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Topic: Trivia(Archive1)
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-22-2002 12:26 PM
lets get the easy ones out of the way...
beer
ale
wine
mead
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tea
coffee
milk
So we have one of each to go! I'm off for my exam.
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The Laurenendôrian
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posted 03-22-2002 02:33 PM
There is a reference to 'Porter' in a list of drinks - I don't know what this is, though, so it could fall into either category so far as I am concerned.
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Marcho Blackwood, MSS
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posted 03-22-2002 02:54 PM
Ah, TL, not to have enjoyed the delights of a nice rich Porter! It is a dark, chocolaty brew, a variety of the fermentation processes. Beer, Ale, and Porter are both similar and different. All are arrived at through the fermentation of grains. Beer has the addition of hops and Porter has a dark roasted malt that adds a new set of flavors. And a good stout is wonderful, but alas, the hobbits don't seem to have that!
And TL, you had the last one for this question on the other thread!
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The Laurenendôrian
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posted 03-22-2002 03:00 PM
Oops.
I was going to post it, but I forgot.
I take it that you are referring to water.
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My thanks for the description of porter.
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Marcho Blackwood, MSS
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posted 03-22-2002 03:26 PM
Okay TL! Your go!
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-22-2002 04:51 PM
Now, now Mr. Blackwood a connoisseur's insight into types of ales can be very misguiding to the young mind ![[]](wink.gif)
I was cosidering water but was hardly in a mood to call it a beverage ![[]](icon26.gif) I needed caffiene!
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Liberation! No more exams to take! ![[]](icon30.gif)
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-25-2002 05:29 AM
To avoid one more question from me I suggest someone posts a question to keep this thread moving. Laur seems to be pressed for time so we'll have to cover for him.
All types of questions are welcome: ![[]](icon54.gif) ![[]](icon32.gif) ![[]](icon35.gif) ![[]](icon17.gif) ![[]](icon22.gif) ![[]](icon42.gif)
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Musnud
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posted 03-25-2002 04:44 PM
Okay, I've got one.
List the evil creatures mentioned in The Hobbit.
Some of these may be up for debate, and there may be some that I've missed. But I have 8 by my count. This does not include creatures that aren't named specifically (such as the eyes in Mirkwood).
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-25-2002 04:51 PM
Evil
1. Spiders
2. Wolves (Wargs)
3. Crows
4. Goblins
5. Giants (good and bad)
6. Trolls
7. Dragons, Smaug (I forgot this the first time!)
8. Gollum
![[]](icon40.gif) I like this question, I like evil. bwahahaha
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-25-2002 07:09 PM
9. Necromancer
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Musnud
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posted 03-26-2002 08:02 AM
You have 7 of the 8. I didn't count the Necromancer because technically he isn't really a "creature." I also didn't count giants. (Does it mention somewhere that some of them were evil? I couldn't find any reference to that.)
The 8th? Anyone ![[]](icon48.gif)
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Marcho Blackwood, MSS
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posted 03-26-2002 08:55 AM
quote:
On some of them were old castles with an evil look, as if they had been built by wicked people.
So there are 'wicked people' mentioned.
When Thorin was missing the dwarves and hobbit ->
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They wondered what evil fate had befallen him, magic or dark monsters; and shuddered as they lay lost in the forest.
'Dark monsters' sound pretty evil to me.
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-26-2002 12:07 PM
The some giants being bad can be inferred from this quote:
quote:
"I must see if I can't find a more or less decent giant to block it up again," said Gandalf
And there was another line of thought I've had but that is just a complicated conjecture, so yes we really don't have "proof" that they were "evil".
I like Marcho's quote of 'wicked people'. It's the only example of actual people being evil.
How about the Sackville Bagginses? ![[]](smile.gif) Not too evil huh?
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Musnud
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posted 03-26-2002 12:07 PM
Those are good ones, Marcho. But like I mentioned before, I wouldn't consider 'people' (even really wicked ones) to be 'creatures.'
And I think your second one falls under this comment.
quote:
This does not include creatures that aren't named specifically (such as the eyes in Mirkwood)
So I'm still looking for an eighth. There's a specific reference that refers to it.
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-26-2002 12:11 PM
The Master of lake-town???
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Musnud
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posted 03-26-2002 12:13 PM
No, the S-B's aren't on my list, but good try there.
Once again, there's a distinction between creatures and human-type characters. I suppose you could say that Gollum isn't a creature either since he was originally a hobbit. But I consider what he has become creature-like enough to count as one.
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-26-2002 12:15 PM
oh ok, I thought you meant people too. Dangit I was actually interested in evil people. Aren't they fun?
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-26-2002 12:34 PM
Bats!
There is a mention of Vampires and also the fact they fly along with the wolves to the battle of the five armies.
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-26-2002 12:40 PM
I'm going to rise in arms against those folk that say the Hobbit is a happy nice children's book. Why it's got more evil than the Silm. and LOTR put together:
Hahaha I found a reference for the giants and a new creature too! Yipee!
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Poor Bilbo sat in the dark thinking of all the horrible names of all the giants and ogres he had ever heard told of in tales
So Musnud your list must have at least 10 entries now! Your 8 + giants + vampires/ogres (whichever you left out)
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The Laurenendôrian
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posted 03-26-2002 02:51 PM
Some eagles, I believe - there is a bit when it introduces the ones the dwarves meet which says this. Also, there is a reference to evil bears.
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Sorry I didn't get any of those questions I was suposed to set down; I was away for a couple of days.
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-26-2002 03:48 PM
Here's possibly what Laur talks of:
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: "Not eaten up by Wargs or goblins or wicked bears yet I see"; and he poked Mr. Baggins'
But that was possibly because Bilbo thought they were wicked.
But the Eagles definitely are mentioned!
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Eagles are not kindly birds. Some are cowardly and cruel. But the ancient race of the northern mountains were the greatest of all birds; they were proud and strong and noble-hearted.
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Musnud
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posted 03-26-2002 04:12 PM
Laur got the last one I was looking for, the reference to the cruel Eagles.
Lug got most of them (plus some), so I'd say it's probably his go, but I'll let you two duke it out if you want to.
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Ain't I evil?
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-26-2002 04:58 PM
Trolls, Goblins, Wargs, Spiders, Cruel Eagles, Crows, Gollum, Smaug (dragons)
+ Giants, Ogres, Vampires
I'm scared ![[]](icon31.gif)
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Since I was able to provide not one or two but three additions to this horrible list of Moosenuhd's I shall accept the daunting task to formulate the next question. An easy yet challenging question can be expected soon.
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Lugbúrz
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posted 03-26-2002 05:32 PM
Where have all the flowers gone? ![[]](icon46.gif)
Fifteen adventurers (thirteen dwarves, Gandalf and our dear hobbit) set out to the Lonely Mountain from the Green Dragon Inn (Gandalf joined them a little later). Before Bilbo returned to his warm bath and late breakfast, there were fifteen situations in which one of the company found himself completely alone, either because he was on a scouting expedition or simply because all the others had vanished.
Bonus:Now one more of these situations may not fully fit in but is amply qualified, by a subsequent statement, to be acceptable as the sixteenth such incident.
Please list them all.
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Mandin
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posted 03-26-2002 07:12 PM
Gandalf rode off to speak with elves of Rivendell.....1
Bilbo went forward to check out the Trolls.......2
Each of the thirteen dwarves went alone and in succession to check out the Trolls........3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14, and 15.
Bilbo was separated in the dark tunnels of the Goblin mountain.......bonus 16.
There are several more I believe, but I've done the required 16.
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