Suggested Application for the Micro Tubes & Mini Lick 'n' Stick
Can be used with most lead setups, the most successful being inline lead. It really depends on the water that you are fishing.
Always use dry rigs.
To prevent premature melt down of bag, make three or four spare rigs with bags attached ready for recasting.
To use these Mini pva bags to their full potential, prefill prior to fishing with ingredients, eg: Pellets, Fishmeals, Betain, Crushed dried hemp, Crushed dried boillies, Spices, Liver powder etc,etc. Keep experimenting with different ingredients, eventually you'll find the one that works for you. Fill to desired level, lick flap, fold and stick. Keep prefilled bags in an airtight container or poly bag. To prevent bags from sweating & sticking together, lightly dust with milk powder or dry boilie mix etc. Your bags are now ready to go fishing.
The best way to use these bags is as follows.
Push stringer needle through centre of filled & sealed bag.
Link eye of needle to rig swivel & pull up through bag.
Attach rig swivel to mainline using strong link swivel or split ring or "gizmo link"
TIP: To save money on expensive bag funnels, why not use a plastic fizzy drinks bottle.
Simply cut a small plastic bottle in half & use the neck end as funnel. SORTED.
Your Help Please Although we manufacture these bags it does not make us an authority on how to use them SO we want to hear from YOU.
If you have any hints or tips on how to use PVA bags, String, Nuggets or Mesh please email us with any details, with photo's (if poss). Please include your full name as this will appear next to your item on this page. Any items we do use the contributer will also receive a FREE gift. Please EMAIL us now if you have any ideas. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Handy little tip! from us. The ideal Micro Tube funnel for 25p Get yourself or somebody else to pop into your local supermarket the one that starts with T and ends with O and has esc in the middle. Look at the cake making section you'll find these plastic bottles of food colouring
approx cost 25p Once you've made your purchase and got it home empty the contents into another container makes good bait colourant. now cut the bottom of plastic bottle off, remove sticker Hey Presto!! one funnel that fits our micro tubes a treat for approx 25p
Snags Bags Supplied by Mo's-Co view their video footage Fill a Mini Chris is abit camera shy but i think he does well. Nick Dunkley Has sent in the following suggestions.
Since fishing Beedles I came across a slight problem, I needed to present a small bed of bait at range, using the rods I have (2 ¾). I came across Mo’s ‘small’ pva bags which fitted the job perfectly. The way I construct my bags for range fishing is as follows;
1/ Open the bag up and hold open using two fingers, place lead in the bottom right hand corner
2/ Lay rig out along the bottom so you are holding the bait in the top left hand corner.
3/ Fill the bag ½ full of pellets then top up with either boilie crumb or meaty marine ground bait. I also like to add a little bit of glug or oil to help give lots of initial attraction that will rise to the surface layers of the water helping to entice any carp on its way.
4/ Twist the pva around the tubing/lead core until the bag is tight. Then tie the bag using pva tape and trim.
5 Now using a baiting needle pierce the bag several times to release any air that may cause it to float, ensuring not to pull or damage the hooklink.
6/ Now lick and stick the corners of the bag in tightly, to make the bag more aerodynamic in flight.
The final presentation should weigh around 3-3.5oz when using a 2oz lead, and its round appearance allows it to travel very smoothly in flight, which helps gain those vital extra yards needed when distance fishing. The hooklink will definitely not tangle if the above method is employed. Another tip is to use a baiting needle to straighten the rig out once the bag has been constructed; this will give you entire confidence that you rig is lying perfectly. The bags are ideal for fishing in any depth situations as there break down time varies between 20-45seconds, which guarantees the bait hits the deck before melting completely. Unlike other bags I’ve used, Mo’s bags are very strong and don’t explode on impact, another quality which I value. Nick Dunkley
Sam Warby Has sent in the following suggestions:
1/Always pierce solid bags so that the trapped air is released, this stops the bag from floating.
2/Cut or fold the corners on solid PVA bags to make them more aerodynamic.
3/For surface fishing try using a PVA bag of mixers with a stone in it to get it the extra distance. Some excellent tips there Sam, many thanks.
Here's a little tip from me.
If your fishing a silty or weedy water either place a PVA nugget or two in the bag prior to casting or do not pierce the bag, this will make the bag want to float, once the material has dissolved it will settle gently and your baits will be more exposed.
Tom Wright has just reminded us of a good little tip
If using hard baits in the bags, i.e. Pellets, boilie's etc, place a PVA nugget around the point of the hook this will ensure the point does not get masked thus ensuring a clean take. Nice one TOM.
Jack Beale has just sent this in
I have a little tip using PVA Nuggets, it may be useful for some people.
When fishing i think you have to be 100% sure, that the bait and the hook is
presented in a perfect way, and that you are sure there has been no tangles
with the hair and that the hook has not picked any weed or twigs on the way
down to the bottom.
The way i do it is, i use two pieces of rig foam, to make sure i have the
best possible presintation of the bait and the hook. I fold the first piece
of rig foam in half and then i hook the hook through the foam, making sure
the point of the hook is not showing. I then position the hair with my
chosen bait on, down the back of the hook, and then using the other piece of
rig foam i dampen each side of the foam and put the foam over the top of the
hair trapping the hair so it can not move what so ever. This aviods any
tangles off the hair around the hook on the cast, but even if i am using a
PVA bag i will still do the same thing, so i am 100% sure my presentation is
perfect. Also doing this has another advantage and that is when you have
cast out and the rig foam starts to melt away, it will float to the top,
this allows you a minute or two to spod or catapult some bait out to the
piece of foam. The foam acts as a marker float, but you can only do this
when it is not very windy, beacause the foam will have moved by the time you
have had the chance to get some bait to the spot. Yep i'm sure this little tip will be very usefull. Thanks Jacko.
Fishing a bag at range: By Nick Bull
When you want to fish at range with bags, you want to be looking at the smallest set up possible. A PVA bag the size of a pool ball, or even a golf ball. I use golf ball size for maximum distance. My set up uses one boilie crumbed up, and one as the hook bait. This is then padded out with a ground bait , I use Hinders A-mix, it’s a selection of crushed seeds, mainly Hemp. This is a soft and oily mix , which makes filling and shaping very easy. Any ground bait is fine, and you can also add a few small pellets for extra attraction.
The rig set up I use consists of lead safety clips and pear shaped swivel leads, depending on your rods, lead weights can range from 2oz to 4oz.I only use braid rigs with bags as I know using stiff type rigs can cost you fish as they can feel the link in their mouths a lot easier than braid. For the smallest bags I use rigs of around 1 ½ inches.
To start with ,I put a small amount of ground bait in the bottom of the bag, place the lead in one of the bottom corners, and the hook bait in the other corner, add some more ground bait until the bag is about ¾ full. I then dribble a little saliva on to my thumb and forefinger and twist the top of the bag up, just above the lead around half way up the tail rubber. Tie up the bag using a good strong PVA tape or string. Make a few holes in the bag to release trapped air and then pinch the corners and lick and stick them up the side of the bag and shape the bag into a ball shape. Finally , its always best to use a good quality shock leader for long range bag work..Right , you, should now be ready to launch your PVA bag to a distance you have never felt you would be able to achieve before….
Nick Bull Nice one, thanks for sharing that with us,Cheers Nick
Hi there here,s a tip for fishing in swims with over hanging trees or other vegetation, either behind you or where you are casting to.
Lick a pva nugget and bend it around the hook and your leader/tubing so the hook length is stream line behind the lead this then stops the hook catching on the cast and will get through small gaps.
you need a stiff hook link so it falls away from the main line on contact with the water.
Nice one Kristian, that's a method i employ when fishing a zig in confined swims, but i normally use a short length of pva tape, perhaps i'll try a nugget next time.
Don't know if this is any good for you.1.Take a mini lick and stick bag and drop your hair rigged bait(bottom or pop-up) into one of the corners. 2.Fill the rest of the bag up half way with your chosen bag mix and add the special ingredient. 3.My bag mix consists of various size and flavour pellets 3-6mm and a bit of frenzied ground bait, crushed hemp, and crushed boilie (bottom). The special ingredient a very finely ground/chopped pop up, it is best if you get this at various sizes as it then floats up at different rates, it should also suspend itself in the water at different levels due to the difference in buoyancy of the particles this will draw the fish right down. 4.I then add a drop of oil, usually salmon (summer) or glug/attractor to match the bait (winter). 5.Top the bag up with your bag mix ensuring you work the smaller pellets and ground bait etc into the corners as a full bag cast better. 6.when full ensure the top of your rig is coming out of a corner, fold over the flap, lick and seal. 7.Cast. 8.The combination of crushed hemp and chopped pop ups together with the oil will work its way up through the layers bringing the fish in on the target no matter what depth they are swimming at.
Hope this makes sense
Jim Fisher. Makes sense to me Jim, like the idea of that special ingredient ,
Using Stocking-type PVA mesh bags.
Kevin wrote this imformative article awhile back now but think you will find it interesting.
Please press HERE to view this article.
Here's a nice little tip, very simple but worthy of a mention. Graham, aka the Rigwizard Suggests the following: Hi mo !!
here is my tip for getting uniform size balls using your spider mesh pva !
using a boilie or wide dispenser tube make a "max fill line" with a black marker pen approx 2" from bottom
slide on spider mesh and fill with pellets/boilies to this line ,when mesh is tied tight this will give a ball about the size of golfball every time!!
the higher the line the bigger the ball ,i find it speeds up bag making,cos it takes out the guess work !
the more uniform the size of ball,the more accurate casting will be,i even catapult out loose bags to top up the swim !!
hope this helps, good luck, The Rigwizard. 1/2/3/4/ A Wizard idea indeed.
Has come up with this little tip for delaying the meltdown time of mesh bags, very handy when fishing in deep water's.
a)After making your bags up drizzle some oil onto them (any will do, sensas make some good ones for £3 a bottle, look in the match section of the tackle shop) 1 bottle will do 5 or 6 refills of pva mesh at least.
b) keep them in a bucket with some oily pellets. The mesh will soak up the oil and take longer to break down. A Minute is easily possible in warm water - test them yourself at different stages of soaking etc so you know roughly how long you'll have.
Don't do it in winter though - i've reeled in after 4 hours and still had half a dynamite stick on the hook! Rob.
It sounds like everyone ties the bag/mesh up and nicks the hook through the bag/mesh, so to be different thread a bit of pva tape through the bag and tie it to the lead works a treat on pressured waters.
How it works
Make your mesh stick up, (works with a bag too) and then use a long baiting needle and thread a piece of pva tape or string through the mesh and mix so that it comes out either side of the stick (best to thread it through near the top of the stick for ease of casting) then tie the two ends of the PVA string like laces to the swivel of your lead or swivel of the hooklink. You will then have your hook bait a few inches away from your mix and any fish that is a bit weary of small patches of baits will tend to pick up bits at the edge (your hookbait)
hope that helps.
Deffo worth a try me thinks.
I call this the "Triad" rig, it is similar to other rigs that ive seen that use pva thread or tabe. By using the wide stocking mesh, the baits will explode away from the hookbait, some up the hooklength, others to the side.
When making the Triad be sure to place two baits side by side first by manipulating them in the mesh, with the third bait on top, this makes for tying it up nice and tight a lot easier.
Be sure to nick the barb of your hook in the mesh, that keeps everything in place for big casts or for when the rig hits the water.
Top rig that catches me plenty.
All the best
Here's a cracking article by Dave Rothery
Someone recently commented that they sometimes had problems getting PVA bags to sink, also someone else couldn’t get their mesh bags tight…so here’s how:
Pic 1 and 2 : How many people use bags, bait in first, fill with boilies and tie off? Okay for short range, but it's not particularly aerodynamic, and all the gaps leave plenty of air in it, so lots of holes need making to let the air out. pic 1
Pic 3: Use a mixture of different pellets, from 3mm upwards. Put some pellet in the bag, then the lead. If using an inline lead and braid hooklength, put the hook through the bag opposite the lead, this’ll ensure the bait will be on top after it sinks. Put some boilies, some pellet on top and, most important, shake it up. This will make the 3mm pellets fill the gaps between the baits. More boilies, add more pellet, and shake again. Twist the bag until it starts stretching. Tie off, and cut away any excess PVA – this will make it more aerodynamic. Pic 3
Pics 4 and 5: Pinch the corners of the bag, and shake the pellet from the corner. You’ll be left with a little flap. Moisten it and stick it back onto the bag. Repeat on the other side. Again, this is for aerodynamics, and it also removes excess air. pic 6
Pic 6: Stab many times with a baiting needle, nick the hook into the bag, and hey presto, a bag that’ll fly straight and further than a badly prepared one.
Instead of pellet (or as well as), dry groundbait is excellent for doing this as you can pack the bag really tight, and you will also get a lovely explosive cloud around the bag when it bursts. If you have no small pellets with you, just crumb up a couple of boilies.
Mesh Pic 1: Fill the tube with whatever you are going to put into the mesh. Slowly pull the mesh down, and the bait will come with it, but you’ll be left with a long, loose sausage. Hard to describe the method, but pinch the mesh at the top, put the bait in the palm of your hand and push down, compacting it. You should then be able to pull the mesh tight again, and repeat for as many times as you can. You can see how much the bait has been compacted in picture 2. MESH PIC 1
MESH PIC 2
Tie off the bag and you are ready to cast out. I normally have a couple made up, and when I want to recast, I unclip the hooklength, put a stringer needle through the bag, drag the hooklength back through and clip it back on ready to cast.
Ready to go
The only trick with using stick is to make sure the stick mix is quite dry, and to make sure its well compacted. I do this with one of the plungers you can buy, put the tube containing the mix on my leg and push down HARD. I then turn it upside down so the plunger is on my knee, hold onto the pva mesh quite tightly, and push the tube down. This way the sausage will come out and stay compact with the mesh really stretching tight over it. This way it’ll tend to explode when the PVA melts, rather than the PVA shrinking into the stick stopping it melting – especially in the winter and with oily mixes. Excellent tips Dave