine that apparently was just dropped into the middle of Greenbrier County, Virginia sometime in the mid 1700s. At least it seems that way. So far, I have been unable to tie him into any other Burns/Burnes/Byrnes/Biernes, etc. group that I’ve seen. His name is James Burns and general consensus is that he was born around 1744 in County Roscommon, Ireland, though no one seems to have any proof of that. From the 1760s on down, I have the family pretty well nailed down.

James Burns, Sr (1744) was one of 4 men killed on May 28, 1778 during an Indian attack on Fort Donnally. Before this, I have seen entries here and there, indicating that he was in the Greenbrier Valley as early as the mid 1760’s. His wife was Jane Dietz, but I have absolutely no clue who either of his parents were, nor where they were from. Of course, I am speculating they probably (if he was not born in Ireland), came down the main migration route through the Shenandoah Valley and through a pass in the mountains, into the Greenbrier area.

My direct line of descent from James Burns, Sr is through his son, James Burns, Jr, as follows:
James Burns, Jr. (James, Sr) b. Jan 15, 1768, in what would shortly become Greenbrier County, Virginia m. May 22, 1804, to Rebecca Walkup Greenbrier County, Virginia d. Aug 21, 1853 Greenbrier County, Virginia.

Christopher Burns (James, Jr; James, Sr) b. Aug 20, 1815, in Greenbrier County, Virginia m. 1st Jan 18, 1848 to Evaline Hedrick, in Greenbrier County, Virginia (my line) m. 2nd Jan 8, 1867 to Nancy Jane Flint, in Greenbrier County, West Virginia d. Jun 12, 1887 Greenbrier County, West Virginia.

William Harvey Burns (Christopher; James, Jr; James, Sr) b. Dec 21, 1853, in Meadow Bluff District, Greenbrier County, West Virginia m. Apr 5, 1876 to Mary Elizabeth Fox Greenbrier County, West Virginia d. Jul 6, 1931 Vale, Greenbrier County, West Virginia.

Alfred Harvey Burns (William Harvey; Christopher; James, Jr; James, Sr) b. Feb 2, 1880, in Vale, Greenbrier County, West Virginia m. Sep 30, 1901 to Mary Ellen “Ella” Shawver Dawson, Greenbrier County, West Virginia d. Oct 11, 1971 Corliss, Fayette County, West Virginia

Rev. Lacy Harvey Burns (Alfred Harvey; William Harvey; Christopher; James, Jr; James, Sr) b. Oct 2, 1907 Dawson, Greenbrier County, West Virginia m. 1st Jun 27, 1930 to Aulta Violet Canfield, Tucker County, West Virginia (my line) m. 2ndly Feb 2, 1935 to Zula Mae Green m. 3rd Jun, 1965, Ann Clark, Charleston, Kanawha County, West Virginia d. Nov 29, 1967, Clarksburg, West Virginia

Irma Jean Burns (Rev.Lacy Harvey; Alfred Harvey; William Harvey; Christopher; James, Jr; James, Sr) b. Mar 110 (?), 1932, Huntington, Cabell County, West Virginia (My Mother) m. Dec 29, 1950 to Gerald Allen Radcliff, Huntington, Cabell County, West Virginia

As I said, I have hunted in vain for years to try and locate the elder James’ ancestors, but to no avail. My grandfather Lacy Burns used to always say that we originated in Scotland, and I believe we were a part of the Plantation of Ulster, Ireland, beginning in the early 1600s. From there, we most likely entered the country through Philadelphia and eventually made our way down the Great Wagon Road and found a likely looking place to hop over the mountains. But they could as easily come in through the Carolinas and made their way north, or possibly drifted farther south into the Carolinas on the Wagon road and then moved back up. I know there were a lot of Burns in NC, in particular, but I really haven’t seen anything likely there, either.

If you have any ideas on this line, I would be thrilled to hear from you! Thanks for bearing with me! Have a great day and God Bless!

Michael Radcliff

Date: Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:59:06 -0800 (PST) From: Carolyn Pigg Subject: ANDREW S BURNS To:
Good Evening Norma,
Charles Burns, Sr. had a son Andrew S. Burns (Charles, Sr), born in Henry County, Virginia. William Burns, Sr., also had a son Andrew Burns (William), married Nancy Baker. From Family documents, William's son Andrew was born in Henry County, Kentucky. Andrew and Nancy had a son named Andrew Jackson Burns, who married Nancy Davidson.

During the time when William and Andrew were traveling between Virginia and North Carolina, their father was close to death. Andrew was not able to travel back and forth to Virginia, we don't know why, so William took the responsibility for his father. A couple of times, Charles traveled with William to North Carolina.

I think there is a mix-up with Andrew S. Burns, and our Andrew Burns who married Nancy Baker, daughter of Robert "Julius" Bob Baker and Elizabeth Hammond/Hammon Baker.

Do you have any thoughts as to how we can identify these two Andrews?
Carolyn Pigg, 4th great granddaughter of Andrew Burns and Nancy Baker Burns and 5th great granddaughter of William Burns, Sr.

Calvin Alex Burns was a GGG uncle of mine who lived in Bangor, AL. His great grandparents were Charles and Mary Webb (divorced) Burns of VA. His letter was written some 125 years ago or even longer. Alexander (senior) and Mary Ellen Roach Burns were his grandparents and Jonathan and Martha Richards Burns, his parents.

I am a GG granddaughter of the John Burns and Betsey Bradford Burns he mentions and a great granddaughter of Edward Burns (unknow mn) and Malinda Elizabeth Lindsey Burns. This tool might help others in their research. Our family has much info regarding the Burns' but very little on the Lindseys. Edward's mother's name was Jane (maiden unk.) and he had at least two siblings, Mary Ann Burns and Nancy Lindsey Burns, according the the Blount Co., AL Confederate Census of 1860. Many of my cousins and I have been seeking information about Edward's other family. We have info on all Malinda and Edward's children.
Dawn Lindsey Burns Gibson (Edward Burns)
Birmingham, AL area
Membership Secretary
Vestavia Hills United Methodist Church
See bottom of page for the letter and more about this family.

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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 8:52 PM
Subject: help please

I'm helping a friend do her BURNS family history..ran into a problem. We know that the father of WARWICK W BURNS of Bath County VA is JOHN H BURNS (Warwick W) b. 1801 d. 1862 who married ELIZABETH MONROE ROBERTS. From there, it gets sketchy due to conflicting records that others have done.

Was JOHN H BURNS the son of JOSEPH BURNS b. 1772 who married KATE KEIFFER? If so, his father would either be JOHN BURNS b. 1747 or JOHN BURNS b. 1755 who m. MARY SHIPE OR MARY ?

From there one account is that JOHN BURNS who m. MARY was the son of PETER BURNS who m. EVA BARBARA GOETTEL from Wurtenburg, Germany.

If we follow the line previously done by another, this would take us to JOHN BURNES who m. AGNES CHISHOLM and beyond. But since I'm not sure about the previous connection, I'm a bit at a loss. Can you help?


Date: Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:56:23 -0400 From: Trasher
I happened across your site doing a search for the Burns family and found entries that matched my wifes line.

Concerning the entry on your page about John H. Burns (Joseph) born 11/6/1801 to 12/2/1862 wife Elizabeth Roberts Abt 1807 to 1885. According to the records I have he was the son of Joseph Burns and Katherine Kieffer. John had a son named Charles Burns (John H; Joseph; John I; Peter; William; John) but I have no dates or places on them nor a John Arthur Burns listed at all. Joseph's father & Mother was John Burns I & Mary Shipe. His grandfather & Grandmother was Peter Burns and Eva Barbara Goettel and his g grandfather and g grandmother William Burns and Elizabeth Vernon. His gg grandfather and gg grandmother was John Burns and Agness Chisholm. Again I have no dates or places for these names. This is my wife's line. I would appreciate any help out there to fill in the blanks for her.

I have seen the Kate Keiffer you have in two other locations including my copy listed as Kieffer with the first name using a K and a C. After seeing yours listed as Kate I'll bet her name was spelled Katherine. Thank you.
Jim Vetor 1362 Robinson Dr Fairborn, OH 45324 937-241-4177




Generation No. 1
1. RHONDA HAMILTON (THOMAS), b. 1846 Owsley Co, KY d. 2/11/1929 Island City, Owsley Co, KY.
3. MARY "POLLY" BURNS (JOHN "JACK"; WILLIAM; CHARLES; GEORGE) m. 1st 1863 to LEWIS OLDHAM b. 1843 Boone Co, KY m. 2nd 12/10/1884 Lee Co KY to ELIJAH ROBERTS "WHITE LIGE" BEGLEY b. 12/12/1827 Perry Co, KY d. 9/2/1897 in Welchburg, Jackson Co, KY.

KY Census 1870 Owsley Co, Travelers Rest Pct, HH # 232/228:


Generation No. 2

2. THOMAS HAMILTON (PATRICK JR & SARAH STIVERS; PATRICK) b. 2/3/1819 d. 2/27/1897 m. 6/18/1840 Clay Co, KY to MARY "POLLY" BURNS b. 12/31/1822 d. 2/19/1902 Clay Co, KY. She is thought to be the daughter of 6. JOHN "JACK" BURNS (WILLIAM) and 7. ?? (Burns).

KY Census:
1850 Owsley Co, Travelers Rest, HH # 499
1860 Owsley Co, Travelers Rest, HH # 188


i. SARAH HAMILTON, b. 1841.
ii. JOHN S "SPEED" HAMILTON, b. 4/30/1843 d. 9/30/1915 m. MARTHA ISAACS b. 6/30/1853 d. 8/16/1931.
iii. THOMAS HAMILTON b. 1844.
1 iv. RHODA HAMILTON b. 1846 Owsley Co, KY; d. 2/11/1929 Island City, Owsley Co, KY m. 1st LEWIS OLDHAM 1863 m. 2nd 12/10/1884 Lee Co, KY.
v. MARGARET J HAMILTON, born 1849.
vi. ELIZABETH HAMILTON, born 1852.
vii. LUCY A HAMILTON, b. 1857.
viii. LITITIA HAMILITON, b. 1859

Generation No. 3

4. PATRICK HAMILTON JR (PATRICK & ISABEL FARIS) b. 1784 Chester Dist SC d. 2/1860 Owsley Co KY m. SARAH "SALLY" STIVERS b. 1791

KY census:
1810 Clay Co pg 158 1m 1f 16-26, 1f 0-10,
1830 Clay Co pg 169 1m 40-50, 1f 30-40, 1m 10-15, 1m 2f 5-10, 3 m 0-5,
1850 Owsley Co, Travelers Rest, HH # 498

1860 Owsley Co, Travelers Rest, HH # 146 (Sally is head of HH, evidently Patrick died prior to census)


iii. WESLEY HAMILTON b. 1829 m. DEBORAH b. 1833.
iv. ELISHA B HAMILTON b. 1832 m. NANCY b. 1836.
v. RANDOLPH HAMILTON b. 1835 m. SUSAN b. 1840.

6. JOHN "JACK" BURNS (WILLIAM & SARAH BISHOP; CHARLES; GEORGE), b. 1798 SC d. Owsley Co, KY m. 1820 to _______ b. 1800.

Children of JOHN "JACK" BURNS (WILLIAM; CHARLES; GEORGE) and ?? (Burns) are:

i. SARAH BURNS (John "Jack"; William; Charles I; George) b. 1/16/1821 Owsley Co, KY d. 12/18/1904 Levi, Owsley Co, KY m. 1/16/1842 to LEVI ROSS b. 4/21/1816 Estill Co, KY d. 11/17/1882 Levi, Owsley Co, KY.
3 ii. MARY "POLLY" BURNS (JOHN "JACK"; WILLIAM; CHARLES I; GEORGE) b. 12/31/1822 d. 2/19/1902 m. 6/18/1840 Clay Co KY to THOMAS HAMILTON.

Generation No. 4

8. PATRICK HAMILTON b. 1760 m. to ISABEL FARIS b. 1760

KY census 1810 Clay Co pg 158 1m 1f 45+, 1f 16-26.


4 i. PATRICK HAMILTON JR b. 1784 Chester Dist, SC d. 2/1860 Owsley Co, KY m. SARAH "SALLY" STIVERS.

12. WILLIAM BURNS (CHARLES BURNS & MARY WEBB, GEORGE) b. 1756 Pittsylvania Co VA d. 1845 Clay Co, KY m. 1778 Wilkes Co NC to SARAH BISHOP b. 1760 Halifax Virginia area (Henry - Pittsylvania Co's)

The NC Census of 1784-1785 lists WILLIAM BURNS with 4 children. This family group sheet says he is probably buried at Old Bishop Cemetery at Newfound Creek, Clay County, KY. 2nd wife may have been NANCY CHANDLER.

Grants in County Court Orders by WILLARD R JILLSON Vol. II has WILLIAM BURNS in Owsley County KY Watercourse of Buffalo Creek and Harrison Br. His Children have property here and in Clay County. See proof book.

The following account is by TOM R WALTERS of 406 N. Perkins Street Leesburg, Florida 32748

The ancestry of the BURNS family of Clay and Owsley Counties KY is WILLIAM BURNS (CHARLES, GEORGE), a Revolutionary War soldier, b. abt 1756, probably in what was to become Henry Co Virginia but then Halifax County.

WILLIAM BURNS does not name the place of his birth in his pension application as a war veteran, but his brother ANDREW BURNS (CHARLES, GEORGE), who made pension application from Perry Co Ky, says that he, ANDREW, was born in Henry County VA.

ANDREW and WILLIAM also enlisted in the same military outfit; ANDREW in Henry County VA and WILLIAM in neighboring Pittsylvania County VA.

Revolutionary War Veteran, pension # S16669.
WILLIAM BURNS, Clay County Kentucky pension application
This is an overview of the Revolutionary War pension application of WILLIAM BURNS.

WILLIAM BURNS was born in the State of Virginia, no dates given
He enlisted in Pittsylvania County VA
Served as a private against the Cherokee Indians, in CAPTAIN JOSEPH MARTINS company in COLONEL CHRISTIE'S Virginia regiment, and was discharged at the Long Islands of Holston in Tennessee having served nine months.
He enlisted the same day that he was discharged and served six months in CAPTAIN MARTINS company under MAJOR BLETCHER in defense of the frontier.

Shortly before the battle of RAMSOUR'S Mill, he enlisted in Wilkes County NC to serve in CAPTAIN MICAJAH LEWIS'S company in COLONEL GORDON'S NC Regiment, soon after his enlistment he hired a substitute, JONATHAN HICKMAN, to serve in his stead. He gave no dates of any of his service, but stated that all of his service was rendered prior to the battle of King's Mountain.

He was allowed pension on his application executed October 23, 1832, then a resident of Clay Co, KY and was seventy six years of age.

Personal Note: 76 in 1832 WILLIAM Burns would have been b. abt 1756.


i. ____ BURNS
ii. BRICE BURNS (CHARLES, GEORGE), b. 1780 Wilkes Co NC m. 1802.
Kentucky Land Grant by WILLARD R JILLSON Vol 1 BRICE BURNS and ANDREW BURNS have 200 Acres Bk 16 P 219 Date surveyed 3-2-1814 County Clay Watercourse Bullskin Creek.
iii. ANDREW BURNS (CHARLES, GEORGE), b. 1785 Wilkes Co NC d. 5/17/1857 Clay Co KY m. 12/10/1822 Clay Co KY to NANCY ANN BAKER b. 1/12/1803 Cortland, Madison Co KY d. 1849 Owsley Co, KY. Cortland Cem., Owsley Co., KY
iv. WILLIAM BURNS b. 1797 in NC d. Owsley Co, KY m. 9/3/1824 to RACHEL ASHER b. 1809 KY.

1860 Owsley County Kentucky Census: 696-710
BURNS, WILLIAM 62 M Farmer $1200 $1500 NC
RACHEL Burns 52 F Ky
JOHN Burns 24 M Farmer Ky
WILEY Burns 22 M Farmer Ky
ZILPHA Burns 20 F Domst. Ky
NANCY Burns 19 F Domst. Ky
SARAH Burns 17 F Domst. Ky
JOICE Burns 15 F Domst. Ky
FRANCIS Burns 12 M Ky
MARY Burns 8 F Ky

1870 Owsley County Kentucky Census: 37-34
BURNS, RACHEL 62 F Keeping House KY.
MARY Burns 18 F KY.
JAMES Burns 7 M KY

BURNS, FRANCIS Burns 22 M Farm Labor KY.
MARY J. Burns 20 F House Keeper KY.
RACHEL Burns 11/12 F KY.

6 v. JOHN "JACK" BURNS (WILLIAM, CHARLES, GEORGE) b. 1798 SC d. Owsley Co, KY m. 1st 1820 to _______ m. 2nd 9/13/1836 Clay Co KY to LOUISA COMBS.
vi. MARY BURNS (WILLIAM, CHARLES, GEORGE) b. 1800 d. 1850 Clay Co KY m. 11/17/1816 Clay Co KY to HEZEKIAH CROOK.
vii. WILEY BURNS (WILLIAM, CHARLES, GEORGE) b. 1802 d. 1879 Morgan Co, IN m. 8/30/18921 Clay Co KY to PODY BAKER.
viii. SARAH BURNS (WILLIAM, CHARLES, GEORGE) b. 1803 VA d. 4/20/1881 Clay Co KY m. 4/10/1817 Clay Co KY to WILLIAM BISHOP.
ix. KEZIAH BURNS (WILLIAM, CHARLES, GEORGE) b. 1805 KY m. 3/17/1821 Clay Co KY to JOHN BAKER.

Generation No. 5

24. CHARLES BURNS (GEORGE) b. 1710 Scotland d. 4/3/1789
48. GEORGE BURNS came to the America from Scotland in 1737 m. 1745 VA to MARY WEBB b. 1725 Goochland Co VA d. Henry Co, VA. Couple divorced Spring of 1779.

References to CHARLES BURNS (GEORGE) and sons in the Henry and Pittsylvania County VA records.

1). Henry Co. Deed Book #, p. 71. In 1753 deed is shown for 400 acres on the head of the South Fork of Terrible Creek.
2). 1767 - CHARLES BURNS is on list of tithables of Pittsylvania County along with sons ALEXANDER BURNS (Charles; George) and SAMUEL BURNS (Charles; George).
3). 1777 - CHARLES BURNS swore oath of Allegiance to the United States along with sons ANDREW BURNS (Charles; George), WILLIAM BURNS (Charles; George) and JOHN BURNS (Charles; George).
4) . 1782-87 CHARLES BURNS is listed as a Henry County taxpayer.


I, CHARLES BURNS, SR (George) of Henry County, State of Virginia being sick and weak in body but of perfect mind and memory thanks be to Almighty God Calling unto mind the mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die do make and ordain this my last will and testament, that is to say:
Principally and first of all, I give and recommend my soul into the hands of Almighty God that gave it me and my body I recommend to the Earth to be buried in a Christian Burial at the direction of my Executors and as touching my Worldly Estate wherewith it has pleased God to bless me with in this life, I give and dispose of in the following manner and form;

I give and bequeath unto my Dearly beloved wife ANN BURNS my land whereon I now live, my stock all kinds, my house hold furniture, my working tools as long as she may live, then to be disposed of in the following manner to wit; at the desire of my dearly beloved wife, ANN BURNS;

what remains to be sold and divided amongst my children as followeth;
I give to my son ALEXANDER BURNS (Charles Sr; George) on Shilling Sterling,
I give unto my son SAMUEL BURNS (Charles Sr; George) one Shilling Sterling,
I give unto my son JOHN BURNS (Charles Sr; George) one Shilling Sterling,
I give to my son CHARLES BURNS JR (Charles Sr; George) one Shilling Sterling;
then the balance that remains to be equally divided between by son ANDREW BURNS (Charles Sr; George) and WILLIAM BURNS (Charles Sr; George) whom I make my whole and sole Exec. of this my last Will and Testament.
In Witness Wherof I have hereunto set my hand this 3rd. day of April in the year of our Lord God 1789

Note: Signed Sealed & Delivered his Note: in the Presence of us CHARLES B BURNS L.S.
Note: JNO. PACE mark
Note: his
Note: mark

Children of CHARLES BURNS and MARY WEBB are:

i. JOHN ARTHUR BURNS (Charles Sr; George) b. 1747 Pittsylvania Co VA d. 1/29/1805 Haywood Co NC m. 9/10/1773 Henry Co VA to NANCY ANN NICHOLS b. 5/1754 NC d. 10/16/1848 Deliwood NC.
ii. ALEXANDER BURNS (Charles Sr; George) b. 1749 Pittsylvania Co VA d. 11/1829 AL m. 9/7/1779 Wilkes Co NC to MARY ELLEN ROACH b. 1746 NC d. 1829 Blount Co, AL.

Revolutionary War Pension Application # R-6770.
iii. CHARLES BURNS Jr (Charles Sr; George) b. 1753 Pittsylvania Co VA d. AL.
iv. SAMUEL BURNS (Charles Sr; George) b. 9/17/1754 Pittsylvania Co VA d. 12/1/1837 York Co, SC m. 7/26/1781 VA to MARY LESLIE b. 1762 d. 2/2/1848 York Co SC.
12 v. WILLIAM BURNS (Charles Sr; George) b. 1756 Pittsylvania Co, VA d. 1845 Clay Co KY m. 1st 1778 Wilkes Co NC to SARAH BISHOP m. 2ND to NANCY CHANDLER.
vi. ANDREW S BURNS (Charles Sr; George) b. 1757 Pittsylvania Co VA d. 1835 Ondeida, Clay Co KY. Revolutionary War Veteran Pension #S-30296.
vii. ANN BURNS (Charles Sr; George)b. 1759 Henry Co VA; d. 1782 Wilkes Co NC m. 10/21/1778 Wilkes Co NC to JOHN JETT b. 1755.
viii. SUSAN BURNS (Charles Sr; George) b. 1772 Henry Co VA d. 1851 Clark Co MS m. 1786 to JOHN COSBY.

Generation No. 6

48. GEORGE BURNS b. 1680 Scotland.

24 i. CHARLES BURNS Sr (George) b. 1710 Scotland d. 4/3/1789 m. 1st 1745 VA to MARY WEBB m. 2nd 1779 HENRY CO VA to ANN REA.

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Family Record

This account is a letter sent to me by Dawn Gibson On some account of the Burns Family, of Blount County, Alabama, and by their relation by intermarriage, since the immigration into this country, about on hundred and fifty years ago.

To my dear brother, Alfred Burns, of Navarro County, Texas, and his branch of our family, this genealogical sketch is dedicated to his “Long time Brother”, Calvin Alex Burns of Bangor, Blount County, Alabama.

************** My Dear Brother and all your numerous family: I take pleasure in giving you these sketches, stating to you that I am, or rather “we” are indebted to our dear Aunt Crecy Burns, widow of our Uncle Alexander Burns, who, as you know, was older than our father and mother.

While attending the Sulphur Springs Association, about the year 1870, I learned that our dear Aunt was with her Granddaughter, Mrs. Geo. W. Reed and husband near the place of our meeting, and I took pleasure of visiting the dear aged relative, as well as the family of Bro. Reed. To my surprise and delight, I found Aunt Crecy in common health and blessed with good mind and memory, at the great age of ninety years.

On my telling her that I wished to get some more account of our family than we had ever obtained from our dear parents, she pleased to give me an account of the old progenitor, our Great Grandfather Charles Burns Sr (George) who, she said, came from the “Old Country”, and was called the old Scotchman, yet it was always an open question whether the venerable man and his family were directly from Scotland or from Ireland, being of Scotch origin.

The family settled in Culpepper County, Virginia. The time of such settlement, our dear Aunt did not offer to give, nor of his probable at the time. She remembered well the name of the family of his wife, which was Webb, Mary Webb was the name of our Great Grandmother. They raised a numerous family of sons and daughters, about equal in number. The statement of our dear Aunt was that her information, as gathered from the parents of her husband, was that many years before the birth of her husband, Alexander Burns Jr (Alexander Sr), his father Alex Burns Sr, his brother John Burns (Alexander Sr), and others of the family left the Old Virginia Country and settled in Pendleton District, South Carolina, where our Grandfather, Alex and other brothers and perhaps sisters settled there near to our Grandfather, Alex. So much for the information obtained from our dear Aunt Crecy Burns; the balance of this sketch will be of information of our parents and other relatives, together with our own observations.

Our Grandfather, Alexander Burns, remained with his numerous family on his South Carolina home in prosperity until his family outgrew his farm, he sold out his home, principally for wagons and horse teams, and moved into the highlands of Rhea County, East Tennessee, and bought a large tract of rich land on a small river, a tributary of the noble Tennessee River. The wife of our grandfather was Ellen Roach, and they had many sons and daughters born to them at their Pendleton (S. C.) home. Namely: Amos Burns (Alexander Sr), Samuel Burns (Alexander Sr), Alexander Burns Jr (Alexander Sr), Susan Burns (Alexander Sr), Leah Burns (Alexander Sr), Nancy Burns (Alexander Sr), Jane Burns (Alexander Sr), Mary Burns (Alexander Sr), Jonathon Burns (Alexander Sr), and Stephen Burns (Alexander Sr).

The first two sons named remained in South Carolina with their uncle John Burns and other relatives, while the others came with their parents to their East Tennessee home, and all joined together in building houses and clearing and fencing land for, perhaps, two or three years, when another but older purchaser put in appearance with his demands for possession. But our Grandfather had paid for the land in good wagons and teams and, perhaps, a liberal amount of money and, of course, a lawsuit was the result, long and expensive. The Burnses lost and came out poor.

Our Father, Jonathan Burns, having served three, six-month tours with the illustrious General Andrew Jackson in chastising and subduing the hostile Creek Indians in the East and Southeast Alabama Territory and returning home to his parents in the spring of 1815, and in the Fall time he became acquainted with a Miss Martha Richards, eldest daughter of John Richards, and the acquaintance resulted in affection and they were married in Rhea County East Tennessee on the 15th of November, 1815. The other brothers and sisters of our father were married in the South Carolina and Tennessee Country except Nancy and Stephen. Of the families of Amos and Samuel, we have no account. Our uncle Alex was some years older than our father, perhaps born about 1780, and married Lucrecy Horton in North Georgia, a very excellent woman, and they had sixteen children born to them, 13 sons and three daughters, 14 lived to man and womanhood, to-witt: Charles, John, Elija and Elish, twins; Alexander, Reazin, Daniel, Elen, Olive, Calvin, Wade, and Elizie. The other grown children I can’t remember; besides there were two died in infancy, named respectively, Jonathan and Miles.

The eldest sister, Susan, was married to William Robertson, a good, intelligent man, and they sought a home and settled in Mcnairy County, West Tennessee. After the death of her good husband, our Aunt Susan and son-in-law, Fulton, paid us a visit in the fall of 1836.

Nancy raised a family of three sons and three daughters, namely: Celia, Absalom, Joe, and Johnson, Margarett and Minerva. But the mother was never married. She came to this Alabama County with other relatives, raised her family, was a member of the church, was a woman of deep charity and much sympathy. I was with her in her last sufferings and death. Saw her die and closed her eyes in presence of her son Johnson, and our father, and our uncle Stephen, near the present William Rice home, in September 1852. The body was buried at the Huffman graveyard on Thackers Creek.

Mary was married to Mark Robertson and they moved from this Blount County, Alabama country to Franklin County, South Illinois. We had correspondence with her in her widowhood before the late war. She wrote well of her family, saying that they were good members of the church and were liberally educated. Several of her children lived in Franfort, the County town. Jane was married to Alex Glenn and they, too, moved to that fertile but rigorous country of Illinois. But we have no account of them, only some letters of complaint soon after they went, which was as far back, perhaps, as 1825.

Of Leah, it was said that she was married to one Jackson Walker. Leah raised three sons and one daughter, Guilford, Allen, Jeremiah, and Jane. Some of their descendants were in Limestone and Lauderdale Counties, North Alabama, and Lawrence County, Tennessee in 1881. I met with a worthy son of Allen a mechanic at the Lawrenceburg factory. He was an accomplished gentleman.

Of that numerous family of our Uncle Alex, they lived with their parents until their man and womanhood, and carried on a good farm business, and kept up a good stock of horses, cattle and hogs; having a good sale for all such stock, grain and provisions, being located on the Turnpike or Stage Road, two miles west of the present Reeds Cap(Gap) Station on the L & N Railroad. Several of the sons remained near to their parents after they had families, administering to the wants of their parents. The dear father becoming greatly afflicted with rheumatism and asthma, that prohibited him from lying on a bed for many very many years. He died in full faith of a good hereafter at his home in February 1852. The dear widow, Aunt Crecy, survived him for more than a score of years, and was in great consolation to her children and friends. Being a scholar as well as a lady, she was an instructor, religiously and otherwise, in any family that was blessed with her company. We don’t know of but one son, Alex, and one daughter, Olive. Alex and his aged wife lives with their youngest son, near the old home on the Mountaintop. They are very good people and are comfortable and contented with a small share of the goods of “this world”. Olive is a widow of a score of years and has a home with her son in the northwest corner of Cullman County, and is an accomplished lady and having good business abilities. She and the brother, Alex and wife are good working members of the Baptist Church. Of our uncle Stephen, he was younger than our father, born about 1792, and came to this country, a bachelor, and remained single for more than 50 years. Yet he had a good farm on the Mulberry River, now part of the Rices’s farm. Kept a good stock of horses, cattle, hogs and sheep. He married an elderly lady named Milly Jett, and they had four children born to them, three of whom were raised to man and womanhood, namely: Stephen, Naomi, and Mary, who have comfortable homes and are acceptable members of the Baptist Church and reside in the southwest corner of Cullman County. Our Uncle Stephen was a hardy son of toil, always had money, lived for his family and friends, but seldom went to church. After I was grown, I was his first-rate friend and confidant. And when he became sixty (?) five years old and looked to be much older, her was stricken down with pneumonia and violent fever. He sent for me to come to him and write his Will. I left my cotton gin work and hastened to him, taking a doctor to him, and I and the doctor stayed with him seven days and nights, doing all that love and humanity would prompt, but we went too late. I wrote his will and watched his suffering with other kind friends, including my father. When on the eve of the 26th day of January, 1856, he breathed his last. I closed his eyes and tried to console the distressed mother and weeping children. The dear uncle had never made any pretensions to religion, was fully assured of his approaching death, could not confide in the promised mercies of the Great Heavenly Father. Was deeply penitent, yet in despair. We prayed for him and exhorted him to take the promised blessings of the Gospel. He listened attentively and was fully conscious of his condition, deeply penitent for his sins and yet he could not take to himself any hope, calling himself, “The Old Wretch.” The old wretch that I’ve been may be, maybe so that our honest hearted, our kind hearted, the penitent uncle Stephen was blessed in his last penitent moments of life and was “Saved”. Who knows? Two or three days before his death, he gave particular instructions that in the burial of his body to be sure to have the coffin wide enough, as deep enough, so that his body would not be crowded, all of which I took particular care to have done. We buried the body on the second morning, about a mile east of his home, on the highlands, north of Rice and Sanders Schoolhouse, where many others had been buried. Let us always respect the memory of our dear Uncle Stephen.

Our dear father, Jonathan Burns, was two or three years older than our uncle Stephen, was born at the old South Carolina home on the 8th day of February, 1790; came with his parents and other relatives, as has been noticed, passing through the hardships of an Army life, such as was common at that time and after an honorable discharge joining in with his parents and family in the home employments until the time of his marriage to our dear mother, as has been noticed. Our mother was the eldest daughter of John Richards and wife, who were then on the move from North Georgia into that East Tennessee Country. Our grandfather Richards was a son of a Welchman of respectability and proud of ancestry. We have no account as to the name of our grandmother Richards or her family name. We only have the information that she died soon after the birth of her youngest son, but have no other information as to the time or place.

More of our grandfather Richards hereafter. Also more of our Grandfather Burns hereafter.

In the latter part of the year 1819 our father and mother, together with several of his brothers-in-law, also his father and mother, including their bachelor son, Stephen, and the elder brother, Alex, and family sold out their homes and most of their stock and took up the line of march to find the rich lands of Alabama Territory, such as our father had seen while with General Jackson, in building blat boats to ship army supplies as hauled to the head of the Coastal Shoals, down that river to different points where several army divisions were operating. The planks for these boats were sawed by hand.

When our father and friends arrived at the crossing of the noble Tennessee River at fort Deposit, near Gunter’s Landing, they met up with some of their East Tennessee friends, who had been with General Coffee, who had canvassed the Mulberry River country and other rivers south, where the hostile Creek Indians had towns, and they were induced to join them.

They took “Coffee’s Trace”, as the roadway was called, which led them near Warrenton is now located, thence through Browns Valley, thence on in the Bear Meat Valley to the Bear Meat Indians’ home and business place (near present town of Blountsville). So much of their way was held as Cherokee Territory. Thence southwest direction along what is now the Blountsville and Blountsprings passing what is now and has been for at least three scores of years, regarded the Great Saratoga of our Southern States. The Sulphur Springs or Blount Springs, their “trail” or roadway led them down the Mulberry River by the way of Perkins, or Maverick Bend, of the river where there was an Indian town, as was at the mouth of the Mulberry at Phillips Ferry. But our father and his relatives settled on, and near to lands now owned and occupied by the Rice brothers; some of the families settling on the beautiful highlands, south between the two rivers (Mulberry and Black Warrior). The country had not been surveyed, nor the lands offered for sale to settlers, so these settlements at a “haphazard” or at risk to the settler. But they settled, as others had done two or three years before them. Mostly further down the Mulberry, and on the fine creek lands and uplands.

Our mother and father settled near where Preston Rice now lives, south of the mouth of Mariots Creek. There being about 100 acres of first rate land in a compact body south of the river, and a fine body of upland adjoining and some way from the river, our father built a house and cleared a respectable sized field on this upland, planted and cultivated a crop of corn and other things, and had something to sell and to give to his neighbors, when they saw them. Also to the U S Surveyors and their hired men, when they came or worked and camped near by in the Fall of 1820, the family having lived on the home for about twelve months.

While the surveying was in progress and the campers visiting the fields of our neighborhood, a respectable, elderly gentleman of the camp came to call at our father’s house and recognized him immediately as one of his acquaintances from Pendleton, C H Samuel Maverick. And old Sam had business on his brain, after compliments of civility and friendship, he asked our father whether he was going to the Huntsville Land sale, which was to begin in a few months (1st of December 1820). Our father told him no, giving as a reason that he had not the money to make the first payment on his home of land. “Well,” said Mr. Maverick, he marked this section, and if it doesn’t go too high I expect to buy it unless you are there to buy it yourself.” So our father did not go to the sale, and Mr. Maverick bought all the bottom land on the Mulberry except for a mile of narrow bottom, for about five miles up the river, including our home and cleared land.

Our father moved on to a piece of good creek land, south and adjoining to his “lost labor”. He built a house and cleared and fenced another respectable sized field, cultivated it, and in the fall time expected to enter his home at Government price, $125. But before he could gather his crop and sell some fat cattle, Bob Fulton, a settler near by, rides his way to Huntsville and “enters him out”. Still our father refrained from destroying his neighbor. “Try again” was his resolution, and he moved about two miles south into a very fertile cove of land, wherein was, and is, the Big Spring. No disturbance there and in good time he entered one hundred and twenty acres, which was a pattern for a two horse farm of good land. Time and health, brawn and brain—in a few years the better houses were built and floored with plank, sawed by hand and dressed, and old John Parker got up the nice tables and bedsteads of black walnut timber. Field after field was cleared and well fenced, exuberant crops of corn, wheat, oats, potatoes were grown each year, besides much other good things in the garden. Meantime there was a handsome income from the milk, butter, beef, honey, as the wonderful provision of deer and turkeys, besides coons, possums, squirrels, to say nothing of the fish and other small fry. Our parents and family enjoyed this delightful home for about eleven years (from early part of 1822 to February 15, 1833).

During this long time in this garden of a Country, with all its blessings and benefits, as well as its hardships and inconveniences, the ministers of religion and the schoolteachers were abroad in the land with much energy. There was a Baptist Church on the Mulberry at New Baltimore at an early day and had the preaching of such worthy and efficient men as William Case, John Fowler, Thomas Jones, Phillip Archer, and no doubt others. These men were worthy and qualified to fill a large space in the community in which they labored dispensing the word of life in the Gospel to these hardy, warm-hearted people. Our father and mother professed their faith in the Ever Blessed Savior, and the pardon of their sins, and were baptized into the fellowship of this church by Elder William Case about the year 1830. Many honest, warm-hearted people have rejoiced together in and about that old log church house, near William Dunn’s storehouse, who are now situated and conditioned, as we of the living soon shall be.

There was a Methodist Church further down the river at an early day. Perhaps located about where Shiloh is and has been for many years, a short distance north of the Albritton Mills. The ministers in the pioneer work were generally from the Blountsville church and mission, such as Peter Faust, the oldest one that came, William Faust and his brother, David. These were the father and brothers of the late Samuel Faust, our long time merchant friend at Blount Springs. There was one ”Cotton”, a stranger to the country, but was called a strong man in his calling. Also there was one James Moore, who was always called “Little Jimmie Moore”. His home was somewhere near to the Price’s Mill, on the Mulberry river settlement, and he was an efficient family visitor and Gospel Worker. Ever a welcome guest with the families, in a large circle of settlers, both of the sick and the poor. The first schoolteacher then came into our part of the colony was an English gentleman, a bachelor of about 30 years. The school was located on the 16 Section of Township 13 of Range 3 West, about two miles north of our home. First School was taught about 1830. Another school taught later, Three of the brothers attended these schools and made good progress in their studies, as this scribe was to young and much too small to attend the schools.

I will now give some account of our father’s family. While in their East Tennessee home, there were two sons born to them – Stephen, on the 25th of September, 1816, John on the 7th of May, 1818; and at the first home on the Mulberry Susan was born on the 16th of March, 1820; and at the Cove farm, near Reeds Gap Depot on the L & N Railroad, Alfred was born on the 30th of December, 1822, Also an infant son older than himself and one younger, neither survived to know life. At the same place, Mary Ann was born on the 17th of March 1829. At the same place Jonathan was born on the 2nd day of July 1831.

Our parents and family, while living at this lovely little home were prosperous and happy. It required a capacious barn and cribs to house their produce. Our grandfather and grandmother Burns had lived near to them on their little home on the mountainside, contented with their lot, were warm-hearted, religious old people, until the Fall of 1829 when they were about 80 years old, they were both stricken down with pleurisy or pneumonia, and our grandfather died about November and our grandmother about the Christmas. They were both buried near their little home, which is now a beautiful cedar grove. At the same graveyard, our uncle Alex, Aunt Crecy, Their daughter, Elizie, and no doubt others of the family of uncle Alex. Peace to their memory.

Our Father and the eldest brothers, Stephen and John with hired men, continued to improve the farm, raise good stock, and sell young horses at a hundred dollars each. Cattle and hogs in proportion, which was raised mainly in the fine range, built a respectable mill for the time, when about the fall of 1831 he decided that his pattern for a farm was too small for his family (and his ambition), and he sold out to his neighbor, Rafe Thorp, and in his inquiries about opportunities to secure a larger and better home, he met with one of the church brethren near us, who lived near the mouth of Thackers Creek, who informed him that the wide, rich lands on that Creek was vacant land from Maverick’s Eighty Tract for four miles up the Creek north. This brother (John McCollum) invited our father to go home with him, promised to show him the land, and explain the numbers marked on the trees at the Section Corners, which yet plain to be seen in most cases. The result of this examination was that they took the numbers of the bottomland for two miles, beginning at the southwest corner of Section 24, thence north, through that Section (and part of 23 West and adjoining) and on north through Section 13, in Township 12 Range 3 West.

He went to Huntsville Land office in the Fall of 1832, armed with buck-skin haversack, well filled with silver dollars, and was accompanied by his neighbor, Aron Dutton, who went on a similar business. But before our father went to enter land, he visited four settlers who had small fields cleared on the land he wished to enter, and one of them lived on his improvement, and offered to buy their labor. Everyone said, “yes, I’ll sell, seeing that the ‘coons and squirrels destroy about half I make”, and a fair and friendly purchase was made of every man’s improvement. Two of them moved a short distance into Walker County and others remained, and they were all our friends to help us roll logs and shuck corn. Thus doubly armed with money and a good conscience, our father entered at a dollar and twenty-five cents per acre about 200 acres and returned home and began preparations to move to the new home on Thackers Creek, finishing a log house that was partly built; also substantial stables and other buildings, where D. I. Huffman now lives. The winter was mainly occupied in building lots for the stock and clearing of five acres of land of all the timber for the nice lot of apple grafts of the John fowler North Carolina fruit. When the time came around for the moving day (15th Feb. 1832), there was anxiety in the family. The big brothers, mother and the baby boy went with the wagon by way of the stage ford on the Mulberry, while our father and the balance of the family went the near way, on foot, crossing the river a quarter of a mile above the mouth of the Thackers Creek. But, Oh! The Crossing was the trouble! Our little sister, Polly Ann 4 years old, did not want to get into “that trough” (a poplar dugout). Her sufferings were terrible, begging that we “Go back. Yes, let’s go back home”. But after a passing over of a portion of the family and a promise to her by our father that he would kill her “two big turkeys”, she was induced to take the terrible risk of floating over the river in “that trough”.

Our trail way led us through the John McCollum farm and near by his house. Thence north on the upland, east of the Thacker bottoms, by the home of Kinchen Gamble, Jacob McCollum, William Bryan, and Jacob Moody, and to our new home.

Our first great anxiety was, “Will the wagon come?” Meantime, we children were “looking around”, curiously viewing the big oak and poplar stumps, from which the big rails were made for the stock lots and to enclose the house. The stables were big, with high loft of flat rails. The wagon and the big boys came, all in good time, and soon it was home, and we were content. The work of planting and cultivating began. The little fields of bottom and upland lay on and near the Creek, a distance about two miles, and only made about 25 acres. One big task was to canvass all these fields, morning and evening, to make war on the squirrels, and it was my task to tote these squirrels about a “Bakers Dozen” each trip, which lasted until they had no little corn to scratch. Soon the first planting had, the roasting ears and the depredation was renewed by the squirrels,3 and our warfare was renewed on them; and these active exercises continued until the corn was gathered into the crib. A much high rail pen, and we had plenty.

In the fall time, the same old “School Master”, James E. Nelson, came to Thacker, and the settlers built him a big log house with a big chimney, west of the Creek, opposite to the present home of Elder James Cooper, it took the settlers all the way up Thacker, to Nathan Taylor (Julia and Margarett); William Box (two big girls and a little boy); Greenberry Reed (Calaway and Peninah); our family (Stephen, John, Susan, Alfred and this Scribe, Alex); Mose Roberts, close to the school house (Sarah Ann & John); three mile east on the Mulberry River, Thomas McMurry (Sallie, Mary, Betsey and Hettie); three miles south, Joe Pullum ((Argerine and another big girl, and Malissa); next four miles away, west on Mariots Creek, Robert Pickle (Madison , Christopher, George and Sallie); Dover Mariot; William Henson (Buck and another boy, and a girl); a Mr. Turkynet (Nathan and Phili); Kinchen Gamble ( Sam and Permilia), near James Gamble’s home.

What distances we traveled! But sure we put in more than the eight hours per day, and we learned a great deal about “Webster’s Old Easy Standard”, the spelling book of that day. During that school, the teacher got married to one of his students Miss Elen Hare. After a while we “turned the teacher out” and made him treat, and several were treated to much.

Meantime, there was a new baby brother born to our mother on the 13th day of January, 1834, and when planting time came on, all hide away to the numerous fields for planting and cultivation, including the big “new ground” west of the house and to the Creek. I was taken from school and detailed to wait upon that boy, Sam, and it was a task extraordinary. That and the calves, chickens and garden work occupied most of my time for the year. Meantime our mother was my teacher and companion as well. We bore the burdens of the day, and had a good provision of pine knots laid in for a half night’s work of carding and spinning. The big sister, having wrought in the fields, was allowed to retire when her father and the big brothers did. But many nights, or half the night, was spent by them in making war on the ‘coons. Half a dozen was a common in gathering each night. The killing of these sharp little animals served a three-fold purpose – we got his fine fat meat and his hide, and took him away from the corn. Meantime our dear mother and this scribe were making good progress in getting up the something to eat and much thread to clothe the big family. And the little seven-year old boy and the Mother teacher was making good progress in the spelling book, the hymnbook, and after a while, the Bible Book. All the while Sam boy came in for a large share of our (my) time.

We were a prosperous and a happy family. The Baptist Church members of Baltimore moved their meetings to our schoolhouse and good ministers came and preached the words of Life and Salvation to the hardy settlers of Thacker. Elders William Case, John Fowler, John Musgrove, Thomas Jones and others were of those servants of the churches, and many women and a few men gave good heed to the Gospel Messages, joined the church and were baptized in Thacker. Among them were our neighbors, Mrs. Box, Mrs. Reed, Edward Swain, wife and daughters, (Mahala) Peterson, our brother John and wife, Betsey, our sister Susan. But, Oh, the sad short comings of this neighborhood, for the next ten years, from 1838 to 1848. Not a member added to the church and but few sermons preached, no Sabbath schools, and but few literary schools. But much fiddling and dancing, much whiskey and brandy, much shooting matches, horseracing and other dissipation bore the sway. Ten long lost years. Worse than lost to that goodly land of Thackers Creek, like an eclipse of the sun, for the time. Woe to the inhabitants of Thacker. Woe is all of us today because of that terrible abandonment of the work of the flesh. In 1848, the church and neighbor were aroused to a sense of their condition, and had a mind for religious meetings and by the preaching of the Gospel by Jeremiah Daily, James Calvert and William Gilmore for ten days, during which time about 12 men and women professed a hope in Jesus Christ in the pardon of their sins, and joined the church and were baptized in Town Creek, near where our meeting house was then. This scribe being one of the numbers, on the fourth Sabbath in May 1848, having found peace, pardon, and joy in the Holy Spirit at home, near his father’s house. (At the head of the lane, 200 yards of the present Huffman dwelling.) The feelings experienced that evening will be a bright spot in my memory as long as intellect holds government. And although I have to bewail my short -comings and wrong doings, I have enjoyed the witnessing of the Holy Spirit along the road of life for the past forty-six years. And, as the Apostle Paul questions, “If when we were enemies, we were reconciled, we shall be saved by His life”. More after a while.

We turn again to our father’s house. Prosperity and adversity hangs over the family. On the 29th of April, 1836, there was a baby sister born of our dear mother, and they named her Martha Jane. On the 6th day of October our brother John was married to his beloved Betsy Bradford, Eldest daughter of John and Catie Bradford, of the Hanceville Neighborhood. The Bradford Family, pioneer settlers at Oakville, Lawrence County, Alabama, formerly of Spartanburg District, South Carolina. John, Darnel, and Mrs Smith, Harvel (?), Mrs. Gray and others were sons and daughters of Nathaniel Bradford, and were regarded as of the best society in his District.

Aunt Catie, wife of John Bradford, was a daughter of a Mr. McSwain, who, with his wife, owned a large land and slave property up to his death at his old South Carolina home and shortly afterwards the accomplished widow was married to Darnel Bradford, the handsome slave overseer and farmer. Of this union Nancy, afterwards Nancy B. Watson, wife of Nathan, was born. In less than one month after the marriage of our brother John, our brother, Stephen, was called from our family circle by death. Our dear brother had suffered long and severe with indigestion and accompanying ailments. He was a good religious youth, never partaking with any of the dissipations of frivolities of his rough neighborhood. Although he never joined any church, yet he was outspoken in favor of religion and good morals and often rejoiced with the Christian people at church and at the neighbors in religious meetings. The body of our brother Stephen was the first buried at the Huffman grave yard. The next one of our family to be taken from us by death was our dear little sister, Martha Jane, who died of malignant fever and throat ailment in October 1838. Thus the eldest and youngest of our dear ones were taken from us in about a year. The death of these loved ones was a heavy stroke upon the family, especially upon our dear mother. The endearing attachment to the first born, the long time afflicted one, and the sudden death of the dear little daughter, the child of her old age, so to speak, made their deaths a double bereavement. She was not like our mother anymore, though she survived their deaths ten and eight years.

The next scene that our family was called on to witness was the marriage of our eldest sister, Susan, who married to a Mr. David Lockhart Smith, a son of James Smith of Limestone County, North Alabama, at our home on Thackers Creek on the 23rd day of July 1840. They settled at the Big Spring, a mile north of our home. They had four sons and six daughters born to them. Namely: Thomas, Malinda(Corley), John, Permilia, Nancy, Alex, William, Bettie, Martha, and Susan. All lived to man and womanhood except little Alex, who died in infancy in February 1851. The brother Smith moved with his family to west Tennessee, where the dear brother died about fifteen years ago with dropsy.

Nancy died in Decatur, Alabama about three years ago land left the baby boy with the eldest sister, Malinda (Corley) who lives near Wilhite’s Station L & N Cullman, County, Alabama, and they are well to do family.

The brother, Corley, provides for his family, both in an independent living and school opportunities as well. Bettie also died last September in Jefferson County, about eight miles west of Warrior Station (L & N RR) but left no children. The dear aged sister still survives and keeps her house with her daughter, Susan.

Our dear sister, Susan, was seventy-four years old on the 16th of March last, and has good common health for that age.

The next scene to be noticed was the marriage of our dear brother, Alfred, at the home of Mr. John Bradford on the Blount Springs and Somerville Road about 400 yards south of the present residence of A J Stephens, on the 1st day of August 1844. The popular and worthy bride was Miss Malinda Bradford, youngest daughter of John and Catie McSwain Bradford.

The parentage and former residence has been noticed in a sketch of our brother John. Our brother Alfred was a farmer boy, from his little boyhood. And, having arrived at his majority, he cultivated a crop for himself at the Cooper place, where he made a comfortable home. Clearing a good, wide farm and while living there acquired a title to about 200 acres of land in addition to what our father gave him. While living at that home, I believe there were five children born to them namely, Martha Catharine Burns, on the _______day of March 1846, and died of membranous croup, or Diptheria, on the ____day of ____18__. We mourned the death of the dear lovely baby. It was intelligent beyond its age. Next was William Lemons (Burns), born in July 1848 and who was married to Miss Lu Jones on the ____day of _____18__, who was a daughter of William and Cinthia Jones, a worthy family and long time residents of Mariots Creek, 7 miles west of Bangor, Blount County, Alabama. William and Lu Lu have an intelligent and well trained family of three daughters and one son. They reside near my brother, Alfred, for the past 6 months in Navarro County, Texas.

Next was Mary Jane Burns, born on the ___ day of 1851, and was married to W H T Jones (Houston), who was the youngest son of William and Cinthia Jones, alluded to, on the ___ day ___, 18__. They have an intelligent and well-trained family of three sons and three daughters living, the firstborn son having died in infancy on the ___ day of July 1872. They also reside near my brother, Alfred, in Navarro County, Texas. Next was Matilda Ann Burns, born on the 8th day of February, 1853; and died June 20 1936: was married to Hugh Alexander Jones, a son of Jesse Jones and Narcissia Hill of Kentucky, who were brother and sister to William and Cinthia Jones. Alex and Matilda B. Jones are and ever have been from their infancy, worthy of their good names in their neighborhood. They live on Mariots Creek, in a few rods of where Alex was born. They have one son and two daughters grown, and two other daughters, capable of picking from 50 to 100 pounds of cotton and at night join in large ones and parents in singing the songs that make glad the heart of the way worn traveler, as hearts of the lovely family themselves.

Next is Ruben Alex Burns, who was born on the 30th of June 1855. He was always his mother’s favorite boy, and he fully appreciated such endearing attachment. Always showing a fondness for his books and a regular attendance at Church. Professed religion in his early youth, and was baptized into the fellowship of Union (Baptist) Church, and was active, working Christian boy until the “Enemy of Souls” caught him off guard and knocked about three of his best years out of him, as that same power did for this scribe, leaving a thousand regrets and remorse to carry along life’s journey. That fiddling, dancing and still house going was before this scribe joined the church or made any pretentions to religion. But the attraction to religious obligations and duties, with little Reuben, was greater than the seducing spirits, and he came back to the church with abundant evidence of his deep repentance for past sins and of his resolutions for amendment. Since which time little Rueben has ever been faithful as a member of the church and active and efficient as a deacon of the body. He married Miss Ella ___ Hearn, the youngest daughter of Ferdinand and Odicie Hearn, formerly of Guinnett County, Georgia. Rueben and Ella have both been to the church and Sabbath School, as well as to the literary school, and are very intent on giving their children advantages of the increased opportunities of the present times. They had three sons and three daughters born to them, one of which is verging to manhood. Active and efficient boys in farm work, both in cultivating and gathering cotton, and other products. The family has for near a score of years filled a liberal space in the church and community in which they were located. We miss all these families mentioned in our church meetings.

Next was little Alpha Ann, born on the ___day of ___, 185__. Was always quite a dwarf in size, though stout and generally healthy, she devoted quite a number of years as a roommate, companion and fellow laborer with her dear, aged grandmother Bradford, until the death of the worthy old lady severed that companionship. She married to J. Luther Ashley, a worthy young widower, with the parental care of one babe, about two years old. The young brother is a son of Andrew J and Martha Ashley, on the ___day of ___18__ near Blount Springs. Luther was the second babe born to them, and the dear mother did not long survive the birth of little Luther. The wife of the Bro Ashley and mother of Luther was a daughter (youngest) of Jonas and Sallie Bryard, and sister of Mrs. Robert McMurry, Mr. John W. Bryars, Mrs W. Blount Pannel, Mrs. Daniel Porter, our worthy known brothers, Joe B. F. Bryars, of the Mulberry River and Sulphur Spring neighborhood and Esquire William G. Bryars, the 25 year resident and successful merchant of Blount Springs. Also a sister, and much like a twin sister—Nancy Ann, wife of Mr. Macabee Glascock. This family of uncles and aunts still survive, except the two eldest, Mrs. McMurry and Mrs. Porter, and little “Patsey”, the mother of Luther. The father and mother Bryars were of the early pioneers to the Alabama Territory, from East Tennessee, and settled in a rich cove of land two miles of Blount Springs, where they lived in comfort and respectability until the sons and daughters had companions and homes of their own. The dear wife and mother was called away from “wars and rumors of wars” as well as her long time Rheumatic affliction, to a bright abode, where there is an exemption from all such ills and ailments. The dear husband and father survived the dear departed one for, perhaps, a score of years. Esquire William and other relatives occupying “ole home”, and the dear disconsolate father still had his home at old home, until the sorrows of earth, to the Bright Mansions, where many of his loved ones had preceded him.

Little Luther and Alpha Ann, though small of stature, weighing about 100 pounds each, yet they are a success in the farm, garden and vineyard, having a home living with few exceptions. They have Three sons and one daughter born to them, three of whom do good work on the farm and garden, and have made good progress at school.

Luther’s baby girl with his girl wife, Ida Grantham, died in a few months after his marriage with little Alpha Ann. They live near the Mulberry River, one mile west of Bangor.

Next to Dosia Ann, Alfred and Malinda’s baby daughter was born on the 16th day of September 1861, and grew to womanhood, while in her “teens” professed religion and was baptized with her sister, Alpha and others, into the fellowship of the Baptist Church by Elder William McHan in the Mulberry River in the summer of 18__. Dosia Ann Burns married Alfred Gamble, eldest son of James and Massie Ann Gamble. There was a daughter, Fannie born to James and Massie Ann and the dear mother died soon after. As a sensible man, James shortly realized that he could not do justice to his two promising children, and looking around among his near neighbors and school mates, and all in good time he married a worthy woman, Miss Mary Elizie Jones, a daughter of William and Cintha Jones, the same worthy family several times alluded to in these sketches, who gave a mother’s care and treatment, and was an instructor to little Alfred and Fannie. Raising them in credit, and with capability for the business of making an honest and independent living. Mr. James Gamble and his worthy wife have a prosperous and intelligent family of three daughters and one son; and they have all paid diligent heed to the lessons of instructions imparted by the school teacher. Massie Ann, the mother of Alfred and Fannie, was the youngest daughter of Reddick and Catie Manning, formerly of your District, South Carolina. The Manning family were related to the numerous Sandlin family and others of South Carolina and of Alabama, and the Manning family in South Carolina are many of them, of the first respectability.

Alfred and Dosia are living in Navarro County, Texas, near my brother, Alfred Burns and their children. They have only one child born to them, a son, some five or six years old. They have been in Texas two years and are in a prosperous condition. I go back now to notice a few things in the life and sufferings of my dear brother, Alfred, and his beloved wife, Malinda. And one of the greatest sufferings of that dear wife and mother was when she saw Alfred ride away from her and the beloved children, and go into the Terrible War of 1863. The service of his Regiment was very active in scouting the country of West Alabama and Northeast Mississippi until the Spring of 1865, when the great Wilson Raid began about Corenth, Mississippi, moving in a southeast direction through Alabama, destroying the immense stores of corn, cotton and all kinds of stock. At which time my brother’s Regiment and Brigade, under General Stuart, was called upon to join the distinguished General Forest to check the raid and harass the destroyer of our substance in the heart of Alabama. But General Wilson was never checked. He went where he started, to our city of Selma on our Alabama River, where they burnt down our great machine shops, as well as the major part of the city. While General Forest played great havoc with the destroyers, yet they moved on as if no annoyance was on hand by the confederates. During these activities about Selma, my brother was taken prisoner, losing his good mare, overcoat and blanket, and doomed to terrible forced march on foot with others to the City of Montgomery, a distance of about forty miles. When at Montgomery, the large, number of prisoners were put in an enclosure of high picket fencing and strongly guarded from without. Then the brother Alfred could think of home, wife and children, but he could not go to them nor give them word of his condition. But a worse torture of mind awaited my brother and his fellow prisoners, in disclosing to them a charge that General Forest had allowed his soldiers to shoot some Federal soldiers after they had surrendered. The officers of the Union Army informed the confederate prisoners that if it should bully appear, on an investigation, that Union soldiers had been killed after they had surrendered, that the Confederate prisoners would be shot, according to number, in retaliation.

Then the terrible anxiety began. The inquiry, “Who of us will it be, if a number is to be drawn out and shot. If it is me, how can I bear to be hurried into the presence of the Great Judge of the quick and the dead?” The prisoners were subjected to this terrible suspense of mind for about fifteen hours. The question as to whether “we will be sent to Northern Prisons, or disposed of otherwise”. Is lost sight of in this greater question of violent death, or to escape such as ordeal. But Great God of Creation was merciful to the dear disconsolate footsore sufferers. In the early morning, a Union Officer was seen approaching the gate of the enclosure and when in loud speaking distance, he exclaimed at the top of his voice, “All right boys , all right”, then a shout of joy went up from hundreds of joyful prisoners. When as investigation was had in regards to the shooting of prisoners there was no proof that such had been the case. What a relief; what a sudden transition from the approaching calamity of a violent death in a few days to a freedom from such heart tending sadness. And in addition to such information, the union officer called the prisoners together and addressed them with words kindly spoken, saying to them that under the orders of General Wilson, the prisoners would not be sent to a Northern prison, not any other prison, but would be paroled to go to their homes and friends, with full assurance that they would not be called for anymore. That terrible war was over. Advising the boys to get up stock and forage and make a crop with the best means on hand.

Let that scene in the prison stockade in Montgomery never be forgotten by the children, grandchildren and friends of my dear brother Alfred. Sure enough, our brother and a few neighbor fellow prisoners, arrived home in good time – some with makeshift of a plow-horse, bought with Confederate bills with “bit guns” on them. Sure enough, the neighbors and friends, and all the living soldier boys and the families joined together and were blessed with good seasons and made good average crops.

And we all know the balance of it for the past 29 years. The political strife is still on hand but ub a dufferebt sgaoe ib tgus tge 6th dat if /aygyst 1894. (Election)

We now turn back to beginning 1870, when the great affliction of the dear Malinda had about finished its terrible work, after the best doctors of the County had done all that love and humanity would prompt in endeavoring to relieve the dear suffering wife and mother of her aches, pains and derangements. But like it has been with the generations past, and will be with the generations present, she suffered long and severe with Rheumatism, together with a complication of other ailments, but bore her sufferings patiently. All the time intent on doing something for the little ones, her loved ones. Her beloved father having predeceased her short time, having died in her house and leaving her dear Mother, Aunt Catie, as the only living member of her family. The dear sister, Malinda, died in her home at the “Bradford Stephens” place, on the ___ day of July, 1871. Sister Malinda was, for near a score of years, a devoted member of the Baptist Church with her husband, and rejoiced with us in our refreshing seasons, at our meetings and at our homes. And truly her house was a preacher’s home, as well as hospitable and kind to the needy of her neighborhood. She died in full assurance of a happy exchange of worlds and conditions. “Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord.” Next we go back and notice the death of our dear brothers, John and Samuel.

Our brother John was a man of strong energy and fixed purposes. Was popular in his community. So that as a dealer in other men’s stock and produce, he was chosen and sent to the markets of the country, and everyone was satisfied with the sales made and the supplies brought back. He and his hired men cleared a good three-horse farm, and husbanded a good farm business, besides his several wagon engagements each winter and spring to the City of Tuscaloosa, one hundred miles distant. His Betsey was truly a helpmate in all their undertakings. He bought two hundred acres of valuable land in addition to what our father gave him—a liberal portion of it on creek bottom, and was all paid for besides a comfortable living for his family and liberal hospitalities to his neighbors and the wayfaring man, preacher or no-preacher. His fellowship in the church was much disturbed by his absence from church and other obstacles. He was never charged before his church for any short comings, or immoralities but he several times asked the church to allow him to make his apologies and confessions for his many wrongs in conduct and conversation, always showing deep penitence for his wrongs and an ardent wish to live according to the requirements of the duties incumbent on a Christian and member of the church. He was ever ready to give to the church or to his Christian friend a reason of his hopes for blessed immortality in the Great Paradise above.

Our brother John was stricken down with an inflammatory fever about the last of May 1849, which ailment soon determined to the brain and two or three days brought the suffering man to an unconscious state and was lost to us. Yet he had to suffer, some 30 to 40 hours, in a state of mental aberrations. He died with his flesh and much of his physical strength remained near to the end of his suffering. He died in the forenoon of the 4th day of June, 1849. Our brother proclaimed peace and good will, to all the world and expressed his confidence that all would be well with him in the Great future. He left his dear Betsey and four living children to do battle with life’s duties and trials. The eldest daughter, Martha, is a widow for the past 15 years, has raised three daughters and four sons, and they all know well the advantages of farm work, as does the mother. The next daughter, Malinda, lives with her husband, Edward Lindsey, and they have 5 daughters and 2 sons born to them, and all living, and the youngest nearly grown; and all the family are stout healthy. And they enjoy a comfortable home on a portion of the farm formerly owned by our brother.

I will now notice a few things “supplemental” in regard to our brother Alfred. In about a year after the death of his dear Malinda, he decided that he could not do justice to his children in their government and moral and intellectual training. And in a council with his mother-in-law, Aunt Catie Bradford, they both decided that Alfred should have additional assistance in the person of a good wife. He did like his neighbor, Jim Gamble, went on a tour of inspection among his near neighbors, and soon found a worthy young widow, Mrs. Dovey Morris (whose husband died in the Army of East Tennessee) with one little daughter about eight years old. This worthy widow was a daughter of William and Cintha Jones, who have been alluded to in former sketches. They were married at the home of her widowed sister (Mrs Matilda Bradford) by the Elder _________on the __day of _____, 1871. They have lived happily together during the past 23 years, and have had two children born to them – a daughtrer on the ---day of ---, 1872 and a son, Charles Lewis, on the ___day of ___, 1874. These children appear to be fully grown, quite handsome and intelligent, and have been to good schools and made good use of the time. They are still with their parents in his Texas home. Little Arabella, Dovey Morris’s daughter grew up with the others of Malinda’s children, a bright and happy child; made good use of her school opportunities. And when about her fourteenth year professed religion, as also did the stepsisters Alpha and Dosia, and was baptized into the fellowship of the Baptist Church at Union; and was married to J Claiborne Burns, the 2nd son of Elder C A Burns on the 25th day of December, 1876. The parents of these children were much related by marriage but they were in no way related by “blood”. My Claiborne and his Arabella have lived several years in our Thacker neighborhood. Several years in Pratt City, near Birmingham, with his brothers Pickens and Wiley. After which he and his brother Wily went to southwest Corner of Winston County, about 70 miles northwest of Birmingham, where they entered a quarter section each, remaining on the lands until they obtained Government titles to the land, and sold out; and Claiborne and family “hied away” to the Burns Colony” in Texas where the dear little Arabella lcould be with her mother (Dovey).

They have had four sons and one daughter born to them and all living, namely: John Wily, about 15 years old, Maud Grason 13, Willie 10, Fred 7, and Claud 3. They have always been a bright and happy family, according to their condition in life. The mother has ever been the governess, the school teacher, as well as the Sabbath School Instructor, in common with the husband and father. The eldest two have made good progress at school, according to their opportunities.

****************** Next, I will give a sketch of my brother Jonathan and his family. He was born at the Reeds Gap home on the 2nd of July 1831, grew up to manhood before he was out of his “teens”, and was married to Cinthia Fowler, eldest daughter of David and Betsey Fowler, and the Granddaughter of Elder John and Lucy Fowler, of much good fame in our County, and in our state, as a progressive, energetic farmer and orchardist. A man possessed of good property for his day in our State, from 1818 to his death in 1849. He was a man of eminent piety, a zealous Minister of the Gospel, and quite a philosopher in his intellectual make-up.

Locke Beeson, one of our foremost merchants, inour county town, once said to a crowd in his presence, that “Old John Fowler has been worth more to Alabama, than any governor who has ever presided over the state.

Date: Friday, 10 April 2009 23:27:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Carolyn Pigg
Dear Norma,
There is a John H Burns in this document, but he is only 1 year old, but he probably was named after one of the Burns.

This family is connect to Charles son, I think, John Arthur Burns. Regarding John H Burns: was JOHN H BURNS the son of JOSEPH BURNS b. 1772 who married KATE KEIFFER? If so, his father would either be JOHN BURNS b. 1747 or JOHN BURNS b. 1755 who m. MARY SHIPE OR MARY ?

Here is some information someone sent me sometime back. Following is research I've done on my Burns line which was located in the York/Spartanburn/Cherokee County, SC area. If anyone has ideas or thoughts I would appreciate hearing from you.

As stated previously, Susan Morgan’s mother was Honor Burns. Honor’s grandmother and mother can be determined from the 1860 census for Spartanburg County:
Honor Burns 78 VA
Sarah Burns 35 SC (later as “Sallie”)
Honor M. Burns 14 SC
Frances Burns 8 SC
James A. Burns 5 SC
John H. Burns 1

The family is also listed on the 1850 census for Spartanburg County, page 503:
Oner Burns 60 SC Listed in the index as “Owen”
Sarah 24 SC
Hannah 20 SC
Onery (Honor) 5 SC
Daniel 1/6 SC

To determine the husband of Honor Burns, I analyzed the 1840 census records for Spartanburg and York Counties. I matched the ages of the people on the 1840 census with the known ages of Honor’s family from the 1850 census. I found about 18-20 families and examined each. I eliminated all those who were too young to be Honor and her husband.

Since Honor's husband was not alive in 1850, I eliminated the men who were still alive in 1850. This included a William and Hannah Burns the correct ages to have been Honor and her husband.

I was left with only one family that matched, and it matched perfectly. They are in Spartanburg County. There are two page numbers on the page, 503, and either 327 or 527:

William Burns, born between 1781-90 Wife, born between 1781-90, a perfect match for Honor who was born about 1782
Son, born 1821-25, a perfect match to be the son who married Sarah _______ (born 1825)
Two females 10-14 and 2 females 20-29 who obviously would have also been grown by the time of the 1850 census.

Who then, were the parents of William Burns? Based on the age and location, William is very likely the son of Samuel Burns. Consider the following information:
Burns, Samuel
State: SC
Series M805, Roll 145, Image 201, File W9757

South Carolina, York District
Before me personally appeared Amos Burns and made oath in due form of hand that he has the record of his father Samuel Burns’ marriage to his mother Mary Lesley showing their marriage together along with the births of their children which is written on the inside of the cover of Samuel Burns’ Bible and cannot be taken out and that it is in his father Samuel Burns own hand writing and believed to be correct and has always been in his said fathers family a copy of which is hereunto attached in support of said marriage. Sworn to & subscribed before me July 11th 1853 John G. Enloe Magt. Ex. Off.
signed Amos Burns

Samuel Burns and Mary Lesley were married July 25th 1781. Samuel Burns is thirty years of age on Sept 17th 1784.
Zabdiel or Habdiel (?) Burns was born June 28th 1782 about ten o’clock at night!
William Watson Burns was born November 2nd 1783 about one o’clock at night.
Margaret Burns was born November 22, 1785 between break of day and sunrise.
Anne (?) Burns was born 26th March 1788 near an hour before sunset.
George Burns was born April 1790 about two hours after dark.
Martha Burns was born Jany. 19th 1792 near 12 o’clock at night
Saml. Burns was born January 15th 1794 almost day.
John Burns and Mary Burns born March 29th 1796.
Grace Burns borne October 1798.
Joab Addi Burns & Cyrus Iddo Burns born Sept 29th 1800 two or three hours after.
Amos Burns was born October 27th 1802.
Jediah Burns was born July 23rd 1805 2 hours before sun down.
Saml. Burns Senior was born September 17th 1754.

South Carolina, York District
I, John M. Ross, Judge of the Court of the Ordinary for the District Court aforesaid certify that Samuel Burns, who was a revolutionary pensioner of the United States, departed ! this life in York District, So. Ca. on the first day of September One thousand eight hundred thirty seven leaving his wife Mary, a widow who died in York Dist. So. Ca. on the second day of Feby. one thousand eight hundred & forty eight, having surviving the following Children, viz: Samuel Burns, Margaret Davison or Dawson (?), George Burns, John Burns, Mary Burns, Cyrus Burns, Anne or Anna or Annis (?)Burns, who was now his only surviving children & all of Lawful and in testimony whereof I have hereunto offered the seal of my office & subscribed my name, done in open court.
John M. Ross

This information was part of the Revolutionary War pension application of Samuel and Mary Burns As can be seen, William Watson Burns is the right age to have been Honor’s husband. Additionally, this action shows that William was dead by 1848. Census records analyzed showed that Honor’s husband, William Burns was alive in 1840 but dead by 1850, again, a fit for William Watson Burns. Assuming that Honor’s husband is William Watson Burns, here is the remainder of the family lineage:

Robert Burns b. abt. 1590:
John Burns b. 1627 m. Hellen Lyon. They had:
John Burns b. 1659 m. Margaret Cuming. They had:
George BURNS b: 1680 in Scotland died 1755 m. Jordan Probst b. 1659.
They had: (Norma this is where he has Jordan married to George, but this is incorrect; and I will continue to believe that Rev. Dr. John Burns was married to Jordan Probst; unless someone can show me different.)

Hellen Lyon, isn't that one of the wives of Robert "The Poet"????

Charles Burns
Birth: 1717 in Scotland
Death: 1789 in Henry Cnty, VA
Will: after 3 Apr 1789 Henry County, Va
Death at Marrow Bone Creek, Henry County. Burial at Martinsville
Marriage 1 to Mary Webb, b 1729, Goochland, VA,
divorced 1779
Marriage 2 in 1779 to Ann Rea, b abt 1761 VA, daughter of James Rea

Their children are:
Alexander (Sr) BURNS b: abt 1746 in Pittsylvania Cnty, VA
William BURNS b: abt 1756 in Pittsylvania, VA
Andrew BURNS b: abt 1758 in ? VA
Samuel BURNS b: 17 Sep 1754 in Halifax Cnty, Va
John BURNS b: in Virginia
Charles BURNS b: abt 1764 in Halifax Cnty, VA
Andrew S BURNS b: abt 1766 in Halifax Cnty, Va
Ann BURNS b: abt 1759 in Henry Cnty, Va

April 12, 1768, Surveyed for Charles Burns, 68 acres of land on the branches of Marrowbone Creek, and bounded as follows. Viz: Beginning at a Chestnut tree on Randolphs Order Line, thence 92 poles to a white oak on a branch thence new lines 186 poles crossing the branch to a red oak, thence 94 poles to a hickory and white oak in the Order line, thence 24 poles crossing a branch to the first station. By: T.H.A., Surveyor.. Transferred to W. Archibald Roberson,
Pittsylvania County, Virginia.

January 4, 1774: Pittsylvania County, Virginia Deed Book 4, page 25, from Charles Burns of the Parish of Camden in Pittsylvania to Theophilus Feild and William Call, Merchants in Prince George Co., for 45 pounds, all that parcel of land in Camden Parish and Pittsylvania, containing about 254 acres on the south side of Irvin River, and bounded by (trees).

Signed (his mark) Charles Burns Witnesses: Wm. Wilson, John Wilson, Peterson Thweatt, Burrel Smith.
Recorded May 26, 1774.

The wife of Charles, came into court and voluntarily relinquished her right of dower to the lands conveyed.

Will: IN THE NAME OF GOD AMEN. I Charles Burns, Sen. of Henry County, State of Virginia, being sick and weak in body, but of perfect mind and memory thanks be to Almighty God, calling unto mind the mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and ordain this my last will and testament, that is to say Principally and first of all, I give and recommend my soul into the hands of Almighty God that gave it me and my body I recommend to the Earth to be buried in the Christlike Burial at the direction of my Executors and as touching my Worldly Estate wherewith it has pleased God to blys me with in this life, I give and dispose of in the following manner and form, I give and bequeath unto my Dearly beloved wife Ann Burns my land whereon I now live, my stock all kinds, my house hold furniture, my working tools as long as she may live, then to be disposed of in the following manner to wit, at the desire of my dearly beloved wife Ann Burns what remains to be sold and divided amongst my children as followeth. I give to my son Alexander Burns one Shilling Sterling. I give unto my son Samuel Burns one Shilling Sterling, I give unto my son John Burns one Shilling Sterling, I give to my son Charles Burns Jr. one Shilling Sterling, then the balance that whom I make my whole and sole Executor of this my Last Will and Testament. ! In Witnys Whereof I have hereunto set my hand this Third day of April in the year of our Lord God 1789.
Signed Sealed and Delivered his In the Presents of us Charles B. Burns L.S.
Jonathan Pace Robert Lorton John Ray

Who were the parents of Honor M. Burns, wife of Peter Morgan?

The answer is found in the estate settlement of James Madison Gaffney who died 12 Aug 1844 (Spartanburg County File 1120, 1851). James was the son of Michael Gaffney, the founder of Gaffney, SC.

James married Minerva Jones. The couple had two sons, Joseph and Thomas.

From the estate settlement, which began in 1844 and concluded in 1852, it is clear that after James’ death Minerva married C.N. (Christopher) Burns. In late 1845 or early 1846 she gave birth to Honor M. Burns. An analysis of the dates of census records, the reported age of Honor on census records, and the date of death of James Gaffney, shows it highly unlikely that Minerva was pregnant with Honor when James died.

Joseph and Thomas were also mentioned in the will of their grandfather, Michael Gaffney, but Honor isn’t mentioned offering further proof that she wasn’t the daughter of James Gaffney but WAS the daughter of C.N. and Minerva Jones Gaffney Burns.

C.N. Burns was appointed guardian ad litem for Honor. It was common practice at that time for all monies to pass from male hand to male hand. So, any money inherited would have to be handed to the father or even the husband of the female inheriting the money. If there was no male, a guardian ad litem would be appointed. In most cases, the father was appointed guardian ad litem if the inheritance was through the mother to a female child. The guardian ad litem would then be paid a fee for handling the transaction.

From the estate of their mother, each of the three children received $24.94 and the two boys each received $266.90 from their father’s estate. C.N. received $37.41 as Honor’s guardian ad litem.

Thus, Honor Burns Morgan, mother of Susan F. Morgan, was half-sister to Thomas and Joseph Gaffney.

After James Gaffney’s death, Joseph and Thomas went to live with their uncle Henry G. Gaffney. Henry was administrator of James’ estate.

The C.N. Burns family should appear on the 1850 and 1860 census but doesn’t. In fact, Honor is living with her grandmother Honor Burns during this time. It isn’t known why she wasn’t living with her parents. C.N. received money from the James Gaffney estate as late as 1852 so he certainly should have been on the 1850 census. Perhaps Minerva had died and C.N. couldn’t care for Honor by himself.

The suggested lineage is:
• George Burns and Mary _______
• Charles Burns (from Scotland in 1737) and Mary Webb
• Samuel Burns and Mary Lessley
• William Burns and Honor ____________
• C.M. Burns and Minerva Jones Gaffney
• Honor M. Burns and Peter Morgan
• Susan Frances Morgan and Charles Mills Painter

Date: Friday, 10 April 2009 23:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Carolyn Pigg
Hi Norma,

Have a Blessed Easter!

Per the Chandler Family Association, Charles Burns, Sr. married Mary Ann Morris-Webb, not George. Mary's first marriage was to ? Morris, per the Chandler Association.

As far as George being in America. Who has documented evidence that George came here? I know that some say he came to America, but, I have searched census records, marriage records, Ships, etc. Per World Connect, Scotland, George and his wife Mary (LNU), were born and died in Lanarkshire County, Glasgow, Scotland, as well as his grandparents, who are listed below.

Charles' grandparents were Rev. Dr. John Burns and Mary Probst. Before I had to give up my, I was researching the possibility that Charles had a brother James Burns. So I hope at some point to join Ancestry again, in hope that I'll find him again.

One young man has Charles' father, George married to Mary Probst, which in incorrect.

Per several people, they say that William Burns, Sr. married Nancy Chandler, Sarah Bishop and a Lucy Angell, and another woman too. I have asked for documentation from others for proof of all the wives he married, but not even one person has responded. I do believe William married Sarah and Nancy, but I need proof of any other marriages.

When I sent earlier information regarding Andrew Burns born 1790, I had been told by a distant cousin, that he was born in Henry Co., Ky. When I looked at my grandfather's journal, he had Andrew born in North Carolina. I tend to believe he was born in NC.

I hope at some point, we will be able to verify the marriages of William.

Regardless of which child belonged to which wife, I consider them all my family.

There was a falling out between William's children over land. William received a lot of land from the Revolutionary War.

Robert Franklin Burns, William's great-grandson, passed some information onto my great-grandfather, Irvin Robert Burns, who passed the information on to my grandfather, Robert Daniel Burns, Sr., that we are related to James Family; Frank and Jesse James. Their father was born in Kentucky. Frank and Jesse and their families moved to Tennessee under alias names, including their wives and children. Frank and Jesse decided to make a trip to Clay County, to visit relatives. As far as Papaw could remember, they only stayed one night with Robert Franklin Burns, then they moved on to see other family members.

After Jesse was murdered, Frank joined some kind of Western Style Show; one of the stops was in Floyd County, Kentucky. I have a copy of a photo of that show in Floyd County. After they finished up in Floyd County, Robert Franklin decided to stop by Robert Franklin's farm. However, he must have stayed somewhere in between, because it is a long way from Floyd County to Clay County. He did go to Robert's for one night; the next morning when Frank was getting ready to leave, he gave one of his pistols to Robert Franklin.

The James family, I am assuming, did not have an ancestor who fought in the Revolutionary War. They applied for acceptance for DAR and SAR, using the following three men: Samuel Howard, Rev. Jesse Boling, and William Cornett, all of which I am descended from; in order for them to have joined, they would have had to show proof of their relationship to those three men.

Also, Andrew Burns, Sr. born 1790, son of William, had two children, one son and one daughter, with another woman (not married), prior to marrying Nancy Baker. I can't off the top of my head remember their names, but they used their mother's maiden name. It may have been Bishop. When I run across it again, I'll send you their names. That came as a shock to me, because I had never heard that before and my Papaw, I sure didn't know.

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