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- Consider this:
- I'll believe in the Bible, you
believe in evolution, okay?
- You'll say the Bible says God
created everything in 7 days.
- I'll say a day to Him is like a
thousand years.
- You'll say Adam and Eve raised a
murderer &
- I'll say they had very few
parenting classes in those days.
- You'll say we evolved from monkeys
- & I'll ask why are there still
monkeys then?
- But "disproving" the
Bible wouldn't "prove" evolution.
- We could debate the Bible or
Darwin
- 'til we die of old age and nothing
would change,
- so that won't help.
-
- Proof of Religion:
- Since neither of us has shaken
hands with God, Jesus,
- or any of the disciples, we can't
put religion on trial --
- maybe our first point of agreement
- is that religion is based on
hearsay,
- fraught with mis-interpretations,
- full of wishful thinking
- and perhaps the most significant
gamble available to man!
-
- I'm not sure how to take some of
the things in the Bible.
- I'm not even sure who wrote them,
- how elaborate their vocabulary was
in those days,
- or whether they were addressing
their neighbors or mankind.
-
- But one thing I'm sure of -- there
are ten commandments,
- in spite of every parent's frantic
scramble to create an eleventh one !
- I think ten is enough for anybody.
- If you go thru a day without
breaking one of these big ones,
- good for you, you've been a pretty
decent person for the day.
- Try it again tomorrow.
-
- Proven Science:
- Science, by contrast, has been
"proven", right?
- Well, REAL science anyway.
- Unfortunately, some schools
neglect to remind students
- how much "science" is
UNPROVEN and how much THEORY prevails!
- Ancient scholars once
"theorized" that the earth was the
center of the universe
- and the world was flat. But
somewhere along the grapevine
- these theorys diluted themselves
into "common knowledge".
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- Common Knowledge:
- So how accurate IS our common
knowledge anyway?
- Is "western medicine"
better than the medicine practiced by most of the
world?
- Which country is the
"greatest nation on earth"? Based on
what?
- Do black holes just absorb
everything, as Albert Einstein theorized?
- Or do they release radiation and
ultimately evaporate,
- as Stephen Hawking suggests?
- Have you ever seen an "expert
witness"
- offering testimony
- over a jar of "primordial
soup"?
- Or studied gravity under a
microscope?
- Me neither!
- How could either of us
"prove" in court
- that the earth ISN'T the center of
the universe?
- It would appear that in the
interest of expedience
- we've been accepting quite a bit
of "hearsay", wouldn't it?
- So I don't think we'd be wise to
put science on trial either.
-
- Can we GENERALLY agree
on these things?
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- 1) Most scientists and clergymen
are well-intentioned, well-trained and dedicated.
- 2) Neither scientists nor
clergymen tend to see eye-to-eye with others in
their field.
- 3) Despite views, both groups need
to make a living in their chosen field.
- 4) Since the
knowledge of 100 years ago is largely outdated,
- 5) Today's knowledge will be
obsolete in the near future.
- 6) You and I are searching for
answers.
- 7) We both think we're right!
-
-
- If Our fellow man
taught us most of what we know,
- so maybe it's time to look at some
of the people who've influenced us..
-
- Anthropologists:
- I believe most people who dig up
bones
- and try to date them are sincere.
- Their dating methods are probably
pretty accurate
- and they'll tell us the earth is a
zillion years old.
- Of course, they also once told me
that dinosaurs
- became extinct all at once,
- that Tyrannosaurus Rex was
strictly a meat-eater
- and that due to a larger brain
cavity,
- man is smarter than his fellow
mammals.
- NOW the SAME group is uncovering
"new evidence"
- that sheds doubt on conclusions
drawn from lifetimes of dedicated digging.
-
- Scientists:
- When one searches for truth
outside himself,
- the truth gets further and further
away, the Chinese would say.
- Science once told us that
television was impossible,
- that there's no such thing as a
"sixth sense",
- and a ton of other mis-information
has been researched,
- documented and dispersed by
scientists.
- I would point out that scientists
are
- specialists just like everyone
else,
- that they sometimes
"enhance" their findings
- and that their conclusions, like
anyones, MAY have
- repercussions far beyond their own
design.
-
- Teachers:
- Many "teachers" have
become well-read,
- well-intentioned, convincing
orators,
- but lacking practical experience
they
- inadvertantly lead
"captive" students completely off
track.
- I've seen government-appointed
"research leaders" who were assigned
- to study grizzlies without ever
having seen an actual bear!
- So remember to ask yourself
- "How many bears has MY
bear-instructor seen"?
- (With his persuasive powers, you
ever wonder what kind of
- evangelist Adolph Hitler might
have become?)
-
- Religious leaders:
- Years ago our Sunday School
teacher warned us that
- "Jesus is coming soon!",
stated that "soon" could be anytime,
- maybe a minute from now, and that
we should ALWAYS be ready!
- Well, I took that lesson to heart
- so I prayed on the way home,
- and prayed the next day,
- and the next week and so forth.
- After maybe 10 years I finally
decided that:
- either that teacher was all wet,
- or Jesus is going to be in BIG
trouble
- with his Mom when he finally DOES
show up !!
- So don't bother telling me the sky
is falling.
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- Parents:
- Most of us were raised by average
parents,
- and parents had the majority of
influence during our "formative years".
- How smart IS the average parent?
- Any smarter than the average
neighbor?
- Selfish parents,
- critical parents,
- gossipy parents,
- skeptical parents,
- stubborn parents,
- melodramatic parents, ---
- they ALL produce offspring
- who rely on those
characteristics.
- No matter how much rebellion
- and independence
- you can muster,
- I've seen decades of people
"evolve"
- into young versions of their OWN
PARENTS!
- Don't EVER say "it won't
happen to me."
- To some extent, it already has!
- I'm not a clone of my father, but
I can't shed his genes !
- Significance?
- A person "disappears"
from view
- at the distance of about a mile.
- Cars, 2 miles. Houses, about 3 to
5 miles.
- So from a worldly standpoint,
- we're relatively insignificant.
- Except maybe to an ant underfoot.
-
- But we ARE part of something too
big
- and complex for us to comprehend.
-
- History:
- We WERE led to believe that
Columbus
- was the first white man to
discover America
- and that Edison personally
invented the light bulb.
- We WEREN'T told that Lincoln freed
the slaves
- as a military excuse to invade the
south.
- Or that Ben Frankin had slain
domestics
- buried in his backyard on 2
continents.
- Or that New Years day was moved
from
- March to January to coincide with
Rome's election day.
- Or that Christ couldn't have been
born in December.
- But we're learning!
-
- Technology:
- You think modern computers are
great? So do I,
- even though they're pretty
primitive
- with all these wires and gizmos.
- In our haste to capitalize,
- we tend to strap things together.
-
- After we've tallied the losses
from computer hazards,
- the airbags and seatbelts will
come.
- And once man configures a link
- from the computer's
- plusses and minuses
- to the ones in our mind,
- that "Acme Internal"
monitor
- might seem pretty
"user-friendly"..
-
- Nature:
- If a cockroach is capable of
"genetically storing"
- about 30 gigabytes of information
in his DNA,
- I think it's reasonable to give
nature a little credit too.
- Sure, cockroaches have been around
a lot longer than computers
- but did they start with external
monitor, scanner and speakers?
- Pretty crude effort to mimic
nature, isn't this?
-
- Not to discount the works of man
entirely ....
- we HAVE progressed from hunters
and gatherers
- to "hunt & peck"ers.
-
-
-
- How much glory does man
deserve?
- The tallest skyscraper in the
world won't outlast a mountain.
- A mine pit isn't nearly as
impressive as the Grand Canyon.
- Despite "common
knowledge", the most horrendous of
- man's nuclear contraptions still
cannot destroy the earth,
- only eliminate a handful of
current surface-inhabitants.
- I remember watching newsreels
about using atomic bombs
- to clear mountain passes for
highway construction!
- THEN they started reading their
geiger counters!
- Are humans as careless about
destroying life
- as we are about creating it ?
-
- If the world's most brilliant
human can't explain what life IS
- or what the other 90% of his brain
is for,
- how then can average people
- deem ourselves qualified
- to debate the origins of it?
-
- Man can't build an amoeba without
seed, much less an elephant.
- Does love not exist, since we
can't measure it?
- Love, faith, hunger and our
internal chemistry
- continue to steer our lives more
effectively
- than all the will-power seminars
on earth.
- In spite of our rudimentary
efforts to understand,
- quantify and dominate these
"natural" things,
- people still "go
berserk" and we
- allow our medulla-oblongata
- "lizard-brains" to
control a moment.
-
- So let's not just go thru life
rowing our boats backwards!
- Let's not allow
our primitive egos to prevent us
- from considering the possibility
- of a supreme intelligence,
- a superior being,
- a "creator".
-
- IS there a God or not?
- Let's get real here:
- If we found out for certain the
universe evolved from cosmic dust....
- neither of us would we pray to the
dust.
-
- Despite the temptation to just be
complacent
- and believe what's fashionable,
- and secure in the knowledge that
- we still have a very limited
ability
- to measure and control things,
- I think the odds in favor of
superior intelligence
- are pretty certain .....
- Yes, I think God exists......
- based on my own experiences,
- my faith in the intentions of my
tutors,
- a memory-ful of otherwise
unexplainable events,
- a firm belief that nature's work
is more sophisticated
- than pavement, concrete and
manmade trinkets,
- and an abiding awareness of my own
insignificance.
- Once I realized that man doesn't
RULE the world,
- I had to admit that MAYBE I am
here for another reason .....
-
-
- If survival is nature's
primary goal, when does "life" end?
- Can we understand all the
ways this old, dead stump
- STILL influences the rest
of the forest?
- Every blade of grass is
linked to its neighbors
- just as subtley as the
bond between you and me.
- Don't be surprised that I
think like you,
- we're part of each other!
- Like trees in the same
forest,
- we're bound by the same
rules.
- And nature is a very large
test tube!
-
- Is life itself a coincidence, a
miracle ....
- or part of a pattern?
- Why can't a seed sprout by itself?
- Why does peat dissolve granite?
- Why are beavers so industrious?
- If hot air ALWAYS rises, why
aren't the clouds afire?
- Is a three-legged frog
"deformed" or has he
"evolved"?
- Have you ever wondered what a
sparrow was thinking?
- How much different would the world
be if ice didn't float?
- Why does Kirlian photography
outline a "missing" limb?
- What draws passing electrons into
orbit?
- Does a tree defy gravity....
- or is it just seeking to improve
itself?
- Why do atoms behave like planets?
-
- Could the very planets themseves
be alive?
- The earth's "plates" are
constantly folding and blending,
- thus exposing all manner of
"incidental" contaminants
- to the "sanitizing"
forces of heat and pressure.
- Isn't this geological
"subduction" a fancy way of saying
- that our planet "heals"
itself?
- Why would a "dead"
rockpile bother to heal itself?
- Isn't all this
"evolution" an on-going event?
- Could evolution be PART of our
Creator's plan?
- Is it possible to evolve from a
living form into a spirit?
- If some huge "living"
celestial entity/mass/being
- were to "spread its
message" of survival, harmony and splendor
- to the whole universe by
completely changing its nature,
- would we call that event a
"big bang"?
-
- As we begin to solve the puzzles
of nature,
- we can't help but see the same
patterns recur ...
- Everything from cells to the earth
- can be viewed as self-adapting
systems,
- working together to obtain an
"eternal" existence!
- We're beginning to find the same
thing true for larger systems,
- such as a galaxy or the universe
as a whole.
-
- Could there be a plan? If so, can
you imagine
- the kind of spectacular
"mind"
- which could have designed all of
this?
- When I walk in the woods I see
- the wealth of God's miracles
- just as surely as an urbanite
- curses the bugs and
- tramps down the berries ...
- Should we seek our place on earth
- or just duck the whole issue?
-
- Is it wiser to avoid
falling
- or to dare someone to
shove you?
- ...........