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Sometime after the 6 days of creation, and after the 7th day when God said that his creation was "very good" a rebellion in heaven occurred.
Like man, angels were created perfect and with a free will. Among the angels in heaven, was one called Lucifer.
Lucifer was a being "of perfect beauty". He was covered in every precious stone and had pendants and jewels of gold (Ezekiel 28:13). This state of perfection did not last.
God tells us in Ezekiel 28:15 that Lucifer was perfect until "iniquity was found" in him.
When did Lucifer fall from Heaven? It was not before day 6 like those who believe in the "Gap Theory" claim. The Bible tells us that Lucifer was in Eden* (Ezekiel 28:13)which was created on day 6 and he was still without sin on that day (God called it very Good on Day 7).
*Ezekiel 28 speaks of the King of Tyrus whose body Satan also possessed. Verses such as Ezekiel 28:13 "Thou hast been in Eden the Garden of God" make it clear that it is Satan/Lucifer being referred to, as no earthly King was ever in Eden. The only ones ever in Eden were God, Adam, Eve and Lucifer.
So sometime after Day 7 Lucifer corrupted himself because of his pride and beauty. Ezekiel 28:17 says: Lucifer's "heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness"
Lucifer was foolish enough to think that he was equal (or greater than) God.
For you have said: "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High [God]." ( Isaiah 14:13)
So God cast him out of heaven. "I will cast thee to the ground" (Ez 28:17)
The prophesy of Isaiah is directed toward the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:4), but the chapter also speaks of Satan himself. It is clear from this passage that Satan possessed the King of Babylon just as he did the body of the serpent in Genesis 3.
"...therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee" (Ezekiel 28:18)
The fall of Lucifer should have been an example to Adam (and eventually to all men) to follow God's word. Lucifer was successful in causing 1/3 of the angels to rebel against God (Revelation 12:4, 9) and hopes to get even more humans to do the same.
Revelation 12:9 (NIV) "The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him."
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made."
Of the animals that lived in the field, the serpent was the most clever, and may have been more beautiful than their lowly appearance today.
"And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
It was at this time that Satan (the fallen angel Lucifer) possessed* the body of the serpent in order to tempt Eve.
*Satan and his angels have possessed many since then including the king of Tyrus Ezekiel 28:11-19.
Revelation 12:9 also refers to Satan as a serpent.
"that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him."
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2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."
4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"
Satan is calling God a liar. He does this today by trying to get people to compromise on scripture. This is especially true in Genesis. "Does God really mean this..."
5 "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Satan wanted Eve to believe that she would be happier doing what she wanted, rather than doing what God wanted.
|The historian Josephus adds that Satan told Eve that when they tasted of the tree of knowledge "they would lead a happy life; nay [not], a life not inferior to that of a god"|
This power was tempting to Eve, as it had been to Lucifer (now called Satan).
The book of Isaiah chapter 14 verse 13 tells us that Lucifer deceived himself with this same lie that he told Eve: "For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: (v14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High [God]."
In reality Satan will be "brought down to hell" (Isaiah 14:15) as will those who do not acknowledge Christ as the risen Savior.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Eve knew God had told her not to do something, but she thought she knew better than God what was best for her. She trusted her own judgment "when the woman saw..." We do the same thing today. But as you will see there are consequences of such decisions.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
There are many interesting things about this verse. One is that "the eyes of them both were opened", this does not imply that they were blind prior to this. (Remember that the previous verse tells us that Eve "saw that the tree was good for food") It alludes to the fact that Adam and Eve could now see something they could not see before.
Eyes is translated from the Hebrew word "ayin" and means "eye" but also "knowledge". "Paqach", translated "opened" means "to open, especially the senses"
Anti-Creationists claim that the human eye is imperfectly designed because the ‘wires’ (nerves) run between the photoreceptors and the light.
The notion that the eye is wired backward stems from a lack of knowledge in the area of eye function and anatomy.
(An eye for creation: An interview with eye-disease researcher Dr George Marshall , University of Glasgow, Scotland. Creation Ex Nihilo 18(4):19–21, 1996 and "Stumbling over the impossible" by Jonathan Sarfati Refutation of: Climbing Mt Improbable by Richard Dawkins Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal 12(1):29–34, 1998).
Sarfati adds: "If the photoreceptors were not in contact with the choroid, as per the ‘superior’ design of Dawkins et al., they could not be regenerated efficiently. Thus it would probably take months before we could drive if we were photographed with a flashbulb"
("Stumbling over the impossible" by Jonathan Sarfati Refutation of: Climbing Mt Improbable by Richard Dawkins Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal 12(1):29-34, 1998).
For more information read "Is Our 'Inverted' Retina Really 'Bad Design'? by Peter W. V. Gurney, Vol. 13, No. 1 Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal
In addition, there is evidence from the fossil record that humans could once see much better than they can today, as is evident from the large occipital torus in Neanderthals, and the micro carvings that they produced (see "Buried Alive" by Dr. Jack Cuozzo).
Verse 7 also states that "they sewed fig leaves together". The very first people were able to do complicated tasks like make clothing. You can not do this with the clumsy hands of an ape.
Clothing is not preserved in the fossil record, as it is made of material that decays rapidly. However we find tools designed especially for making clothing in fossil rock.
|A finely crafted needle was carved from a small piece of bone, and was found in embedded in matrix (rock) in places such as Enlene, France. (a picture of which can be seen in "From Lucy to Language" pg 99). This site is said to be 26,000 years old, but can be better interpreted in a 6-7 thousand year Biblical time frame.|
Because Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man both made and wore clothes, it is impossible to put these people in a time before Genesis. Both are true humans descended from Adam. Apes do not feel shamed to cover their bodies (most of which are covered by hair).
Religions tell people that they have to do something to save themselves. Many will try to reach up to Godhood - but Christianity is the only place where God reaches down to us to save us.
8 "And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden."
"God walking in the garden" is a reference to God's ability to appear in human form, as he did when Christ was born.
At this time in history sin did not separate God and man. God walked in the Garden and had direct fellowship with man. This will happen once again in heaven when God dwells with his people (Rev. 21:3).
9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
We know that God sees all sin even though we may try to hide it.
God didn't ask this because he didn't know where Adam was. God sees everything at once. He was asking Adam in a way that would give him the chance to come forward and admit his sins (He also did this when Cain killed Abel). He gives him the opportunity again in verse 11.
You may find an empty cookie jar, and your child with a sticky face, but still ask him if he ate the cookies (even though you already know he did) just to give him a chance to come forward.
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
The book of Jeremiah 23:24 (English-NIV) says:
"Can anyone hide in secret places so that I cannot see him?" declares the LORD. "Do not I fill heaven and earth?" declares the LORD."
From this we know you can not hide from God, and he does in fact see everything. God's knowledge, and senses are not limited as ours are.
(add quote from "Puzzle of Ancient Man")
11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
God knew Adam had done this, but asks to get Adam to admit what he had done. Christ told us to confess our sins to him.
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
Adam tries to place the blame on God, saying "It was the woman that YOU gave me that caused me to do this". But we know that Adam was responsible for his own actions. He also took the fruit that Eve gave him and ate it, fully aware that God had told him not to.
We do the same thing today, try to escape responsibility for our sins.
|The fruit is often shown in paintings as being an apple, but no where in the bible does it say that this is what it was. It is likely to have been fruit unique to that kind of tree.|
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
Eve could have taken responsibility for her actions, and asked for forgiveness but instead she tries to pass the blame on the serpent.
Adam and Eve could have resisted temptation. God in the flesh (Jesus) was tempted in every way that we are (and more) but he always resisted Satan.
1 Corinthians 10:13 NIV
1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Question: "If animals didn't evolve, then why do snakes have remnants of arms and legs in the form of little stubs?"
Hylonemous is a fossil snake with legs.
If these "stubs" in today’s snakes are actually the remainder of what once were legs - does that mean evolution is the only way to explain the data?
It seems to me that this is a loss of genetic information that makes the animal worse off than it was before. In regards to the snake "leg" remnants God says that the serpent which apparently had legs in the Garden of Eden was now cursed and part of his punishment is that he now has to crawl on his belly. This could explain the loss of legs in snakes. This is not evolution. This is part of the curse.
In "Antiquities of the Jews" Josephus again gives us some insight in his words: God "had deprived him of the use of his feet, he made him to go rolling all along, and dragging himself upon the ground."
Snakes did in fact have legs and feet at one time. They lost the ability to walk not because of millions of years of evolution, but because of the curse. Snakes may have changed instantly when God cursed them or they may have lost this ability over a period of time (as with the loss of bipedalism in some of the apes). Let me stress again however that some animals have always been quadrupeds (walked on all fours). The curse effected different creatures in differing amounts and at different rates.
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
enmity: the extreme ill will or hatred that exists between enemies
Satan hoped that Adam and Eve would align themselves with him in his rebellion against God. It is clear from this verse that instead man and Satan became enemies.
Only men have "seed" by which a child is conceived. Verse 15 indicates that in the future a woman would be born from the seed of a woman. The virgin birth of Christ is thus prophesized here, long before it was fulfilled in the New Testament. The virgin birth was not borrowed from other religions, or from mythology as some critics claim.
Since all humans are descended from Adam and Eve (the mother of all living) the fallen sin nature would also be inherited. The virgin birth becomes a necessity if a sinless son of God is to be born. For only a sinless Creator can be our Savior. It is for this reason that Satan has tried to kill every man that he thought might be the savior (Abel for instance, another is ordering the death of all children under 3 years of age in the New Testament) but it is only Christ that was born of a virgin.
Some have claimed that the word "virgin" meant only "a young girl". However the word in the original language means one who has no sexual experience.
In this verse "it shall bruise thy head" is symbolic of Satan trying to kill Christ, but instead only "bruising" him, by killing him. For it was Christ who was ultimately triumphant by coming back from the dead.
The words "and thou shalt bruise his heel" seems to indicate mans attempt at killing the dragons (dinosaurs) and other vicious reptiles that reminded them of the serpent Satan possessed.
|(image coming soon)||In his book ("Buried Alive") Dr. Cuozzo points out a carving on a rod of a human figure with a serpent striking at his heal (pg 131 "Buried Alive - the Startling truth about Neanderthal man" by Dr. Jack Cuozzo). The carving in question comes from La Madeleine downriver from Les Eyzies (home of Cro-Magnon man a post flood descendant of Adam). The carving can be seen on pg 209 of Alexander Marshack's book "The Roots of Civilization".|
Marshack points out 2 lines near its neck but does not give a reason for their appearance. Could this be pointing to their weak spot? We know from scripture that Christ, the only seed of a woman (Mary) will crush the head of Satan.
The lines near the snakes body and tail may be emphasizing its new means of locomotion (due to its loss of legs and feet).
Another interesting feature of the human figure is the short tibia (lower leg). This is a feature found in Neanderthal skeletons and likely the norm among Adam and his descendants.
Josephus says that God "inserted poison under his tongue"
The snakes in the garden of Eden were not poisonous until after Adam and Eve sinned. Neither did lions have carnivorous teeth, spiders spin webs to catch prey etc.
16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
Child birth was not meant to be painful. God created Eve with a large birth canal that would allow a baby to pass through without pain (on the part of the mother or child).
Part of the curse on mankind is that the human body is degenerating. This process can be seen in the entire body, but in this section we will focus on the human pelvis.
We actually have evidence from the fossil record that the human birth canal has reduced in size since God created us. If evolution were true, nature would have never "selected" against such a thing, as it is detrimental to have a small birth canal, not beneficial. Such a change makes sense only from a Biblical perspective (Creation and the Curse).
When we examine the pelvis of the Neanderthal from Kebara, Israel we see that it has broader illiac blades, and superior pubic rami that are longer and thinner than ours are today. Though Kebara 2 is a male specimen, these features would also apply to the women (in fact a female pelvis would be even larger) and would have given Neanderthal women a more forward placed birth canal. (pg 15 "The Last Neanderthal" by Ian Tattersall)
This reduction in size took place over many centuries, and applied to all women, not just Eve specifically.
Finding fossil remains of a larger human pelvis back in time help confirm the authority of scripture. The Bible was written before such remains were found. (For more info read pg 267 "Buried Alive" by Dr. Jack Cuozzo).
The works of Josephus tell us: "He also made Eve liable to the inconveniency of breeding, and the sharp pains of bringing forth children; and this because she persuaded Adam with the same arguments wherewith the serpent had persuaded her, and had thereby brought him into a calamitous condition."
Neanderthals are true humans who lived to the great ages described in the bible. Eve was designed to be the mother of all living (humans). We are descended from her, not from an ape-like creature.
We can see the great design God placed in the pelvis of Eve when we look at the Neanderthal pelvis. Keep in mind, the large Neanderthal fossil pelv's we find would be reduced in size compared to their original size in Eden.
|We have many well preserved pelvis' of Neanderthals. One of which is the Kebara pelvis.||
(Picture from pg. 15 of "The Last Neanderthal" by Ian Tattersall)
The Pelvis of the Neanderthals were wider in the front than our own (pg 267 "Buried Alive" by Jack Cuozzo).
The human remains from Sima de los Huesos revealed the largest pelvis ever found in the fossil record. The allegedly* 60,000 yr old "Elvis the pelvis" had a maximum width which exceeds that "of any previously known hominid pelvis." (Discovering Archaeology, Scientific American, December 2000). *there is evidence that these dates have been manipulated.
The birth canal of the women at this site would be even larger.
Dr. Cuozzo suggests that the Neanderthals may have had a longer period of gestation than we do today (we also don't live as long).
It seems plausible that the decreased size of our pelvis compared to that of the Neanderthal shape (Eve) is a result of the curse God placed on this earth when Adam sinned.
"Unto the woman he said: 'I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception"
"Smaller pelvises would mean more pain in childbirth"
pg 267 "Buried Alive" by Jack Cuozzo
There is no way the authors of the Bible could know that the Neanderthals had a larger pelvis than us, unless they were themselves the Neanderthals. The fact that God's word describes such things is more evidence that the Bible is the inspired Word of the living God.
There is no evolutionary advantage to having a smaller pelvis. It is an evolutionary disadvantage. Many mothers and children die during childbirth.
There is not a mother in the world that would not rather have a birth canal the size of the Neanderthals.
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
The ground which once gave freely of its fruits will now only give through hard labor. Some fruits will no longer be produced at all.
"it should bring forth some of its fruits, and refuse to bring forth others." (Josephus, "Antiquities of the Jews").
Some of these fruits that are no longer produced may have added to our longevity and the superior health of the Patriarchs.
When God says "cursed is the ground for thy sake" he is saying that introduction of death into the world will be the means of salvation. It is for man's good that death was introduced so that Christ could take death upon his own body and pay the penalty for us.
The word "ground" is actually the same word used for "earth". So it was the entire earth that was cursed, and everything in it: humans, animals, plants.
John 16:21 NIV "A woman giving birth to a child has pain because her time has come; but when her baby is born she forgets the anguish because of her joy that a child is born into the world."
John 16:21 KJV "A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world."
When the Bible says: "cursed is the ground for thy sake" it is likely that a burst of radioactivity was released from the rocks. This would effect the rate of radioactive decay, thus throwing off dating methods (carbon dating etc). See my section on carbon dating for more info.
Please note that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics* did not begin at this time.
* The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics says that the amount of entropy or disorder in the universe increases with the passage of time.
While the Curse did in fact cause the genetic deterioration of plants, animals and humans this is not part of the 2nd law. This law would been in place from the beginning in order to digest food, allow heat transfer etc.
"Death and suffering of nephesh animals before sin are contrary to the Biblical framework above, as are suffering (or ‘groaning in travail’ (Rom. 8:20–22). It is more likely that God withdrew some of His sustaining power (Col. 1:15–17) at the Fall so that the decay effect of the Second Law was no longer countered."
(quote from "Moving forward Arguments we think creationists shouldn’t use" by Jonathan Sarfati First published in: Creation 24(2):20–24 March–May 2002)
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
These were not part of God's "good" creation. Thorns and thistles, like carnivorous activity are a result of the curse. Plants like Venus fly traps might be good examples of degeneration (not evolution) that will need to be studied further. We can not place plants with these types of structures in a time before the sin of Man. What we see today is the fallen (cursed, degenerated) state of these plants.
Please contact the author if you have done research in this field.
It is possible that in plants and animals structures that were once beneficial became malevolent through mutations (part of the curse).
It is also important to note that this part of the curse was represented in the death of Christ. Those who crucified him also tried to humiliate him by placing a crown of thorns on his head (Matt. 27:29; Mark 15:17; John 19:2,5). So Christ wore on his head the very thorns that represented part of the curse.
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Man was created with the ability to live forever. Had Adam and Eve not sinned this would still be the case.
The death Adam died at this point was a spiritual death. His spirit became separated from direct fellowship with God. When spiritual death occurred, it started the long process of physical death. With mans body slowly deteriorating. The end result of which is physical death.
The fact that it took Adam 930 + years to die physically (see Genesis 5:3-4) is a testament of God’s Great Creation. Such longevity and physical strength is unobtainable by us today.
Some people wonder at this point, if the world would become overcrowded if men lived forever. God foresaw the fall (spiritual and physical death) of man. And having this foreknowledge he created a world large enough to provide for all of humanity (though we do not use our current resources wisely).
20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
This verse tells us again that all human come from one man and one woman, Adam and Eve. All of the so called races originated at the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11). God loves all people equally. We should do the same.
All humans are descended from Adam and Eve. There is no place in an evolutionary framework where you can get a woman from a mans body. No apes could ever do this.
21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
This was the first animal death in history. Dinosaurs and other animals that are now extinct, died out after this (most of them after the flood in Genesis 6-9).
In this verse God killed an animal as a temporary covering for sin. Later Christ would completely pay for sin, not just cover it. Jesus Christ, the lamb of God was the ultimate sacrifice. His payment was not a temporary covering, it was a full redemption (if we choose to accept it).
The seriousness of this animal death is lost to those who think animals lived and died for millions of years before Adam was Created.
Also verse 21 is the first time clothes had been made from animal skins. We know that Cro-Magnon made and wore furs, this is also true of the Neanderthals (read the comments on the jewelry found with La Chapelle aux Saints in "Buried Alive" by Dr. Jack Cuozzo).
From this verse, and many others like it we can conclude that Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man were true humans, (not ape-men) and that they were descendants of Adam and Eve.
Clothes are also worn in heaven Rev. 1:3, Rev. 19:14
The coats of skin will be replaced in Heaven with fine white linens, clean and undefiled (Rev. 19:14).
Both man and animal has a spirit, and according to Ecclesiastes 3:19 the bodies of both return to the dust when they die.
Ecclesiastes 3:19 KJV
Ecc. 3 verse 21 seems to indicate that the spirit of man goes "upward" into paradise while the spirit of an animal remains in the earth. I do not know if the spirits of animals cease to exist when they die. Because both man and animals have spirits, but only humans have souls.
This verse may be speaking of the spirit of God which was breathed directly into man (Genesis 2:7), and also the soul which animals do not have. Animals may be judged for their sin the way the serpent was in Genesis 3, but they do not appear to be condemned to hell for their actions.
We have all lost pets which we love dearly. God too loves animals. He created them for his, and our enjoyment.
It does appear that there are animals in heaven.
Animals have been used for special purposes in scripture. Elijah was taken up to heaven in a chariot that was pulled by horses (2 Kings 2:11).
The book of Revelation also speaks of horses in heaven(Revelation 6:2-8; 19:11, also 2 Kings 6:17, in regards to Elisha).
Horses are mentioned specifically because they play a role in the judgment of the earth.
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
God is not saying here that there is more than one God. He is saying that He exists in a trinity. Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
We are also a trinity: Spirit, soul, body.
God did not want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of life, because then they would not die. If they did not die, they could not be reunited with God when Christ rose from the dead.
There is a tree of life in paradise (Revelation 2:7, Rev 22:1)
23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
This again reconfirms the fact that God made man directly from the ground, not from an apelike ancestor.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
A Cherubim is an angel with wings (Exodus 25:18-20 etc) and two faces: "the face of a man" and "the face of a lion"(Ezekiel 41:18-20).
Lucifer was of this type of angel. Scripture calls him the anointed cherub
"Where are the guardians with flaming swords, and do you think man has discovered it or will discover it?"
From Norman R. 5/12/02
These trees do not exist on the earth today. The garden of Eden, along with the rest of the world was destroyed at the time of the flood (Genesis 6-9). These trees may exist in Heaven however.
1 Corinthians 15 (NIV) 21 For since death came through a man [Adam], the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man [Jesus].
Nothing died before Adam sinned.
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